OxygenOs is out - Nexus 6 General

Just saw it was released, who's porting it to the nexus 6? Sucks PA is dead for now but I'm sure oxygen will be good

Isn't oxy os just aosp with a few minor tweaks ?
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Yes it is but none the less always nice to see new things. And arnt all Roms a modified aosp? Cm,omni

I would love to see a port! And it bumped to 5.1 woohoo!

Not open source or for this device so pretty unlikely
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akellar said:
Not open source or for this device so pretty unlikely
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How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?

Frozt said:
How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
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Ever heard of touchwiz, sense, blur, etc?
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Frozt said:
How can you not open source android? Especially based off Google? Is that even legal?
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Android is open source yes however the skins, customizations and frameworks companies do to it are not.
Is there much of a need for a pott of this anyway? Its got less features than cyanogen nightlies have atm and is pretty much a very basic ROM as it stands atm. Most of the things CM12s didn't even make it over to oxygen (yet)
I do hope the PA guys can now get a new build out for everyone else soon. The gerrit had a a couple of weeks of no movement there.

Roxas598 said:
Android is open source yes however the skins, customizations and frameworks companies do to it are not.
Is there much of a need for a pott of this anyway? Its got less features than cyanogen nightlies have atm and is pretty much a very basic ROM as it stands atm. Most of the things CM12s didn't even make it over to oxygen (yet)
I do hope the PA guys can now get a new build out for everyone else soon. The gerrit had a a couple of weeks of no movement there.
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That's because they got pissed and they pulled out of XDA, I'm sure they're taking a long break from PA

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That's because they got pissed and they pulled out of XDA, I'm sure they're taking a long break from PA
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what are they pissed of? so far PA is doing quite well then suddenly development stopped from 5.0 onwards.
Looks very AOSP to me now, only a few minor tweaks.
hope someone could port this!

bradputt said:
what are they pissed of? so far PA is doing quite well then suddenly development stopped from 5.0 onwards.
Looks very AOSP to me now, only a few minor tweaks.
hope someone could port this!
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I don't know anything about this particular situation but my read is that they got an actual paying job to make Oxygen so PA got put on the back burner. If they got hit by some flank on XDA over some issues it would further drive them into paid work vs unpaid as PA is a very non-funded project. I doubt we'll see a port of this. The big push from OnePlus with going with there own custom OS was some mix of butthurt about cyanogen and the ability to further control the OS/have unique features. I am also very certain that there job contract will exclude them from being able to 'port' features from OxygenOS back into PA or some other rom.

There is literally nothing unique to OxygenOS this early in the game. It's AOSP with QS customizations and the gestures from ColorOS.

akellar said:
Ever heard of touchwiz, sense, blur, etc?
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Aren't those skins?

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Aren't those skins?
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Same as OxygenOS, yes

My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.

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My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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They already said they won't I believe.

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My question is, do they plan on releasing the code for the open source community? if not will all the trolls and flamers who said cygn was super evil for not releasing source to CM11S, do the same here? Of course not because hating CM is cool. I lost lot of respect for the PA devs after their continued CM bashing over the last few months, continually pointing out how CM11S source was never released, yet it will be the same with oxygenos.
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I don't see a reason why they would release anything other than finished builds at this point.

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I don't see a reason why they would release anything other than finished builds at this point.
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because android is open and their devs preached how cyanogen was breaking the mold of open android, yet they do the exact same?

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because android is open and their devs preached how cyanogen was breaking the mold of open android, yet they do the exact same?
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They just have no business sense. Now that they're getting paid to code, they understand they don't own the code they produce, the people that pay them for their work own it. Same thing with Cyanogen, they can't get investors to put money into software that is publicly published or it isn't worth anything. Problem with that situation is that a lot of CM commits were made by the community not solely by the guys who started it.

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They just have no business sense. Now that they're getting paid to code, they understand they don't own the code they produce, the people that pay them for their work own it. Same thing with Cyanogen, they can't get investors to put money into software that is publicly published or it isn't worth anything. Problem with that situation is that a lot of CM commits were made by the community not solely by the guys who started it.
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trust me, i agree with what you just said. I have preached that to the zealots who wanted to flame cyanogen, like you said it wasnt cyanogens code to share because of the deal with one plus. No one seemed to understand that.

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No Custom ROMs for Honeycomb

Well via to an article over at Android Central, and Bloomberg: Business Week, its been said by Google that they wont be releasing the source code for Honeycomb. The reasoning behind it apparently is to keep your small time, crap companies, from trying to put 3.0.x onto a device and giving android a bad rep. So I dont think we will be seeing any ROMs until Ice cream.
Source: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2011/tc20110324_269784.htm
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-not-open-sourcing-honeycomb-says-bloomberg
Google Holds Honeycomb Tight
It will delay distribution of new Android tablet source code to outside programmers
We'll get it eventually..
Eventually we may but they are saying they dont want craplet devices coming out that aren't intended to run HC. Yea I can see them releasing the source code, after they get a version of this new style android that runs on phones and tables, AKA ice cream. They also say that it wont be release in the foreseeable future, I take this as dont loose sleep waiting for it.
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Eventually we may but they are saying they dont want craplet devices coming out that aren't intended to run HC. Yea I can see them releasing the source code, after they get a version of this new style android that runs on phones and tables, AKA ice cream. They also say that it wont be release in the foreseeable future, I take this as dont loose sleep waiting for it.
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+1
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I Saw somewhere that they are only holding the source code back from the masses to ****up. you can still request & sign for the source code if you ask google directly.
IANAL, but if the owner of the source code decides not to publish, isn't that their right? regardless what "Licence" they publish it under?
When it comes to preventing carriers from putting money sucking spamware on your phone googles "that would jepordize the very definition of open source". But when it comes to releasing the source code for developers to smooth out and patch their half baked OS so each consumer (who paid an unwarranted premium for their device in the first place) can have the free choice of how they would like their "open source" OS to function googles.
Say it aint so.
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I think people need to relax on this issue. Google will release it when they are ready. Either way I can almost guarantee that it will be leaked. The Dev community always gets what I needs. To be honest it is a little annoying that the android community freaks out over everything. Everyone just relax. I am going to go back to enjoying my Xoom.
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I Saw somewhere that they are only holding the source code back from the masses to ****up. you can still request & sign for the source code if you ask google directly.
IANAL, but if the owner of the source code decides not to publish, isn't that their right? regardless what "Licence" they publish it under?
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Not if they have already distributed product using it. AKA Xoom.
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I think people need to relax on this issue. Google will release it when they are ready. Either way I can almost guarantee that it will be leaked. The Dev community always gets what I needs. To be honest it is a little annoying that the android community freaks out over everything. Everyone just relax. I am going to go back to enjoying my Xoom.
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I believe this is not just a simple issue.. leaked <> AOSP
one thing for sure, if we don't have HC AOSP, never expect custom rom..
this android open source is going into nightmare .. Google please remember this "Don't be Evil" ..
this is ur second Evil move after c&d letter to cyanogen..
peace all..
Curious why there haven't been any Zip Aligned or Deodexed roms put out, even if that is as far as we can go other than Kernel Tweaks.
I'm not complaining, just curious.
I guess well have stuff in due time.
So if I type assassinate and then.....Google, do u think they will send a team of nerds and lawyers to get me. Be a martyr...start a revolution..Viva la Zoom
...j/k. Not serious
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You don't need the source code to make a quality rom.
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Ftw
Kcarpenter said:
Curious why there haven't been any Zip Aligned or Deodexed roms put out, even if that is as far as we can go other than Kernel Tweaks.
I'm not complaining, just curious.
I guess well have stuff in due time.
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You don't need the source code to make a quality rom.
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Here's the deal guys. The legend JesusFreke has stated that he needs source to update his programs smali / baksmali. The are the base tools for decompiling framework and apk.
we cannot deodex rom without those tools. Thus we cannot modify smali and XML. So we are stuck with a stock rom. But we have kernel source which is far more important.
So, its all good for now
Is it still possible to theme the Stock ROM without deodexing? I thought I read somewhere that you could but it was not as easy.
Samsung probably pissed them off for putting their craptastic TouchWiz on the new Galaxy Tabs.
I bet you we'll see the Honeycomb source around the I/O in May. I bet we'll also get the deal on 2.4 and some hints for the next version which will unify the tablet and phone forks back into one.
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I bet you we'll see the Honeycomb source around the I/O in May. I bet we'll also get the deal on 2.4 and some hints for the next version which will unify the tablet and phone forks back into one.
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3 weeks after io..I think that's how long it took for froyo source.
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My guess is Google is probably more worried about all the bagnasty China tabs that have flooded the market all running earlier versions of Android.. Imagine the cheap China crap that would hit the streets if they released the HC Source.. No way the masses would pay the big bucks for the Google sanctioned Tablets when they could pick up a China tab for pennies on the dollar..
While I don't think Google is doing themselves any favors by taking this approach, I would point out that folks would probably make more headway spending time porting Ubuntu or one of the other Linux distributions to the Xoom than trying to prevail on Google to change their ways.
Let's Take A Deep Breath Folks
I'm going to keep this short because I'm not a developer yet, so I'm only qualified to speak as a user and as a grateful member of this forum. As I understand it, in order to be "open" the code has to eventually be released (kind of like non-packaged Linux, i.e. CentOS, Ubuntu, etc.).
From what I've experienced, the only people that DON'T want code coming to us are the carriers. When you folks develop way better ROMs than the crap with bloatware that they try to pass off to us, it hurts their wallets - BFD!!
I'm honored and proud of you guys and I KNOW that the Google probably held it for legitimate problems that they're going to fix for us. Once that's done, they KNOW that once you get a hold of it, more people are going to be exposed to it which only makes more people want future versions. that's how I got snagged by you folks, first with Windows Mobile and then with Android.
I have faith in parts of the system. I have faith in Google to deliver their end, it's the carriers and their greedy practices that I don't trust. Keep the faith folks, take a deep breath and relax. XOOM has been here for only a minute, but we KNOW that it's unlocked, it's rooted and as soon as the 4G hardware and the SD card issues are resolved, we're going to be hip-deep in better versions of the ROMs. I believe that with all my heart because you folks have shown it to me time and again.
It's gonna be great - just wait and see.

**Rumour** One Plus to soon abandon CM and ColorOS **Rumour**

well guys i just came up with this news and i have heard this before but i never saw any news today sombody on fb shared this so i am really dissapointed by OnePlus :/ i was thinking to get one plus on and i m trying my best to get an invite but i guess now i have to wait for a official word on it
What do you think guys should they make their own ROM or use CM use the poll .!!
Source: http://www.tech-feed.com/technology/oneplus-abandon-cyanogenmod-coloros/
We still need the confirmation to this rumor, but if it's true, there will always be a CM rom for the OPO! All we need to do is root it and flash it.
A Tech blogging site, that doesn't quote any form of source in their article, or postulate why it might be in a company's best interest to skin their own version of Android, OR do anything other than say, they are working on their own version.... That's high school level rumor mongering. Sure it's possible.... but hey, guess what, it's already a CM compatible phone, who cares if they skin their own version of Android?
theres so many stupid fake rumors coming out of the rumor mill lately. they couldnt abandon cm if they tried. thats what happens when you sign paperwork and cm run the fastboot software and recovery.
there will be 2 years of support from CM for this device, so do not worry ^_^
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there will be 2 years of support from CM for this device, so do not worry ^_^
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Thank you guys well the site does provide a valid Source and this news came a week ago when people in china said that they don't like CM UI so OPPO started making its own UI
Its not 100% and not 100% true as the blog says
Even if they make their own there will still be cm officially. Its likely they may just want their own skin but only provide it as an optional alternative.
This is assuming the unlikely rumor actually turns out true. But assumptions on a rumor aren't reliable so take it lightly.
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Even if they make their own there will still be cm officially. Its likely they may just want their own skin but only provide it as an optional alternative.
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yeah this is what i read but i am a CM fan and getting special treatment from CM is always welcome as the speed of development of CM will be faster for 1+1 as compared to others
I call bs. Color os is about as Chinese as you can get.
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Doesn't bother me. I install Apex launcher and then I like ColorOS. I even install Apex CM11, i hate the stock Android and Trebuchet launchers. ColorOS has some nice features that I miss when running CM.
So long as CM doesn't stop supporting it. It's all good lol
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They already released an AOSP rom available to flash via the Development category on the oneplus forum. The only thing it's missing is the gapps.
Don't believe it!
Oneplus i very highly doubt would switch ROMs so suddenly. And Color OS is getting pretty popular for phones in China it seems, do not lose hope friend!
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They already released an AOSP rom available to flash via the Development category on the oneplus forum. The only thing it's missing is the gapps.
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There's a reason they made the aosp ROM and not someone else, there aokp and paranoidandroid but there's no aosp group. The only way there would be an official aosp ROM would be if oneplus made it. It's based off cm source, oneplus has done no software development for the device. And the fact that gapps is separate actually says a lot. You can't just put on aosp and sell the device. The phone would not be Google certified. It took weeks for them to fall in line with Google's new strict standards.
Shipping ask that cyanogen inc. Works very closely with them. I think Steve klondik technically works for both companies. There's is no way they would ever end there partnership. The whole company is based around it. It's yet another fake rumor like the OnePlus tab and OnePlus two and onewatch. Best just to ignore it.
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The OP twisted topic name of the thread.
OnePlus is dropping ColorOS for their own ROM but international will still have CyanogenMod as the default ROM.
Read more, http://www.cnet.com/news/oneplus-to-drop-color-os-in-china-to-develop-its-own/
I heard a rumor that OnePlus was licensing TouchWiz from Samsung
Seriously, garbage rumors like this get floated all the time to force companies to make statements denying or clarifying the rumor. OnePlus is better off ignoring it.
new rom x oneplus one?
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I heard a rumor that OnePlus was licensing TouchWiz from Samsung
Seriously, garbage rumors like this get floated all the time to force companies to make statements denying or clarifying the rumor. OnePlus is better off ignoring it.
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Touchwiz people are already tortured by that ****ty UI and if OnePlus adds that then samsung will sue them
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Touchwiz people are already tortured by that ****ty UI and if OnePlus adds that then samsung will sue them
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So will I
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So will I
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Lollipop coming out for Samsung s5 but no OPO yet?

I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
Patience mate it will come in due course. CM usually take a while to release stable builds. Other devices are still waiting it will come in due course.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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It's not so surprising when u think about the number of developers/programmers in Samsung as a multi-billion company compared to cyanogen. +I think there may have been some deals between Google and Samsung, LG etc so they get the source code sooner before official release. But that's only what think, no evidence backing up this statement.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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How has Samsung beat CM to the chase? Money. Samsung are rolling in cash and they have a ridiculous amount of it to throw at developing the OS for their devices. Don't forget CM is a tiny (miniscule) company. Plus, the major OEM's get early release access to Android releases. You'll get your Lollipop, just be patient.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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Samsung probably got off there ass, they have always received new code from google way in advance of it being released to the public.
When it goes public that's when cm gets it.
Please understand all the variables before doing a shame post
I believe they got the code sooner
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Now shouldn't the One plus and CM get it as soon as other OEMs get it? I mean CM is no more bunch of dev doing this part time. I am still not convinced.
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Now shouldn't the One plus and CM get it as soon as other OEMs get it? I mean CM is no more bunch of dev doing this part time. I am still not convinced.
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Even if they did get it at the same time, CM would still be behind. It's all about money. Think about it, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG, they all have squillions of dollars and countless employees to sink into their devices. CM? Nope. CM are a tiny (and new) company, with just a fraction of the money and manpower that the big players have. I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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Because most consumers have no clue what's going on behind the scenes of these businesses, and ironically this leads them to think they know enough to legitimately criticize them. In America we call them arm-chair quarterbacks. They watch the game on TV the day after it's played completely removed the circumstances of the game, yet somehow they think they know everything and the guy on the field is stupid even though they've never even played the game.
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Even if they did get it at the same time, CM would still be behind. It's all about money. Think about it, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG, they all have squillions of dollars and countless employees to sink into their devices. CM? Nope. CM are a tiny (and new) company, with just a fraction of the money and manpower that the big players have. I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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I understand that but the only thing which is kind of icky to me is that CM being the primary OS provider for this phone, should provide the first stable versions for our phone. May be I am not seeing it correctly but looks like everyone gets CM stable releases at the same time. I just got this phone a month so may be I am missing something.
Not complaining or anything, just trying to understand the process.
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Because most consumers have no clue what's going on behind the scenes of these businesses, and ironically this leads them to think they know enough to legitimately criticize them. In America we call them arm-chair quarterbacks. They watch the game on TV the day after it's played completely removed the circumstances of the game, yet somehow they think they know everything and the guy on the field is stupid even though they've never even played the game.
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Not trying to start an argument here. But you do understand that the american football is played for the consumer's money (TV rights, stadium fees, ads etc). So if those arm chair QBs are paying to watch the game, they have a right to complain. If the teams or the players have a problem with it then they can go and play in private where no one will ever say a word.
It is similar situation here. The oneplus strategy was to attract consumers by using CM' OS. So I and others have a right to ask questions. You cannot criticize them and call them names. Go take out your frustration on someone else. You don't like this thread? Don't read it and don't comment on it.
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It is similar situation here.
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You missed the point. Paying to watch something makes nobody an expert or even knowledgeable about the matter. One is free to complain about the phone one bought, but that gives no understanding about what's going on in the offices of OnePlus or CyanogenMod, or the processes involved in the two of them outing a ROM compared to Samsung.
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You missed the point. Paying to watch something makes nobody an expert or even knowledgeable about the matter. One is free to complain about the phone one bought, but that gives no understanding about what's going on in the offices of OnePlus or CyanogenMod, or the processes involved in the two of them outing a ROM compared to Samsung.
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Exactly and that is what being discuss here. Some people like me are not sure about the things which goes in CM/One Plus office and we are confused on why CM can't get it out sooner then other big OEMs. Small company or not, they are getting paid.
No one goes complaining directly to the players or the teams (or companies in this case). America is a free country and people like you are trying to suppress the freedom of speech. I am going to sit here and ask million questions and you cannot stop me. Exactly like I can't stop you from replying to my messages .
If you want to contribute to answering then the question, then please do. If not then please stop creating arguments here.
Cyanogenmod have releases for a boat load of different phones with different hardware, they get the lollipop source as it's released to the public and they're are a very small company. Unlike Samsung, HTC, LG and Sony which have many developers and early access to the android source code so they can develop the next android version with their respective skin on top. If you want to complain about cyanogenmod, feel free to do so just know they're a small niche operating system compared to the big OEM's. But you can take a look at cyanogenmod's Gerrit and see they're working hard on the CM12 branch, that's something you can't see with the big OEM's
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Exactly and that is what being discuss here. Some people like me are not sure about the things which goes in CM/One Plus office and we are confused on why CM can't get it out sooner then other big OEMs. Small company or not, they are getting paid.
No one goes complaining directly to the players or the teams (or companies in this case). America is a free country and people like you are trying to suppress the freedom of speech. I am going to sit here and ask million questions and you cannot stop me. Exactly like I can't stop you from replying to my messages .
If you want to contribute to answering then the question, then please do. If not then please stop creating arguments here.
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So if I don't say what you want to hear, I just stop posting... I get it now. I guess I misunderstood what freedom of speech was before. :silly:
No point.
Why care about a Galaxy Sx getting lollipop before? It sucks anyway...:silly:
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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You forgot something, it's only officially available to the S5 in... Poland. Otherwise you still would have to root/ROM the Lollipop update onto the S5 no differently than a CM12 nightly and then it will only work on the international version. For the vast majority of S5 users they won't see an official OTA update for months, well after CM has delivered Lollipop to the OPO. Once it's made available to the US carriers expect massive delays again so they can 'certify' the ROM before pushing it out. If you really think that the extremely limited, country specific, release 'beat' CM to Lollipop you either have never played in the Android world or you have massively misplaced expectations.
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Samsung probably got off there ass, they have always received new code from google way in advance of it being released to the public.
When it goes public that's when cm gets it.
Please understand all the variables before doing a shame post
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Could you please provide a source to show Samsung get the code early?
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You forgot something, it's only officially available to the S5 in... Poland. Otherwise you still would have to root/ROM the Lollipop update onto the S5 no differently than a CM12 nightly and then it will only work on the international version. For the vast majority of S5 users they won't see an official OTA update for months, well after CM has delivered Lollipop to the OPO. Once it's made available to the US carriers expect massive delays again so they can 'certify' the ROM before pushing it out. If you really think that the extremely limited, country specific, release 'beat' CM to Lollipop you either have never played in the Android world or you have massively misplaced expectations.
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So you can root and anyone with a European S5 can get a genuine released Lollipop. At the moment we are flashing a pre nightly version of an aftermarket ROM, not even a nightly, let alone anywhere close to an official CM12S.
Sure Samsung have money and they should need it to adapt TouchWiz, but this is basically a stock Lollipop we are waiting for.
I've yet to see anyone quote a reliable source about Samsung getting the code early, but if the do then that would obviously be a good reason for CM appearing slow.
CM are slow look into previous CM releases go back to when Kit Kat was released, or Jelly Bean etc. CM support a number of devices each with different drivers and such CM access the code once it's released to public as mentioned on many posts here. Now that's CM. If OPO wanted to I assume they could release an AOSP version of Lollipop if they wish to like how they did with Kit Kat. CM won't rush and roll out a semi working CM12S for the sake of it we haven't even got official nightlies yet. We are still within the 90 day promise so there's plenty of time left still.
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So you can root and anyone with a European S5 can get a genuine released Lollipop. At the moment we are flashing a pre nightly version of an aftermarket ROM, not even a nightly, let alone anywhere close to an official CM12S.
Sure Samsung have money and they should need it to adapt TouchWiz, but this is basically a stock Lollipop we are waiting for.
I've yet to see anyone quote a reliable source about Samsung getting the code early, but if the do then that would obviously be a good reason for CM appearing slow.
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It doesn't matter even an iota that it's stock Android that we're waiting for. That doesn't make it any less work to get it working for a device. You should look into exactly what is involved in getting a new version of Android running on any non-Nexus device, because clearly you're under the false impression that it's a sinch to do, which it most definitely is not. This is all about money and resources.

What kind of Evil companies are Micromax and Cyanogen?

First, Cyanogen ditched OnePlus right on the eve of their India launch and signed up for an exclusive partnership with Micromax, which was an unpardonable sin.
Now, Micromax has somehow managed to ban OnePlus phones in India because it ships with Cyanogenmod. How crazy is this? It is because of OnePlus that Cyanogen exists in India.
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Micromax phones are ****. I know a few people who owns micromax phones. Their hardware is always one generation behind the current standards. Their phones heats up when you make a call for 10 minutes, let alone playing games and hd video playback without heating up. Micromax ruined android one initiative with their below par hardware choices.
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dexternepo said:
First, Cyanogen ditched OnePlus right on the eve of their India launch and signed up for an exclusive partnership with Micromax, which was an unpardonable sin.
Now, Micromax has somehow managed to ban OnePlus phones in India because it ships with Cyanogenmod. How crazy is this? It is because of OnePlus that Cyanogen exists in India.
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Has Cyanogen dropped support for OnePlus globally or just in India? It is not clear in the articles I have read.
I was not a fan of Cyanogen anyways as they seem kinda sleezy now, but I was pretty excited about the OEM support on this phone. Just got mine today so this news sucks.
dexternepo said:
First, Cyanogen ditched OnePlus right on the eve of their India launch and signed up for an exclusive partnership with Micromax, which was an unpardonable sin.
Now, Micromax has somehow managed to ban OnePlus phones in India because it ships with Cyanogenmod. How crazy is this? It is because of OnePlus that Cyanogen exists in India.
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As per the posts from OPO forum, It seems like OPO will soon break up with CM due to this licensing issue. CM sold global license to One Plus excluding China.
But CM sold India license to Micromax. So it seems like One Plus will sue CM for this and break the contract with CM as they are developing their own OS without bloatware and light as stock and all the features will be same as CM.
But CM in Micromax is kind of rude.
dexternepo said:
First, Cyanogen ditched OnePlus right on the eve of their India launch and signed up for an exclusive partnership with Micromax, which was an unpardonable sin.
Now, Micromax has somehow managed to ban OnePlus phones in India because it ships with Cyanogenmod. How crazy is this? It is because of OnePlus that Cyanogen exists in India.
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how do they actually ban it?
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bachera said:
how do they actually ban it?
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legal injunction. micromax has a legitimate contract in india.
personally, also not very impressed with CM pulling this sh!t. i don't think stabbing partners in the back is a good way to start a company.
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skrypj said:
Has Cyanogen dropped support for OnePlus globally or just in India? It is not clear in the articles I have read.
I was not a fan of Cyanogen anyways as they seem kinda sleezy now, but I was pretty excited about the OEM support on this phone. Just got mine today so this news sucks.
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This is just in India. The global versions of OPO will continue to receive updates -- but not for long as the relationship between OnePlus and Cyanogen seem to be crumbling at the moment.
Sigh, sad news. Time to ditch CM out of my OnePlus One.
hierarchy666 said:
Sigh, sad news. Time to ditch CM out of my OnePlus One.
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Good luck finding a ROM that isn't CM based lol, you're gonna have a hard time.
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timothydonohue said:
legal injunction. micromax has a legitimate contract in india.
personally, also not very impressed with CM pulling this sh!t. i don't think stabbing partners in the back is a good way to start a company.
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I hope they made the right choice quality wise
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'Evil companies' lol - get yourself some perspective dude.
Sad to hear..
I just got my OnePlus today and was so happy to have an open source operating system.
But when i realise that Cyanogenmod is no longer open source but also partly closed source and that the company then does dirty things like this that may end up hurting users, I am having serious second thoughts about Cyanogen mod.
I was glad to then read that OnePlus is making their own OS, hopefully it WILL be 100% Open Source!
skenliv said:
I just got my OnePlus today and was so happy to have an open source operating system.
But when i realise that Cyanogenmod is no longer open source but also partly closed source and that the company then does dirty things like this that may end up hurting users, I am having serious second thoughts about Cyanogen mod.
I was glad to then read that OnePlus is making their own OS, hopefully it WILL be 100% Open Source!
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CM is open source.
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skenliv said:
I just got my OnePlus today and was so happy to have an open source operating system.
But when i realise that Cyanogenmod is no longer open source but also partly closed source and that the company then does dirty things like this that may end up hurting users, I am having serious second thoughts about Cyanogen mod.
I was glad to then read that OnePlus is making their own OS, hopefully it WILL be 100% Open Source!
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Yes they are still an open source is but have had some closed source apps. I think only theme showcase and camera next are still closed source.
tiny4579 said:
Yes they are still an open source is but have had some closed source apps. I think only theme showcase and camera next are still closed source.
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Yes but they're only apps, the actual OS is open source, and that's what matters. I'm not a big fan of CM in general, but all this bashing is ridiculous, if it wasn't for them we simply would not have the modding scene as we know it.
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The real Evil is Cynogen Inc.
I think Micromax is not at fault here. They made an investment and have every right now to enforce it. It is the Evil of cynogen who need to be get rid off. What does MMX think, if CMI can dump OPO today, they can't do the same with them tomorrow? I am certain that this will happen. Developers turn greedy...
Soral said:
I think Micromax is not at fault here. They made an investment and have every right now to enforce it. It is the Evil of cynogen who need to be get rid off. What does MMX think, if CMI can dump OPO today, they can't do the same with them tomorrow? I am certain that this will happen. Developers turn greedy...
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This sums it up perfectly. Its not Micromax or Oneplus's fault and I'm sure that once another company with a bigger bundle of cash shows up, CM will ditch Micromax too.
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I think Micromax is not at fault here. They made an investment and have every right now to enforce it. It is the Evil of cynogen who need to be get rid off. What does MMX think, if CMI can dump OPO today, they can't do the same with them tomorrow? I am certain that this will happen. Developers turn greedy...
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not sure but the price on Micromax is cheaper
I think its not greed, if it was they would have let Google buy them.
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Are they perhaps trying to distance themselves from the OPO due to they lack of warranty claim response and things of that nature. Maybe CM thinks they are getting a bad image due to OPO's shortcomings?

CM12s is coming soon!

Latest news says that CM12s is almost done!
It is pretty stable and is in latest testing stage.
This is confirmed by CyanogenMod Inc.
What do you think guys when it will come to us ?
Maybe early next month. But I hope that it is better then cm11s, that system sucks.
Source? I really doubt there will be a CM12S.
Opo have moved away from CM and decided to build their own ROM, called Oxygen OS.
Gamm86 said:
Source? I really doubt there will be a CM12S.
Opo have moved away from CM and decided to build their own ROM, called Oxygen OS.
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https://twitter.com/CyanogenInc/status/561679381492269056
It's a news of 2 days ago and it's already been discussed, look better before opening a new thread
Elvecio said:
It's a news of 2 days ago and it's already been discussed, look better before opening a new thread
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We've been tracking it for two weeks, actually, since January 16th:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/oneplus-one-to-stable-cm12-lollipop-t3004198
RaDiS234 said:
Latest news says that CM12s is almost done!
It is pretty stable and is in latest testing stage.
This is confirmed by CyanogenMod Inc.
What do you think guys when it will come to us ?
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its aready out for certification since last week
source cant find it I think twitter or google plus
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Gamm86 said:
Source? I really doubt there will be a CM12S.
Opo have moved away from CM and decided to build their own ROM, called Oxygen OS.
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We are getting CM12S. Steve Kondik has confirmed multiple times that we're getting CM12S. OPO built Oxygen for the Indian market, it has nothing to do with moving away from CM, they also built their own ROM for people to use months before the whole OnePlus/CM/Micromax drama. Maybe stay up to date with information surrounding the device before commenting in that nature.
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We are getting CM12S. Steve Kondik has confirmed multiple times that we're getting CM12S. OPO built Oxygen for the Indian market, it has nothing to do with moving away from CM, they also built their own ROM for people to use months before the whole OnePlus/CM/Micromax drama. Maybe stay up to date with information surrounding the device before commenting in that nature.
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ouuuuuch but correct but still ouuuuuch.... Now you know people like the drama up in here up in here!
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