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[6.25.11][ROM] BAMF Sense 3.0 GB RC3

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With the release of the Shooter RUU, we now have an awesome port of Sense 3.0 for you guys. This took hours of dedication to complete, with a TIRELESS dedication on Erishasnobattery's part, we are happy to bring you a complete port of Sense 3.0 to you guys. As you all know, this takes hours and hours of head bashing, knuckle busting, girlfriend ignoring, and beer swigging to complete. Please show your appreciation if at all possible! Believe me, every cent is appreciated!! Links are below.
ThatDudeButch: Donate
Erishasnobattery: Donate
Adrynalyne: Donate
Trident: Donate​
-=FEATURES=-​• Initial release, based of our BAMF GB base including the BAMF Toolkit (Don't think we need to keep posting that here, for more info refer to the other GB roms)
• Complete port of the Sense 3.0 from the Shooter leak (Erishasnobattery is da man!)
• Latest Dream Kernel
• Custom Boot Animation (Gadget!)
• Custom Shutdown Animation (TDButch)
• Native swipe function! (TDButch)
• BAMF ROM Analytics app added (Please opt in! Totally safe, just reads build prop for rom version etc)
• Clear Button resized and relocated (TDButch)
• Native HTC Trace Keyboard (TDButch)
• Wake with Volume Keys (Adrynalyne)
• Tons more
-=RECOMMENDED SETUP INSTRUCTIONS=-​• PLEASE PERFORM A FULL WIPE BEFORE FLASHING
• AFTER SETTING UP GOOGLE ACCOUNT, LET GOOGLE SYNC FULLY TO AVOID LAG
• THE MR2 RADIO HAS PROVIDED THE BEST SPEED AND RELIABILITY RESULTS
-=CHANGELOGS=-​Changelog For RC3:
1. Fully reworked and newer Rosie Launcher with correct app drawer scrolling.
2. Fully working camera including FFC/video
3. Sense LWP is scaled correctly.
4. Speed dial 2 now works.
5. Flikr and Books added.
6. Fixed bad strings in Gmail settings.
7. Fixed calendar sizing.
8. Video player sized properly.
9. Scenes preview sized properly.
10. Car panel is sized properly.
-=DOWNLOADS=-​
MD5: 670E078FA5223CC40CBE3B0751DE7751​
Site 1:​http://adrynalyne.gcode.biz/rom/BAMF-Sense3-RC3.zip​
Site 2:​http://adrynalyne.us/files/roms/BAMF-Sense3-RC3.zip​
Site 3:​http://www.multiupload.com/NGJGV7K5W5​

From erishasnobattery:
We will keep all bugs/fixes updated in the first few posts here.
Please, post a bug once. If you have a potential fix, PM me. I will test it and get it added to this post.
Let's not have a repeat of last time. If you can't use the search function, don't use our ROMs.
Also, if it's not posted in one of our posts, it's not an approved mod. We take absolutely zero responsibility for anything that happens.
Known Issues:
There numerous graphical bugs, such as misalignment and colors being off. Please, unless it is affecting the usability of the phone, don't post them. (We are squashing these as time goes)
Pin screen and password unlock screen are sized incorrectly
Some fonts/images may appear a little fuzzy on the home screens. At this point, with the tools available, there isn't much we can do with it.
No Verizon VM notfications. Base ROM issue. It won't be fixed without a new leak.
Force close in music app. (trouble reproducing)
[*]Camcorder only supports up to 14mbps recording. Anything higher will cause it to close. To be included with RC4.
No .wma Playback.
G-sensor Calibration Issue - Kernel Related. (Talk to your friendly kernel devs)
[Watch app not working quite right yet.
Bad strings in the Calendar Widget. (trouble reproducing)
Twitter causing FC on phone calls.
Speed dial 2 now selectable, but only dials 2....
Car dock needs a bit more love.
If your screen is staying off, slow to turn back on, general weirdness when coming off a sleep state, try increasing your minimum clock speed. I have the best balance or performance/battery at 368/368 for screen off and 368/1.2 normal.
The Manage applications page is freaking out. See Below.
Patches:
6 Bar signal - Official BAMF mod. THANKS rbox!!!
Disable wake on Volume Courtesy of bp328i.
Looking for Netflix, My Verizon, or VVM? Arcanexvi put this little thread together to keep them all current and working for everyone.
Free scrolling app drawer, courtesy of ihtfp
Help! My Manage Applications page is freaking out!
The base leak, for whatever reason, has a serious problem with populating the applications list.
At the bottom of the screen, there is a 2 tone gray and green bar. There is a small animation that appears once everything is loaded above the gray portion.
DO NOT, and I repeat DO NOT, modify any apps in any way shape or form if this has not appeared. Do not force stop, uninstall, clear data, or clear cache when they are flickering. This means the package has not been fully loaded and linked. You might think you are clearing data on Angry birds when in fact it is Accounts and settings.
I got a little overzealous on one last night and ended up having to do a complete wipe and reinstall.
Need help setting up Google Voice? Thank RootandBoot for these instructions!
Originally Posted by RootandBoot >
To use Google voice.
Get your new number from Google.
Download the Google voice app, skip the VM setup. Choose to make no calls from Google voice.
On your phone dial *71 and your Google number (that is call forward no answer) put the 1 infront of the area code.
That's it.
When someone leaves a VM it will show on your notification bar.

Reserved.......

Awesome can't wait for the link running rc1
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man you guys going all out with this port huh lol good job though appreciate all the developing

you guys are awesome

Damn, you guys are freakin rom building machines.
Wonder if when the official GB build is released, if you are going to have to redo all this, or do you guys think this will move right over?
Thank you, of course.

happimeal said:
Damn, you guys are freakin rom building machines.
Wonder if when the official GB build is released, if you are going to have to redo all this, or do you guys think this will move right over?
Thank you, of course.
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It won't be too bad.
--I hope.

Hells yea I can't wait till you guys start throwing some themes down keep up the great work das bamf 4 life.

adrynalyne...a very heartfelt thank you to you and the rest of the BAMF team for putting out some AWESOME ROMs for our phones! Makes them so much more enjoyable & fun to show off to friends & family!!

adrynalyne said:
It won't be too bad.
--I hope.
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Lol. It really won't. This is 85% shooter anyway.
Sent from my Motorola StarTAC.

My phone keep freezing yesterday. So thanks for the minimum setting, I had it on 245. I'll keep this in mind

Good thing the girlfriend has to work in an hour. I'd just blame it on her anyway, she was the one on the call last night when it froze up.
Thanks again Team, you guys have done some awesome work and it is appreciated.
You guys know your work is amazing when you have to upload to 2 servers to try to prevent crashing.

Some of the best developers all rolled into one I knew it was going to be kick azz when I seen they were all working together. Hold on tight everyone and try to keep up with das bamf because they set the bar.

wahoo!! im in

mp3ster said:
Some of the best developers all rolled into one I knew it was going to be kick azz when I seen they were all working together. Hold on tight everyone and try to keep up with das bamf because they set the bar.
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We didn't even ask eris...we just kidnapped him and put him to work.

Have there been any reported bricks when using the MR2 radio?

I am uploading to two other locations as I am typing this.

adrynalyne said:
We didn't even ask eris...we just kidnapped him and put him to work.
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True story. I get one plate of food a day that butch slides under the door.
Sent from my Motorola StarTAC.

adrynalyne said:
We didn't even ask eris...we just kidnapped him and put him to work.
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One of the best abductions ever LOL

My First impressions with XXLP2

For noobs.
AOSP lovers and TW haters, there is a ← button in your keyboard.
I already mentioned about previously leaked XXKPA before, so no point mentioning those points again, instead read it,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440011
• Better than KPA, more bugs are fixed. Still a Beta, of course. Progress is good.
• Phone calls were great. In call earpiece volume was great, as well as speaker, NR was there to be manually turn on/off.
• Now maybe I am wrong but I thing the Vibration intensity for call alerts was fainter than previous release, but if you check it under settings then it was very strong. Weird. Please give feedback on this.
• Same incoming call UI, call answer/reject buttons doesn't animate.
• Phone signal, 3G/H+, WiFi, BT everything worked fine.
• There was NO problem while switching networks to different mode, GSM, Auto etc. This ain't a pros.
• FM radio does work, worked before as well.
• 480x800 walls works well, LWP is definitely smoother than before, can't say if it's same smooth as GB!
• Lock screen ICS animation is still weird.
• Market worked on first try, downloading is working too. No problem here.
• Face unlock does work. OMG, what a time wasting gimmick is this thing.
• Swype is present. But I don't know if it's only me but the default Samsung KB was in QWERTZ format instead of QWERTY.
• GPS lock is fine.
• Same email app (which is poor imo, horrible background choice and you can't change it), damn. GMail app is same as well, no Multi touch support. Now I don't like it.
• 1080P videos (I tried with FLC) were horrible to watch, lagged all the way. I am sure they haven't done anything with it since last release.
• Camera in full res and VR at 1080p works fine usually.
• Same Missed call and SMS notification icon in LS.
• Touch keys does glow up this time.
• Call log entries does show a compact mode if you tap on a particular number. This wasn't present on KPA. A big relief for me.
• Haptic feedback works.
• Now the browser, all the options are there as before, with scrolling has gone much faster and smoother now, you can now scroll a long page with one or two slides now. It should be a big plus point for me and the users who uses Stock browser all time.
I think Sammy doesn't know that there is an 'Exit' word in dictionary
• Development option is present, very normal.
• Connection with PC worked at first go.
• The elastic scrolling all over the UI is a pleasing thing to play with, Hardware acceleration is at effect, a great job done by Samsung, already, still more than two months to go to keep their word.
• Battery life seems good. Lost only 3% in an overnight duration of 9 hours. GPS was on all time. However Standby time isn't a thing to consider battery backup IMO.
• There was a feature in the stock dialer, don't know what's it called actually, with which you just need to press the number keys and it would search for the contacts going by that digits you've entered, but that feature is missing. And it's a PITA for me who has to use the dialer all time to call him or her.
For exmaple: If you need to dial John, then just pressing 5646 in dialer would show that contact, as 5646 contains the word J, O, H & N. But that feature is lacking here and should be included back in Final release.
••• My Conclusion:
I am keeping it for a while and this definitely is a DAILY USE ROM.
Nuff said.
I'll add some more points and a short video with LP2 later. In the mean time screenshots added.
PS- A video is coming later, already uploaded but deleted from YouTube due to long length !
Regards.
PS- Please come and share your feedbacks with this please, I like to be a noob and definitely missed points.
TIA.
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ithehappy said:
For noobs.
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Thanks for making another thread. Three threads with "XXLP2" on the first page of this forum wasn't enough, so I'm glad it's now four.

I have to ask! That ridicusly sticky scrolling in like the Facebook app, is that fixed? U said that it was fixed in browser but is it fixed in all apps?

The home button doesn't seem to work for me. is there some setting that needs to be enabled ?
Also none of the lockscreens work either. and there is no task manager as well..

oinkylicious said:
Thanks for making another thread. Three threads with "XXLP2" on the first page of this forum wasn't enough, so I'm glad it's now four.
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does any other thread has any crisp info as this?

bala_gamer said:
does any other thread has any crisp info as this?
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Agreed. I really appreciate these threads, its exactly what I want. I hate reading through tons of posts with no useful information.
These tell me exactly what I want, in an easy to read way.
Thanks ithehappy.

Hows battery life and can you set the clock alarm? i need it for work!

Thanks for the review. I know its still early days but any fcs, wakelocks problems so far? Hows stable is the network connection? Cheers
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

ballist1x said:
Hows battery life and can you set the clock alarm? i need it for work!
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just flashed so nothing can be said about the battery life.
Alarm works fine. just tested it.

wifi direct is not workinf...

can this rom XXLP2 read USB OTG (flash disk)?

Finding battery life vastly improved compared to LP1
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

Regarding videos, I tried MX Video Player on KPA and my 1080p videos worked perfectly fine. Smooth. Maybe you can try that.

scottishlad80 said:
Finding battery life vastly improved compared to LP1
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
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How's battery life compared to KL1 or any gb rom.?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

stock music player worked with most dpi values in LP1, hope it works in LP2 too

h_andria said:
can this rom XXLP2 read USB OTG (flash disk)?
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Someone who have flashed the rom plz answer. Even I want to know whether isb otg is supported or not
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

Is Gtalk working fine ??

oinkylicious said:
Thanks for making another thread. Three threads with "XXLP2" on the first page of this forum wasn't enough, so I'm glad it's now four.
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You are welcome.
a1exander said:
I have to ask! That ridicusly sticky scrolling in like the Facebook app, is that fixed? U said that it was fixed in browser but is it fixed in all apps?
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Don't know if you are saying about the official Facebook for Android app, but here on my side scrolling through that app is buttery smooth
netcitizen said:
The home button doesn't seem to work for me. is there some setting that needs to be enabled ?
Also none of the lockscreens work either. and there is no task manager as well..
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Home button works abslutely fine here.
Yes, there is Task Manager, don't know what you're saying, but if you are holding down Home button then you'll see the task manager at the lower left bottom side.
Every type of lockscreens work, including Face Unlock.
Remoteconcern said:
Agreed. I really appreciate these threads, its exactly what I want. I hate reading through tons of posts with no useful information.
These tell me exactly what I want, in an easy to read way.
Thanks ithehappy.
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You're very welcome.
ballist1x said:
Hows battery life and can you set the clock alarm? i need it for work!
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Impossible to comment on battery life. I am not that much interested to test it atm anyway
Alarm Clock works just fine as some other users have also reported.
vassalle said:
Thanks for the review. I know its still early days but any fcs, wakelocks problems so far? Hows stable is the network connection? Cheers
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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Network connection is damn stable, gotta say.
Not a single FC, once CWM got unresponsive and for the first time I've seen some pop up message saying 'Application is not responding, wait or exit', wish I could capture it on screenshot.
Logi_Ca1 said:
Regarding videos, I tried MX Video Player on KPA and my 1080p videos worked perfectly fine. Smooth. Maybe you can try that.
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Yep, MX works fine with S/W decoder option.
bala_gamer said:
stock music player worked with most dpi values in LP1, hope it works in LP2 too
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Thanks fyi. That's cool then.
darshanbangre said:
Is Gtalk working fine ??
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Absolutely.
I am uploading a video just to show the whole system wide experience, it's a bit long as I've no intention to show any specific problems or features, just a normal video to check how would you feel with TW+ICS. I should upload another video showing only the problems/bugs, as the added features are already been mentioned. Lets see when I get free time for that.
You guys using this firmware please come and post your feedback here, any problems or bugs or any cool thing you've noticed etc.
Thanks in advance.

there is a call answer-reject animation
once you hold your finger on answer it turns into a larger circle just like on the lockscreen. moving your finger out of that circle answers the call.

I installed LP2 sometime back and it did work fine till I enabled face unlock.
I was able to unlock couple of times and after that Face unlock wouldn't work and worse, the pattern code also didn't. Looked like the entire service crashed.
Back to stock but apart from that, stable release.

Concept: HD2.5

Hi XDA,
I just want to start of by saying that the HD2 is probably the best thing I ever bought. Still, after more than 2 years, it remains a highly functioning phone. I sometimes run Android (TBD Sensation XL) on it, and sometimes Windows Phone 7.5. (The latest version by Pdaimatejam is amazing, and 100% working, including multitouch and camera) Both amazing roms which run extremely well on our aging phone.
There is on thing, however, which bothers me. This might seem to many as a minor flaw, but to me, keeping a perfect design philosophy in mind, really is a dealbreaker sometimes. This is the fact that the illustrations on the buttons don't represent their true functions in both OS's. The other day I brought my damaged back cover back to life by giving it a brushed metal finish (http://blog.whitesites.com/Chrome-HTC-HD2-Battery-Cover-Tutorial__634103488469591250_blog.htm) Now this got me thinking, what if we could somehow modify the HD2 in order to make it feel like a new phone, which natively runs Android and/or Windows Phone. Together with the chrome back cover it would look awesome!
Now, there's already a tutorial for chroming the back cover. However, to modify the illustrations on the buttons would be more difficult. First and foremost, Android and Windows Phone bother require different buttons. Windows phone requires a power button, a camera button, a back button, a home/start button and a search button. While Android (looking at Sensation XL/Runnymede) requires a power button, a menu button, a search button, a home button and a back button. Both configurations, in my opinion, are optimized for their respective OS's. And for those who might not know, the HD2 has a call button, a home button, a windows start button, a back button and a power/call end button. I haven't really figured out how to actually modify the buttons themselves. Possibly, some sort of extra though stickers would do. These would maybe also allow to be removed, so the phone can be sold again. But, XDA, all difficulties aside, behold, the HD2.5:
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Looks awesome, doesn't it?​
The button configuration, in my opinion, makes sense for both OS's (WP and Android). Let's talk about them from right to left. The on the far right is obviously the power button. It's function is straightforward. The conscientious reader might notice that the original HD2 also has a call end icon on it. Well, it doesn't fulfill this function in both OS's so I removed it. The button next to the power button is the search button. Also, the function of it is self-explanatory. The original HD2 lacks a search button, but in my opinion WP and Android work well with one. In the middle there's the home button. In Android it would redirect the user to the home screen (duh), and in Windows Phone it would bring the user to the start menu. A reasonably representative icon for both right? To the left of the home button is the back button. Again, a necessity for both OS's and the function of which is pretty self-explanatory as well. In Windows Phone it serves a more powerful function in my opinion though And finally, to the far left, there's a peculiar icon. Let's zoom in to have a closer look:
I actually came up with this icon while brain-storming for an icon which means both 'camera' and 'menu/options'. Well, tadaa. While using Windows Phone it would represent a shutter, which would more accurately describe its function than 'camera' anyway. In Android it would have the menu/options function, which makes sense, as it also looks like a gear. Like it? And while only a mock-up, I think it's the best solution for the problem of button configuration. Oh, and the order of the buttons (which could have been any, obviously) is thought through. It's based on the Windows Phone order, with the less important ones (power and shutter/options) on the sides.
Here's a mock-up of it running Windows Phone:
And here's one of it running Android with sense 3.5 (Sensation XL):
They both look amazing right?
I hope you guys like this concept. AND, if anybody can figure out a way to get the icons on the buttons (as said before, maybe some sort of sticker) please let me know! And by the way, the actual function of the buttons in the OS is easily changeable. In Android it can easily be cooked in, and there are numerous apps in the marketplace for it. In WP, the extra settings app by Cotulla does the job.
We modified the HD2 so thoroughly that we might as well modify its name as well! HD2.5!
Thanks devs btw!

Looks really nice! for the buttons; Maybe we could rub the icons off with white spirits (dont know whether it would work) then use some transfers to put teh new icons on? or some stickers would do the job but I reckon transfers would be a more professional finish

james1123 said:
Looks really nice! for the buttons; Maybe we could rub the icons off with white spirits (dont know whether it would work) then use some transfers to put teh new icons on? or some stickers would do the job but I reckon transfers would be a more professional finish
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I don't think we can rub it off; I assume the shapes are deeply engraved into the button strip. Since they conduct light? or is it just a finish ? And a sticker would block the light.

I did a random grind on mine. The picture doesnt show it too well but it looks awesome and with the Pdaimatejam (the best thing thats ever happened to the HD2) it's a whole new phone.
The HD2 has light pipes for the buttons.. so you could paint black over them then silkscreen the white icons, but you'd loose the ability to have light up buttons.
Hmm... I have a silkscreen department here at work, I might give that a try.

Surely the place for any stickers is in the gap between the buttons and the screen where it says HTC
Nice Idea though.
@theDante, last time I did silkscreen printing was at school, ink everywhere good luck.

whats the construction on the buttons, might it be easier to get replacements?

Hi guys, thanks for all the attention! I have also submitted this to the portal, to help it get more attention. Please do so as well! Wouldn't it be awesome if we could make this happen? I'm more than willing to modify mine btw, never going resell it anyway!

I don't like the back cover at all, but the buttons are really, really nice.
I hope you guys find a way to do it!

If you need practice http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/500224657/New_Keypad_button_repair_part_for.html
Or get a bulk order with new design and sell them on (to brave people willing to remove screen)

Robbie P said:
If you need practice http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/500224657/New_Keypad_button_repair_part_for.html
Or get a bulk order with new design and sell them on (to brave people willing to remove screen)
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Wow that seems awesome, any experience with removing the screen btw?

demaxmeister said:
Wow that seems awesome, any experience with removing the screen btw?
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haven't needed to yet. There are plenty of tutorials around on xda, not sure how easy it would be to just replace buttons.

just sent a message to the supplier on Alibaba asking whether he could do a custom design on the keypads, I will post back when he answers me.
Maybe we could all chip in for a bulk order, dont know how much he will want but im willing to chip in for it.

Awesome, let me know!

FYI XBmod will release easy hardkey remapping in his next ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22215801&postcount=1328. Also in android there are many choices of softkey mods see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413582.
I am not entirely sure I would want the camera button on the left. With Yuki's NODO rom I had many blank photos which were shot from in my pocket, although I think you can disable the camera-on function. It is the LHS and RHS buttons which are more likely to be accidentally pressed. A camera button is needed though for panorama shots.
I hate to throw any spanners but thought the above worth mentioning.

Robbie P said:
FYI XBmod will release easy hardkey remapping in his next ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22215801&postcount=1328. Also in android there are many choices of softkey mods see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413582.
I am not entirely sure I would want the camera button on the left. With Yuki's NODO rom I had many blank photos which were shot from in my pocket, although I think you can disable the camera-on function. It is the LHS and RHS buttons which are more likely to be accidentally pressed. A camera button is needed though for panorama shots.
I hate to throw any spanners but thought the above worth mentioning.
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Yeah it's not ideal, it has happened to me once before as well. However, I like keeping it enabled as it does help to snap that perfect moment Thanks for both apps, those will come in helpful when we find a way to modify the buttons.

Ready for another spanner?
Just found http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
The button is the second from last thing to be removed
But it beats saturday night TV for entertainment
Edit; I just watched part 2 and had a lump in my throat when I saw newborn HD2

Robbie P said:
Ready for another spanner?
Just found http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
The button is the second from last thing to be removed
But it beats saturday night TV for entertainment
Edit; I just watched part 2 and had a lump in my throat when I saw newborn HD2
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good find, my LCD panel is leaking backlight an tats just the ticket I was looking for to replace it =) ill thank you when I get to a computer
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

an other battery cover mod
All you need is some sandpaper and metal polish. This will definetly make your phone stand out.
more info :
http://blog.whitesites.com/Chrome-HTC-HD2-Battery-Cover-Tutorial__634103488469591250_blog.htm

Weirdly, this thread hasn't been featured on the XDA Portal yet, and I was told they love HD2 related articles. Again, please recommend this to the portal so we can atteact attention for this I'm now looking into ordering modified keypads, I'll keep you guys posted!

where to get the new key pad or sticket for my HD2, I AM USING TBD_Sensation_XL_Gen3_stock_V3.6

[Q] Does LG G2 Front Touch Buttons have multi-tasking button?

Hi,
By default, multi-tasking on LG G2 works by holding the home button.
Actually, I love Nexus' buttons because I'm a sucker for multi-tasking and I hate pressing & holding/waiting.
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I was planning on buying Nexus 5, after hating the multi-tasking on my current Samsung S3, but it seems LG G2 is a better choice in terms of battery, screen and also camera.
So my question is, can I put that multi-tasking button on LG G2? Holding & waiting is a deal breaker for me.

Custom rom?

this is not q and a section
but if u root u can probably ad a different button and remap it

You can customize your navigation buttons to some degree on the stock ROM, and I'm pretty sure Recent Apps is one of the buttons you can configure.
Though personally I like Halo))) for multi tasking a lot more. But you will need a custom ROM for that.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

khaytsus said:
Custom rom?
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Nope. This phone is highly customized and I don't want to lose features.
Also I'm afraid of dealing any kind of invalidated warranty issues. I wouldn't use a custom rom for this phone, instead I'd buy Nexus 5 if that's the case.
maydayind said:
this is not q and a section
but if u root u can probably ad a different button and remap it
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Well the "new thread" page has a "if this is a Question" option, and I chose it. Why is it there otherwise?

Vepaot said:
You can customize your navigation buttons to some degree on the stock ROM, and I'm pretty sure Recent Apps is one of the buttons you can configure.
Though personally I like Halo))) for multi tasking a lot more. But you will need a custom ROM for that.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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That customization option of LG G2 is why I asked this question. At this youtu.be/YLS9T2oFsWY?t=25s YouTube Video I see that there's no multi-tasking touch button option. See the attachment #1 here please.
However, on the attachment #2, from this youtu.be/lKUUkGEs5hc?t=59s YouTube Video the guy seems to have multi-tasking button. He commented that he uses "GMD Auto Hide Soft Keys", but I don't know if that app made the multi-tasking button or it can be enabled without a 3rd party app.
I'm still thinking it can't be done without a custom rom. I'd like to know this as certain before buying a phone, so if anyone knows I'd be glad.

Root, install Xposed Framework and buy Xposed G2 premium features. You will then be able to use the Recents button.

Rooting would void the warranty as well, so that's not an option for him.
Unfortunately I don't have a stock ROM to go and test for you. I've got mine all set up the way I want and flashing back would mess up all of my custom notification sounds even with a nandroid backup.
GMD Auto Hide also requires root access, so I think you're boned either way. If you aren't willing to make the modifications to get your device working the way you'd like, then I don't think this is the phone for you. I hope you find one that has the default features you're looking for.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

There is literally no other way than at least rooting and following my steps. I believe a clean flash will reset the root flag so his warranty will be alright (perhaps also selecting Unroot in SuperSU before clean flashing).

What you see circled in red below is the option button, not multi tasking unfortunately
Sent from my LG-D803 using Tapatalk

metalboy94 said:
There is literally no other way than at least rooting and following my steps. I believe a clean flash will reset the root flag so his warranty will be alright (perhaps also selecting Unroot in SuperSU before clean flashing).
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I believe if you need to root a new model phone at the day one , you shouldn't buy it at all.
My rooting experience
Once I was using HTC Desire, its volume down button was stuck. It wasn't starting up, because volume down button makes it enter the boot menu. It was also rooted and wasn't able to unroot it in any way since it wasn't opening. Even the boot menu was not working because the volume down made the menu continuously select the next item.
Thank god the warranty service replaced the phone entirely. If they would have started it up, the warranty would be probably voided.
And I don't live in U.S., warranty services much more *****y around here. You cannot even return a product after you open the sealed box, even if you opened it in the store. It goes to technical service, gets approved for refunding, takes weeks. Less customer rights around here.
That's why I will never pay hundreds of $$$ to some phone I need to get into risk. Also I don't have time for it. I start rooting the phone, then customizing, then more options, more apps, other roms, it takes too much time. I prefer to use what I buy with a clear head. If it's not for me, I wouldn't buy it. So I'm here to understand if this phone is for me or not. This is how I feel. I believe many of you believe otherwise, but we are not all the same.

I disagree with your opinion, the great thing about Android is that if you can think it, you can do it.
But I understand what you are saying and it is your money and your choice. Ultimately, what makes you happy is the most important thing to consider when making a purchase, and it sounds like this feature is a deal breaker for you.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

I'm not from the US either, so I am also subject to harsher warranties.
However, what you are requesting is not something ordinary, and definitely not something offered by other manufacturers (everyone uses a preset layout of buttons, the G2 is AFAIK the first phone with a customizable navigation bar out of the box). It is normal that you will have to modify the stock ROM for that, and this kind of customizing is the very heart of Android. If you take risks, you can get amazing results.
Sent from my LG-D802 using xda app-developers app

I use Apex launcher and I assign Swipe Up gesture to open the Recent Apps / Multi-tasking function (even without root)..

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metalboy94 said:
I'm not from the US either, so I am also subject to harsher warranties.
However, what you are requesting is not something ordinary, and definitely not something offered by other manufacturers (everyone uses a preset layout of buttons, the G2 is AFAIK the first phone with a customizable navigation bar out of the box). It is normal that you will have to modify the stock ROM for that, and this kind of customizing is the very heart of Android. If you take risks, you can get amazing results.
Sent from my LG-D802 using xda app-developers app
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I disagree that what I want is not ordinary. LG G2 allows customizing the buttons. They could have easily let users run an app when tapping a custom button (there are apps to show multi-tasking window up) or let users execute a command from a list.
Allowing customization but presenting only a few options is just meaningless.
For example instead of Quick Notes button, or opening notification panel button there putting a search button might help some people, like HTC had in previous phones.
In new models HTC also presents multi-tasking touch button. Again, multi-tasking button is ordinary enough.
For example I could have liked my current Samsung S3 if it allowed me to open multi-tasking window by swiping the menu touch button. But Samsung doesn't present any customization in that area, so I never even searched anything about that on the internet. Most people I know and I prefer to tap Samsung's back button 3-4 times to return to home screen instead of pressing the physical button. Because it is faster to tap the back button, and my phone's home button really needs some pressure to work.
I was amazed when I saw LG offered customization for touch buttons, but disappointed right now because their customization offers only more or less 8 options.
The bottom buttons are the constant and most used user interaction point, I don't understand how manufacturers don't see this.
asrulz said:
I use Apex launcher and I assign Swipe Up gesture to open the Recent Apps / Multi-tasking function (even without root)..
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Hmm, I should try this. This sounds it may work for me. Thanks!

It can be done without a custom ROM by using G2 Xposed. That of course requires root, but who would want to not root? Rooting is amazing!
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk

Yes. With root.
This is my phone, with stock LG ROM. Rooted and installed G2 Xposed (free version).
Fine if you do not want to root, you can try using LG's (dumb) feature called Slide Aside where you can use 3 fingers to hibernate apps and resume them, similar to recents. It's the dumbest feature I've seen from ANY phone maker, but it's there.
Sent from my LG-D802 using xda app-developers app

An option
How about pressing and holding the home button and when the app list pops select the desired app....

lombak2006 said:
How about pressing and holding the home button and when the app list pops select the desired app....
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I use recent apps button frequently, so holding & waiting is not my first choice. I'm aware of that feature. I hate holding and waiting. My current Samsung S3 is like that too. You hold & wait for things like moving icons, which are not frequently used. I'm addicted to alt+tab on my desktop pc too. I use many apps simultaneously.

cm or stock based

This is a discussion to compare these two systems for our phone who has more new and practical function.

gentr said:
This is a discussion to compare these two systems for our phone who has more new and practical function.
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I am using RR (cm13) since months, and it runs really great, but I am also looking to try a debloated stock imperium soon ?
Any comparisations are welcome.
pOpY
Gesendet von meinem LG-H815 mit Tapatalk

I used imperium rom since I bought my LG g4... Some day ago I switched to cm13... Except some bugs like the switch 3g/lte that doesn't work automatically and the bug with encryption cm13 is more battery friendly and smoother then the imperium with the same application installed.

Aldideos said:
I used imperium rom since I bought my LG g4... Some day ago I switched to cm13... Except some bugs like the switch 3g/lte that doesn't work automatically and the bug with encryption cm13 is more battery friendly and smoother then the imperium with the same application installed.
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Sei un grande!
You are the boss!

Aldideos said:
I used imperium rom since I bought my LG g4... Some day ago I switched to cm13... Except some bugs like the switch 3g/lte that doesn't work automatically and the bug with encryption cm13 is more battery friendly and smoother then the imperium with the same application installed.
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What future settings you get on cm expect the smooth, regarding a stock based rom can you be more detailed

These are my experiences based on months of G4 (H815) use with both stock-based (Imperium and Genisys) and CM13.
Stock-Based ROM:
- Amazing camera, especially if you can properly use manual mode
- Good audio quality
- Still has more bloatware than needed (even the best ones like Imperium)
- Slower security patches
CM13:
- Noticeably smoother and lighter
- More battery
- Camera is still very good but you lose manual mode
- Very fast security updates (like google nexus)
- Will soon be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat
- Zero bloatware
- Audio quality is slightly lower
Hope this will help you!
Ps: both stock based and CM13 right now are 100% stable, if you hear people having issue they either 1) Haven't clean flashed or 2) they don't have H815

marn3us said:
These are my experiences based on months of G4 (H815) use with both stock-based (Imperium and Genisys) and CM13.
Stock-Based ROM:
- Amazing camera, especially if you can properly use manual mode
- Good audio quality
- Still has more bloatware than needed (even the best ones like Imperium)
- Slower security patches
CM13:
- Noticeably smoother and lighter
- More battery
- Camera is still very good but you lose manual mode
- Very fast security updates (like google nexus)
- Will soon be updated to Android 7.0 Nougat
- Zero bloatware
- Audio quality is slightly lower
Hope this will help you!
Ps: both stock based and CM13 right now are 100% stable, if you hear people having issue they either 1) Haven't clean flashed or 2) they don't have H815
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I'm looking for a OS "upgrade" too, but I'm aware of losing camera features... With CM can you still shoot raw?

siphid said:
I'm looking for a OS "upgrade" too, but I'm aware of losing camera features... With CM can you still shoot raw?
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With some apps yes

This is the wrong forum/place for this topic, but I'll throw my 2 cents out there as well. Everyone's phone is different, so I will try to simply point out software only differences. Also not to try and repeat what "marn3us" stated above. Pretty sure H815 or H811 don't matter, not with the comparison below.
For me, I really like the following
STOCK:
-In call floating pop up. Simply best feature I know, have not seen it on anything else really. While other end is ringing or talking, you can multi task and almost instantly get back to the call when they pick up or you're done doing other things. Sure w.out that floating bubble, one could pull down the notif panel but I personally find the bubble a bit more convenient (esp how you can move it around).
-VoLTE. I have LTE everywhere I live, so I like to take advantage of that. Also WifiCalling if I need it
-Lockscreen. I love how it works. If I have my phone in my pocket and somehow the screen gets turned on while I am trying to pull it out, if I accidentally tap a notification it does not automatically open. Stock lockscreen requires one tap of notif + full swipe then it will open that notif app. No way of accidentally opening apps showing notifications. Non-stock, double tap any notif and it opens...some ROMs are worse than others, with a broken prox sensor allowing you to open notifs even with screen off in your pocket...making all sorts of pocket activity (calls/text/etc.). The stock way of 'Click + Swipe below' for me works great. Also the prox sensor works 100% on stock ROMs so 100% of time in your pocket it will never have pocket action.
-Lockscreen Pt2: Double-tap to wake/sleep. Works almost every single time. I love the dt2s on LS (some ROMS do have this but with the bad way of simply double-tap a notif to open [on non-stock roms] sometimes I'll double tap the notification instead of turning my screen back off...errr.)
-Data/Service. I find stock has a much better response to reception. In some dead-zone places (like a basement), I have very low service. With non-stock, I almost always lose service completely in same area. Then it doesn't come back until I airplane toggle/leave dead-zone. Stock seems to give better reception everywhere.
-Incom Call Pop-up: Very nice with the ability to simply hide the pop-up and let the phone keep ringing. I found on non-stock there is no way to hide the pop up (actually maybe by a swipe now I think about it, though does that decline the call?).
For me, those 4-5 things are the main points why I cannot use anything other than Stock. Also for me, stock works perfectly fine. No lag and everything just works (I clear recents and restart every couple of days). I try new builds of non-stock all the time, a day or 2 then realize I am missing my fav features above so then I go back. I recently found out the LG SmartWorld app allows you to theme some parts of the UI (icons, fonts, some colors, etc.)..combined with the Tweaksbox, you can do some good Stock changes.
I never really had a problem with lag/performance. I also always used the Imperium kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/kernel-imperium-kernel-g4-v1-0-t3282915 which seems to always do well for my phone. I also turn animations down to .5 in dev options, everytime I flash stock...makes it much quicker. I also know with stock, it's pretty much all optimized code for our phone...AOSP based miss a bunch of proprietary code which I think takes out some of the potential of this phone. Wish every company was like 1+, dev friendly.

theslam08 said:
-Lockscreen. I love how it works. If I have my phone in my pocket and somehow the screen gets turned on while I am trying to pull it out, if I accidentally tap a notification it does not automatically open. Stock lockscreen requires one tap of notif + full swipe then it will open that notif app. No way of accidentally opening apps showing notifications. Non-stock, double tap any notif and it opens...some ROMs are worse than others, with a broken prox sensor allowing you to open notifs even with screen off in your pocket...making all sorts of pocket activity (calls/text/etc.). The stock way of 'Click + Swipe below' for me works great. Also the prox sensor works 100% on stock ROMs so 100% of time in your pocket it will never have pocket action.
-Lockscreen Pt2: Double-tap to wake/sleep. Works almost every single time. I love the dt2s on LS (some ROMS do have this but with the bad way of simply double-tap a notif to open [on non-stock roms] sometimes I'll double tap the notification instead of turning my screen back off...errr.)
-Data/Service. I find stock has a much better response to reception. In some dead-zone places (like a basement), I have very low service. With non-stock, I almost always lose service completely in same area. Then it doesn't come back until I airplane toggle/leave dead-zone. Stock seems to give better reception everywhere.
-Incom Call Pop-up: Very nice with the ability to simply hide the pop-up and let the phone keep ringing. I found on non-stock there is no way to hide the pop up (actually maybe by a swipe now I think about it, though does that decline the call?).
I never really had a problem with lag/performance. I also always used the Imperium kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/kernel-imperium-kernel-g4-v1-0-t3282915 which seems to always do well for my phone. I also turn animations down to .5 in dev options, everytime I flash stock...makes it much quicker. I also know with stock, it's pretty much all optimized code for our phone...AOSP based miss a bunch of proprietary code which I think takes out some of the potential of this phone. Wish every company was like 1+, dev friendly.
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1) proximity sensor works great in CM13 as well, it's just turned off by default
Also, lockscreen in cm13 is faster than stock (less touch/swipe) and nothing of what you described (like app opening in pocket or similar) can happen because you have proximity sensor AND you must input the passcode before doing anything.
2) Double tap to sleep and double tap to wake work perfectly fine both in stock and cm13, no difference to me.
3) Data/service signal is exactly the same, works great both with cm13 and stock. Maybe you had older modem/baseband when you tried cm?
4) If you get a call in cm13 and want to let it ring while using the phone you can simply press home button and it'll return to home screen like any other app (leaving the call in the background).
5) Stock roms are quite laggy (except for genisys that is decent and imperium which is very good) but CM13 is noticeably faster
6) Proprietary code has an impact almost only on camera (no manual mode and slightly lower "auto" camera quality) and audio.
This is not meant to criticize stock roms (I have used imperium for months and I still switch to it when i travel and want amazing manual pictures). I was just saying that not all of your points were very accurate.

marn3us said:
1) proximity sensor works great in CM13 as well, it's just turned off by default
Also, lockscreen in cm13 is faster than stock (less touch/swipe) and nothing of what you described (like app opening in pocket or similar) can happen because you have proximity sensor AND you must input the passcode before doing anything.
2) Double tap to sleep and double tap to wake work perfectly fine both in stock and cm13, no difference to me.
3) Data/service signal is exactly the same, works great both with cm13 and stock. Maybe you had older modem/baseband when you tried cm?
4) If you get a call in cm13 and want to let it ring while using the phone you can simply press home button and it'll return to home screen like any other app (leaving the call in the background).
5) Stock roms are quite laggy (except for genisys that is decent and imperium which is very good) but CM13 is noticeably faster
6) Proprietary code has an impact almost only on camera (no manual mode and slightly lower "auto" camera quality) and audio.
This is not meant to criticize stock roms (I have used imperium for months and I still switch to it when i travel and want amazing manual pictures). I was just saying that not all of your points were very accurate.
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Ok. Your phone is your phone. And passcode? When did I say I used one?
Everything you just 'defended' non-stock for, I disagree 100%. I made my points for a reason.
For my phone, what I said was accurate. If stock doesn't work for you like that then you got a defunct phone.

theslam08 said:
Ok. Your phone is your phone. And passcode? When did I say I used one?
Everything you just 'defended' non-stock for, I disagree 100%. I made my points for a reason.
For my phone, what I said was accurate. If stock doesn't work for you like that then you got a defunct phone.
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LOL, passcodes were invented for a reason
You look like a guy who doesn't pay much attention while reading other's posts so please stop posting here, we were trying to help the OP get *CORRECT* information to base his decision upon.
I said that both stock and CM13 work FLAWLESSLY on my phone and that CM13 does NOT have all those problems you invented. Thus, if your phone had those problems and mine does not, it is YOUR phone the "defunct" one, not mine (or you just made mistakes when flashing, which is more likely).
Let's not continue this discussion and focus on helping the OP please

Please this discussion need to be more detailed for app and settings that have this to roms cm and stock based with port features. in the end this is the reason for root or unlock our phone to get mor function and performance.

Cm13
1) nav bar 2 button for edit (menu-search)
2) no sound button on toggle panel (sound vibration silent)
3) double tap screen of only on status bar
4) theme yes
5) advanced reboot yes
6) ambient display yes
7) supersu on developer setting yes
8) lock screen only to buttons (phone-camera)
9) lock screen weather no
10) lock screen weather animation no
11) hide app no
12) one hand mode no
13) dualwindows no
14) fm radio no
15) file manager does not recognize usb otg
16) you can add other that I are not listed here
Sock based rom
1) nav bar 3 button for edit (capture+ Qslide-Dual windows)
2) sound button on toggle panel (sound vibration silent) yes
3) double tap screen of any where
4) theme yes
5) advanced reboot no
6) ambient display no
7) supersu on developer setting no
8) lock screen five buttons
9) lock screen weather no
10) lock screen weather animation no
11) hide app yes
12) one hand mode yes
13) dualwindows yes
14) fm radio yes
15) file manager recognize usb otg
16) you can add other that I are not listed here

The biggest points for stock IMO:
One handed mode
Better camera quality and manual mode, the LG camera app really good takes fullest advantage of its hardware.
As for better sound quality, when I was using imperium Viper4android was included and CM includes AudioFX.
It might come down to better quality earphones.

CM 14 it´s out???
http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/lg-g4-cm14-cyanogenmod-14-nougat-7-0-rom/

I have only run stock so far since there is no root for marshmallow which my phone had out of the box when I got it a month ago. It's an h812 Canadian variant which is good in one way... absolutely nothing preinstalled by my carrier (Koodo). A couple apps from LG, so almost no bloatware. I can't complain about the stock rom other than certain things that are annoying that aren't there on most custom AOSP or cm Roms (toggling sync on or off brings up a big read me that I have to agree to) and automatic prevention of hearing loss by always dropping my volume down.
I still prefer cm13 based like my moto x 2014 is running but I don't know if I'll ever have that option, or even want to since the camera is one of the few major improvements from my old phone.
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Also to add...cm13 on my moto x and the other day helping my friend survey his property in the wilderness, very little reception and putting my sim card back in the moto x got me enough reception to run the tinder app, Facebook and YouTube which refused to load on the g4.
Not saying it's because of cm but the moto x was better despite having cm.
And the moto x is now my music player and the quality sounds better even on cm compared to stock g4 which gives me more reason to be able to try cm on the g4 since I don't use it for music as much right now anyway.

I like stock LG ui and with Genesis theme (UX 5) it's just marvellous

love stock for camera and stability. i would go AOSP if no more updates were avaiblefor my phone and the AOSP would make run better then i would.. iin my opinion AOSP for phones that arent no longer supported of end up in a rom that has bugs