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I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
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I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
I have a question for those of you (if any) who are using the letter recognizer, the block recognizer, or the original Windows Mobile keyboard as your input method on the Touch HD: Do you get word completion pop-ups?
I'm a long-time WM user (the Touch HD is my fifth WM device) and the letter recognizer is my preferred method of input and one of the reasons I like it is the convenience of not having to type entire long words most of the time, with the ability to simply pick from the completion suggestions pop-up instead. However, I get no completion pop-up on the Touch HD when I use the letter recognizer. The same is true for the block recognizer and the WM keyboard as well. Am I alone in experiencing this? Am I alone in being annoyed by this? What gives?...
I use the Letter Recognizer and find it faster than any of the keyboard. Make sure you enable T9 in the default keyboard and word completion will be available. I thought I lost it too when I accidentally disabled T9.
Thanks for your response. This tells me that something might be wrong on my device, because I get no word completion pop-ups even when I do that.
Here are all of my current settings related to this:
On the Full QWERTY keyboard, the "ABC <-> T9" slider is set to T9.
On the Compact QWERTY keyboard, the "ABC <-> T9" slider is set to T9.
Under "Touch Input Settings", "Word Completion in T9 mode" is selected, "Word Completion in ABC mode" is selected, "Auto-Substitution" is deselected, "Spell Correction" is deselected.
Under the input "Options" (the original WM input options), on the "Word Completion" tab, "Suggest words when entering text" is selected. (The "Suggest after entering" setting is "2 letters", the "Suggest" setting is "4 words", and "Add a space after word" is deselected.) And "Enable Auto Correct" is deselected.
Still no word completion suggestion pop-ups...
I have no idea what could be wrong!
If there's anyone out there with additional insight into this, your feedback would be appreciated. You might be my only hope.
It's odd, I set mine to the "phone keypad" and now it wont go back to any of the others, I've tried them all, selected them, go back in and *poof* it's gone back to a standard phone layout. Turning it on and off failed to fix this so I'm presuming I'm going to have to reset
I have the same problem here too.
What keyboards do you have installed? I have the SPB Keyboard, reckon that might affect things??
All my settings are the same as above...and HD Tweak says T9 and word completion are on. T9 and word completion wwork fine on the keyboards but not the letter/block recogniser.
I don't have any third party keyboard installed (if I don't count the HTC stuff that came with the phone). I do have a bunch of other software installed, on the other hand. But, I don't think any of those have anything to do with input methods (although, it's hard to discount "unintended consequences"...).
I must add that suggestions don't work for me on the Windows Mobile default keyboard either. (I'm not sure if you implied that it works on yours.)
So, my exact situation is as follows:
HTC Full QWERTY keyboard:
Suggestions displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
HTC Compact QWERTY keyboard:
Suggestions displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
HTC Phone keypad:
Suggestions (surprisingly) displayed horizontally listed (i.e., HTC-proprietary)
Windows default keyboard:
No suggestions
Letter recognizer:
No suggestions
Block recognizer:
No suggestions
Suggestions aren't applicable to the Transcriber, naturally.
Perhaps I should have tried this much sooner, but it just occurred to me to try a wider Google search on this topic, and I came across another thread on this site that seems like it might contain the solution(s):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441656&highlight=word+completion
I'm at work right now, so I can't try it right away, but I'll surely do it as soon as I get home. If anyone else with this problem is willing to try that before me, please let us know about the result.
gadgetuk437 said:
I have the same problem here too.
What keyboards do you have installed? I have the SPB Keyboard, reckon that might affect things??
All my settings are the same as above...and HD Tweak says T9 and word completion are on. T9 and word completion wwork fine on the keyboards but not the letter/block recogniser.
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I use the phone keypad on mine and it was fine up until yesterday.
The only thing it gives now is numbers! every other method of text input appears to be ok
Strange, I have had no issues with word complete as long as T9 is selected in the default HTC Full QWERTY keyboard or any of the HTC keyboard. Had this issue with my Omnia in the past where if T9 is activated, the Word Complete pop-up won't work and I had to do a registry tweak to enable word complete, after which T9 is disabled in the other keyboards.
One questoin from a newbie -
i have a problem that I can not menege to use Letter Recognizer.
In settings for inpust I select Letter Recognizer. And confirm.
But always I get keybord. If I open settings again the Full Querty is chosen.
thanx
sorry - I've read the f... manual
I was to lazy
xmaspast said:
I use the phone keypad on mine and it was fine up until yesterday.
The only thing it gives now is numbers! every other method of text input appears to be ok
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I had a similar problem on my rom (German) after setting T9 to enabled in HD Tweak. Setting T9 in the keyboard settings is fine but you might wanna try to deactivate it in HD Tweak if you enabled it there before.
should it only work when T9 is on ? Or should it also be on when you use ABC?
Cause I would like to have it on when I enabled ABC
I use the letter recogniser about 50% of the time.. I find it slightly quicker than the keyboard on WM.. However as a long time user of UIQ... SE P800/900/990/1 I wish there was something similar to the letter recogniser available on those?? Any one know? It was so logical.. Use the lower half of the screen for letters, top for numbers, and straddle the middle for capitals.. Not like WM where you are restricted to a small box at the bottom.
anyone know if you can get this for WM6.1?
Well, I'm happy to report that the solution explained in the post at the following URL has done what I was trying to achieve (post #8 on that thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2630663&postcount=8
This brings back the word completion pop-up lists on the standard Windows Mobile input methods. It does eliminate the HTC word completion on the HTC input methods, though (including T9, which makes the Compact QWERTY useless for typing words). But, if you're not interested in those input methods and all you want is to be able to use the Letter Recognizer, Block Recognizer, or WM keyboard with word completion, this may be your solution. (Naturally, try it at your own risk...)
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sorry - I've read the f... manual
I was to lazy
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How exactly did you get the Letter Recogniser to work? I used to have it in the OEM ROM but my Enable_recognisers.cab doesn't seem to work on Dutty's 2.1 xtreme ROM.... or is it me??
I am trying a couple of ROMs based on windows mobile 6.5.3 and 6.5.5
I noticed that the input selector arrow is missing (keyboard > right side).
So how to make the selection between different input methods? I can't find any manuals online.
Sometimes the options which were available in earlier version (Text Input Settigns, Phone Keypad, Compact Qwerty, About) do appear if I tap twice (quick tapping) sometimes they do not...I am puzzled.
Please can someone point me to the right usage of the new keyboard icon (bottom centre)?
Thanks
Saulo
I noticed that If I tap and hold then a new window appear : "Touch Input"... but this does not solve my puzzle: how to make the keyboard appears and then disappears? (just clisk for 1/3 of seconds) How to make the option appear? it seems too random...
I found my solution: the latest Xanny ROM!
Yes this ROM does provide a new WM 6.5.3 optimized keyboard icon: if I press for less than 1/3 of sec the keyboard layout is toggled (on and off). It is fine.
If I press for 1/2 sec, then the menu of options appear. Xanny improvements is here: there is a button on the bottom line (CLOSE) which is NOT present in all other wm6.5.3 ROMs that I have tested...This CLOSE Button does effectively provide a way to revert to the Keyboard layout.
Anyway, any other feedbacks?
Thanks
Saulo
no guys, it is like with wm6.5 but the arrow to choose keyboard is not visible.
What i want to say is that if you click lower right part of the icon it will show the keyboard selector and the rest of it will hide/show keyb.
regards
The input selector arrow is not a part of 6.5.x UI, it has never been. It was replaced by longpress on SIP button. Of course when longpress is already used (by Sense), this is an issue... But it is not a bug of 6.5.x
Thanks Tryde.
Is there a way to completely disable SENSE, so we can avoid conflicts on the icon selector?
Another questions (a bit off topic): if not possible to disable SENSE, at least can we disable HTC Messaging? I wish to use the keyboard with old fashion Microsoft TXT and SMS messaging.
thanks
Saulo
saulo866 said:
Thanks Tryde.
Is there a way to completely disable SENSE, so we can avoid conflicts on the icon selector?
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I may be wrong (not using 6.5.x at the moment), but if you use a third party keyboard (finger keyboard for example), it should disable this popup. Have you tried ?
Possible solution
I have found another possible solution. If you disable the change of SIP, the menu will not appear and there is no troubles with hiding the keyboard.
I disabled SIP menu in registry by changing HKLM\Software\HTC\ezsip\EnableSipMenu to 0.
Little disadvantage is that now you can't change your keyboard. (But if you are using still the one like me, there is no problem.)
Let me now, if it helps you.
I am justing trying with some of the keyboards on my HTC Touch Diamond2.
I have installed the following keyboards.
1. SBP Full keyboard,
2. Touchpal
3. HappyKeyboard
4. Swype
5. Resco.
I will uninstall and keep any one of it, after whichever is convenient for me. I am facing the following problem with respect to it.
1. My keyboard (not on swype,HTC default keyboard) is not poping up and it's not visible and even I can't open new SMS/mail window. Once I have done the soft reset only it's resolving.
What i noticed is whenever I am having such an issue, I am going to Settings >> Personal >> Input and check the "Input Method" and it's displaying as "Touch Input" instead of whatever I have selected previously. Even chaning the "Input Method" is not reflecting and need to do sofe reset.
For example: I have selected the SBP full keyboard and it's working fine and after some times, I am opening my phone and going to open the new SMS/new email message and it's not opening the keyboard and symbol is also showing SBP full keyboard and when I clicking the symbol the keyboard is not displaying at all and I need to soft reset.
And in this case Settings >> Personal >> Input >> "Input Method" is displying as "Touch Input" where it should be "SBP Full Keyboard". I don't hoe it's automatically chaning.
2. I don't know how to set the particular keyboard as default.
For example: I am selecting the SPB keyboard and after some times if I am doing soft reset, then the default keyboard is set.
Please help on to advice on this..any one is facing such issues.
Try remapping a button to open up the input panel, inconvenient, but it should work. Otherwise try a hard reset, and if that doesn't work: try a different ROM
Try remapping a button to open up the input panel, inconvenient, but it should work.
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I am not getting it. You mean to say to click on the keyboard sign to bring it up the keyboard or change the keyboard? please advice
Hi All
Bit of a silly problem this.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with a Windows embedded handheld ROM a couple of years ago. I haven't used this phone for ages and have no idea which ROM I flashed.
Anyway, it all worked fine until one day, I found I was using the compact keyboard (2 letters / key) and I cant find a way to get rid of it and return to the normal keyboard)
IIRC originally there was an input selector icon below the keyboard. But on this ROM all I get below the keyboard are
Windows, Done, Keyboard, cancel, OK
I've tried settings>personal>Input where this is an option for phone keypad and compact qwerty but it is not selected and changing it seems to make no difference to the keyboard in use.
Its driving me nuts so can anyone tell me how I get my regular keyboard back?
TFAI
tap & hold perhaps to top of keyboard icon or slightly to left or right perhaps !
If only . . . .!!
I've almost worn a hole in that part of the screen!!
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open .
If all fails you could do a search for a sip selector tool that can be used for toggling through sips or use sipchange & select sip you want & set delay to 8sec & soft reboot & it should have loaded your chosen sip once booted.
Mister B said:
Normally it tap & hold for about half a second slightly to right on the keyboard.
Perhaps try it with keyboard open or closed.
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Tap and hold to the right brought up a Text Input settgins window (hopeful but closer examination showed it onoy contained XT9 settings, a tutorial on text input and 'Symbol Lock' + 'Typing Sound'
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Could also try tap & slide to left on keyboard icon with keyboard open ..
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That brought up a single small pane which had 'Touch Input' and a green circle.
Then touch and hold that made it go away
Then touch to the left of the keyboard icon produced the desired menu !!
I mean WoW, how is anyine supposed to work that out!!!
Anyway I donwloaded the cab in case I get stuck again
Thanks for the advice
Glad you worked it out :-S
Is a bit out of the usual on your ROM.
Really needed a more detailed sip icon so was intuitive of left/right tap zones :-/
Most proper roms have htc ezsip built in which also can have a shortcut in programs for activating a full sip selection menu.
if you decide you want a change/improvement I would recommend the NRG custom ROM, link below should you ever want try it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bhh47jlowm9zph6/Energy.Leo.23699.Sense2.5.Reference.Nov.24.7z
Another one I remembered for sip selection was vjsipswitch.
this pops up a sip menu from shortcut in programs, you can also make advanced shortcuts to select specific sip or have toggle effect
cab & thread link below to round this thread off nicely for anyone who stumbles on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486655