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new xperia arc user, successfully unlocked bootloader and rooted phone, installed titanium backup and busybox, and removed some preinstalled apps, however whatsapp still showing as being installed , even though titanium no longer showing it as listed, any ideas. if i click on app, it launches as normal?
That happens sometimes and you have to do it manually by going into system apps and remove it. Reason, I am not sure.
thanks, sorted it be reinstalling from marketplace then uninstalling again with titanium, after reboot its successfully gone
i have this kind of prob on others apps also..
i uninstalled it at the market place
is whats app a system app, as wanted to remove it and I can do is remove updates ?
Cheers
Payneardo
Its Very Easy....
1) Use Greenify (We All know About it)
Second Method Is Below.
>Go To
A)Settings
B)Apps
C)Click Any Apps And Select Any Pre Installed App
(Ex.. Google Play Games or Any other app which you Use Rarely)
Now click Disable To Disable It...
Tadaaa its Done.. Now Disable what u want And Save More Battry And Ram.
You Can Also Enable It. :beer:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
Using App Quarantine myself to disable unwanted apps.
If you are rooted you can even freeze apps that usually can not be frozen.
After a restart the apps remain frozen.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Itz For NoN Rooted User (Noob)
Sent from my XT1033
maurocds said:
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
bookworth said:
No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
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so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You can not disable critical system apps. Just try and you will see.
You can disable apps same way from Android too, it is feature.
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what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
iluvatrix said:
what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
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Then you kill play and bunch of other features, not a good idea.
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was just using GSF as a quick example
but back to my original question is it better to enable ALL apps before taking OTA to avoid possible failure?
or will disabled apps still be "seen" during OTA updating?
i have disabled most Motorola apps that can be disabled are they considered critical when updating thru Motorola OTA?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You don't delete anything. You just tell the system not to start or use those apps. And as a worst case scenario, if you screw up something so bad that you can't even use the phone (but by default you cannot disable really critical apps without root and 3rd party software), a factory reset will solve it.
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
Becareful with system applications!
I agree with the previous post...don't remove system applications unless you know it's not going to be linked to anything of use to you, and even then I would do a backup just in-case...having a broken installation of android simply due to having deleted some system app in an attempt to save a few MB of RAM would be...unfortunate.
juliatan said:
Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
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lol really? you better use an iphone
i remove system apps of all my cell phone, and guess what, they work perfect, never had issues
and if i did someday i don't care, why? because you are root, you can recover roms, flash, upgrade, etc
and yes, i give advice to people who bricked their phones and give guides and methods of doing it, because bricking phones and recovering them it part of learning
As far as I know one can't re-size the partitions of a I9509... But there is a huge amount of lost space in system partition specially when on a debloated custom ROM.
Therefore I thought isn't there a way to simply install apps to system partition and keep them (automatically) updated there either... Is there a solution for that?
Or any other idea how to use that senseless wasted space?
Thx a lot!
You could use Titanium Backup to make apps into system apps. But it could make them malfunction.
I'm using Link2SD. It has a free option to integrate system app updates into system or turn a user app into a system app.
TB needs the paid version for that.
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Interesting, means when I change a user app into system app it will updatr normally through play store in normal storage but then link2sd can integrate it into that system app...
Is that done in a batch procedure or do I have to do it for every app by myself?
Yeah, I would do that with ES file explorer but still one would have to update the apps manually what means a lot of work because the updates would be installed in normal storage for normal system apps...
Titanium Backup has an "Integrate update into app" option that moves the update to the app folder
link2sd is single apps, even plus Beware of google play services and/or services Framework, integrating their updates can cause annoying failure loops sometimes leading to pulling the battery to reboot. I tend to do them last or solo as a result. Tasker might be able to do the job for bulk or automatic, I haven't used it much, so idk.
Have no problem integrating GPServices or PlayStore into system on stock firmware. Doing it on GPE for example makes the playstore unusable.
As for the batch option there isn't one but the system updates are not that frequent to need this option
Hello!
At first, I am sorry that I have so many questions this week, but I need a final solution with my phone.
I used to use some custom ROMs which didn't satisfy me, so I decided to stay on rooted stock rom and just delete the apps I don't need, as I did on my former phones.
Everything runs fine until I start deleting unnecessary apps.
I get a boot loop everytime I deleted apps, even if they are non system apps (like flashlight etc).
I stucks on the motorola logo and stays there, no matter what I deleted.
Anyone who made the same, without boot loop?
And because of that I have a second question, when I backup my system with TWRP, will everything be saved including Whatsapp Messages etc?
Or do I have to re-register my Whatsapp Account after restoring backup?
Thanks in advance
For, 2nd question, Whatsapp account and messages are saved on /DATA Partition, restoring /data will probably Restore your Google/Whatsapp/Other accounts as well installed user apps and their data too,.... Your saved games and whatever it was before backup, you will get same....
And why you are removing System apps..? If it gives you bootloops, Simply just disable them in settings > Apps....
__Madddy said:
And why you are removing System apps..? If it gives you bootloops, Simply just disable them in settings > Apps....
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Thank you!
Because I want a simple rom, I don't want data of unused apps left on my phone, just of personal reasons.
It's like you have a keylogger or virus on your computer and just saying, "yeah I juxt disable it, that's enough"
I don't care about free space by deleting system apps, I just want to get rid of them because I don't like them
That's why I delete them with a root file manager, and I was always driven good with that way, but since I got the Moto G4, it ain't working no more without boot loop.
Yupp, i also did it with root File Manager.... It was simple to remove system apps till Android 4.4 KitKat, just navigate to System > apps find .apk and delete... But after it, in 5.1 Lollipop, they did change that structure and it became hard...
What i did till now is flash ROM and directly Remove system apps from Custom Recovery, then go for first boot.... During First boot it does optimization of system apps, so remove app before it get optimized or whatever process being done.....
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Yupp, i also did it with root File Manager.... It was simple to remove system apps till Android 4.4 KitKat, just navigate to System > apps find .apk and delete... But after it, in 5.1 Lollipop, they did change that structure and it became hard...
What i did till now is flash ROM and directly Remove system apps from Custom Recovery, then go for first boot.... During First boot it does optimization of system apps, so remove app before it get optimized or whatever process being done.....
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Yes, that's what I'm doing to.
Flashing stock rom, rooting, downloading root file manager, delete apps from /system/app and /system/priv-app, but whatever I delete there, the stock rom stucks in a boot loop, at first I thought it was build in by motorola, but that wouldn't even make sense..
Currently Running busy, will try removing system apps in my device and tell you what to do....?
HE4VYCR0WN said:
Thank you!
Because I want a simple rom, I don't want data of unused apps left on my phone, just of personal reasons.
It's like you have a keylogger or virus on your computer and just saying, "yeah I juxt disable it, that's enough"
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Removing system apps is always iffy and sometimes not recommended. And no it's not like a keylogger or virus at all. I know you don't want them but you can expect problems on your quest.
I recently realized that since October, I can't uninstall my system apps such Calendar, Calculator, FM Radio, etc.
I used EU & MIUI Kosmos ROM and both gave the same result. I usually freeze them on Titanum Backup, then Uninstalled them, then reboot my phone. But after rebooted, the apps kept going back. I tried to uninstalled them with another apps such Root uninstaller, Root app deleter, successfully uninstalled, but when I tried to rebooted the phone it was boot-looped.
So, now I can only disable them through the Titanium Backup. I rooted my phone with Magisk, and I checked the two advanced option in Magisk Manager [Preserve Force Encryption & Preserve AVB 2.0/dm-verity.
Anyone knows why that happened? And how can I properly uninstall those system apps like usual?
Is the checked choices on the Magisk Manager be the cause?
aschleon said:
I recently realized that since October, I can't uninstall my system apps such Calendar, Calculator, FM Radio, etc.
I used EU & MIUI Kosmos ROM and both gave the same result. I usually freeze them on Titanum Backup, then Uninstalled them, then reboot my phone. But after rebooted, the apps kept going back. I tried to uninstalled them with another apps such Root uninstaller, Root app deleter, successfully uninstalled, but when I tried to rebooted the phone it was boot-looped.
So, now I can only disable them through the Titanium Backup. I rooted my phone with Magisk, and I checked the two advanced option in Magisk Manager [Preserve Force Encryption & Preserve AVB 2.0/dm-verity.
Anyone knows why that happened? And how can I properly uninstall those system apps like usual?
Is the checked choices on the Magisk Manager be the cause?
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Yesterday i flashed Hellas Miui and faced the same problem. I tried to debloat using debloater magisk module and it showed successful but after rebooting the apps were still there.
I googled a bit and found out that we need to disable all magisk modules before uninstalling system apps.
Then i successfully uninstalled mi video and weather using "System App Remover (Root Needed)" from playstore.
Try debloat via adb
There are several topics about that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...loat-redmi-note-7-miui-10-3-5-0-root-t3928466
I had the same problems a month back. I used to uninstall apps using titanium but that doesn't work now and root uninstaller sends the phone to fastboot. The terminal solutions only disables them.
After a lot of research I found a solution.
1. You must be rooted
2. Install any root browser (I used root explorer)
3. Go to
System/apps
System/ priv apps
System/ product / apps
System/ product/ priv apps
All the suckers are there, delete the ones bugging u (u should know what u r deleting, at ur own risk)
5. Reboot and voila :good: