[Q] Facebook updating OUTSIDE of the Play Store? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I run Version 27 of the Facebook app. Since I got my Note 4 last week, Facebook has been updating daily and sometimes more often than once, OUTSIDE of the Play Store.
I have all auto-updates turned off, no unknown sources allowed. This seems to happen only on the pre-installed version. This never, ever happened on my S5.
Is anyone else with any carrier having this issue?

Zoey2014 said:
I run Version 27 of the Facebook app. Since I got my Note 4 last week, Facebook has been updating daily and sometimes more often than once, OUTSIDE of the Play Store.
I have all auto-updates turned off, no unknown sources allowed. This seems to happen only on the pre-installed version. This never, ever happened on my S5.
Is anyone else with any carrier having this issue?
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I know youre new to the Note 4 but not to XDA please follow the Forum Rules,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/post-questions-t2866827
as per your question, I haven't seen this issue, please uninstall and re-install the app, or wipe the apps, cache, and data and try again, god bless , cheers:fingers-crossed:

yoniinfante said:
I know youre new to the Note 4 but not to XDA please follow the Forum Rules,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/post-questions-t2866827
as per your question, I haven't seen this issue, please uninstall and re-install the app, or wipe the apps, cache, and data and try again, god bless , cheers:fingers-crossed:
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Sorry, I did a quick skim, didn't notice the "no questions here" someone can feel free to move this.
You can't uninstall it, they made it "bloatware". Clearing cache etc doesn't work. This happens daily.

Zoey2014 said:
Sorry, I did a quick skim, didn't notice the "no questions here" someone can feel free to move this.
You can't uninstall it, they made it "bloatware". Clearing cache etc doesn't work. This happens daily.
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You cant Unistall Facebook app???

yoniinfante said:
You cant Unistall Facebook app???
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No, Facebook and Instagram were pre-loaded like bloatware. Disable is all you can do. I use the app, just don't want anything above v27.

Zoey2014 said:
No, Facebook and Instagram were pre-loaded like bloatware. Disable is all you can do. I use the app, just don't want anything above v27.
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Well, mate root your phone and flash a custom ROM, you will get all kinds of advantages, if I helped please use the Thanks button, god bless, cheers:fingers-crossed:

yoniinfante said:
Well, mate root your phone and flash a custom ROM, you will get all kinds of advantages, if I helped please use the Thanks button, god bless, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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I wish I could root it. No root for my variant yet.

there are two hidden apps in system responsible for that
com.facebook.appmanager
com.facebook.system
i did wanted to install them, they were installed silentlythey may causing it to update

Salim.Keady said:
there are two hidden apps in system responsible for that
com.facebook.appmanager
com.facebook.system
i did wanted to install them, they were installed silentlythey may causing it to update
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I think you are correct about those two files, because I saw those show up.
I had some crazy issues with my phone two days ago and Best Buy had to replace it. I came home, didn't log into my Google or Samsung account. While it was downloading Lollipop, my Facebook app updated. Again, outside of the Play Store and this phone had never been logged into the Play Store, I also had not logged into my Facebook app or sideload my Facebook apk.
I saw those two files listed as "downloaded" in the App Manager. I was able to uninstall updates and disable them. Then I did uninstalled updates on the Facebook app and sideload version 27. I saw those two files in downloaded apps before when I did a reset when my original phone when nuts.
Since I disabled those and they don't show up in the "turned off" apps or show up anywhere now, my Facebook hasn't updated again. I was looking today to see if I could find those two files and where I had them disabled. But, again, the only time I have seen them is when I haven't installed my app and the app has just updated by itself. I hope that has stopped it for me. I think if someone isn't rooted, the only way to deal with those two files is how I did the other night.

lol man thanks i know about them but i forgot to disable them

Salim.Keady said:
lol man thanks i know about them but i forgot to disable them
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Yeah I could only disable with the first update. I don't even know if going and uninstalling updates to Facebook, will let you do this or if you can only catch them with the first update after a reset or out of the box. All that based on a non-rooted device.
Still no updates for me since I was able to do that the other night and it was updating several times a day. Every time I rolled it back, it would update again not much long after.

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Pre-installed Facebook App on Note 4

After disabling the built in Facebook application using the Application Manager, I noticed it somehow automatically updated itself and no longer appeared in the Disabled apps list. It's crazy enough I have deal with unwanted pre-loaded applications I won't use but having something on my device that's re-enabling a specific application I disabled and automatically updating it is unacceptable to me. I'd like for someone who also owns this device to try the same thing and letting me know your observation.
Yeah, it's re-enabled itself twice on me already. At this point, since I've not yet rooted my phone, I unfortunately am letting it remain installed & updating, even though I have no facebook account (anymore)
You have to disable the face book messenger too or it still has its hooks in your phone. I disabled it on day 1 and no problems at all for me
Dvanzutphenkann said:
You have to disable the face book messenger too or it still has its hooks in your phone. I disabled it on day 1 and no problems at all for me
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Both were disabled at the same time. The Facebook Messenger has stayed disabled.
xtype85 said:
Both were disabled at the same time. The Facebook Messenger has stayed disabled.
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Wow hasn't happened here yet, I'll report back if it does
Get root access, first of all.
Get Root Explorer.
Navigate to root > system > app > find Facebook and delete it.
xtype85 said:
Both were disabled at the same time. The Facebook Messenger has stayed disabled.
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Ok so it happened to me when I connected to WiFi so I turned off the automatic updates in play store settings and it shouldn't happen again.
Dvanzutphenkann said:
Ok so it happened to me when I connected to WiFi so I turned off the automatic updates in play store settings and it shouldn't happen again.
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I also had that disabled within the Play Store but a new Software Update was just released that states it improves performance and has some bug fixes so I'll try disabling it again after applying this update.
Even if you disable an app, it will ask you to update it. If you update it, it will activate again. Make sure to disable auto-updating and when updating apps, just dont update that one.
Why is facebook even forcefully on our phone...not only do we have to deal with manufacturer bloat, carrier bloat, now facebook bloat?!?!?!
mgbotoe said:
Why is facebook even forcefully on our phone...not only do we have to deal with manufacturer bloat, carrier bloat, now facebook bloat?!?!?!
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I'm sure Sammy made some serious coin for that facecrook bloat
Dvanzutphenkann said:
I'm sure Sammy made some serious coin for that facecrook bloat
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Thank god for root
mgbotoe said:
Thank god for root
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Yeah, eventually I'll go that route I'm just not in a rush to do it. But amen for root! How have you been BTW?
devynbf said:
Get root access, first of all.
Get Root Explorer.
Navigate to root > system > app > find Facebook and delete it.
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Be sure to also remove it from /data/app too.
mgbotoe said:
Thank god for root
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I wasn't going to root to test out how KNOX due to using my phone for work but FB pissed me off with always updating even though i disabled it and i finally said "F That" and rooted.
All preinstalled apps can do this.
It's because the play-store app has to be restarted once to get the application off from the updates list.
The pending update will raise the application even if it was disabled.
I had this happen with play magazines and movies. They kept coming back and there always was an update for them as i kept reverting them to
original state while disabling them.
So kill play store from the task manager after disabling an app. This has nothing to do with facebook.
devynbf said:
Get root access, first of all.
Get Root Explorer.
Navigate to root > system > app > find Facebook and delete it.
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Thanks and how would a non tech person get the Root Access or is it already on the Notebook
baz1ll said:
Thanks and how would a non tech person get the Root Access or is it already on the Notebook
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If you are going to jump down the rabbit whole of rooting and flashing custom ROMs you definitely have some reading to do.
Here is your root thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55989825
EASY STEPS >>> STOCK ODIN N910TUVU1COD6 -> CF-ROOT -> TWRP RECOVERY -> FIX -> Done!
Also the noon friendly thread is your partner use it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57723283
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Facebook auto,updates
This same thing happens to me. I have an AT&T version of Galaxy Note Edge. No root exists for this miserable $1,000 piece of crap phone.
My play settings are set to NOT auto update.
Facebook comes as a system app on this phone.
Can't root it, so can't get rid of it. Constantly auto updates, disabling the Facebook chat enabler, which doesn't require the separate messenger app. The chat enabler doesn't work with newer versions, so every day I have to go to the app manager and Uninstall updates to FB. Doesn't prompt for updates, just does it. Can't revert back to Kit-Kat on the phone because it bricks the phone.
@$&#%?☆~¿*¥
talon1812 said:
This same thing happens to me. I have an AT&T version of Galaxy Note Edge. No root exists for this miserable $1,000 piece of crap phone.
My play settings are set to NOT auto update.
Facebook comes as a system app on this phone.
Can't root it, so can't get rid of it. Constantly auto updates, disabling the Facebook chat enabler, which doesn't require the separate messenger app. The chat enabler doesn't work with newer versions, so every day I have to go to the app manager and Uninstall updates to FB. Doesn't prompt for updates, just does it. Can't revert back to Kit-Kat on the phone because it bricks the phone.
@$&#%?☆~¿*¥
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lol never get an ATT device if you ever want root

bloatware not showing up in the playstore my apps list

Just like the title reads I think i did well over a hundred FDR since getting this device mainly out of boredom. Now as of yesterday not sure if its something I did or not but some of the bloatware...mainly amazon apps/motorola apps are not showing up in the my playstore my apps list. Anyone know a fix or reason why?
the_rooter said:
Just like the title reads I think i did well over a hundred FDR since getting this device mainly out of boredom. Now as of yesterday not sure if its something I did or not but some of the bloatware...mainly amazon apps/motorola apps are not showing up in the my playstore my apps list. Anyone know a fix or reason why?
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I have cleared the cache also and still nothing.
the_rooter said:
Just like the title reads I think i did well over a hundred FDR since getting this device mainly out of boredom. Now as of yesterday not sure if its something I did or not but some of the bloatware...mainly amazon apps/motorola apps are not showing up in the my playstore my apps list. Anyone know a fix or reason why?
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I am not positive but I don't think they will show up unless they have been updated through the play store. Once they have been updated on your device, they should be there.
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donsmith1964 said:
I am not positive but I don't think they will show up unless they have been updated through the play store. Once they have been updated on your device, they should be there.
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I have had this device since it came out and all the bloatware would show up in the my apps just would show update or disabled if i disabled them. Doesn't even show that.
the_rooter said:
I have had this device since it came out and all the bloatware would show up in the my apps just would show update or disabled if i disabled them. Doesn't even show that.
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My Apps is a record of what you have installed before, not what you have installed currently on the device viewing it.
Therefore, if someone were to say, nuke the bloatware from the list (had it ever been installed from the play store), then it would have to be reinstalled manually to make it back on the list.
Auto-updates when getting a new device don't count for the My Apps list I do not think unless new permissions are required, which requires end user interference to install it.
adrynalyne said:
My Apps is a record of what you have installed before, not what you have installed currently on the device viewing it.
Therefore, if someone were to say, nuke the bloatware from the list (had it ever been installed from the play store), then it would have to be reinstalled manually to make it back on the list.
Auto-updates when getting a new device don't count for the My Apps list I do not think unless new permissions are required, which requires end user interference to install it.
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Thats odd. When I first got the phone and never had installed any of the bloatware before they showed up on the list. Thanks
the_rooter said:
Thats odd. When I first got the phone and never had installed any of the bloatware before they showed up on the list. Thanks
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Mine did too, but I have had previous Verizon phones which I assume I had manually updated before the days of debloating. I've since cleared them out and they are still not there the last time I looked.
adrynalyne said:
Mine did too, but I have had previous Verizon phones which I assume I had manually updated before the days of debloating. I've since cleared them out and they are still not there the last time I looked.
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they dont show on the list as disabled?
the_rooter said:
they dont show on the list as disabled?
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Are we talking about the play store app list or the one on the phone?
If we are talking about the one on the phone this entire time, then this is all easily explained. When you disable an app, it uninstalls any updates you may have applied beforehand.
adrynalyne said:
Are we talking about the play store app list or the one on the phone?
If we are talking about the one on the phone this entire time, then this is all easily explained. When you disable an app, it uninstalls any updates you may have applied beforehand.
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the play store app list would normally show apps that were disabled on there...aka the motorola/verizon/amazon
the_rooter said:
the play store app list would normally show apps that were disabled on there...aka the motorola/verizon/amazon
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I've never seen that, but probably because I've always uninstalled play store apps and not.disabled them.
adrynalyne said:
I've never seen that, but probably because I've always uninstalled play store apps and not.disabled them.
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thats wierd but ok. thanks

Apps still updated after disabling automatic updates

I disabled automatic updates in playstore settings but for some reason apps are still auto-updating. Its getting to be pretty annoying too because every time I remove a bloatware app it just downloads and reinstalls it.
How do I stop this??
AMShiech said:
I disabled automatic updates in playstore settings but for some reason apps are still auto-updating. Its getting to be pretty annoying too because every time I remove a bloatware app it just downloads and reinstalls it.
How do I stop this??
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Try clearing Play Store data/cache (settings->apps) followed by a reboot. You will need to update/reapply personal settings, including the master toggle for automatic updates.
AMShiech said:
I disabled automatic updates in playstore settings but for some reason apps are still auto-updating. Its getting to be pretty annoying too because every time I remove a bloatware app it just downloads and reinstalls it.
How do I stop this??
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Most of them are in the oem partition anyways. So remove them from there. But do it in twrp file manager, because trying to edit oem while booted will lock up the device.
AMShiech said:
I disabled automatic updates in playstore settings but for some reason apps are still auto-updating. Its getting to be pretty annoying too because every time I remove a bloatware app it just downloads and reinstalls it.
How do I stop this??
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Did Davey126's suggestion of clearing the Play Store app settings fix this for you?
kentchristopher said:
Did Davey126's suggestion of clearing the Play Store app settings fix this for you?
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Clearing the play store cache did worked for a few of the apps but the ones in the OEM I effectively deleted in twrp. Turns out the OEM partition on this phone is largely useless bloat and not much else.
kentchristopher said:
Did Davey126's suggestion of clearing the Play Store app settings fix this for you?
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Also before deleting from oem, first just try renaming them (with a ~ at the end for example) to make sure it's safe to remove. Then boot up and check, if all is good then you delete if you want. Many people delete things, then come back here asking if anyone has a copy because they deleted something they needed.
Just to be safe.
madbat99 said:
Also before deleting from oem, first just try renaming them (with a ~ at the end for example) to make sure it's safe to remove. Then boot up and check, if all is good then you delete if you want. Many people delete things, then come back here asking if anyone has a copy because they deleted something they needed.
Just to be safe.
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Yea this ain't my first rodeo. I've bricked far too many devices to make that mistake again. I only did away with the crap I was 100% certain was just that, crap, ie boost zone, amazon, facebook, etc. Though I'm still trying to figure out what it was I removed that rendered system webview permanently frozen, but I made a separate thread regarding that.
AMShiech said:
Yea this ain't my first rodeo. I've bricked far too many devices to make that mistake again. I only did away with the crap I was 100% certain was just that, crap, ie boost zone, amazon, facebook, etc. Though I'm still trying to figure out what it was I removed that rendered system webview permanently frozen, but I made a separate thread regarding that.
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I was talking to the person I quoted. To make sure they did it correctly.
Sounds like you did a bunch of stuff that could have caused your issue.

Question about an app that keeps closing?

I have a 6t tmobile version that I updated to the international version and I have an app that won't load. When I click on it I acts like is going to open and then closes instantly. Is supper quick that you don't really see it. Help. The app is the YouVersion bible app. The thing is that the app was working fine before the update to international version. And the only older versions work.
Every time I update I have a few apps that do this. I have to open the play store and let Android system WebView update to cure this problem. Have you checked for updates yet?
OhioYJ said:
Every time I update I have a few apps that do this. I have to open the play store and let Android system WebView update to cure this problem. Have you checked for updates yet?
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It is disable on my end. I am running android 9
juancastro86 said:
It is disable on my end. I am running android 9
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Not for the OS, in the play store.
OhioYJ said:
Not for the OS, in the play store.
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That is what it says here
juancastro86 said:
It is disable on my end. I am running android 9
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juancastro86 said:
That is what it says here
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Oh, I get it. Did you disable it? That is very weird. That was needed and it being outdated was the exact cause of my problems when I had similar issues that you describe.
I remove many things from OOS, but I've noticed there a few things I have to make sure are up and running before I remove otherwise I have issues.
What I would do is try and re-enable that and update it. See if that fixes it. If it does great. Try and disable it again after that if you want. However I think you may need it. Otherwise if you are rooted, back up that app with TitaniumBackup, and probably it's data in Android / Data folders and try a fresh install (This should be a last resort)? <-- That is unless it's an app that doesn't really have data that matters. If it's something that can be freshly installed without worry go ahead.
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Oh, I get it. Did you disable it? That is very weird. That was needed and it being outdated was the exact cause of my problems when I had similar issues that you describe.
I remove many things from OOS, but I've noticed there a few things I have to make sure are up and running before I remove otherwise I have issues.
What I would do is try and re-enable that and update it. See if that fixes it. If it does great. Try and disable it again after that if you want. However I think you may need it. Otherwise if you are rooted, back up that app with TitaniumBackup, and probably it's data in Android / Data folders and try a fresh install (This should be a last resort)? <-- That is unless it's an app that doesn't really have data that matters. If it's something that can be freshly installed without worry go ahead.
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I figure out how to enable it, but it did not help. The app keeps opening and closing instantly
try this
force stop the app, its probably running in the background
wipe the cache and data in the app(settings/apps and notifications/
then un install the app
now reboot, and let the phone settle in a minute
go to app store and try to download/ install again
thats what I would try.
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try this
force stop the app, its probably running in the background
wipe the cache and data in the app(settings/apps and notifications/
then un install the app
now reboot, and let the phone settle in a minute
go to app store and try to download/ install again
thats what I would try.
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I did that however it does the same thing am just going to wait for an update.
email the developer and let him know about your issue..
Thanks for all the help. I finally got it to work. What I ended up doing was reseting the phone. I guess the last time when I used the oneplus backup app it cause a problem. Or a least that is what I think. I used the Google backup instead.
I found the answer
Hi i hope it can help for myself i finally got the ultimate tricks to prevent any background app to be killed especially the bible using text to speech output you only need to move your app to system ?

Apps reactivating themselves

Hi guys
So I have disabled a few apps but the phone activates Google Photos and YouTube on its own, mainly after reboot. I have disabled automatic app updates on Play Store but that didn't do it.
Anyone with an idea on why this keeps happening?
Thanks.
I feel ya ? ... Just keep trying til they stay disabled. it usually takes a few tries to disable it cause Google reactivates them but after a few times they stay deactivated. I only use Google maps but even then It'll even update itself even if you uncheck the do not auto update.
Are you not rooted? I take it that's the only reason not to just remove them entirely?
Last time I ran OOS I removed a bit more than this, but this is an old list I posted. I never had any problems anything in that post.
Dr8ven said:
I feel ya ... Just keep trying til they stay disabled. it usually takes a few tries to disable it cause Google reactivates them but after a few times they stay deactivated. I only use Google maps but even then It'll even update itself even if you uncheck the do not auto update.
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Does it take more than 10 times? I have disabled plenty already and it updates because of something related to the language of the apps (I have cleared app data but didn't help).
OhioYJ said:
Are you not rooted? I take it that's the only reason not to just remove them entirely?
Last time I ran OOS I removed a bit more than this, but this is an old list I posted. I never had any problems anything in that post.
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Nope, no root. The solution is very straight forward with root

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