Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI
tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !
If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.
Mister B said:
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
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Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
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Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
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That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice
Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z
Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655
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I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
Hi all!
I bought the Touch Dual last week and since then have been doing tens of installs/uninstalls to check what apps are out there etc (AE Button Plus was one of them).
I remember when i got it I could enter both TEXT and numbers from the sliding out number pad. I used the *XT9 button to differentiate between ABC, abc, XT9 - text input methods.
Now pressing the *XT9 buttons doesnt do anything anywhere - all i can enter with my kaypad are corresponding numbers.
I must have removed/unchecked something in the settings, but what?
Thanks in advance!
callix
callix2 said:
Hi all!
I bought the Touch Dual last week and since then have been doing tens of installs/uninstalls to check what apps are out there etc (AE Button Plus was one of them).
I remember when i got it I could enter both TEXT and numbers from the sliding out number pad. I used the *XT9 button to differentiate between ABC, abc, XT9 - text input methods.
Now pressing the *XT9 buttons doesnt do anything anywhere - all i can enter with my kaypad are corresponding numbers.
I must have removed/unchecked something in the settings, but what?
Thanks in advance!
callix
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Yes!! I too had that problem... It seems that after installing about 5 apps, this will happen. I hard-resetted about 5 times now and i still dont know what exactly causes this trouble
I have the same problem too.. I've posted it under this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384160
Does anyone know how to solve it?
Solved
Fixed it. The alphabetical input from the hardware 16-keyboard is back in SMS/Word Mobile/Texting programs!!
Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
This makes the hardware *xT9 button allow to switch between ABC, abc, #12, T9.
PS: Im using this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335). The problem occured after I was using the above ROM for a while, and it was fixed without reflashing anything.
Hope this helps!
Callix
is there like a registry fix for this problem instead of flashing an entire rom?
@sebastlim
there's no need to reflash anything. with my Niki Project 6.1 ROM, when the problem started, i just went to Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
Callix
callix2 said:
@sebastlim
there's no need to reflash anything. with my Niki Project 6.1 ROM, when the problem started, i just went to Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
Callix
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Yes, but that options is only available on that rom, others dont have it
And even doing that doesnt change anything on my niki rom.
Until I turned it off and back on again. D'oh!
Problem with physical slide out keyboard and soft input panel keyboards
I have a 20 key version touch dual and had this problem as well - and unlike the other posts, I had not installed any additional apps. The WM 6.1 version CE OS 5.2.19716.1.1.0.
Here is what is happenening:
1. The slide out physical keyboard will type only the numbers when the numeric keys are pressed. The alphabet keys on the sides q/w, a/s, z/x, o/p, ,/l etc only input the first letter and dont cycle on to the second letter [eg only q comes up - you cannot bring on w] and the xt9 stops functioning. Pressing the alt or sym/*/xt9 key does nothing other than typing up *.
2. The two soft input panel keyboards (touch keyboard 20 and touch keypad 12) revert to a qwerty keyboard and dont switch to a xt9 mode.
3. I tried using the Start-->Programs-->PDA Settings-->>check T9 option. It works but erratically. Often, it reverts back when the PDA is turned off and on [not soft reset]. When I go back to PDA settings and look, the T9 option is checked and yet the behaviour was non T9. I checked off and checked on T9 -->> works again. Sliding out the physical keypad seems to preserve the xt9 most of the time. Erratic..
I will try to install the fix from HTC
the difinite solution
Check whether PCM keyboard is installed and if yes, uninstall it. The problem will be solved!
If you install the appropriate version of EzInput (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281 ) it should re-enable your hardware keys.
Good luck!
When I want to use the keyboard and have the Full QUERTY keyboard selected, it's in numeric mode. When I tap ABC to get to the alfanumeric mode nothing happens. What is the solution?
Axum
Did you try tapping on the right side of the keyboard button so you can choose which keyboard you want to use?
Right hand side there is a abc button, is it not there?
yes, I tried that, both full or compact QWERTY is not working when I select them and then tap ABC. When I select the standard Windows Mobile keyboard, then I get a Qwerty keyboard that I can use.
I had this problem earlier on the same phone (but I did a hard reset then) and now the problem is back.
The problem started when I selected 123 for the first time in the Full Qwerty mode.
Axum
Anything installed before the problems started?
I've had this problem before as well. Do you have any other SIP's installed?
I have the same problem, except mine also does it with the
123
456
789
Caps0Symbol
keyboard. Yes, a horrid explanation, but I have no clue what the English word for it is, since I'm running Danish OS.
go here for a few fixes
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=617541
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=507768
same happened to me today, and it came back after doing the regedit fix
i found that the change to T9 mode in advance config or HDtweak was what was causing it to come back
have now disabled all the T9 options throughout and seems to have stayed put
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
CorruptedSanity said:
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
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Go to touch input settings and uncheck everything.
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
CorruptedSanity said:
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
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Hmm strange sorry man I got nothin. Maybe disable supportmssip in hklm/software/tegic/et9 ?
Ok I noticed that its on ABC not t9 when I attempt to enter text on tasks for note for example, but text entry in sms is set to t9 by default. Weird, shoulndt it be consistent between applications.
On my HD2 phone I have installed Resco Keyboard (also there was another program but I have uninstalled it) and I don't see (or know) the options menu that it is said to be when you tap the triangle next to the input method indicator. I don't see any Option in the menu to configure the selected text input options ?
Where it is ?
Never mind found it in Settings menus...
So you replaced the default, powerful, HTC onscreen keyboard with a rip-off of the crappy iPhone onscreen keyboard?
The iFanBoyism will never cease to amaze me...
No, I don't like this either, now I just try all the keyboards I can find, until now Finger Keyboard is my preferred
I am trying a couple of ROMs based on windows mobile 6.5.3 and 6.5.5
I noticed that the input selector arrow is missing (keyboard > right side).
So how to make the selection between different input methods? I can't find any manuals online.
Sometimes the options which were available in earlier version (Text Input Settigns, Phone Keypad, Compact Qwerty, About) do appear if I tap twice (quick tapping) sometimes they do not...I am puzzled.
Please can someone point me to the right usage of the new keyboard icon (bottom centre)?
Thanks
Saulo
I noticed that If I tap and hold then a new window appear : "Touch Input"... but this does not solve my puzzle: how to make the keyboard appears and then disappears? (just clisk for 1/3 of seconds) How to make the option appear? it seems too random...
I found my solution: the latest Xanny ROM!
Yes this ROM does provide a new WM 6.5.3 optimized keyboard icon: if I press for less than 1/3 of sec the keyboard layout is toggled (on and off). It is fine.
If I press for 1/2 sec, then the menu of options appear. Xanny improvements is here: there is a button on the bottom line (CLOSE) which is NOT present in all other wm6.5.3 ROMs that I have tested...This CLOSE Button does effectively provide a way to revert to the Keyboard layout.
Anyway, any other feedbacks?
Thanks
Saulo
no guys, it is like with wm6.5 but the arrow to choose keyboard is not visible.
What i want to say is that if you click lower right part of the icon it will show the keyboard selector and the rest of it will hide/show keyb.
regards
The input selector arrow is not a part of 6.5.x UI, it has never been. It was replaced by longpress on SIP button. Of course when longpress is already used (by Sense), this is an issue... But it is not a bug of 6.5.x
Thanks Tryde.
Is there a way to completely disable SENSE, so we can avoid conflicts on the icon selector?
Another questions (a bit off topic): if not possible to disable SENSE, at least can we disable HTC Messaging? I wish to use the keyboard with old fashion Microsoft TXT and SMS messaging.
thanks
Saulo
saulo866 said:
Thanks Tryde.
Is there a way to completely disable SENSE, so we can avoid conflicts on the icon selector?
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I may be wrong (not using 6.5.x at the moment), but if you use a third party keyboard (finger keyboard for example), it should disable this popup. Have you tried ?
Possible solution
I have found another possible solution. If you disable the change of SIP, the menu will not appear and there is no troubles with hiding the keyboard.
I disabled SIP menu in registry by changing HKLM\Software\HTC\ezsip\EnableSipMenu to 0.
Little disadvantage is that now you can't change your keyboard. (But if you are using still the one like me, there is no problem.)
Let me now, if it helps you.