Low light performance between Xperia Z3 and G4. Both were in Auto mode, flash Off. I was really surprised by how poor G4 did. I don't know if I did anything wrong, but for me the G4 was a little worse than Z3 in when it comes to low light shots...
*Update: Actually G4's are not that bad when viewed by computer I don't know... you guys decide.
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The Z3 photos seem to have more noise to me.
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G4 has brighter colors, I can see more detail in the foilage and lawn, and the supports in your neighbor's windows. I can make out more detail in the red city lights in the distance, and the stop sign is a lot more legible. Overall there's more detail and the lighting is closer to ambient.
The other sets show similar comparisons. The Z3 does have a lot more noise and slightly darker colors. Maybe you were unhappy with the way they show up on the G4's screen?
G4 by a country mile. Not sure what you're expecting or if you're trained to see the differences; the G4 is superior in every comparison you posted.
Check what ISO the z3 bumped to
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You're comparing auto and auto between two phones – they'll use different algorithms. And because auto assesses the entire image, even the same device pointed at the same scene will take 2 different auto photos because the amount of light and dark in the shot changes as you recompose. It appears from your comparison photos that the G4's auto algorithm prefers a shorter exposure time (ie: darker photos), which reduces the risk of camera shake.
For a better ("better", not "perfect") comparison, set both cameras to manual mode, and select the same shutter speed, ISO, WB, etc. The only factor you can't set is aperture, so the one with the bigger aperture (that is, smaller f number) will be brighter.
G4 photos seems better to me and Z3 with yellowish noisy look! how can you say Z3 pictures are better than G4's?
G4 looks better
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G4 looks better, but in low light it's better to use manual mode, it beats every phones.
G4 looks much better in those photos.
For true low light situations...this is why you have manual mode...
Those G4 shots look amazing to me. Not sure what you are looking at. The Z3s all have this ugly yellowish tint to them.
lolwut is this serious? The G4 photos are much more detailed.
I'll lend my two cents, but will mostly echo the thoughts and feelings of many posters.
@soyelmango is on the money here. NEVER compare 2 smartphone cameras on auto mode. I would think you should be using manual mode on both cameras and comparing the results acknowledging the different apetures (f/1.8 on G4 = lighter results than most other flagship cameras, higher the f stop = dark results when all other settings are equal). I too notice a yellow-tinge on the Z4 photos, especially in image 1...I too also can see the foilage of the shrubs/grass a lot more clearly in the G4 photo. Wouldn't you agree? I notice no other OP posts since, well, the OP. Where is he/she?
Everyone has their own own personal preferences when it comes to photography. But the G4 is the better result in almost every single one of those examples IMO too.
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The G4 wins in all photos. Also, you're standing in two completely different places when you took the "comparison" shots. Even on the same phone if you move to a different place, it will change its settings in auto mode! Camera 101.
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Low light performance between Xperia Z3 and G4. Both were in Auto mode, flash Off. I was really surprised by how poor G4 did. I don't know if I did anything wrong, but for me the G4 was a little worse than Z3 in when it comes to low light shots...
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Yeah, you did a few things wrong. Night shots require light, that means time. It means a steady hand and a longer exposure. Or better still, a tripod. See then we would get to see the best each could do instead of being limited to auto (!). Auto comparisons are useless.
The Z3 has night modes which you did not use, which will lower ISO and give a cleaner shot, all your Z3 shots are ISO 1600 & 3200 that is why they look soft even at the reduced 2MP as a result of the hosting site you chose. Instead they ought to be ISO 400 - 800 (max). Shutter times, three with 1/16, you need to get them with 1/4 or slower. Then the Z3 shots will be sharper. No competent Z owner will resort to superior auto for night shots. Either manual which means you reduce ISO or scene modes. No shutter control on the Z's unfortunately but one can always hope it gets there eventually.
The G4 shots are all auto 'night shot', same thing applies, longer exposures and you'd get cleaner shots. Think 1/4 or 1/2.
Do bear in mind that the xperias top out at 0.8s and i expect the Z3 to do a decent job up to there but the G4 can go up to 30 seconds. No longer a fair contest at that point. Noise on the G4 is acceptable to ISO 800. The Z's top out at 400. Less apparent at reduced resolutions but go to the pixel level and its quite apparent.
if you want to beat the G4 with the Z3, switch to video and go for a walk down a flight of stairs. The difference will be quite apparent. Best video stabilisation without OIS on the market.
Is this a troll thread? Because in every single instance the G4 pictures look obviously better overall.
Ummmm, In every one of your examples the G4 has taken the better picture.....
I have to agree. G4 pictures are so much better with better and sharper details.
G4 is way better. For example, if you zoom in on the license plate in the pictures you can read the letters on the G4 and not the Z3
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Samsung Galaxy S3 Vs Nikon D5000 DSLR
Why?
I have a week off this week and while my fiancee is working, I thought I wpould charge my camera battery and have a practice. I am a really amateur photographer. By that I mean I own a nice DSLR (Upper Entry-level) and a couple of lenses but I've never really taken much time to get used to it. Today was a great oppurtunity.
Whilst I started taking snaps, i thought "Wouldn't it be cool if..." and here we are.
Disclaimer - Scientific conditions.
Mode:
Whilst I am only an amateur, I am familiar with my camera and its modes. Although I usually shoot in manual mode, adjusting the aperture and shutter speed as I see fit, for a reasonable degree of accuracy, I decided to use Auto mode. This is also what I used on the SGS 3.
Where as I tried to maintain Automode, I did slip into landscape mode a couple of times on the DSLR. Unfortunately I do not recollect which images were taken in each mode. It was mostly Auto though.
Zoom:
I stuck to my 18-55mm lens on the Nikon and used digital zoom on the SGS3. Although these can never be compared, as this is more a "look what the SGS3 can do" thing, I didn't think that should matter.
MegaPixels:
I set both top their top resolution. The DSLR is 12MP so obviously the detail is better when shown on a huge billboard. On a screen which is smaller than that, it shouldn't be noticable. remember, a HD display (1920x1080) is less than 2.1MP
Galaxy Resolution - 3264×2448 pixels
D5000 Resolution - 4310×2868 pixels
Image format:
The SGS3 takes images in .JPG format by standard. The DSLR took them in .NEF (Nikon RAW) and was converted afterwards. Converting RAW to .JPG on a computer (I used UFraw command line tool on Linux) gives a little bit better quality than letting the camera save as .JPG directly
Conclusions
Obviously this test was just for fun and was never intended to show that the SGS3 would be better than an upper entry level DSLR which even now, 3 years after release, can cost upwards of £500 GBP with a basic 18-55MM lens. Well guess what?! It's not better than the DSLR but hey, we never expected it to be.
What you can tell from the images is that where some of the DSLR images were a bit dark in auto mode, the SGS3 had some nice and bright shots. You can clearly see the difference in quality on some shots, but in others, not so much. I was very surprised at how well the SGS3 took pictures and how nice some of them did look, even compared to the superior DSLR, some of the pcitures the SGS3 took looked nicer, if not better.
Slightly related, but the experience of previewing the image taken was MUCH more enjoyable on the SGS3 with its bright and vibrant screen. You can instantly tell if the image will come out blurry or not, which with the DSLR was really tricky. You cna onyl really check if the photo is framed as you expected.
All in all, the SGS3 is a fantastic little camera. It may not be able to keep up with the big boys but it was never intended to. I would never be disappointed whipping it out of my pocket to capture an "of the moment" photograph. I am very impressed.
Further diclaimer
As mentioned, I am not a photographer. I am sure there are others out there who can do much better than I did with both devices. Remember this is just for fun.
I haven't scientifically analysed the outputs of both devices and used any software or anythign like that. If anyone is into that, please feel free to post results here. I would definitely be interested. All I have done, is used my eyes.
The Images
Each photo tells you if its SGS3 or Nikon from the properties but essentially, the first image is always the SGS3, the second is always the D5000
https://picasaweb.google.com/101616642112510848507/SamsungGalaxyS3VsNikonD5000DSLR
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Have you try another phone like nexus 4 or htc one x?
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Was this a joke post? lol.
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?? I think its a good post showing off the gs3 camera well done op
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Was this a joke post? lol.
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You didn't have to quote the entire first post! Geez!!!!
I think it's good. I'd love to see comparison results!
I think it's a Inovative idea to Compare s3 and slr but really a daft comparison
The whole point of an slr is control, and whether Full frame or cropped and the list goes on. Quality of sensor.
As much as the s3 has a reasonable lens it is no comparison to a good slr or even a simple slr.
I've been am-tog for over 25yrs from good old 110 days, 35mm film, med format and digital.
S3 auto exp
Canon 50D 10mm-22mm lens and 580ex flash.... Full manual
Taken in almost complete darkness with strobe and coloured lighting.
There's absolutely no way a camera phone could produce this.
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It is a daft comparison. The real aim was to show by removing the element of control, given that the lens and sensor are not of the same quality, the s3 really isn't that bad at all.
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It is a daft comparison. The real aim was to show by removing the element of control, given that the lens and sensor are not of the same quality, the s3 really isn't that bad at all.
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In the street almost all photo good - camera it is or Nokia 1100
Try make photo INside, at home - and you WILL see REALLLL difference
Today I tested canera performance on my Z3 and my brother's Moto G (2014). The result scared me a little. I hope it's just me who thought the moto G ones were more vivid... what do u guys think?
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Z3 captures the colors as they are in real life. Some would say that's good, but I'd rather get more vivid images instead ?
That's why you edit pictures afterwise.
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That's why you edit pictures afterwise.
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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?
Well what did the actual scene look like????
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Well what did the actual scene look like????
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It looked more like the z3's pics. The Moto saturation is a little high.
Yes, sadly.
Try the Camera FV-5 apk. Not that any particular app makes the pictures look better but it gives you a DSLR complete control feel to it. Also the Aviary apk (free) has some nice simple touch ups for pictures.
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Whats wrong with the pics?
The Moto pictures look as said saturated blurred and low in quality.
The camera of the Z3 is the best one I ever had. Even in low light enviroment it makes awesome pics.
Compare some pics in the evening when u are watching tv with lights out and be happy to have a phone with such an awesome cam.
The Cam and the Display are the 2 things that keeps me away from installing CM.
If u want more colors play a bit around with the special effects f.e. hdr.
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So, I wasn't there but this is what I interpret the pictures as.
The Moto G pics aren't really over-saturated, they just lack dynamic range (difference between dark vs light areas). They essentially tuned the sensor so that if this sort of thing happens, it chooses the brighter side of the scene. The leaves and darker areas can't be recorded as dark as they actually were, so it chooses to make the overall picture just brighter. Sony does a much better job of capturing the light areas such as the concrete and also the darker shades and leaves. The other difference is white balance, the Sony chose something a little cooler, and the Moto warmer. Without being there, tough to say which is more accurate but from the pics I'd say the Sony got it right.
Easy fix, force the Sony to overexpose or use something like pixlr to boost exposure.
Second picture is much of the same, the thing that jumps out is the red colors. In the moto it looks orange, in the Z it looks much more red. Again, if I had to guess the Z got it right.
Now, this is all great with plants, rocks, and garden hoses, but what happens when you take a picture of people? Those Moto pics are going to look off, like people's faces look like cake and lack the proper color it needs.
Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera
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Z3 is easily better if you know how to use a camera
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Thats kind of the while point of "point and shoot". I should be fiddling with settings when im trying to capture that moment. Superior auto setting is an absolute garbage
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Xposed module changes superior auto to 20.7 mp makes a big difference
Seriously what is wrong with you guys.
Have you ever used an high quality cam?
In every shop there are phones where you can test them.
There are more tests in the net as you could ever read in your lifetime.
So if you don't like it don't buy it.
Should sound familiar as an iPhone user xD
Have just done a few shots but I'm sure you can save your favorite settings.
If this is too mich work to do I would suggest to sell your Z3 and buy an Moto or similar and stop annoying us.
I personally think the z3 camera is one of the best out there not hard to use manual mode
Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.
I use 8MP on manual it does well, it's just "Superior Auto" that sucks.
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So a high-end $600 phone needs pictures edited to make it equal to a low budget phone?
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Sorry. I should've quoted the person who said that that he prefeerd the more vibrant colors over the more accurate. I meant that if you want it more vibrant you should edit it so and let the original photo be correct.
I think it isa good also ti add that Feature if the client wants a vibrant they should add it.
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Did you try using HDR?
Here they did a test with most new phones including the Z5! Shame i cant link the photo's directly so you have to go to the link it self http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Xperia-Z5-vs-iPhone-6-Plus-vs-S6-vs-Z3-vs-G4-camera-samples-comparison_id73408
The Z5 takes pretty awesome shots and its way better then the z3 camera. The colors look so much more correct and in some phones it beats the sgs6.
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http://support.sonymobile.com/us/contactUs/phone/?region=en_US and ask if they can add RAW support
I like iphone 6 plus more.
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I like iphone 6 plus more.
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the red on the iphone looks washed out or better said, the amount of light on the car is captured more on it. the z5 captures the real color from my perspective
In my opinion Z5 is better than Iphone 6+ and GS6, colors of the 2 is slightly saturated.
Regardless of color accuracy, the resolution increase still does not helps getting sharper images. There is too much noise reduction applied, especially compared to iPhone 6. Apple here does a decent job although I'd rather have much more noise and no NR applied in camera. Worst offender is LG, which applies an insane post-NR sharpening.
I think we should wait for production samples and hopefully some 3rd party app that can leverage better on this new sensor. Otherwise there is no real advantage against Samsung or Apple.
As for color accuracy, it really comes down to the app and how much processing is done. On my screen (which is calibrated, but it's not best quality panel) and to my eye Z5 has decent overall color rendition, but I prefer the G4 in the first picture (less punch but the overall colors are more accurate) and the iPhone in the third.
In the end, we are not yet at compact camera level - maybe next iteration (z6 or z7 or whatever they will call it). I'd really love to have an RX100 performance squeezed into a phone
Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Found a site with more samples pics from the Z5 vs note 5. http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4953454/1/rv/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review/ Its a close call but Z5 wins when its shoots a photo in the dark tho.
All photo's on the left side are made by Z5 and right side is the note 5
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Am I the only one seeing that low light photos look good on Note 5. Specially the example you gave, Note 5 has more details compared to Z5. Yea we all know that Samsung dose produce more warmer pics which makes the photo looks yellowish, but if you take a closer look the noise reduction is so aggressive in Z5.
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P.S: Ah no wonder you seem to mix up the two photos. Note 5 indeed do look better here.
Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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Sony for some reason still cannot make a good camera. Note 5 does look much better in almost every situation.
Also look at the sky in that one pictre. Z5 completely burnt while Note 5 shows some nice detail
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Think its time you get some glasses bro. The first one and clearly the best low light photo is made with the Z5 not the note. Even if you zoom in on the billboard etc you see that the note blurs and has to much overexposed. But both are good camera's tho/.
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http://www.uberlin.co.uk/berlin-moments-september-7th-september-15th/
These pictures looks awesome. and yea it got lotta details too. We need further tests to see how it's done. Since they can always get it right with software.
New camera module absolutely promising. Specially colour accuracy.
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WOW those pictures look indeed pretty awesome!!! But they are taken by a pro tho with a tripod.
I am a Sony Fan But i Must admit the samsung note 5 is killing sony camera what a poor detail in z5 i hope there is improvement in the last release
Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Sony has never been good at software, just hardware. It's just a... Mystery
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Specially when it comes to Camera software they don't seem to be doing great.
I am always surprised that despite making good cameras and selling camera parts to other phone manufacturers, Sony phones have the worse cameras in the mobile phone industry. The Z3 camera is terrible relative to Apples and Samsungs and their previous phones were even worse. Hopefully they finally fix it with the Z5.
Wow....
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Yea Note 5 has a great camera indeed, but I am pretty sure this is related to Software, and eprice device doesn't have the latest camera UI that means it's not running on the latest build, so untill then we can't really say which is better.
But overall Sony has good colour accuracy when it's day-time, I hope it'll be fixed with updates. I really want is more control over the camera such as Manual shutter speed and raw. Hope to see more improvement before the phone's released.
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What latest camera ui?
I love LG G4 most
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What latest camera ui?
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Hello everyone, I have an S7E, and I've been using it for over a month. I love the device to bits... But I am having a problem. I don't like the temperature of the colors that it produces. I am coming from the G4, and the colors seem to be warmer. Is there a way to make pictures a bit warmer right off the bat? Maybe a filter or a custom setting? For example, if you have seen this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al9i0VnV0M4
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Even in my own test shots from the G4, G5 and S7E, I see that the colors are usually "brighter" or more "washed out." I know it's not my unit, since I have 2 S7E and I had another one before this for a total of 3.
Nothing is WRONG with the camera, or the pictures... I'd just like them to be a bit warmer... Is there any way to achieve this? Thank you
Use the Pro mode in the camera and set custom white balance. That's the best solution you can find. Or edit the pictures after you have taken them. Not perfect solutions but nothing else you can do about it really.
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Hello everyone, I have an S7E, and I've been using it for over a month. I love the device to bits... But I am having a problem. I don't like the temperature of the colors that it produces. I am coming from the G4, and the colors seem to be warmer. Is there a way to make pictures a bit warmer right off the bat? Maybe a filter or a custom setting? For example, if you have seen this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al9i0VnV0M4
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Even in my own test shots from the G4, G5 and S7E, I see that the colors are usually "brighter" or more "washed out." I know it's not my unit, since I have 2 S7E and I had another one before this for a total of 3.
Nothing is WRONG with the camera, or the pictures... I'd just like them to be a bit warmer... Is there any way to achieve this? Thank you
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Look at that screenshot...how do you actually see the scenery if you look at it with your own eyes ? Like the right, or the left image ?
The G4 pictures are not warmer, they just exhibit a "bad lens" effect, looking like they are shot from behind a glass window. Look at Canon for truly warmer tones.
PS: you can always adjust white balance in Pro mode.
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Look at that screenshot...how do you actually see the scenery if you look at it with your own eyes ? Like the right, or the left image ?
The G4 pictures are not warmer, they just exhibit a "bad lens" effect, looking like they are shot from behind a glass window. Look at Canon for truly warmer tones.
PS: you can always adjust white balance in Pro mode.
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Right is more true to life. I have a G4, G5 and S7E. I love the S7E for everything except the camera colors. Images are always more true to life colors on the G5 and G4. My partner has an S7E as well and always says that he prefers the colors not so true to life, but I do. That is the only flaw I can find in the S7E. So I was wondering if there was a way to fix it. White balance can be changed for every shot. But I'd have to adjust for EVERY shot. That's not very convenient. I really enjoy using mobile cameras since they're always on me.
Anyways, thanks. I just thought there would be an easier way.
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Right is more true to life. I have a G4, G5 and S7E. I love the S7E for everything except the camera colors. Images are always more true to life colors on the G5 and G4. My partner has an S7E as well and always says that he prefers the colors not so true to life, but I do. That is the only flaw I can find in the S7E. So I was wondering if there was a way to fix it. White balance can be changed for every shot. But I'd have to adjust for EVERY shot. That's not very convenient. I really enjoy using mobile cameras since they're always on me.
Anyways, thanks. I just thought there would be an easier way.
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The right picture is actually an example of horrible dynamic range, maybe like 8 stops.
I have vast experience with cameras, including many DSLRs, and the S7/Edge is the first smartphone camera that does not exhibit the "small/bad lens" and low dynamic range effect, pictures actually look like what you see, instead of looking dark and with low dynamic range. What you see in the G4 pictures is actually low dynamic range of the sensor, combined with a poor lens. The resolved detail may be high, but you always know that the pictures are taken with a smartphone. The S7/Edge pictures actually look a lot like DSLR pictures (especially Nikon) color-wise, you don't immediately know that they are taken with a smartphone. Find some Nikon DSLR samples and compare the colors.
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The right picture is actually an example of horrible dynamic range, maybe like 8 stops.
I have vast experience with cameras, including many DSLRs, and the S7/Edge is the first smartphone camera that does not exhibit the "small/bad lens" and low dynamic range effect, pictures actually look like what you see, instead of looking dark and with low dynamic range. What you see in the G4 pictures is actually low dynamic range of the sensor, combined with a poor lens. The resolved detail may be high, but you always know that the pictures are taken with a smartphone. The S7/Edge pictures actually look a lot like DSLR pictures (especially Nikon) color-wise, you don't immediately know that they are taken with a smartphone. Find some Nikon DSLR samples and compare the colors.
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I guess personally I couldn't disagree with you more.
I can personally guarantee that this color of the sky on the S7E is not the correct blue. I was there personally and shot these two pictures in auto mode. Both the wall and sky are far too bright and those are not the actual colors of the sky and monument.
But this is to taste. There are other shots where the clouds were completely eradicated by the Samsung and were there with the LG. And there were of course plenty of shots where the LG over exposed and the Samsung did it spot on! I'm not complaining about the shots. All I'm saying is that the LG is more accurate to real life colors in well lit situations, which is what I'd like to get on my Samsung. From what I've come to learn is that the LG has a color spectrometer or something like that which really makes a difference in some shots.
Going to back to what you said, the colors are lighter on my Samsung devices (3 S7E in my house) than on the LG devices (2 retires G4 s and 1 returned G5 and a new one on the way). Nothing wrong with it, it's just not my favorite color representation... [emoji4] I love my S7E regardless!
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The first thing I noticed when using the camera on this phone was how the images looked over processed. Most notably, I did a digital zoom photo yesterday and the sharpening on it was disgusting. It didn't even look like a photo.
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See what I mean? All I did was zoom in and take a photo. It looks horrible.
Look at this picture for example
Even just zoomed in a bit you can see way too much sharpening going on
Now I know this phone is a "budget phone" but it supposedly has the same lens as the Galaxy S7 so that isn't really an excuse. It looks like it comes down to it being the processing that moto put in.
Can anybody out there please let me know if rooting my phone and shooting RAW will produce cleaner photos? I would have to guess so, since I can control the sharpening myself. I haven't been able to find any RAW samples from this phone.
is it a software thing? I've converted to snap camera on whatever device.
I'm afraid it's in the firmware. Any camera app I've tried yields the same results
U should probably return or replace u your phone I had the same issue without even zooming
The phone couldn't focus on things right next the camera mine also had pink tints while recording
So I got mine replaced
Now everything works good
It's also the processor. The G5 plus has the 625 while the S7 had the 820 allowing for much better image processing.
nigaindelhi said:
U should probably return or replace u your phone I had the same issue without even zooming
The phone couldn't focus on things right next the camera mine also had pink tints while recording
So I got mine replaced
Now everything works good
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Well it focuses just fine, and pictures in day light look alright but there is some heavy noticeable processing going on in the moto firmware.
This picture looks pretty good but if you zoom in just a bit you can really see the over sharpening.
Here is a photo of my Nexus 5x
It looks much cleaner to me. Less over processing and less sharpening artifacts. The processor on the G5 Plus should be pretty comparable to the 808 in the N5x so I really don't think its a processor issue. It seems to me like it was a design choice by Moto. All of the sample photos I have seen also have too much sharpening. I am strongly considering just rooting the device and shooting raw. At least then I can control the sharpening myself
Well then we would have to wait for an update then
emoney1219 said:
It's also the processor. The G5 plus has the 625 while the S7 had the 820 allowing for much better image processing.
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It should make no difference, if you do the same processing in software - other than perhaps taking slightly longer to process the photo?
Otherwise, we'll have to shoot RAW if we want the best quality I guess?
It seems to me however, that any settings affecting the image processing quality should have parameters which could be changed?
critofur said:
It should make no difference, if you do the same processing in software - other than perhaps taking slightly longer to process the photo?
Otherwise, we'll have to shoot RAW if we want the best quality I guess?
It seems to me however, that any settings affecting the image processing quality should have parameters which could be changed?
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The processor contains the ISP or the Image Signal Processor which controls HDR, white balance, auto focus, exposure, color filters and so on. The better the ISP the better the image. So while the 2 phones have the same sensor they will never have the same image results because they have different processors and the more powerful chips have better ISP on board resulting in better images even with the same sensor.
The strength of this camera's focusing is in the sensor chip - "dual pixel focus".
All the other things you mention such as white balance, HDR, color filters are applied after the RAW image is taken - so, there's really no reason that you couldn't generate the same quality of image.
if nothing else, I'm upgrading my everyday knock around (2015) moto e. I won't complain toooooo much.
I have to agree with the OP on this one - there is some horrendous post-processing going on with this phone.
I'd love to get that to stop - even if we have to go to RAW/DNG to get it.
Has anyone done the root/Freedcam method described in another thread on here and gotten DNGs from this camera?
I'd love to see how they look... I'll eventually do it when LOS gets stable enough.
wait couple of days more, there will be some nice mods incoming for g5p camera.
srb- said:
I have to agree with the OP on this one - there is some horrendous post-processing going on with this phone.
I'd love to get that to stop - even if we have to go to RAW/DNG to get it.
Has anyone done the root/Freedcam method described in another thread on here and gotten DNGs from this camera?
I'd love to see how they look... I'll eventually do it when LOS gets stable enough.
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2017_05_09_17_44_53-Edit-Edit by defcomk, on Flickr
Raw No Flat Field Correction - Bad Noise Profile so color bleed when doing NR
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Raw No Flat Field Correction - Bad Noise Profile so color bleed when doing NR
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Looks like a promising photo to me!
I'm new around XDA... is will flat field correction and NR come with time, or is this the best we'll get?
srb- said:
Looks like a promising photo to me!
I'm new around XDA... is will flat field correction and NR come with time, or is this the best we'll get?
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Probably before Friday its only day two of having the phone but thanks for reminding me gonna do flat field now light nice and diffused