[DISCUSSION] Android M for Bacon! - ONE General

So as some of you may or may not know tomorrow is Google I/O. And like last year Google will be announcing Android M. It will also most likely release an "M Preview" for the Nexus 6 and 9. Do you guys think it would be possible to port the M Preview from the Nexus 6 to OnePlus One. Also this thread is for everything related to Android M for the OnePlus One

Do you remember situation with Lollipop? I think it will be in the same way

It may be possible, though unlikely. It's just not really worth it. Too many bugs and instability. This time around I'll be looking forward to ports for the nexus 5. As I think it won't get Dev preview
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Android M Developer Preview will be available today for Nexus phones. How long until someone makes port to Bacon, or how long until we see first ROM:? :fingers-crossed:

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ages-are-live-now-for-nexus-5-6-9-and-player/
Here they go!

Guess it would be pretty sweet to get a little blend of a ROM with the cherry pickins from the Android M preview.

I think we will get the android m port when Google releases the sources of it.

Liking the new Google photos app, seems pretty slick and great that they detached it from Google+. Seems like they've refined Lollipop a bit and added some decent features. I've seen theres an option for dark theme built in now, maybe not as big a deal to us as we have total theme/customisation control, but the Nexus 6 users are going to appreciate that with their amoled display. Interested to see the app permission/privacy thing in a bit more detail as well. They sorted the volume control (mostly) with an expandable panel although is silent mode still missing?

Android M comes with App Permissions which is slick! Doze mode sounds cool but it doesn't seem to work with Google Play Services

If anyone is interested, the new google camera, search app and play services from the M-preview are already available on apkmirror (haven't tried them, son don't shoot me if they don't work).

Is it me, or is M just a slight update to lollipop?.. Why M and not 5.2?.. Most of the "features" are apps, not the OS.. The OS only got a few changes and is still virtually Lollipop.. I'm happy for the update, but, I had higher hopes for a full "version" jump..
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fmc000 said:
If anyone is interested, the new google camera, search app and play services from the M-preview are already available on apkmirror (haven't tried them, son don't shoot me if they don't work).
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I've tried them - DO NOT INSTALL !
First, you have to manually uninstall existing apps (uninstall updates, disable the built-in apps, reboot device). This allows installation of the new packages.
Second, the device will NOT boot - the new GMS triggers a crash in ProcessManager which brings down the whole system - you will probably have to re-flash the entire shebang.

ddalex said:
I've tried them - DO NOT INSTALL !
First, you have to manually uninstall existing apps (uninstall updates, disable the built-in apps, reboot device). This allows installation of the new packages.
Second, the device will NOT boot - the new GMS triggers a crash in ProcessManager which brings down the whole system - you will probably have to re-flash the entire shebang.
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Google app is working fine and Google Camera crashes on Panorama. that's all I've found atm.
So just GMS must be avoided. Also, for me apps installed just fine w/o uninstalling/rebooting

You guys should explain if these apks replace system apps or Google apps from play store

nezlobnyj said:
Google Camera crashes on Panorama.
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That's expected as you need a system lib to use the feature and installing google camera as a user app does not provide that.

It is clearly not possible to port this over. Our device uses heavy caf optimizations in kernel and framework (includes CM and Oxygen). Simply using the frameworks and app core from m will always result in a not booting device. We will have to wait for the source to be published.

OldDroid said:
It is clearly not possible to port this over. Our device uses heavy caf optimizations in kernel and framework (includes CM and Oxygen). Simply using the frameworks and app core from m will always result in a not booting device. We will have to wait for the source to be published.
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Never say it's not possible! With coding everything is possible.

raafaell said:
Never say it's not possible! With coding everything is possible.
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it is NOT possible at all!
we need to wait for opensourced code from google to start working.

Calm down a bit my friends. The image had just been released, so it is a matter of time for it to be available for bacon. Be patient, the time will come and enjoy android 5.1.1 first.. Chill
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i would like an android M version of Cyangonmod or maybe direct port of android M from google with a Cyangodemod recovery

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Android 4.2, JellyBean Update Not Coming to Nexus S or Motorola XOOM

The Android 4.2, JellyBean update will not be available for Nexus S or Motorola XOOM users.
This news was confirmed by Google's Jean-Baptiste Queru, who stated that both devices will remain running Android 4.1.2.
The reasoning behind the software not updating to the latest build of Android is due to the older hardware included on the Nexus S and Motorola XOOM.
There were already reports of Android 4.1 running slow on both devices, so updating to the newer build would not be the best idea.
The Android 4.2 JellyBean update finally rolled out to Nexus 4 pre-release users earlier this week.
The Nexus 4 smartphone will now have the ability to upgrade to the latest version on Android 4.2, which brings features that Google has previously covered such as Lock screen widgets and Multi-user support.
Lock screen widgets appear on the device's lock screen and allows the user to customize them in order to view their calendar, email, and to also identify music with Sound Search.
Multi-user support is an interesting feature that allows Nexus 10 users to share their tablet with others by creating separate customizable spaces for each person. In order to log in, users can simply turn on their tablet and tap their photo and they will be able to access their own customized version of their homescreen, apps, email, photos, and storage.
Users can customize their homescreen by choosing a wallpaper, adding favorite apps and games from Google Play, creating folders, and arranging beautiful widgets by dragging and dropping.
A Google spokesperson confirmed to 9to5 Google that Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 users will be prompted to install the update once they power up their devices for the first time.
Google has also introduced a new security feature on Android 4.2, JellyBean, that aims to reduce the running of malware on an Android device.
A similar software to this was released in the past with Bouncer, which was available in the Google Play store .
Bouncer checked applications in the Play store for malicious content.
Now Google has implemented similar software directly into the Android operating system that will detect any foul play coming from foreign programs.
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Really detailed information. Thanks for sharing.
yes its a sad news fir nexus s users
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I think the nexus can handle it, with the right optimization. But that's too much work for a nexus device apparently. Don't get me started on the Xoom. Yes, dual core doesn't always mean better, but the CPU definitely was better than the ns, and with a gig of ram (same as the gnex), it should run.
/rant
P.s detailed post, thanks dude
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My nexus handles 4.2 pretty well. That's bull****
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BenHeng said:
My nexus handles 4.2 pretty well. That's bull****
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you use the dark one rom ?
leap_ahead said:
you use the dark one rom ?
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There is already a stable ROM on 4.2? Our is it one of the two teaser ROMs in Dev section?
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OP - I'll believe it when I see it.
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>Implying we won't get it via CM10.1
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>Implying we won't get it via CM10.1
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I hope we will get it through CM when they start CM10.1
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4.2 with some luck we get it by xda dev i think ...
Thé from I am the dark one is kinda good almost everything is working. it is my daily driver :
The only annoying bug is that gesture typing doesn't work if you flash a custom kernel , either through swype or stock keyboard.
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maybe the 4.2 have no bg difference on 4.1.2, i believe theres someone out there who will port it for nexus s users.
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Warren_Orange said:
OP - I'll believe it when I see it.
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JBQ did really say that.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA/3cotWkQ-20wJ
how i wish that my gathered news was a false palm but looks like they are serious about it
I think it was a good decision on Google's part. I really had issues with the RAM requirements of JB and ICS. It always ran fairly slow when you got any heavy app running like Chrome or Maps or certain games. It really comes down to the apps being heavy but on GB the 50 - 100mb of RAM not being used by the OS really tends to go a long way when you have such hungry apps running.
tldr; Nexus S needs more ram to run JB well. I ended up going back to a GB rom (in my sig)
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I think it was a good decision on Google's part. I really had issues with the RAM requirements of JB and ICS. It always ran fairly slow when you got any heavy app running like Chrome or Maps or certain games. It really comes down to the apps being heavy but on GB the 50 - 100mb of RAM not being used by the OS really tends to go a long way when you have such hungry apps running.
tldr; Nexus S needs more ram to run JB well. I ended up going back to a GB rom (in my sig)
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This is not 100% true. If you use an debloated JB ROM with a kernel having Big Mem patch, Nexus S won't let you down (except for high end 3D games). I am running 4.2 on my Nexus S now and I have 140 MB free RAM with stock kernel. If I'll flash bedalus kernel, I think I'll have even more.
This decision from google is let's say just political
so true, with the help of bedalus marmite kernel you will got 400+mb free mem.
i think the OS are not the issue but the apps and processor matters also the internal memory...
Google mocks us!
Since I passed under android 4.2, my Nexus S works much better than before. Réactivity & performance too. I think Google wants us to change for the Nexus 4 is now impossible to buy!
even its not coming, no problem coz we already have 4.2.1 on my nexus s
thanks articudos for making Jellyshot v1.0 android version 4.2.1 , thanks for making our dream come true
here for those who want the said version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023699
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Android M Discussion thread

A place for all of us Nexus 6 users to talk about Android M and the Developer Preview any bugs or anything we find. Download links are at the bottom of this post
Android M features new features like:
Android Pay
Snooze
App permissions
USB-Type C support
Native fingerprint scanning
More to come later!
Not working:
waze
amazon music
uber
mlb at bat
evernote
flesky
directv
Cinemark
Download M System Image: http://storage.googleapis.com/androiddevelopers/shareables/preview/shamu-MPZ44Q-preview-c1d6506a.tgz
Download Page for other devices: http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
@vomer made a thread for images and flashables! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3120851
M Screenshots
How to root Android M! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3123285
Version 2 is out! Find the system image here: http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
Direct Version 2 link: http://storage.googleapis.com/androiddevelopers/shareables/preview/shamu-MPZ79M-preview-e1024040.tgz
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
Is it possible to do fingerprint scanning via the screen, with software? Or does it have o be a separate piece of hardware?
I assume hardware
Do we have to wait for I/O to end before Google throws the switch to the M preview? I for see several servers crashing for about 2 days or at least 6-10 hours before a stead fast DL.
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longshot21771 said:
Is it possible to do fingerprint scanning via the screen, with software? Or does it have o be a separate piece of hardware?
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Hardware such as Qualcomm's Sense ID
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Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
I've never flashed a developer preview before. Is it possible to flash with a nexus toolkit or does it need to be done in adb?
stevew84 said:
Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
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Yeah I thought it looked like the UI wasn't going to be a major change.
italia0101 said:
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
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"Doze"? But yes I to am asking the same question, my N6 never was plagued with all the bugs many are having except the battery, but for sure can't wait to load M up and see!
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italia0101 said:
Snooze has me intruiged , seems like its Project Volta but forced at a system level instead of waiting for developers to implement into apps
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I already get 95% deep sleep with screen off...I fail to see the point of Doze. I suppose if you're always getting FB and G+ pings all day it might help sleep more.
adam29617 said:
Do we have to wait for I/O to end before Google throws the switch to the M preview? I for see several servers crashing for about 2 days or at least 6-10 hours before a stead fast DL.
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Rumor has it the preview is coming out today. Least that is what people on reddit are reporting
stevew84 said:
Is Android M really going to look the same as L? There has to be at least a little bit of UI changes.
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It is really pretty underwhelming for a version uptick. It seriously looks like you could use M and never notice you didn't have Lollipop. Seems like Google is going all Mozilla in terms of versioning.
They already mentioned that there were minor tweaks to the core experience, but they probably don't feel they were worth highlighting.
L was a huge visual revolution. Why did people expect M was going to have a big graphical overhaul or update?
inkdrink said:
They already mentioned that there were minor tweaks to the core experience, but they probably don't feel they were worth highlighting.
L was a huge visual revolution. Why do people expect M is going to have a graphical overhaul or update?
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Probably because most people expect a major name-branded update to have something they'd visually notice....not a collection of under-the-hood bug fixes and side improvements that you could easily never notice. Because all the stuff they highlighted are things that even power users might never touch or notice were there.
I suppose that's fair, but on their yearly update schedule I'm betting just about every update in the future will be name-branded, and I doubt they'll all be UI-heavy. Either way, I still see a lot I'm excited for. Android Pay will be nice as someone who uses but has grown tired of Wallet, and contextual Google Now in apps is pretty cool as well.
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Probably because most people expect a major name-branded update to have something they'd visually notice....not a collection of under-the-hood bug fixes and side improvements that you could easily never notice. Because all the stuff they highlighted are things that even power users might never touch or notice were there.
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Yup just like the crazy differences between Froyo and Gingerbread. Or the transformation of Jelly Bean into Kit Kat.
In reality we have no idea what visual changes will be made because the software is not finalized. The M preview is just a dev preview so that apps can be updated with the latest APIs from day 1. They barely showed anything as it relates to M that would show any real visual differences.
People act surprised that M looks the same as L. Look at Google history most updates don't change too much (if at all) from updates. ICS to JB etc. Yes GB did have a green theme but that was already having several updates with minimal ui changes except maybe a launcher. Hell even KK was very similar to JB. Take away google now launcher and visually they look the same
Greg Tolan said:
Yup just like the crazy differences between Froyo and Gingerbread. Or the transformation of Jelly Bean into Kit Kat.
In reality we have no idea what visual changes will be made because the software is not finalized. The M preview is just a dev preview so that apps can be updated with the latest APIs from day 1. They barely showed anything as it relates to M that would show any real visual differences.
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The most frustrating thing is there are allegedly "1000s" of bug fixes from reports. They claim they're in the M preview, and they claim said preview will be available later today....I know this is a revolutionary thought, so hold on to your hat, but why not push those fixes to Lollipop and publish 5.1.2 next week? Rather than force users to have to wait possibly 5-12 months for an update they may never get (depending on their device OEM)?
The alleged number of fixes in M are an order of magnitude greater than the number of fixes in all the Lollipop updates for the Nexus 6, combined, thus far. And Lollipop is still pretty buggy, especially if you're not on a Nexus.
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People act surprised that M looks the same as L. Look at Google history most updates don't change too much (if at all) from updates. ICS to JB etc. Yes GB did have a green theme but that was already having several updates with minimal ui changes except maybe a launcher. Hell even KK was very similar to JB. Take away google now launcher and visually they look the same
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IIRC KK brought a bunch of notification tray improvements in ICS and JB. But that was ages ago, and I'm going off memory. Also KK ran a ton better than ICS or JB.
http://developer.android.com/preview/index.html
Live.
I find android L right now to be beautiful, and I personally don't want them to change a thing.
is it possible to flash this onto a secondary rom with multirom?

CopperheadOS

Has anyone else seen this yet? It's a supposed secure OS for nexus devices. https://copperhead.co/android/downloads If anyone checks it out, let us know how it goes.
Wow I never seen this.:laugh:
Looks interesting, Im gonna check it further. Probably a AOSP based with some patches, fdroid, and some anti-gapps apps?
Most definitely curious as to how this runs....they want you to relock the bootloader though...????????????
Runs really nice. But there is no open source support for my android wear watch which I need.
No thank you. I would rather trust google and NSA, instead of some no name offshore company.
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suhridkhan said:
No thank you. I would rather trust google and NSA, instead of some no name offshore company.
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Toronto is off-shore?
Lol
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Locking the bootloader is good for your security.
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toronto is offshore? do you think they live in igloos still aswell?
also this is just aosp with google signatures,
i tested for fun, boot animation is crap,
some lag going n settings,
no playstore access, no gapps at all from what i saw,
secure unsure, i dont know enough to rip apart the source and see if any holes from the company,
I was intrigued by Copperhead since reading about the Unaphone, another Google free operating system. Unlike Unaphone, whom's developers were providing it only for their proprietary hardware, when I saw CopperheadOS I knew I was going to try it for sure!
Previously running Resurrection, my phone already had an unlocked bootloader. Even if it hadn't, flashing Copperhead using the developer's instructions is very easy.
First impressions were good. The phone was noticeably more responsive, lacking google services normally running, and stable since the OS itself is based on stock which was considerably more stable than other roms I've tried. All the features you would expect from 6.0.1 are present and working. What is not preset however is the Google Play store or services! I didn't appreciate the implications of not having google services before actually trying to use a phone without them. Although it is possible to sideload gapps, one would rather negate the point of this ROM.
Poking around the settings the first thing I noticed were granular security settings with detailed descriptions. There is also a nice security versus performance slider for the layman. The idea of preventing exploits using the techniques in this rom is my main reason for using it.
After an evening of use, the vast majority of closed-source-paid apps I was able to replace with open-source alternatives. There are a few exceptions I am still trying to figure out, but overall, I think if you are willing to cut the google-cloud-services cord its worth a try. If you really must, most apk's for closed apps can be found and installed but these decisions should probably be weighed carefully.
I never realized my reliance on google and closed apps until I tried to use an OS that doesn't rely on them. Trying this rom is a good exercise in living off the google grid; or at the least driving the use of google services back into the browser.
At the end of the day this rom has its place for the privacy and security minded enthusiast, but for the average user, sticking to something with google services is probably more realistic.
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Toronto is off-shore?
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pacman photog said:
toronto is offshore? do you think they live in igloos still aswell?
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The 'offshore' part was simply a figure of speech.
What I mean is that if you don't trust google with your data, you have more reason not to trust an unknown company.
At least google is transparent about my data, and gives me control of how much I want to share with them. https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity
Installed it yesterday on a Nexus 5x and so far it runs great. It indeed seems really security orientated with no default root or GApps. Didn't try to activate xposed (which I hope will work) or related stuff yet but so far I intend to keep it.
Copperhead is trusted. They will be working with Guardian Project and Fdroid to build a complete system. Read this post for more info: https://copperhead.co/blog/2016/03/29/crowdfunding-partnership-announced
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Installed it yesterday on a Nexus 5x and so far it runs great. It indeed seems really security orientated with no default root or GApps. Didn't try to activate xposed (which I hope will work) or related stuff yet but so far I intend to keep it.
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Please let us know if you're able to root, install xposed and still relock the bootloader.
mg.degroot said:
Installed it yesterday on a Nexus 5x and so far it runs great. It indeed seems really security orientated with no default root or GApps. Didn't try to activate xposed (which I hope will work) or related stuff yet but so far I intend to keep it.
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Could you please share some screenshots... Would like to try the OS... But would like to see how it is ...
Also do you see the sRGB mode in developer options... Without it the colors on the Nexus 6P are inaccurate at best...
Stop asking about features or customisation options, this rom has none. Its about security, not features
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I was intrigued by Copperhead since reading about ...
After an evening of use, the vast majority of closed-source-paid apps I was able to replace with open-source alternatives. There are a few exceptions I am still trying to figure out, but overall, I think if you are willing to cut the google-cloud-services cord its worth a try. If you really must, most apk's for closed apps can be found and installed but these decisions should probably be weighed carefully.
I never realized my reliance on google and closed apps until I tried to use an OS that doesn't rely on them. Trying this rom is a good exercise in living off the google grid; or at the least driving the use of google services back into the browser.
At the end of the day this rom has its place for the privacy and security minded enthusiast, but for the average user, sticking to something with google services is probably more realistic.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. So we have decide if security is really more important than our investment and dependency in the Google ecosystem. I depend on G too much. My email is like my passport or online identification. I dont sideload unknown or unverified apps, dont visit links i dont know about, etc. Yes, i can still be remotely exploited, but i am not a gov official or some sort of millionaire with top secret info on my phone, as most of us. You saved me couple of hours of my day
A little update since I've been running this for about 2 weeks. I sideloaded gapps and the phone has been running fine, but found out today while trying to install the latest OTA update from copperhead it fails to install due to inconsistencies detected in the system partition since I installed gapps; from a security standpoint this feature is great. Unfortunately I can't function without gapps. In order to get the latest security updates, which is probably more important than the security features cooked into copperhead, I must: reflash the device with the latest full image, install twrp, sideload gapps, restore the copperhead recovery, then reinstall all my apps.
This being the case to get OTA updates, unless you can really commit to opensource with no gapps its not really worth the hassle.
Using it for an extended period I did notice the device was a bit slow even on medium security settings. Originally I had it maxed right out, but it wasn't usable. On medium it was a small price to pay for security but its hard to quantify the value.
I think its time to return to an AOSP rom for me.
I'm running it currently runs great but I can't figure out how to fix the dreaded APN issues :\ Tried almost every fix on XDA haven't gotten Any dev help either :\ other than the lack of data its a great ROM. Apparently I'm not alone judging by the other post on XDA about this. Apparently this is a known issue with no real fix. Sucks since its the only reason I got this phone
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Here are some differences between Sony's two beta programs

Here are some diffs between X Performance's Nougat beta program, and the Sony Concept program.
Android 7.0 only - Nougat beta is 7.0 dedicated, while Concept is continuing one.
Stable vs beta - You can opt for stable build under Concept.
Release timing - Weekly and monthly releases under Concept.
Supported devices - Nougat beta is only for one or two flagships, while Concept could expand to more devices if found good.
-- BIG credit to SOURCE
The Concept program is one of a kind, it looks to me. Whaddya say?
As far as I know, X Performance's Nougat Beta is beta version of normal commercial firmware.
But concept rom, which lacked most of Sony features, is just an AOSP rom with some Sony app. Mainly for test experimental features and crowdsourcing new features and integrate them to commercial firmware.
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[*]Release timing - Weekly and monthly releases under Concept.
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Every update is clear (user looses all data) install?
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As far as I know, X Performance's Nougat Beta is beta version of normal commercial firmware.
But concept rom, which lacked most of Sony features, is just an AOSP rom with some Sony app. Mainly for test experimental features and crowdsourcing new features and integrate them to commercial firmware.
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What most of Sony features are missing? Actually I don't need any specific Sony stuff, as long fingerprint and notification led are working.
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Every update is clear (user looses all data) install?
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Yes every update is clear install but sony gives you a cloud where you can backup data and then restore it back again. There is an app for that in play store
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What most of Sony features are missing? Actually I don't need any specific Sony stuff, as long fingerprint and notification led are working.
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About this I'm not sure but I think that sony made notification and fingerpint scanner working in the new update. I think that all basic stuff is working in this rom, becouse the give this firmware to public test. There could be some little bugs but I think that main features are working
Sorry for my bad english
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Yes every update is clear install but sony gives you a cloud where you can backup data and then restore it back again. There is an app for that in play store
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What app for backup?
And really every update is clean install? If the backup is partitions cloning, then yes, but otherwise no, as I have about 80 custom apps, most of them with custom settings and a lot of them doesn't have option to export/import settings, so it's a half day job to set the phone up again after update. And I don't have such time.
It's called xperia transfer mobile. When you have installed that app and then you install app for joining sony's concept program, xperia transfer app will launch automaticly. I don't know how excatly backup process in this app is working and if it's working also for custom apps. I have only dowloaded it for looking around. Nougat have many amazing features but I think that the best way is wait for official stable version. According to xda article:
The initiative is open initially to Xperia X (F5121) users in Europe. To participate in the experiment, download the Concept Installer app from the Google Play Store, and follow along the instructions to guide through the setup process. Perhaps the best part of this experiment is that it does not affect the warranty status of the device. Updates to the concept ROM are promised monthly, but users can opt-in for the alpha and experimental releases as well. You can also roll back to Sony’s skin as well. You do lose your data, so users are advised to make backups beforehand.
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What most of Sony features are missing? Actually I don't need any specific Sony stuff, as long fingerprint and notification led are working.
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Concept rom use AOSP dialer and contact app, AOSP SMS app, AOSP System ui, No stamina mode and turing on battery saver mode will theme status bar and nav bar with bright orange color. But ppl said battery life is amazing.
I think there was some misunderstanding in here. flashing concept will wipe your data when you're coming from official software, but the weekly/monthly concept updated won't wipe your data.

ARCore officially released for Nexus 5X & 6P!!

During Google I/O 2018, Google officially released ARCore 1.2. With this version, they added compatibility with a wider (but still limited) range of devices. Most importantly, our Nexus 5X is listed as compatible ! You can check the full list of compatible devices here.
Caveat: the new version of ARCore is still being rolling out worldwide (i.e. might not show up on Google Play Store yet), but if you are impatient (like me ) you can download the latest APK from Google's GitHub repository (direct link to APK). APKMirror is listing the latest APK as well, but I haven't tested it.
Installation went smoothly, I also followed Google's instruction (link) to package the HelloAR app. And.... IT WORKS FLAWLESSLY! No lag, tracking is on point, it can detect surfaces located at different heights (i.e. separate the floor from a table), and it also has vertical planes' support!
Since I couldn't find the HelloAR APK that used the latest SDK, I compiled it myself in 5 mins. But if you are lazy, and don't want to follow the Getting Started guide, You can get the APK I got straight out of Unity from here, no changes made. However, I ASSUME NO RESPONSIBILITIES IN CASE YOU BRICK YOUR OWN DEVICE. Since I never posted an APK before, you might think I could infect this APK with malware, and I understand that. If you don't want to trust me, go ahead and compile the app yourself: it's free, and will take you less than 10 mins :good:
Tell me what you think guys of this awesome news :highfive:
You can now download it from store! No more crazy hacking, yay!
What does this do? And would it be worth it to put on the 5x
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gingus7 said:
What does this do? And would it be worth it to put on the 5x
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This would basically add advanced augmented reality support to your device. For example, you can use an app to accurately measure the distance between two point using your phobe, or try Ikea furniture and see how they would look like in your room. It's excitirng because we believed Google wouldn't have added support for an "old" device such us Nexus 5X
Sounds good I'll add it
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Thanks, it's awesome!!!
But how to have something different than the Android robot, must we create the samples with sdk or is there already some available models. Because on the show dated 8 months ago, there were playing with lot of objects.
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francos21 said:
Thanks, it's awesome!!!
But how to have something different than the Android robot, must we create the samples with sdk or is there already some available models. Because on the show dated 8 months ago, there were playing with lot of objects.
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You can create you own apps using the SDK, or you can try other apps such us ARuler, Ikea Place or Just a Line (these are the apps I tested, and work with this version of ARcore on Nexus 5X running Android Oreo 8.1).
Does this mean AR stickers will work too?
Milan P. said:
Does this mean AR stickers will work too?
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I think they still need to be updated, since they are still upside down.. You can try and maybe get different results!

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