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I know we have a thread to discuss source code, but I wanted to make a separate thread to solely address and discuss the queries and requests put in place to honor through @svetius.
I agree with @hackslash that it will be nice to have group of developers who are familiar with Kirin devices and are in good position to make appropriate requests.
I will like for this thread to remain solely about the requests and queries and nothing else. I will be updating as I go with @svetius communication outcomes, as he provides it.
Discussion thus far:
svetius said:
Hey Guys,
Just so you know, I have a direct line at Honor and am able to make requests as it relates to releasing sources and specific documentation. I am not a developer myself, but you guys can feel free to make requests here and I'll bring it back to Honor. It's really important that we get to the point where custom ROM development and full modification is possible on the Honor 8!
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anks329 said:
Svetius, here's what I think we would need, @XePeleato or anyone else, please chime in also!
working kernel code - kinda have this XePeleato's work
device tree
full firmware images (for backup/restore use)
proprietary vendor files
documentation on the SoC
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XePeleato said:
Cool, I'd love to talk to them personally, but since that doesn't look possible, I'd like to ask for some things (It feels like Christmas lol)
Specific documentation (Code snippets, a document... you know) about:
Their OpenGL implementationThe Hi110X communications IC (Integrated Circuit)The Audio systemThe Camera, other companies with the same sensor released their drivers source so it isn't Top SecretThe SePolicy
That would be a good starting point and in my opinion it's pretty reasonable.
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anks329 said:
My thought was, if we're asking, might as well go all out and get something like what OnePlus released for the 3. A full working device tree, kernel, etc.... http://www.xda-developers.com/onepl...-3-device-trees-and-kernel-sources-available/
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hackslash said:
One Plus did went forward and released proprietary blobs for Dash charging that were supported on AOSP based ROMs. If Huawei don't want to release source codes for their OpenGL, Hi110x, composer, camera, etc implementations, then at least proprietary blobs free from EMUI crap that work with AOSP (this is the least I want; source code is always good as it means we don't have to depend on Huawei if things break or if we want to develop future versions of Android which if aren't released officially by Huawei).
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hackslash said:
The most important things we need are:
Proper documentation about the SoC and if possible, a Board Support Package for Kirin which will greatly boost development.
Proprietary blobs which don't include EMUI crap and Huawei's mistakes.
We already have the kernel source which thanks to Huawei was zipped in a non-case sensitive OS and the stock firmware images to extract vendor blobs (which don't work well with AOSP/CM).
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hackslash said:
I guess I was dreaming way too much. I'm expecting too much from someone who has delivered nothing in the past. We'll keep it simple then. Honor, please release Kirin documentation, schematics and Board Support Package.
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#1
svetius said:
Here is my most recent email to them:
There is a thread going on here about what the community needs for development on Kirin:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hono...-code-t3456225
As you can see, here are some of the requirements:
1. Proper documentation on the SOC
2. Proprietary blobs
3. Board schematics
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Additionally, I've asked for them to fix the bootloader unlock function so we can get it to work on Honor 8.
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svetius said:
Guys,
I just got the following from Honor, and I don't know what it means and could use some help dissecting it and refining my requests to them.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw3YYHFxKQxVaDItY0ZCSzMzT2xzRWl6T0t3ZW90azVvaEJF
@anks329 @XePeleato @hackslash @jerryhou85 @Houge_Langley @mgbotoe @DigiGoon
Also, Honor says bootloader unlock tool will work by end of month.
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Thanks for creating this thread. Hope we get some quick responses now
anks329 said:
Thanks for creating this thread. Hope we get some quick responses now
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I think it will be nice to organize it per what is attainable and should be released to xda per the partnership we have going on. A kernel source is nice, but more is needed.
mgbotoe said:
I think it will be nice to organize it per what is attainable and should be released to xda per the partnership we have going on. A kernel source is nice, but more is needed.
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Indeed, but I don't think that linking Honor to this or other thread is the best way to catch their attention. In my opinion, We should send them precise and concrete requests, maybe with a little description, to be more specific or maybe to explain why is it necessary.
This thread is a great starting point, everyone that wants to get involved could send their requests and whenever We have all of them, We can discuss and finally, send them. It's just an idea.
XePeleato said:
Indeed, but I don't think that linking Honor to this or other thread is the best way to catch their attention. In my opinion, We should send them precise and concrete requests, maybe with a little description, to be more specific or maybe to explain why is it necessary.
This thread is a great starting point, everyone that wants to get involved could send their requests and whenever We have all of them, We can discuss and finally, send them. It's just an idea.
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Currently, per the last update i put up, an email was already sent out in regard to:
1. Proper documentation on the SOC
2. Proprietary blobs
3. Board schematics
mgbotoe said:
Currently, per the last update i put up, an email was already sent out in regard to:
1. Proper documentation on the SOC
2. Proprietary blobs
3. Board schematics
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About the documentation of the SoC, the data sheet is already out, and almost everything is explained, so I don't know what will they send. (If you mean documentation about the inner ICs like the audio amplificator, communications, etc... Then it's a good choice)
About the blobs, those can be found inside emui and are already posted here.
About the board schematics, the schematics can be useful if you are an electrical engineer and want to hook up your Jtag cable, another useful application can be to figure out the GPIOs, but that isn't really going to help someone who wants to build a rom.
Please understand that this isn't a rant, I appreciate what you guys are doing in order to help us, but the communication with Honor is crucial.
I think another request that would attract people to play with their Honor 8 is the warranty void upon rooting.
If possible, please ask them to not void our device's warranty upon rooting it.
UPDATE: Agreed with @XePeleato, we don't need schematics if we are building a ROM, schematics are for those who wants to make it modular (LOL). TBH no schematics or design of the PCB is required if we just want to build ROMs.
XePeleato said:
About the documentation of the SoC, the data sheet is already out, and almost everything is explained, so I don't know what will they send. (If you mean documentation about the inner ICs like the audio amplificator, communications, etc... Then it's a good choice)
About the blobs, those can be found inside emui and are already posted here.
About the board schematics, the schematics can be useful if you are an electrical engineer and want to hook up your Jtag cable, another useful application can be to figure out the GPIOs, but that isn't really going to help someone who wants to build a rom.
Please understand that this isn't a rant, I appreciate what you guys are doing in order to help us, but the communication with Honor is crucial.
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For the SoC, I was thinking more in line with what you have stated, amplificator, communications, and things of that matter...I think it will be a good addition personally.
For the blobs, thank you for that inside info! So to understand, those are things we can grab from xda already from previous devices?
And ya, I can definently get your point about the board schematics.
Definitely sitting down and figuring out what is what will be a good start up and gives us a plausible standpoint to argue for the appropriate sources.
It seems you are familiar with emui? What are things that you feel we need personally?
My personal grip right now is the simple things...given the situation i feel having a stable and confirmed way for unlocking bootloader is a must. Additionally, having the firmware available for the u.s models should be a must.
It is not as though it was a simple device released in the wild and xda users decided to try their luck, no. Xda advertised for them...they conversed with them, for them to refuse to unlock users bootloaders is not acceptable.
Company wont release schematics for their board because Chinese fake manufacturers could copy it. I work for Asus and I'm repairing Notebook MB and ZenPads /eeePads motherboards and there's your PC IP and time with Asus logo watermark on schematics so you can't just screen it and post it somewhere. I agree with @mgbotoe that we need stock firmwares and easy way to unlock bootloader first (Edit: easy way like fastboot oem unlock and that's it, waiting for a code from Huawei to unlock can take some time but still hey we can at least unlock it and not to try work around it like for example on S7).
The Board Support Package is a must if we want true custom ROMs for our device. The Board Support Package is the proprietary source code the SoC vendor (HiSilicon) gives to the manufacturer (Huawei, in this case). The manufacturer tweaks the code to implement their stuff and packs those stuff in libraries. Huawei can open source some portion (if not all , HiSilicon won't allow it) of this BSP and this could really boost development. Documentations on how Huawei implements stuff is helpful and if coupled with Board Support Package, this could turn the tables for the development scene for Kirin devices.
I will do my best to give a general summation at chances given.
So the MUST thus far:
Board Support Package?
Official Firmware for all Models provided by Honor, (Specially U.S)?
Official Unlock of the bootloader through Honor, not a third party?
In the spirit of the partnership, and the honor hub...I think it doesn't hurt to push our luck haha
mgbotoe said:
For the SoC, I was thinking more in line with what you have stated, amplificator, communications, and things of that matter...I think it will be a good addition personally.
For the blobs, thank you for that inside info! So to understand, those are things we can grab from xda already from previous devices?
And ya, I can definently get your point about the board schematics.
Definitely sitting down and figuring out what is what will be a good start up and gives us a plausible standpoint to argue for the appropriate sources.
It seems you are familiar with emui? What are things that you feel we need personally?
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The blobs can be extracted from the stock rom, that is already posted here, and some of them are suitable for rom development, but some aren't, because some have missing dependencies that are available just in EMUI. For example, in order to enable the modem in the P8 Lite/Honor 4C, We needed to include a Java class that was reversed from the C++ libraries, the same happens with hardware graphic acceleration (We are currently working on it) because it needs some pieces of code, that are proprietary and not compatible with AOSP/CM.
I have written some basic documentation about the experience, and it might be useful to future developers.
About what I think it's necessary, at the OP I made a brief enumeration, and I still think it's reasonable.
EDIT: Saw your last post, the BSP would be more than enough.
mgbotoe said:
I will do my best to give a general summation at chances given.
So the MUST thus far:
Board Support Package?
Official Firmware for all Models provided by Honor, (Specially U.S)?
Official Unlock of the bootloader through Honor, not a third party?
In the spirit of the partnership, and the honor hub...I think it doesn't hurt to push our luck haha
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Wait a minute, hold on. You can't unlock the bootloader through Honor? As it has been for all Huawei devices, you have to go here: https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin.php?id=unlock&mod=detail and sign in with a phone account or an email account that has been used on an EMUI device for more than 15 days. I have requested 2 bootloader unlock codes from Huawei in the past and had no problems whatsoever. The unlock code is also provided immediately.
Official firmwares are only needed to restore to stock ROM if something bad happens. If you're rooted you can always use dd to extract all images manually from a running device.
hackslash said:
Wait a minute, hold on. You can't unlock the bootloader through Honor? As it has been for all Huawei devices, you have to go here: https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin.php?id=unlock&mod=detail and sign in with a phone account or an email account that has been used on an EMUI device for more than 15 days. I have requested 2 bootloader unlock codes from Huawei in the past and had no problems whatsoever. The unlock code is also provided immediately.
Official firmwares are only needed to restore to stock ROM if something bad happens. If you're rooted you can always use dd to extract all images manually from a running device.
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See that's the thing... It doesn't work and I have ran it by couple of xder with the device where the option for honor 8 and the setup just does not go through. I brought it to honor attention and they sent me in a lot of circle just to tell me they do not support the unlocks of honor 8. Has it changed since? I do not know but third parties has been the option to unlock since last I was active in the forum. As for the firmware, I feel having a direct availability of it from honor will be nice in the spirit of the partnership and the hub.
If the user mess up process of rooting it will be nice to have, I feel it slowed a lot of people down initially and it should have been provided from the getko
I was able to unlock my phone through the Chinese version of the website (using google translator). The US site would just redirect back to the main page and not let you enter your information to unlock the phone. So it works, just needs to be a better process.
anks329 said:
I was able to unlock my phone through the Chinese version of the website (using google translator). The US site would just redirect back to the main page and not let you enter your information to unlock the phone. So it works, just needs to be a better process.
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Will have to log back in my account on the chinese main and give it another shot. Otherwise was too much hoopla for me to get it unlocked with a direct unlocked codes.
If nothing works, we have to pay to DCUnlocker then. As they support unlocking Honor 8's bootloader.
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mgbotoe said:
I will do my best to give a general summation at chances given.
So the MUST thus far:
Board Support Package?
Official Firmware for all Models provided by Honor, (Specially U.S)?
Official Unlock of the bootloader through Honor, not a third party?
In the spirit of the partnership, and the honor hub...I think it doesn't hurt to push our luck haha
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So far there is only one, the Firmware (US model)
I wonder if @svetius ever got a response
Media link: http://www.androidcentral.com/honor-wants-few-brave-americans-beta-test-its-buggiest-software
Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/notes/1000420460091526/Join Honor Beta/1003634449770127/
Online application form: http://eepurl.com/cIELCb
Good luck and Enjoy!
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Media link: http://www.androidcentral.com/honor-wants-few-brave-americans-beta-test-its-buggiest-software
Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/notes/1000420460091526/Join Honor Beta/1003634449770127/
Online application form: http://eepurl.com/cIELCb
Good luck and Enjoy!
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This is really good news.
Does this mean that we are starting to get listed to.
Let's hope it's not just Honor USA that are doing this
johnhux7 said:
This is really good news.
Does this mean that we are starting to get listed to.
Let's hope it's not just Honor USA that are doing this
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I was in the Honor 5X USA beta test group for some time when the phone was announced in the states. I would say consumers are always listened to by Huawei. I reported bugs and complaints during the time, and everything was fixed quickly thereafter. The team leaders really wanted to know every aspect of how I feel about their products. They chat with me and other testers through Google Hangout and through personal emails. But there always be some limited resources and dedicated time for the team to talk to so many customers. In reality, if you put yourself at the position of the company and the developers, it is almost impossible for the team to keep track of every post here, at least.
I think it is a good chance to exchange information with the Honor team by applying to the beta test team if you really care about the development of Honor phones and software. If you cannot join the beta test team, let us know on the forum, I'd be more than happy to forward your word to the Honor team to improve the products and services for the future releases if I get accepted as a tester for the Honor 8 product line. I hope they will be reaching out to people in a broader region, but if not, XDA is a good interconnecting region.
Cheers!
I applied, we'll see. I somehow made it into an online beta focus group for AXE products (which I despise) about a decade ago, I enjoy doing that type of thing.
Anyone else got this error?
"Too many subscribe attempts for this email address. Please try again in about 5 minutes. (#8189)"
fernandoarafat said:
Anyone else got this error?
"Too many subscribe attempts for this email address. Please try again in about 5 minutes. (#8189)"
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Yes.
Edit: Tried again after couple minutes and it worked.
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Yes.
Edit: Tried again after couple minutes and it worked.
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Ok. It worked for me too after trying again. But I have not received an email to confirm my address.
Hii to all Huawei 8 owners,
Maybe some good news afterall, but maybe .. we will see
This is the info I got today and I said it I will report it back to all of you guys...
This is it what I have got
Just did copy paste from my inbox and attached a picture so that you can see that this is real messege sent to me
Re: Regarding the XDA community and Honor 8 partnership
Hi there,
I can give you an explanation for everything. Can you please post it so everyone can see? Here it is:
Quote:
Hi everyone! I just wanted to give you an update on Honor and the release of their kernel source, as well as our efforts to encourage development on Honor devices on XDA.
We started working with them in August 2016. One of the stipulations of our partnership was that they make kernel source available, to encourage development.
By October, they had released kernel source for the Honor 8. As a result, we had healthy development with early builds of CyanogenMod (now LineageOS, of course), as well as RR, working TWRP, and more. This was thanks in large part to a small team of Honor developers we assembled, comprised of @surdu_petru, @XePeleato, and @hackslash. This team also submitted to me a request to Honor to fill in some missing spots in their kernel source release, specifically the Trustzone driver, and precompiled libraries compatible with AOSP. Around that time, our partnership with Honor was ending.
Since early 2017, all kernel source has disappeared from Huawei's website, much to our disappointment, and yours. We are in contact with Honor, and soon to renew our agreement, and they claim that kernel source will be back online by the end of May. Since Huawei is such a big company and things are very slow, it might take longer than that. Also, we're not sure if they will re-release the MM kernel source, or that for Nougat. We are awaiting their answer but we are heavily pushing them to do what the community wants.
We made significant progress with Honor in 2H 2016 thanks to our agreement, and we hope that starting in June, we will resume this progress with the goal of opening up Honor devices, including the new Honor 8 Pro, so that developers have what they need and users can enjoy customization of their devices.
Please PM me anytime with any questions or concerns.
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Originally Posted by brljak83
Hii
I have been reading about Honor 8 here on XDA since I got the phone
We all Honor 8 users are very satisfide with the phone it self
But a big number of us are just disappointed with the
Huawei Honor 8 agreement between Huawei and XDA community
to give us not just better support but also the source code..
I am here not as a developer couse I am not one
I am here couse I want to speak in the name of
all Honor 8 users ( allmost all of us are disappointed )
with someone from the XDA community
I want that someone form the XDA community who can and is willing to
give me ( over the mail ) some answer or to all of us in the forum of Honor 8
if Huawei and XDA community agreement is just some kind of a lie..
And if not when will we get what is promised to us.. give us some timeline or something..
Please give us something, or do something for what is promised to us
Couse many Honor 8 users are thinking that this is just some sort of a lie
And they are very disappointed and thinking that never will be anything happening
I thing they are so much disappointed that they lost evan the will to ask you on XDA community and are thinking that it is just some sort of a lie
for what is said and promised.. but I am one of the optimist and I am still saying that
the best is yet to come
Hope for some answer and that we still will be getting the support that is promised
And I am hoping not to get disappointed too like many already are
Please give me as soon as possible some answer from either Huawei ( by contacting them as XDA community becouse of the agreement you guys had made for us ) or either some answer just
from the XDA community if you happen to know anything about the things that are promised
by that agreement if and when they will happen..
Thanks for taking your time and reading this
Best regards
Brljak83
svetius
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I've had smoke blown up my ass many times. Same old song and dance.
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Hey guys, is there any news about oreo update for axon 7 ?? There is nothing official from ZTE
Can the beta testers leak the A2017U Oreo B12?
Leaking it is not that easy.
Most of the people that are in the Beta Tester Group haven't unlocked their bootloader before updating.
And since the Update Severs are not available right now (I'm on the G version, don't know right now if they've been shut down on the U also) can't just downgrade to N, unlock their Bootloader and Update back to Oreo to leak it.
There probably some people having an unlocked bootloader and the Oreo Beta installed, but it's unlikely that one of them would be willing enough to leak it.
it will get leaked eventually, some beta tester is just waiting confirmation from ZTE before they releasing it. Just hang on, if you can't then there are couple unofficial oreo rom available... but buggy.
anonymousogre
posted the following on reddit:
I was part of the Oreo Beta. AMA.
Proof:
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I wasn't prepared to do this until only after there was confirmation that ZTE wouldn't have the ban overturned,
but I don't think it really matters anymore. I won't post any additional screenshots, but you can ask me anything.
original link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/8gu24g/i_was_part_of_the_oreo_beta_ama/
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laikexpert said:
I was part of the Oreo Beta. AMA.
Proof:
I wasn't prepared to do this until only after there was confirmation that ZTE wouldn't have the ban overturned,
but I don't think it really matters anymore. I won't post any additional screenshots, but you can ask me anything.
original link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/8gu24g/i_was_part_of_the_oreo_beta_ama/
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First of all, please try to mention the author at the beginning of the post like "anonymousogre posted the following on reddit" to avoid confusion.
Now to the reddit post itself,
If anonymousogre really has the latest beta, it's certainly worh to keep an eye out for that. For now he only posted one screenshot and won't post any additional ones which i find weird since he himself said, and i quote:
"I wasn't prepared to do this until only after there was confirmation that ZTE wouldn't have the ban overturned, but I don't think it really matters anymore."
If he really thinks that, then whats stopping him from posting 1 or 2 more screenshots.
Thats why i will stay skeptical for now until there is more info about it.
Sent from my ZTE A2017G running V1.2.0B08 using XDA Labs
laikexpert said:
I was part of the Oreo Beta. AMA.
Proof:
I wasn't prepared to do this until only after there was confirmation that ZTE wouldn't have the ban overturned,
but I don't think it really matters anymore. I won't post any additional screenshots, but you can ask me anything.
original link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/8gu24g/i_was_part_of_the_oreo_beta_ama/
author: AnonymousOgre
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Dude, don't you dare start this again...
troy5890 said:
Dude, don't you dare start this again...
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Despite laikexpert not learning and being impatient, i would still suggest checking out that reddit thread
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Just had a chat with a ZTE rep. Sounds like they have just about as much info as we do. Transcript follows:
5/4/2018 Live Assistance
Welcome
Live Help
Clairen P.: “Thank you for contacting ZTE’s Chat customer service, we appreciate your business and value our relationship. At the end of this session you will receive a brief three question satisfaction survey on the support you received. Please take the time to provide your feedback on your experience today. Thank you.”
Me: Hi!
Clairen P.: Hi, Mark, this is Claire.
Clairen P.: I see you have a question about updates, correct?
Me: Hi Claire. Yes, I was hoping my Axon 7 would be receiving an update to Oreo. I know it was in Beta a few months ago, but it looks like the Beta program is closed and now the ZTE update servers are down
Me: I was just wondering if you could give me any information on what to expect!
Clairen P.: I see you are interested in the Oreo update for your Axon 7, and I apologize for the inconvenience.
Clairen P.: It's still in beta testing and we haven't been told when it will be release. I do apologize for your frustration.
Clairen P.: As far as the update servers go, we appreciate your concern, and we are currently working on a solution.
Me: Yes, it's very frustrating. And with the news about sanctions, ZTE being banned from selling in the USA, etc, I'm concerned we'll never see any more updates!
Clairen P.: I agree!
Clairen P.: I recommend you check out our Z Community forum, that would be where you would find out first. https://community.zteusa.com.
Me: Is there any way to be added to the beta program?
Clairen P.: I apologize, it has been closed for quite some time.
Me: I was a beta tester for Nougat, and I thought I'd be invited to join the Oreo program
Clairen P.: I don't know how they choose beta testers, I wish I could help you with that, Mark!
Clairen P.: That must be very frustrating for you.
Me: Yeah. I'm tempted to unlock the phone and install some unofficial software - but I don't want to lose my warranty!
Clairen P.: I agree with you on that! I wouldn't either!
Me: Do you have any idea when the official Oreo is coming?
Clairen P.: The Passport 2 Warranty is such a great deal! We haven't been told when the official Oreo is coming, we find out from
Z Community ourselves.
Me: But you're pretty sure we'll get it someday?
Clairen P.: I apologize for the inconvenience and the frustration you're experiencing, Mark. I don't know, we haven't been told.
Me: Ok. Thanks for talking with me, even if there's no news to share.
Clairen P.: My pleasure! Anything else I can help you with, Mark?
Me: Hope y'all are doing okay! I'm sure it's a confusing time to work for ZTE!
Clairen P.: At the end of the chat, I'd appreciate it if you would take a quick 3 question survey about your experience today. The survey will begin when you disconnect from our chat. Thank you!
Clairen P.: We're doing fine, and we're quite busy. It's pretty normal here.
Clairen P.: I hope we get a resolution soon!
Clairen P.: At the end of the chat, I'd appreciate it if you would take a quick 3 question survey about your experience today. The survey will begin when you disconnect from our chat. Thank you!
Me: Yep, no problem. Have a good one!
You have disconnected.
I think it's over about oreo
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houssemtouati said:
I think it's over about oreo
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I don't know about Oreo but I hope not cause at least the OTA servers work now cause I got the B35 firmware update from January I think.
P. S
I know the update is old but I kept putting of until the last minute and after the whole ZTE mess I thought I missed my chance to update.
I tried chatting with ZTE again today. No information whatsoever. They suggested checking the ZTE community forums because "sometimes info leaks there" but literally knew nothing else. I told them we were disappointed that we didn't receive the update while so many competitors' devices have, and that they couldn't even tell us if we would ever receive it. I also mentioned that I will be buying a new phone from someone who is not ZTE in the near future because of their lack of communication and updates, despite the fact that I love the Axon 7 and would like to use it longer.
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I tried chatting with ZTE again today. No information whatsoever. They suggested checking the ZTE community forums because "sometimes info leaks there" but literally knew nothing else. I told them we were disappointed that we didn't receive the update while so many competitors' devices have, and that they couldn't even tell us if we would ever receive it. I also mentioned that I will be buying a new phone from someone who is not ZTE in the near future because of their lack of communication and updates, despite the fact that I love the Axon 7 and would like to use it longer.
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I don't think they care too much about your disappointment after they were offline for like 4 months and their employees were fed by charity
Am I looking at this situation in an unrealistic way?
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I don't think they care too much about your disappointment after they were offline for like 4 months and their employees were fed by charity
Am I looking at this situation in an unrealistic way?
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Thanks for the input. Surely they don't want customers then, right.
Well one guy on reddit got some news from zte facebook group. Apparently we will get oreo
https://www.reddit.com/r/Axon7/comments/8ysg8p/oreo_confirmation_from_zte_fb_group_repost/
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Thanks for the input. Surely they don't want customers then, right.
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So they'll get customers if they make an update for a 2 year old device that everyone moved on from already?
Don't get me wrong. I have it, and I want the update. But the Axon 7 is probably less than 0.1% of their income. They have to deal with losing credibility on their connectivity business, then also keep going with their myriad of US carrier budget phones.
Honestly speaking, how many people cares about not getting updates on their phone after a year, let alone two? The average layman presses Ok when the update notification pops up, no questions asked. ZTE has been kind enough while they didn't have a ****storm ongoing. Now they are probably shorthanded, lost credibility and paid huge fines.
what's true is that an Oreo update would be good press for the (i hope) upcoming axon 9.
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The average layman presses Ok when the update notification pops up, no questions asked.
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what's true is that an Oreo update would be good press for the (i hope) upcoming axon 9.
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yes indeed it would be good press!
I don´t know about the situation in the US, but in European countries there is an increasing number of people, that care about latest security updates, which leads to the decision to buy devices that are more `reliable´ in this sense ...
It does also concern me now that I use my phone with personal plus work SIM.
Work is multinational and implementing administration for mobile devices, tied in with work Microsoft accounts. No mods for me. I'm ignoring it so far but a time will come when there will be questions asked of the Aus branch, but I must keep the phone compliant or start using the Nexus 5X I was given...... It's got no SD card slot, only 16Gb of storage, a smaller and crap screen and only 2Gb of RAM. Not keen to carry and keep two phones updated and charged for daily duties.
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So they'll get customers if they make an update for a 2 year old device that everyone moved on from already? .
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Yes, if you think in terms longer than 1-2 years that is how it works. Many of us won't buy LG devices anymore because they promised updates then cut them off short. I want 3 years out of a device. I take care of my phones so this isn't realistic. They cost as much as laptops now so I see no reason they shouldn't last as long.
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Don't get me wrong. I have it, and I want the update. But the Axon 7 is probably less than 0.1% of their income. They have to deal with losing credibility on their connectivity business, then also keep going with their myriad of US carrier budget phones.
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This isn't just about one phone it is about trusting them as a brand. They have no identity or customer base here (USA), so if they want to be strictly a low-end garbage brand, that's fine, I won't buy any more of their products. I don't think that's the case though. If they want to grow globally as a brand they need to have flagship-level products (think "halo" cars in that industry - they're expensive and don't sell in huge numbers but they build brand prestige) and need top-end support to go with their hardware. The Axon 7 2-year warranty was a start, their websites aren't as bad as some competitors, they've engaged in at least some dialog with fringe enthusiasts, and their online chat folks are friendly and efficient, although they've been unable to answer my questions a couple of times. They've obviously got some of us on board but the mobile phone market and other electronics spaces are crowded, so ZTE will have to continue to do better if they want to be big players outside of China.
I'm not expecting anything, but I am hopeful of some news soon, before my trigger finger gets itchy while I'm gawking at the Oneplus 6 or something.
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It does also concern me now that I use my phone with personal plus work SIM.
Work is multinational and implementing administration for mobile devices, tied in with work Microsoft accounts. No mods for me. I'm ignoring it so far but a time will come when there will be questions asked of the Aus branch, but I must keep the phone compliant or start using the Nexus 5X I was given...... It's got no SD card slot, only 16Gb of storage, a smaller and crap screen and only 2Gb of RAM. Not keen to carry and keep two phones updated and charged for daily duties.
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Are you talking about Outlook with Office 365 account with Intune Company Portal? Leaked Oreo and AEX with Magisk passes complaince checks
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
Hello need rom global redmagic 5g please
gti57 said:
Hello need rom global redmagic 5g please
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The ROM is on its way. Probably will post before Friday ends.
Hello there,
I have a few things
Firstly when will there be a update as there are many bugs on the device
Secondly do you guys plan to support this device in the long term.
Sent from my NX659J using Tapatalk
JerryYin said:
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
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Do you know what include the global Update? too many things doesn't works!!
Best regards
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The ROM is on its way. Probably will post before Friday ends.
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Any chance this update will include the ability to use an alternate launcher (eg. Nova Launcher)?
About the Pulse version
JerryYin said:
Hi XDA,
Well, this is my first thread to clarify my identity. As many people asked, yes I'm working for Nubia and responsible for all the tech support and related stuff, including the system update and some of the development work.
I'm here with my personal account to provide UN-OFFICIAL support to all the users around the world. I hope through my effort people can enjoy the RedMagic series smartphone. And I also hope developers around the world can use our phone to make better ROMS. Due to some of the regulation and restriction most of the time I can't provide a direct answer, however I can give you some tips and hints to solve it. So please don't push me too hard.
Because my works on XDA is not officially supported by the company so I can't check the XDA very often. If you got a question just @me in your post, try not to send PM because it makes more time for me to answer. If you have Telegram group related to Nubia, you can invite me @yinzicong to join, it is better to get messages on Telegram.
At last, Thanks for choosing Nubia products.
Jerry
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I heard that the Pulse version used to have problems like flickering and shut downs because of the incompatibility between the rom and its hardware (RAM and storage). I want to ask if it's fixed in the new batch of stock that have just arrived and what version of the rom it's on. Thank you.
@Veroxious
Hi, as a pulse owner I can answer your question.
I have the EU version and am on 4.05 and don't have the problems your mentioning here.
It's solid and the only "problems" I have are the few missing software parts like the battery stats / percentage and the disappearing status bar.
Other then that I don't have any problems and I use my phone a lot (during the day for work (80%) and private (20%) and after work I play some games, watch YouTube etc...
@JerryYin please allow use of alternate launchers like Nova and release kernel sources so development can be better
@JerryYin
When will be the ota update for my version ? My current version is NX659J_ENCommon_v4.05
Thnak you
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@JerryYin
When will be the ota update for my version ? My current version is NX659J_ENCommon_v4.05
Thnak you
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Probably by Friday
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Probably by Friday
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He was answering for the NA version of the phone, and the european version isn't the same, that's why I prefer to hear his own answer
But thank you for answering : )
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He was answering for the NA version of the phone, and the european version isn't the same, that's why I prefer to hear his own answer
But thank you for answering : )
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He says NA and European are the same rom.
Crossing fingers for a Software Update
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Probably by Friday
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The issue I have most with my new RedMagic 5G is that I simply can't customize the launcher. I've tried to install multiple launchers like Nova, Microsoft, Apex, etc...and the phone continues to default back to the Nubia Launcher. I had the previous RedMagic 3S and enjoyed the phone more than my 5G simply cuz I could customize my software.
I'm hoping that a new update will come out by this Friday. I just received my phone from the NA website about a week ago and my build number seems to be even older than yours. BUILD NUMBER: NX659J_ENCommon_V3.08
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Do you know what include the global Update? too many things doesn't works!!
Best regards
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Some bug fix and new features will comes with the new security patch
enzone17 said:
The issue I have most with my new RedMagic 5G is that I simply can't customize the launcher. I've tried to install multiple launchers like Nova, Microsoft, Apex, etc...and the phone continues to default back to the Nubia Launcher. I had the previous RedMagic 3S and enjoyed the phone more than my 5G simply cuz I could customize my software.
I'm hoping that a new update will come out by this Friday. I just received my phone from the NA website about a week ago and my build number seems to be even older than yours. BUILD NUMBER: NX659J_ENCommon_V3.08
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It will add in future updates.
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Probably by Friday
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Today is Friday :fingers-crossed: And probably not but definitely :angel:
Global ROMs have arrived guys!
Check the ROM/DEV section
@JerryYin I would like to ask about Screen projection function,
I would like to do screen projection to PC but when I choose PC , it open QR Code scan and suggest to download Lebo screen projection client, so where can I download this program?
Regards