How to install apps to system partition and keep them update to save space? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As far as I know one can't re-size the partitions of a I9509... But there is a huge amount of lost space in system partition specially when on a debloated custom ROM.
Therefore I thought isn't there a way to simply install apps to system partition and keep them (automatically) updated there either... Is there a solution for that?
Or any other idea how to use that senseless wasted space?
Thx a lot!

You could use Titanium Backup to make apps into system apps. But it could make them malfunction.

I'm using Link2SD. It has a free option to integrate system app updates into system or turn a user app into a system app.
TB needs the paid version for that.

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Interesting, means when I change a user app into system app it will updatr normally through play store in normal storage but then link2sd can integrate it into that system app...
Is that done in a batch procedure or do I have to do it for every app by myself?

Yeah, I would do that with ES file explorer but still one would have to update the apps manually what means a lot of work because the updates would be installed in normal storage for normal system apps...

Titanium Backup has an "Integrate update into app" option that moves the update to the app folder

link2sd is single apps, even plus Beware of google play services and/or services Framework, integrating their updates can cause annoying failure loops sometimes leading to pulling the battery to reboot. I tend to do them last or solo as a result. Tasker might be able to do the job for bulk or automatic, I haven't used it much, so idk.

Have no problem integrating GPServices or PlayStore into system on stock firmware. Doing it on GPE for example makes the playstore unusable.
As for the batch option there isn't one but the system updates are not that frequent to need this option

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WiFi Calling / Freeing up System ROM

I guess this is a misplaced post...but I'm a forum newb and have no posting privileges in the developers forums yet...
From the Nexus One Developers Forum -- Post: [ADDON] T-Mobile WiFi Calling for CyanogenMod 7.0.0 --
"That's not the kind of memory He is talking about. The 228 megs is your RAM. HE IS TALKING ABOUT SYSTEM ROM MEMORY. You can find this info if you look at TITANIUM BACKUP, on the bottom, one of the numbers will be system ROM (as in the partition used for the ROM). The N1 doesn't have much system memory. It can cause issues if you have less than ten mb.
Edit: there are other ways (probably more accurate) to find this info also but, titanium backup is the easiest.
Sent from my NS running NSCollab 1.0.32 cuz I. STILL can't find my tin cans and string ...."
i used root explorer,went in and deleted a bunch of **** i dont use in system/app and i be damned if it didnt work. thanks heaps dude
...so here's my problem...When I fire up Ti Backup I see:
System ROM: 152MB (729kB free)
Internal: 205MB (148 MB free)
SD Card: 7.93 GB (4.01 GB free)
This is after updating to the latest nightly of CM7, and clearing everything but the apps I'm not likely to give up for WiFi calling. My internal space went way up, but there was no change to system rom, which leads me to believe I don't understand what folks were talking about when they refer to system ROM.
How do I go about freeing up 10 MB system rom? It apparently isn't done by deleting apps...
Thanks!
System/apps.
I think more specifically, you have to delete apps that are part of the rom you are running.
best way to see exactly which apps are in the system rom is to use astro.
I just hit up, up until I get to system, then I go to apps.
example. I have torch, as part of the rom I'm using (E-extremeMod 2.0), Using the app manager, i can't uninstall it.(under the all apps setting),.It's part of the ROM. You have to go through a ROM before installing, and delete items you don't want installed.or use Titanium backup.
Titanium backup can force remove the app, using the recovery exploit, but I haven't done it yet. Hard press on the app in the backup/restore area.
I use titanium to delete system apps.
White-user's apps
Red- System's apps
Green- System's apps with useful data (i wouldn't delete anything green).
Use small gapps and down load google apps from market so its installed in data/app instead of system/app.
I deleted also these system apps:
-Adw launcher since I use Adw Ex
-cm wallpapers
-news and weather
-file manager since I use astro and root ex.
-home screen tips
-a few others that I don't use

[Solution] Applications and games owned by this account will appear here

I have had this issue for a very long time and could not find a lasting and solid solution. After researching the problem for a few weeks I found a solution that worked for me, finally.
The issue seems to have triggered when I used the Titanium Backup Pro Market tools to unlink and link apps to my market account and system apps were added by accident. This should work with any app that can link and unlink apps to and from the Market.
Here is the step-by-step solution for TB Pro:
1) Go to Market Tools -> Market Doctor and Unlink all User & System apps.
2) Reboot device.
3) Open any Root Explorer or Browser and locate and delete the file "market_assets.db" in "/data/data/com.android.vending/databases".
4) Reboot device.
5) Go to TB Pro and to Market Tools -> Market Doctor -> User Apps and link all the User Apps that you installed on your device from the Android Market. Make sure that no System App is linked.
6) Reboot device.
Then the apps you have linked to your account will appear again in Your Apps of the Market after a few minutes. If they do not then install a new free app or a free app that you had previously installed and uninstalled and your apps should appear soon.
In my case I had used all proposed solutions with no luck and this was the only solid solution. I used TB Pro and Root Browser Lite to do this. You could probably use MyBackup for free (30 days trial) to do the same process but if you had this issues chances are that you already have an app that can unlink and link apps from the market.
I hope this sorts out your issue too
Edit 6 FEB 2012: This solution is temporary unfortunately. The cause of the problem is linking apps to the market that were not downloaded from the market or linking to the market from a backup that is quite old/corrupted. To sort this out there is an app now and you can find it from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22178757&postcount=162
It is called Market Fixer and it detects market links that are problematic and removes them to restore the My Apps functionality in the Market.
Cool thanks, I had already found that solution by myself and it works fine, but doesn't survive a hard reset, meaning everytime I flash a new rom with full wipe the problem comes back and I have to go through this again...
I tried to use another account with a full wipe and no problem, so my account must be screwed for life.
Thanks titanium
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Also, with market enabler I can see paid apps and even install previous bought apps but cannot buy anything.
With 2 accounts setup at the same time, I can mysteriously buy apps !!!
If I delete the second account, bam, I can't buy anymore.
Looks like the simple presence of a "clean" account sorts things out for the corrupted one...
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Latoc said:
Also, with market enabler I can see paid apps and even install previous bought apps but cannot buy anything.
With 2 accounts setup at the same time, I can mysteriously buy apps !!!
If I delete the second account, bam, I can't buy anymore.
Looks like the simple presence of a "clean" account sorts things out for the corrupted one...
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This hasn't occurred to me at any point. I can always purchase apps from the Market.
Vrayhem said:
I have had this issue for a very long time and could not find a lasting and solid solution. After researching the problem for a few weeks I found a solution that worked for me, finally.
The issue seems to have triggered when I used the Titanium Backup Pro Market tools to unlink and link apps to my market account and system apps were added by accident. This should work with any app that can link and unlink apps to and from the Market.
Here is the step-by-step solution for TB Pro:
1) Go to Market Tools -> Market Doctor and Unlink all User & System apps.
2) Reboot device.
3) Open any Root Explorer or Browser and locate and delete the file "market_assets.db" in "/data/data/com.android.vending/databases".
4) Reboot device.
5) Go to TB Pro and to Market Tools -> Market Doctor -> User Apps and link all the User Apps that you installed on your device from the Android Market. Make sure that no System App is linked.
6) Reboot device.
Then the apps you have linked to your account will appear again in Your Apps of the Market after a few minutes. If they do not then install a new free app or a free app that you had previously installed and uninstalled and your apps should appear soon.
In my case I had used all proposed solutions with no luck and this was the only solid solution. I used TB Pro and Root Browser Lite to do this. You could probably use MyBackup for free (30 days trial) to do the same process but if you had this issues chances are that you already have an app that can unlink and link apps from the market.
I hope this sorts out your issue too
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This solution fixed the problem for me (for the time being). Thanks!!!
Vrayhem said:
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3) Open any Root Explorer or Browser and locate and delete the file "market_assets.db" in "/data/data/com.android.vending/databases".
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Strange ...
I could not find the "maket_assets.db" in the indicated folder.
Worse ! I could find the databases folder !
ledbrv said:
Strange ...
I could not find the "maket_assets.db" in the indicated folder.
Worse ! I could find the databases folder !
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This is strange. Are you looking in the internal SD card? What rom are you running and which version of the Market you have installed?
Vrayhem said:
This is strange. Are you looking in the internal SD card? What rom are you running and which version of the Market you have installed?
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I am using Root Explorer. From "/" i navigate to "/data/data/com.android.vending/".
At that folder is see these sub-folders:
app_carrier_billing
app_sslcache
app_uri_url_map
cache
lib
But there is no databases sub-folder.
I am using DarkyROM 10.4.2 and Market version is 3.4.4.
@Vrayhem
I'm not sure yet but it seems to work.
I had too much disappointment to excite me too.
But thank you very much for your job.
@ledbrv
What root browser to you use?
If it is ES Explorer you can't search file in root system with it.
Choose "Root Browser Lite"
Bye
ledbrv said:
I am using Root Explorer. From "/" i navigate to "/data/data/com.android.vending/".
At that folder is see these sub-folders:
app_carrier_billing
app_sslcache
app_uri_url_map
cache
lib
But there is no databases sub-folder.
I am using DarkyROM 10.4.2 and Market version is 3.4.4.
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You are missing the folders databases and shared_prefs then. What happens if you try to create an empty folder there called databases?
Alternatively you can search for the file "market_assets.db" to see where it is saved at. Root browser lite has both search and create new folder functions.
I use Root Explorer.
I created the "databases" folder under /data/data/com.android.vending/ and rebooted. Nothing happened. No files appeared inside databases. Then I "Force stop" and "Clear data" of Market app and reboot. After that databases folder disappears again.
ledbrv said:
I use Root Explorer.
I created the "databases" folder under /data/data/com.android.vending/ and rebooted. Nothing happened. No files appeared inside databases. Then I "Force stop" and "Clear data" of Market app and reboot. After that databases folder disappears again.
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This can only be explained by the fact that you are using a custom rom which is probably based on a previous stock rom than the one we have or it has been modified to affect that part of the market.
I also had an Android Market account corruption where apps I never purchased or never downloaded appeared in my apps when I logged into my account on the PC. Some of those apps would appear under my Apps in the Market for a long time. What I did was flash the latest rom XLA4 with Mobile Odin Pro (to not lose root), flash the CF root kernel to restore CWM functionality, wipe internal sd card/apps/data/factory reset/dalvik cache, install all the apps I wanted through the Android Market account on my PC and then follow the procedure I mention in my first post here. Now (today in fact) I checked my Android Market account online and all the "fake" apps are gone, the duplicates are gone and everything is in place. Also the Market on my phone is working great with no issues and all the apps I linked are there.
Hi,
One day after the changes, the market on my phone is still working great with no issues.
Just a point, system applications are considered not installed.
It seems to me that before this kind of application was not in the list of installed applications on the market or unable to uninstall.
Could you tell me what you think about and if I have to do something?
mich0111 said:
Hi,
One day after the changes, the market on my phone is still working great with no issues.
Just a point, system applications are considered not installed.
It seems to me that before this kind of application was not in the list of installed applications on the market or unable to uninstall.
Could you tell me what you think about and if I have to do something?
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System applications should not appear in your apps unless you updated an app like Youtube or Maps at some point, so that it will give you the option to uninstall it. You probably added them with TB Pro when you linked the apps to the market as part of the solution. I haven't added them in my case and added only the apps I have installed/bought from the market myself. Therefore, they are not in the Not Installed section.
Some apps indeed do not have the option to be uninstalled (even apps I have bought myself) but it is rare and you can still uninstall them using TB Pro.
Tried this just now on a Galaxy Nexus with ICS 4.0.2 stock rom. (Should this work on this phone too?)
Only thing I did different is I left a couple system apps (like maps etc..) checked during the restore market links in Titanium Backup...
Could this be the problem? Also after deleting the database file and rebooting, I spent about 10+ mins deselecting system and amazon apps from the restore market links, before actually running it. Did it repopulate the database before ran the fix links option and screw things up?
I tried also clearing market data to see if that would help but i did this after this fix did not work. It didn't help either.
quick_ said:
Tried this just now on a Galaxy Nexus with ICS 4.0.2 stock rom. (Should this work on this phone too?)
Only thing I did different is I left a couple system apps (like maps etc..) checked during the restore market links in Titanium Backup...
Could this be the problem? Also after deleting the database file and rebooting, I spent about 10+ mins deselecting system and amazon apps from the restore market links, before actually running it. Did it repopulate the database before ran the fix links option and screw things up?
I tried also clearing market data to see if that would help but i did this after this fix did not work. It didn't help either.
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I do not know if this fix will work with ICS. You can try it again only adding apps you actually purchased or installed free through the Market to see if that was the issue.
Vrayhem said:
I do not know if this fix will work with ICS. You can try it again only adding apps you actually purchased or installed free through the Market to see if that was the issue.
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Thanks. I did try it again like you mention and still no luck. I did however do a complete wipe and reinstalled the stock rom. Initially the market was working, until I restored user apps with data with titanium backup, then immediately I was back to the same problem.
So like you said initially, its definitely related to Titanium Backup.
Thanks,
Vrayhem,
Thank you so much for posting this solution.
I followed your instructions carefully on my fully rooted OEM Rom Atrix 2, but it did not work for me the first time. However, I performed them again, only this time, for each and every one of the reboots (I rebooted using Quick Boot ver.4.1), on the way back up I booted back up into recovery, and wiped the cache. I am not sure how that could have made a difference, but it appears to have been necessary in my case. I have not installed a custom ROM yet (was waiting for bootloader unlocking, but it's not hopeful, so I'll be using some other method).
Motorola Atrix 2
Model MB865
Market ver.3.4.4
Root Explorer ver.2.17.2
Quick Boot ver.4.1
Titanium BU Pro ver.4.7.5
System ver. 55.11.16.MB865.ATT.en.US
Android OS v.2.3.5
Kernel 2.6.35.7-gac99e44
[email protected] #1
Build Number 5.5.1-175_EDFFW1-16
======UPDATE======
Well, it worked for a few days. Somehow, it broke again on it's own. I had not messed with any market links or anything. Didn't flash anything, and didn't even muddle with any system files. Just flat out, unprovoked, snafu for no apparent reason.
meh.
Does this work across devices?
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This is very frustrating because I am having this happen more and more on different roms and even before installing titanium backup. The fix discussed here did not fix mine either. Sucks because it is only on some roms and not others.

Want to save more battry and Ram..

Its Very Easy....
1) Use Greenify (We All know About it)
Second Method Is Below.
>Go To
A)Settings
B)Apps
C)Click Any Apps And Select Any Pre Installed App
(Ex.. Google Play Games or Any other app which you Use Rarely)
Now click Disable To Disable It...
Tadaaa its Done.. Now Disable what u want And Save More Battry And Ram.
You Can Also Enable It. :beer:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
Using App Quarantine myself to disable unwanted apps.
If you are rooted you can even freeze apps that usually can not be frozen.
After a restart the apps remain frozen.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramdroid.appquarantine
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Itz For NoN Rooted User (Noob)
Sent from my XT1033
maurocds said:
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
bookworth said:
No, they will stay disabled even after OTA. Only factory reset brings them back.
Very good way for those without root.
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so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You can not disable critical system apps. Just try and you will see.
You can disable apps same way from Android too, it is feature.
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what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
iluvatrix said:
what about disabling Google Services Framework?
is this a critical system app?
i am able to disable it.
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Then you kill play and bunch of other features, not a good idea.
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was just using GSF as a quick example
but back to my original question is it better to enable ALL apps before taking OTA to avoid possible failure?
or will disabled apps still be "seen" during OTA updating?
i have disabled most Motorola apps that can be disabled are they considered critical when updating thru Motorola OTA?
iluvatrix said:
so even if critical apps are disabled on stock , locked , unrooted xt1032, OTA will still be successful?
wont fail due to missing critical system apps?
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You don't delete anything. You just tell the system not to start or use those apps. And as a worst case scenario, if you screw up something so bad that you can't even use the phone (but by default you cannot disable really critical apps without root and 3rd party software), a factory reset will solve it.
maurocds said:
dont want to be an ass
but.......
being root you can delete those system apps like google music, movies, books, etc, all that crap bloatware
i believe if you restart the phone they will be active again, so it is better to delete them, also titanium backup can freeze those apps
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Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
Becareful with system applications!
I agree with the previous post...don't remove system applications unless you know it's not going to be linked to anything of use to you, and even then I would do a backup just in-case...having a broken installation of android simply due to having deleted some system app in an attempt to save a few MB of RAM would be...unfortunate.
juliatan said:
Terrible and dumb advise.
Remove system apps and every ota on any android device from any manufacturor will crash and fail. Are you going to help clean flash stock Android back to functional for Ota's with people who followed this advise? At least advise to put system apps back before applying OTA. (One can remove system apps and install as more battery and recources friendly user-app. But before OTA uninstall those apps and copy back apk's of those system apps).
But like said disable apps (also non-root) or freeze (only root) them solution. With Greenify Pro and Xposed Framework (root) one can Greenify (do not all but only for system non important) system apps. Without root Greenify can (when Greenify enabled in accesibilty options) force close all in Greenify by user defined unwanted still in background running user apps all at once with a shortcut. Not fake like every task killer in Play Store is.
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lol really? you better use an iphone
i remove system apps of all my cell phone, and guess what, they work perfect, never had issues
and if i did someday i don't care, why? because you are root, you can recover roms, flash, upgrade, etc
and yes, i give advice to people who bricked their phones and give guides and methods of doing it, because bricking phones and recovering them it part of learning

[Q] Lollipop, /system partition almost full

Hi all,
I updated my Nexus 7 to lollipop using the factory image (just to have a fresh start ..), but I noticed the available free space on /system partition is just a few Mb's.
After rooting (just superSu, no busybox) available space is 1.7 Mb and after editing the hosts file it is just 700 kb. I deleted the ringer tones (quite useless on a wifi only tablet) and that gave me 2.5 Mb of extra room. Any other tip to increase the /system free space ? The partition is typically read-only, but is it dangerous to be so low on free space ?
I'm afraid that could pose an issue on future upgrade, do you think google might consider re-partitioning the internal flash ?
thanks
bye
The above are reasonable questions.
Not being an expert, I wonder how much file system manipulation may be accomplished with an "in place" update.
I don't think the lack of file system headroom is a problem.
For upgrades down the road, cross that bridge when and if you get there. This device is not likely to receive another major update such as this.
I too deleted all my ringtone files save one. Also, I froze certain Google apps I'm unlikely to use. No ill effects that I can see.
With only 670 Mb of /system partition google has to decide what is in and what is out: as an example the launcher is still the old basic one because it has a smaller footprint. My Nexus 5 has googleNow launcher by default because its /system partition is 1 GB (and only 40Mb free). There will be a moment when the system files will not fit in 670 Mb and the nexus 7 will be abandoned ...
Sure the tablet is 2 years old and lollipop is very likely the last update, but I hope it will still be eligible for a 5.1 update (if any).
bye
Enrico
maybe something related with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-fix-internal-storage-16gb-8gb-t2033692
No, that is a different issue (which I also had and fixed with a factory reset). The /system partition is 670 Mb by google design and it is filled with system files.
For Google, 3 Mb of free space is more than enough, but if you have to root and/or do other changes, that might be a problem.
bye
i deleted all the programs in system that could be installed from the play store. even launcher since i installed the Now launcher.
Freed up a lot of system space and seems to have stopped most of the system lag.
I deleted the Maps and Chrome APKs, it looks like the updated versions of those google apps went into /data anyway so it wasn't needed in /system
I deleted some gapps with titanium (chrome, documents, "edicola" i don't know english name) but at reboot I have a lot of system UI error, so I return back to 4.4.4.
How I have to use for delete unwanted system apps?
Thanks!
When it comes to perceived or measured performance, it is inconsequential for a read-only filesystem to be nearly full. And /system is designed to be mounted read only - so there are no processes trying to write things there anyway.
It only matters to folks who might want to add additional content to the /system partition - and even then only at the moment of that operation; even if they fill it to 100% capacity, that will not cause a single performance issue.
Move along folks - nothing to see here.
Performed a full clean install last night, there was some lag. I rebooted a few times left it idle for a while but no difference. I'm doing this as I want to install Phantom kernel and move to F2FS which apparently needs a little more space free. So I moved some apps out of system to data and the difference was instant and noticeable.
bftb0 said:
When it comes to perceived or measured performance, it is inconsequential for a read-only filesystem to be nearly full. And /system is designed to be mounted read only - so there are no processes trying to write things there anyway.
It only matters to folks who might want to add additional content to the /system partition - and even then only at the moment of that operation; even if they fill it to 100% capacity, that will not cause a single performance issue.
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That is exactly my feelings, I do not care if currently I have left only few Mb AFTER rooting and other tweaks, the partition is read-only and nobody is writing there during normal operation. After the initial adjustments, the tablet is smooth and runs fine even if the partition is nearly full.
I'm worried about future upgrades (if any): if an OTA fails because there is not enough space to update the /system partition (due to customised extra files) and/or after the OTA upgrade there is no room to add the superSu app to root ... then we are in trouble.
bye
Enrico
enryfox said:
I'm worried about future upgrades (if any): if an OTA fails because there is not enough space to update the /system partition (due to customised extra files) and/or after the OTA upgrade there is no room to add the superSu app to root ... then we are in trouble.
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If the current OTA update is how future OTA updates will be installed (and there's no reason to suggest it's not) then any change you make to System will cause the OTA to fail, even if you change back everything. Meaning it will fail, not because it ran out of space because of the customized files you mentioned, but because it was tinkered with even the slightest bit.
So if the OTA behavior is like the current one, then do whatever you want to System, delete stuff, fill it up to the brim, doesn't matter because come next OTA time you'll have to flash the stock system image file anyway, if you wanna keep your data, or flash the then new stock firmware entirely, like you did this time.
dtg7 said:
If the current OTA update is how future OTA updates will be installed (and there's no reason to suggest it's not) then any change you make to System will cause the OTA to fail, even if you change back everything. Meaning it will fail, not because it ran out of space because of the customized files you mentioned, but because it was tinkered with even the slightest bit.
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Actually I started with a rooted 4.4.4 and sideloaded the 5.0 OTA: it worked and the the update was applied successfully. My problem was that /system was really full to the brim, with 0 bytes left and that is way I applied the factory image. With current grouper 5.0 official image there is simply not enough space to root, install busybox and change the hosts file, we need to make some room to get all three tweak's.
I'm surprised future OTA's will not work simply because we tinkered with system files; until now I always applied new OTA's over rooted system files and they always worked (from 4.3 all the way up to 4.4.4).
bye
Enrico
enryfox said:
Hi all,
I updated my Nexus 7 to lollipop using the
factory image (just to have a fresh start ..)
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enryfox said:
Actually I started with a rooted 4.4.4 and sideloaded the 5.0 OTA: it worked and the the update was applied successfully.
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Kind of conflicting statements there...
Anyway here's what I understood about Lollipop OTAs: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...e-means-update-will-fail-system-modified-way/
So in conclusion I'm just gonna do whatever to system and flash stock system when next OTA comes around.
dtg7 said:
Kind of conflicting statements there...
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no Conflicts here :
enryfox said:
Actually I started with a rooted 4.4.4 and sideloaded the 5.0 OTA: it worked and the the update was applied successfully. My problem was that /system was really full to the brim, with 0 bytes left and that is way I applied the factory image.
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the OTA + root process left me with a /system partition full and there was no way to free space (I do not know why) so I had to restore the factory image.
The new OTA policy, as for my experience, does not apply to the our Nexus 7: the android 5.0 OTA applied to my rooted nexus7 flawlessly; if it wasn't for the rooting process filling up the /system partition, I would have kept it as it was.
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i think same Problems in my moto g 5.0.2 LP stock 20mb free space in /Sys.
Someone should make a deodexed stock ROM, so there'd be more free space? I'd do it myself but my PC isn't powerful enough to run the deodex tool and my upload speed is 350kb/s so I wouldn't be able to upload it anywhere (400-500MB)
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It's all the apps that the ROM flashed into the system partition. I found myself with 1MB free. I needed that space for root apps so I installed Titanium Backup and uninstalled several apps that you can grab from the Play Store. I got to 103MB free in /system.
I wasn't sure if uninstalling the foreign language keyboards would cause problems, so I left those alone. If anyone know if they can be safely removed please let me know.
Anywho, I'll list what I removed.
Chrome
YouTube
Drive
Maps
Street View
Google+
Wallet
Play Music
Sound Search
Don't forget to reboot after uninstalling. Then install from the Play Store.
LuvMyDroid said:
It's all the apps that the ROM flashed into the system partition. I found myself with 1MB free. I needed that space for root apps so I installed Titanium Backup and uninstalled several apps that you can grab from the Play Store. I got to 103MB free in /system.
I wasn't sure if uninstalling the foreign language keyboards would cause problems, so I left those alone. If anyone know if they can be safely removed please let me know.
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The foreign languade keyboards (as well as the ASUS keyboard) are among the things I've uninstalled to free up some space in the system partition. I've seen no ill effects. My system partition has about 65 MB free. Here's what I've uninstalled:
ASUS Keyboard
Docs
Google Hindi Input
Google Korean keyboard
Google Pinyin Input
Google Play Games
Hangouts
Sheets
Slides
Talkback
I confirm that, also, N7 3G is smoother than before with lollipop 5.0.2 with more space in system partition

Boot Loop because of editing the stock ROM

Hello!
At first, I am sorry that I have so many questions this week, but I need a final solution with my phone.
I used to use some custom ROMs which didn't satisfy me, so I decided to stay on rooted stock rom and just delete the apps I don't need, as I did on my former phones.
Everything runs fine until I start deleting unnecessary apps.
I get a boot loop everytime I deleted apps, even if they are non system apps (like flashlight etc).
I stucks on the motorola logo and stays there, no matter what I deleted.
Anyone who made the same, without boot loop?
And because of that I have a second question, when I backup my system with TWRP, will everything be saved including Whatsapp Messages etc?
Or do I have to re-register my Whatsapp Account after restoring backup?
Thanks in advance
For, 2nd question, Whatsapp account and messages are saved on /DATA Partition, restoring /data will probably Restore your Google/Whatsapp/Other accounts as well installed user apps and their data too,.... Your saved games and whatever it was before backup, you will get same....
And why you are removing System apps..? If it gives you bootloops, Simply just disable them in settings > Apps....
__Madddy said:
And why you are removing System apps..? If it gives you bootloops, Simply just disable them in settings > Apps....
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Thank you!
Because I want a simple rom, I don't want data of unused apps left on my phone, just of personal reasons.
It's like you have a keylogger or virus on your computer and just saying, "yeah I juxt disable it, that's enough"
I don't care about free space by deleting system apps, I just want to get rid of them because I don't like them
That's why I delete them with a root file manager, and I was always driven good with that way, but since I got the Moto G4, it ain't working no more without boot loop.
Yupp, i also did it with root File Manager.... It was simple to remove system apps till Android 4.4 KitKat, just navigate to System > apps find .apk and delete... But after it, in 5.1 Lollipop, they did change that structure and it became hard...
What i did till now is flash ROM and directly Remove system apps from Custom Recovery, then go for first boot.... During First boot it does optimization of system apps, so remove app before it get optimized or whatever process being done.....
__Madddy said:
Yupp, i also did it with root File Manager.... It was simple to remove system apps till Android 4.4 KitKat, just navigate to System > apps find .apk and delete... But after it, in 5.1 Lollipop, they did change that structure and it became hard...
What i did till now is flash ROM and directly Remove system apps from Custom Recovery, then go for first boot.... During First boot it does optimization of system apps, so remove app before it get optimized or whatever process being done.....
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Yes, that's what I'm doing to.
Flashing stock rom, rooting, downloading root file manager, delete apps from /system/app and /system/priv-app, but whatever I delete there, the stock rom stucks in a boot loop, at first I thought it was build in by motorola, but that wouldn't even make sense..
Currently Running busy, will try removing system apps in my device and tell you what to do....?
HE4VYCR0WN said:
Thank you!
Because I want a simple rom, I don't want data of unused apps left on my phone, just of personal reasons.
It's like you have a keylogger or virus on your computer and just saying, "yeah I juxt disable it, that's enough"
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Removing system apps is always iffy and sometimes not recommended. And no it's not like a keylogger or virus at all. I know you don't want them but you can expect problems on your quest.

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