[Idol 3]No kernel source released yet - Onetouch Idol 3 General

I looked around Internet, and failed to find kernel source for Idol 3. So last week I sent an email to [email protected], using the standard template to request kernel source, quoting GPL. I never get any reply. I can only assume Alcatel/TCL doesn't intend to release the kernel source of Idol 3 any time soon. And this is the explanation why we see pretty much no development here at all.

The phones been out for only 3 weeks now. Don't get your pantries in a twist and have some patience. There's another thread about this and its been determined it will be at least 2 months or more before the release. So have some coffee, decaf, and relax.
Sent from my Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 using Tapatalk

Not sure if this will help, but alcatel has their source files here;
http://sourceforge.net/projects/alcatel/files/

Moscow Desire said:
Not sure if this will help, but alcatel has their source files here;
http://sourceforge.net/projects/alcatel/files/
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Yes, I know. But there is no idol 3 there.

The first question is does alcatel have decent support for their devices? I emailed support today and asked why source has yet to be posted. Ill give it until the end of july before i sell this device. I must have root for adblocking .

fix-this! said:
The first question is does alcatel have decent support for their devices? I emailed support today and asked why source has yet to be posted. Ill give it until the end of july before i sell this device. I must have root for adblocking .
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For browsing you can use this Chromium browser with built-in ad blocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-nochromo-wild-browser-appears-t3130776

Heres the response i recieved via email from alcatel regaurding when 5.1 was coming or when source would be released.
Dear Mark, Thank you for contacting ALCATEL ONETOUCH Support. There is no plans for idol 3 at this time. Please check back later.
Best Regards,
Brian
ALCATEL ONETOUCH Support
Customer Care Center Hotline:
USA: (855)368-0829 | CANADA: (888)844-60
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If true this phone goes up for sale.

fix-this! said:
Heres the response i recieved via email from alcatel regaurding when 5.1 was coming or when source would be released.
Dear Mark, Thank you for contacting ALCATEL ONETOUCH Support. There is no plans for idol 3 at this time. Please check back later.
Best Regards,
Brian
ALCATEL ONETOUCH Support
Customer Care Center Hotline:
USA: (855)368-0829 | CANADA: (888)844-60
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If true this phone goes up for sale.
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I'll be returning mine as well if this is true.

fix-this! said:
The first question is does alcatel have decent support for their devices? I emailed support today and asked why source has yet to be posted. Ill give it until the end of july before i sell this device. I must have root for adblocking .
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AdGuard works just fine without root.

famewolf said:
AdGuard works just fine without root.
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Thanks but to bad the full version is $10. I still believe alcatel has to comply with google and post source soon. Thats the only chance we have at twrp. Is there a reconized alcatel dev we can recruit to see if they can help us out?

fix-this! said:
Thanks but to bad the full version is $10. I still believe alcatel has to comply with google and post source soon. Thats the only chance we have at twrp. Is there a reconized alcatel dev we can recruit to see if they can help us out?
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Try reading the "get root" thread in q&a where alot related to this has already been discussed.

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-IMPORTANT UPDATE!- Petition to LEECO for source code release, now in change!

If developers have source code, they will make 100% functional roms. I try sending multiple times emails to LeEco asking for this, but the server always give me spam reply. Because of that I've created a thread in LeEco forum.
Please help doing a coment and voting in the poll.
This is the link to the thread: http://forum.le.com/in/index.php?threads/source-code-for-lemax2.14951/
Regards.
IMPORTANT UPDATE! Now we have a petition in change.org to do the max press possible to the brand. And the signs are for ALL the devices with Qualcomm processors.
Here it is!: https://www.change.org/p/leeco-letv...ents_action_panel_wrapper&utm_medium=copylink
great specs but the development is not so good. if they only release the sources.
Someone mentioned that they are releasing sources in September.
sanke1 said:
Someone mentioned that they are releasing sources in September.
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Yup, in the official forum, but who knows if is true or a fake...?
I read that they are selling these phones at less than cost as a loss leader to sell people their content services. If so, I very much doubt they are interested in supporting the dev community as that makes it easier for people to get rid of their apps and services from the devices.
We need to achieve that fast!!
Did you get source code from Le? Why don't you share for us?
Anyone has updates about the source code questions?
I didn't find any update on the change.org site.
BTW' we need more votes!!
I sign!
More people need to sign!!
does anyone confirm source code release soon???
i signed.
Signed.
I got response but still no plan for releasing...
https://twitter.com/LeEcoGlobal/status/782992367280422913
I have not (yet) bought the phone b/c there will be no proper development in the absence of a source code release. I will probably go for the Axon 7 although I would like to have a bigger screen. (I will also not buy the Le Pro 3 although it is an interesting phone. Developer-unfriendly phone companies like LeEco are an absolute no-go for me. So sad ... )
Signed
Every tweet they post about their USA launch should get a comment about how their crappy source code policy is...
I doubt they will release the source code
Do not purchase le Max2. Most of the phones have finger print sensor issues.
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mikeysteele said:
Every tweet they post about their USA launch should get a comment about how their crappy source code policy is...
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Yup, do it guys. I will put it in my petition, that people send tweets with that.
Do you have new news about letv's codes? Why didn't share with us about it?
Maybe the US launch change something I really like the phone my fingerprint has no issue except some times unresponsive but I only had it for a month LOL so fingers crossed
Maybe they'll release the source code and the worth of this phone will double

Huawei won't publish the kernel

Hi Guys,
yesterday i sent an email to Huawei if or when they release the kernel for our phone. I don't know if there is some other news but here's my mail.
CodeRR said:
Hi Guys,
yesterday i semt an email to Huawei if or when they release the kernel for our phone. I don't know if there is some other news but here's my mail.
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hi
nice they write huawei in an other way
greetz benji
LOL well spotted
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I guess that answers my own question. The Mate 9 is going back.
That decision is counter to the Written Offer that is stated within the phone itself, under Settings>About Phone>Legal Information>Open Source Licenses.
I've emailed Huawei two times using the email address provided in the above section and haven't received a response yet. I think they cannot legally proceed without publishing the kernel source.
The kernel source is even listed in the written offer text.
So they're breaking the GNU GPL. Nice...
@hondajohn88 @ante0
Your arguments are in my opinion very strong. I'll give them a call in the next days! Updates coming.
Edit: I've send them a new mail with the screenshot provided by @hondajohn88. Updates will follow.
CodeRR said:
Hi Guys,
yesterday i sent an email to Huawei if or when they release the kernel for our phone. I don't know if there is some other news but here's my mail.
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The csr spelled Huawei wrong, why would anyone think they know anything that's going on ?
CodeRR said:
@hondajohn88 @ante0
Your arguments are in my opinion very strong. I'll give them a call in the next days! Updates coming.
Edit: I've send them a new mail with the screenshot provided by @hondajohn88. Updates will follow.
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It could just be that they won't publish it on their site. But you should still be able to request it and they must comply. Unless they're doing a Xiaomi and just delay it for eternity.
So I got back mail from Huawei.
I think he's trying to tell me that every kernel is the same from the source, but I quite don't understand this sentence...
CodeRR said:
So I got back mail from Huawei.
I think he's trying to tell me that every kernel is the same from the source, but I quite don't understand this sentence...
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Unfortunately, but this is biggest problem of brand-companies. Every department knows only about self. Every region does not know what HQ is doing. If HQ told that this file must be placed on regional site, regional-IT will do it. But they never will ask this file from HQ first.
I have worked out the confusion here. The Huawei rep is believing the OP is after the kernel as in the built kernel included in the software not the source code. Try re-phrasing the email and include the words source code
If someone speaks Chinese they should send an email requesting the kernel source code from Huawei of China.
They are forced to release the kernel source code by Agreement with Google.
BUT Huawei doesn't release it unless it's being requested, but THEY MUST if they got request for it
LastStandingDroid said:
They are forced to release the kernel source code by Agreement with Google.
BUT Huawei doesn't release it unless it's being requested, but THEY MUST if they got request for it
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I requested it a couple of weeks ago, still no answer from them.
Going to send a new email now.
This is my exact wording, which should be enough. Maybe I should change 'request' to 'demand... or else'.
"I would hereby like to request the Linux Kernel source code (including modifications) for my Huawei Mate 9 (MHA, Android 7.0, EMUI 5.0) in accordance with the GNU General Public License v2 section 2.
A download link is fine.
The current "download" link on your site simply links to a readme.txt file which tells me to email you to request the source code."
Edit: And sent. Included full model now too (MHA-L29C432). But I will probably not get an answer.
Heh. Excellent.
At least they have to answer some direct questions.
We want sources, no answers.
Has anyone tried emailing Google directly stating that Huawei is failing to abide by GNU General Public License v2 section 2 and see if they can assist?
Just trying to think outside the box...
Crazypinoy9 said:
Has anyone tried emailing Google directly stating that Huawei is failing to abide by GNU General Public License v2 section 2 and see if they can assist?
Just trying to think outside the box...
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They are =working on it.
How much they work on it is another story. Maybe their upload speed is 10kb/s idk
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If not release in next month I'm switching phones... this is the whole point of android for me.
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What do you think about your phone? Here comes a survey from Honor

Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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So far good but im music lover and like to snap photos, honor is good taking pictures but it sucks audio loud speaker specially watching videos on YouTube ?????
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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Why should any body on XDA do anything to help Honor ?
Honor made an aggreement with XDA saying that the Honor 8 was going to be a great phone for us when you know that what we want in a phone is updates and prompt response to releasing kernel source code.
You guys have done neither.
I'm running my Honor 8 on EMUI 5 with it's stock 380 update.
This update is terrible.
It's buggy and the battery life is terrible.
We have been asking for you to release kernel source code for months now and have received no answer.
Were stuck on an outdated version of EMUI 5.
You have released EMUI 5.1 but won't give it to us.
It's now April and were stuck on January security patch.
Honor you do your bit and then you can ask us to help you.
John
If you looking on XDA then you must have read just how unhappy people are.
You must have read the ROM's and kernel's thread and must have read how close we are in getting a fully working Lineage 14.1 and must have read how if you released your EMUI 5 kernel source code.
If you reading all this why are you not helping ?
@op that survey has nothing to do with the Honor 8. Stop spamming and get to the real matter as others have advised, we need quicker turn around for updates and Hotfixes be it Honor/Huawei or Google Hotfixes. Kernel source CODE is badly needed ASAP we need at least a engineer from Honor to help out in the Freedom of building Roms which install and run properly..
All in all its a great phone but socks like many Honor / Huawei devices for support...
Nyssa1104 said:
@op that survey has nothing to do with the Honor 8. Stop spamming and get to the real matter as others have advised, we need quicker turn around for updates and Hotfixes be it Honor/Huawei or Google Hotfixes. Kernel source CODE is badly needed ASAP we need at least a engineer from Honor to help out in the Freedom of building Roms which install and run properly..
All in all its a great phone but socks like many Honor / Huawei devices for support...
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Seems like huawei are in race releasing new devices rather maintaining an updates for their devices.
I think now they're only cared about how much of their devices sale's.
faizalotai said:
Seems like huawei are in race releasing new devices rather maintaining an updates for their devices.
I think now they're only cared about how much of their devices sale's.
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Totally agree with you there..
Damn shame as I do like the device just wished Rooting and mods were fare easier that what they are at the moment.. Had my device from Dec 2016 and we're at April 2017 and no changes from Honor to date..
faizalotai said:
Seems like huawei are in race releasing new devices rather maintaining an updates for their devices.
I think now they're only cared about how much of their devices sale's.
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That's exactly what's going on.
All these manufacturers want is to sell phones.
If they just took a step back and looked at what Google do different that sell so many phones.
Release source code and updates promptly
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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This: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71815504&postcount=3
Start making good on your promises and maybe you'll get some help. It would be one thing if Honor had never promised anything, then it would just be an unfortunate delay. The problem is that Honor said that certain things would happen and they have never happened.
Nyssa1104 said:
Totally agree with you there..
Damn shame as I do like the device just wished Rooting and mods were fare easier that what they are at the moment.. Had my device from Dec 2016 and we're at April 2017 and no changes from Honor to date..
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Doing the path of Xiaomi. They went from n.1 seller in China to down the table. Only pleasing the stockholders is a short term vision. They had probably the lowest customer retention in the last years.
Rox_Honor said:
Hey all,
What do you think about your phone? Below is an online survey from honor team to get more insights on your needs. :highfive:
Survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/6R3QT58
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@Rox_Honor
At least take the time to read and reply to these messages.
You posted on here yesterday asking us to do something for you guys.
Least you could do is take the time to reply.
Ur the Honor rep
johnhux7 said:
@Rox_Honor
At least take the time to read and reply to these messages.
You posted on here yesterday asking us to do something for you guys.
Least you could do is take the time to reply.
Ur the Honor rep
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Nope, one way communication.
Whatever, honor and Huawei don't actually care about the north American market other than sales.
Well, that's fine. We'll show them the same dedication by simply not buying anymore Huawei or honor devices.
Lots of other great manufacturers out there making excellent devices, and actually stick to their promises.

The Huawei partnership with XDA - Good news afterall??

Hii to all Huawei 8 owners,
Maybe some good news afterall, but maybe .. we will see
This is the info I got today and I said it I will report it back to all of you guys...
This is it what I have got
Just did copy paste from my inbox and attached a picture so that you can see that this is real messege sent to me
Re: Regarding the XDA community and Honor 8 partnership
Hi there,
I can give you an explanation for everything. Can you please post it so everyone can see? Here it is:
Quote:
Hi everyone! I just wanted to give you an update on Honor and the release of their kernel source, as well as our efforts to encourage development on Honor devices on XDA.
We started working with them in August 2016. One of the stipulations of our partnership was that they make kernel source available, to encourage development.
By October, they had released kernel source for the Honor 8. As a result, we had healthy development with early builds of CyanogenMod (now LineageOS, of course), as well as RR, working TWRP, and more. This was thanks in large part to a small team of Honor developers we assembled, comprised of @surdu_petru, @XePeleato, and @hackslash. This team also submitted to me a request to Honor to fill in some missing spots in their kernel source release, specifically the Trustzone driver, and precompiled libraries compatible with AOSP. Around that time, our partnership with Honor was ending.
Since early 2017, all kernel source has disappeared from Huawei's website, much to our disappointment, and yours. We are in contact with Honor, and soon to renew our agreement, and they claim that kernel source will be back online by the end of May. Since Huawei is such a big company and things are very slow, it might take longer than that. Also, we're not sure if they will re-release the MM kernel source, or that for Nougat. We are awaiting their answer but we are heavily pushing them to do what the community wants.
We made significant progress with Honor in 2H 2016 thanks to our agreement, and we hope that starting in June, we will resume this progress with the goal of opening up Honor devices, including the new Honor 8 Pro, so that developers have what they need and users can enjoy customization of their devices.
Please PM me anytime with any questions or concerns.
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Originally Posted by brljak83
Hii
I have been reading about Honor 8 here on XDA since I got the phone
We all Honor 8 users are very satisfide with the phone it self
But a big number of us are just disappointed with the
Huawei Honor 8 agreement between Huawei and XDA community
to give us not just better support but also the source code..
I am here not as a developer couse I am not one
I am here couse I want to speak in the name of
all Honor 8 users ( allmost all of us are disappointed )
with someone from the XDA community
I want that someone form the XDA community who can and is willing to
give me ( over the mail ) some answer or to all of us in the forum of Honor 8
if Huawei and XDA community agreement is just some kind of a lie..
And if not when will we get what is promised to us.. give us some timeline or something..
Please give us something, or do something for what is promised to us
Couse many Honor 8 users are thinking that this is just some sort of a lie
And they are very disappointed and thinking that never will be anything happening
I thing they are so much disappointed that they lost evan the will to ask you on XDA community and are thinking that it is just some sort of a lie
for what is said and promised.. but I am one of the optimist and I am still saying that
the best is yet to come
Hope for some answer and that we still will be getting the support that is promised
And I am hoping not to get disappointed too like many already are
Please give me as soon as possible some answer from either Huawei ( by contacting them as XDA community becouse of the agreement you guys had made for us ) or either some answer just
from the XDA community if you happen to know anything about the things that are promised
by that agreement if and when they will happen..
Thanks for taking your time and reading this
Best regards
Brljak83
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RedMagic 5G Series UNOFFICIAL Support

Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
Hello need rom global redmagic 5g please
gti57 said:
Hello need rom global redmagic 5g please
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The ROM is on its way. Probably will post before Friday ends.
Hello there,
I have a few things
Firstly when will there be a update as there are many bugs on the device
Secondly do you guys plan to support this device in the long term.
Sent from my NX659J using Tapatalk
JerryYin said:
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
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Do you know what include the global Update? too many things doesn't works!!
Best regards
JerryYin said:
The ROM is on its way. Probably will post before Friday ends.
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Any chance this update will include the ability to use an alternate launcher (eg. Nova Launcher)?
About the Pulse version
JerryYin said:
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
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I heard that the Pulse version used to have problems like flickering and shut downs because of the incompatibility between the rom and its hardware (RAM and storage). I want to ask if it's fixed in the new batch of stock that have just arrived and what version of the rom it's on. Thank you.
@Veroxious
Hi, as a pulse owner I can answer your question.
I have the EU version and am on 4.05 and don't have the problems your mentioning here.
It's solid and the only "problems" I have are the few missing software parts like the battery stats / percentage and the disappearing status bar.
Other then that I don't have any problems and I use my phone a lot (during the day for work (80%) and private (20%) and after work I play some games, watch YouTube etc...
@JerryYin please allow use of alternate launchers like Nova and release kernel sources so development can be better
@JerryYin
When will be the ota update for my version ? My current version is NX659J_ENCommon_v4.05
Thnak you
lanoblesse said:
@JerryYin
When will be the ota update for my version ? My current version is NX659J_ENCommon_v4.05
Thnak you
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Probably by Friday
VZTech said:
Probably by Friday
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He was answering for the NA version of the phone, and the european version isn't the same, that's why I prefer to hear his own answer
But thank you for answering : )
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Jerry
lanoblesse said:
He was answering for the NA version of the phone, and the european version isn't the same, that's why I prefer to hear his own answer
But thank you for answering : )
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He says NA and European are the same rom.
Crossing fingers for a Software Update
VZTech said:
Probably by Friday
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The issue I have most with my new RedMagic 5G is that I simply can't customize the launcher. I've tried to install multiple launchers like Nova, Microsoft, Apex, etc...and the phone continues to default back to the Nubia Launcher. I had the previous RedMagic 3S and enjoyed the phone more than my 5G simply cuz I could customize my software.
I'm hoping that a new update will come out by this Friday. I just received my phone from the NA website about a week ago and my build number seems to be even older than yours. BUILD NUMBER: NX659J_ENCommon_V3.08
neo9596 said:
Do you know what include the global Update? too many things doesn't works!!
Best regards
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Some bug fix and new features will comes with the new security patch
enzone17 said:
The issue I have most with my new RedMagic 5G is that I simply can't customize the launcher. I've tried to install multiple launchers like Nova, Microsoft, Apex, etc...and the phone continues to default back to the Nubia Launcher. I had the previous RedMagic 3S and enjoyed the phone more than my 5G simply cuz I could customize my software.
I'm hoping that a new update will come out by this Friday. I just received my phone from the NA website about a week ago and my build number seems to be even older than yours. BUILD NUMBER: NX659J_ENCommon_V3.08
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It will add in future updates.
VZTech said:
Probably by Friday
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Today is Friday :fingers-crossed: And probably not but definitely :angel:
Global ROMs have arrived guys!
Check the ROM/DEV section
@JerryYin I would like to ask about Screen projection function,
I would like to do screen projection to PC but when I choose PC , it open QR Code scan and suggest to download Lebo screen projection client, so where can I download this program?
Regards

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