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Unlocked Bootloader?

Hello all...
I apologize if this has been asked already but does the A500 have an unlockable bootloader? That's really the only thing holding me back from purchasing one.

Locked...at the moment, check the recovery thread below to follow the progress.
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locked isn't that big of a problem...locked and encrypted IS.
I'm picking up a camera at best buy tonight and if I get my tablet (which I was planning on getting soon anyway...just wasn't decided on model) at the same time, it will be interest free for 18 months
I'll probably grab the A500 and see if I can contribute development wise.
EDIT: I'm going to hold off a few more weeks yet...I waited this long, I can wait a little longer.
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Dollyllama said:
locked isn't that big of a problem...locked and encrypted IS.
I'm picking up a camera at best buy tonight and if I get my tablet (which I was planning on getting soon anyway...just wasn't decided on model) at the same time, it will be interest free for 18 months
I'll probably grab the A500 and see if I can contribute development wise.
EDIT: I'm going to hold off a few more weeks yet...I waited this long, I can wait a little longer.
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18 months is why I picked up one as well. Comparing it to my grab
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Got one on the 18 month dealio as well....
I am just not much help in the dev department

Rather than start a new thread, I'll just post my question here.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the Iconia, especially with the deals going on right now. I know the bootloader is locked, but I'm wondering what does it limit us from doing? We have root (is it temp root?) and we can flash ROMs. What can't we do? And in case Acer stops releasing updates, can we update it with ICS by flashing?

harveydent said:
Rather than start a new thread, I'll just post my question here.
I'm about to pull the trigger on the Iconia, especially with the deals going on right now. I know the bootloader is locked, but I'm wondering what does it limit us from doing? We have root (is it temp root?) and we can flash ROMs. What can't we do? And in case Acer stops releasing updates, can we update it with ICS by flashing?
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The bootloader is NOT locked. It IS, however, protected by a hashcode. That's what the "itsmagic" tool does, it recalculates the hashcode after flashing a ROM so that the device can boot.
If you forget that step (our custom CWM does it for you), say hello to bricksville. Otherwise, we can do what we want.

Thanks for the reply. I figured something like that a few minutes after I posted. I was just confused at the complaints that the A500 was locked in other forums.
So to be clear, as long as someone can port it, we will be able to get "updates" even if Acer drops all support?

harveydent said:
Thanks for the reply. I figured something like that a few minutes after I posted. I was just confused at the complaints that the A500 was locked in other forums.
So to be clear, as long as someone can port it, we will be able to get "updates" even if Acer drops all support?
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Yep, as long as someone ports it, we don't need Acer.

Will this root method work?

http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.

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http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.
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Agreed...I have my S4 in hand now and am happy to help...need root and need a wifi tethering option that works. PM me and let me know if you need log files or what...

Agreed, we all need to pitch in. Weird as im not seeing any devs yet?

fix-this! said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.
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I was going to try this, but I got worried that I would brick my new phone when I saw the firmware is different. Chainfire's method uses XXUAMD2 firmware. My Build Number is JDQ39.I337UCUAMDB. It is close, but not the same.

rsmolen said:
I was going to try this, but I got worried that I would brick my new phone when I saw the firmware is different. Chainfire's method uses XXUAMD2 firmware. My Build Number is JDQ39.I337UCUAMDB. It is close, but not the same.
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Yeah i saw that to. Someone on android central insisted it would work. Thats why i posted it here.

fix-this! said:
Yeah i saw that to. Someone on android central insisted it would work. Thats why i posted it here.
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they want someone stupid to try it out instead of them and report their success or failure first lol

im sure most people dont even have this phone yet because its not out. Mine does not arrive till tommorow

I thoiught I saw a post in the Development thread that this method does not work - I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that is the case, unfortunately. I have faith that Chainfire of someone will get us rooted soon enough - (hell, I don't even have my S4 yet - won't arrive until tomorrow
But - Unless I had seen someone else had successfully rooted using any method, I do not think I would even think about being the first one to try it. lol

How long before the AT&T source code is released? We should be able to get a work around once we have that.

This will be my first Android phone that didn't have root before it was released, and I've bought nearly all of them on release date, taken it home, and rooted it before doing anything! I won't be selling my SIII right away since it looks like I'll be using it until we get a successful root out of this sucker....
Getting mine on Saturday if all goes to plans, willing to help test as well! I have 60 days to return it if it breaks, hahah

KryptosXLayer2 said:
This will be my first Android phone that didn't have root before it was released, and I've bought nearly all of them on release date, taken it home, and rooted it before doing anything! I won't be selling my SIII right away since it looks like I'll be using it until we get a successful root out of this sucker....
Getting mine on Saturday if all goes to plans, willing to help test as well! I have 60 days to return it if it breaks, hahah
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Yea i can't officially switch till root. S4 just arrived. Will see if I can get some root on here.

Just got mine an hour ago. Apparently, thanks to AT&T, the bootloader is locked, which could complicate the root method considerably

Possible AT&T N3 Safestrap?

I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/

Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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Jayster0966 said:
I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.

Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.

Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes

Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.

I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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Jayster0966 said:
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.

tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.

tropazr said:
Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:

Jayster0966 said:
C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.

9wire said:
They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258

Anybody have an update on unlocking the bootloader

I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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droidfreak02 said:
I know verizon in getting close to pushing out the new kitkat but i dont want to take the update if we have a unlock bootloader in sight
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Not gong to happen, so I'd stop worrying and thinking about this.

We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.

ryanbg said:
We're still hard at work, but we've still got a ways to go. We're still in the research/discovery phase. I'd just update.
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Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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pimpmaneaton said:
Awesome @ryanbg glad to hear that some devs are still looking into it. Wish I knew more about how to do something that intensive but my knowledge is limited to custom stock roms and compiling and modifying from source. Thanks for the update.
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I was about where you were at in October. I've got a decent chunk of Linux/C experience, but most of it is just reading/learning/searching and putting the pieces together. It's just really time consuming

It is sad how quickly people are dismissing it as impossible. people said the same thing about the Razor...

Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.

Walter.White said:
Unfortunately there are currently only two devs working on this @ryanbg (he is mostly working on N3) and @Surge1223 (he is mostly working on S4).
Here are the things needed for any phone to be unlocked.
1. Large userbase.
2. Most (if not all) variants of the phone has locked bootloader.
3. No developer edition phone.
4. Ungreedy dev who is not going to sell off the exploit to the oem or carrier in exchange of money.
5. Nice enough "guaranteed" bounty for it to be worth dev's time.
6. Dev who is not scared to be sued by the carrier/oem for releasing unlocked bootloader/exploit/signing key.
And in this case we are missing most of the above requirements, if not all.
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Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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shangrila500 said:
Well from what I understand there have been a few posts on other forums about Adam Outler posting a picture on his G+ showing Secure boot off but he later had to delete it because people didn't understand that Sboot being off isn't the same as a bootloader unlock. So maybe if he can get that far there is a way for everyone to do it and the right hole just hasn't been found yet. I am very very proud of our devs and think if anyone can do it it will be someone on XDA. I am hoping for a bootloader unlock but I have to agree it does look a bit grim.
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Nah. It was actually @ryanbg who achieved that secureboot:none status and it was his picture that he sent it to adam AFAIK adam doesn't even have note 3 (ppl where trying to crowd fund it but mods kept deleting those threads for one reason or another..so he actually never got N3 in his hand).
P.S. I'm just hoping that some dev has already cracked the bootloader but is waiting on S5 release before posting it. :fingers-crossed: @designgears already has the S5 firmware but hasn't posted it yet.

LG V20, VS995, Is anyone working on rootm

Hello. Is anyone working on root for us poor desperate Verizon folk? So missing the note 7, but this seemed like the best alternative to get me through til the end of 2017 when they say a Note 8 will run come. I seriously need this phone to be a wifi hotspot by Christmas though.....Thank you for any help or link or any thing at all!

Uggh.. Again.. Wrong section homeslice
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bdlagain said:
Hello. Is anyone working on root for us poor desperate Verizon folk? So missing the note 7, but this seemed like the best alternative to get me through til the end of 2017 when they say a Note 8 will run come. I seriously need this phone to be a wifi hotspot by Christmas though.....Thank you for any help or link or any thing at all!
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If you need a hotspot by Christmas you'd better make alternative plans. And you would be well advised to learn and use the search function.

douger1957 said:
If you need a hotspot by Christmas you'd better make alternative plans. And you would be well advised to learn and use the search function.
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I have been searching here for 2 days. Every thread. The only thing I've really found is a discussion started by @elliwigy I was just trying to get some updated news. Sorry....

bdlagain said:
I have been searching here for 2 days. Every thread. The only thing I've really found is a discussion started by @elliwigy I was just trying to get some updated news. Sorry....
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lmao i was summoned.. my thread was in a different section (the right one)...
any updates can be found in that thread or the other threads pertaining to root for non tmo devices
i have vzw myself lol trust me, we all want root

Thank you! I'll just continue to follow your thread then & keep my fingers crossed!

You could pay the extra 30 for hotspot or wait for root. Its a no no to ask for eta so be patient
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I'm so glad I didn't buy a verizon branded phone this time around... that being said, here's hoping you guys can get some sort of quick root. it took 2 years for my Verizon note 4 to get root, and it only started off as temp root that was useless... took forrrevvveerrrr.
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jayochs said:
I'm so glad I didn't buy a verizon branded phone this time around... that being said, here's hoping you guys can get some sort of quick root. it took 2 years for my Verizon note 4 to get root, and it only started off as temp root that was useless... took forrrevvveerrrr.
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Gees! That's strange! I had root almost immediately on my VZ Note 4 & it stayed til I got my Note 7 in August. Actually, I had to unroot so I could trade it in.

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Gees! That's strange! I had root almost immediately on my VZ Note 4 & it stayed til I got my Note 7 in August. Actually, I had to unroot so I could trade it in.
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really? the vzw note 4 took years to my knowledge with only temp root and wasnt until then that they found a way to change into a dev edition did they get full root/recovery.. it was not immediate..
the Note 7 had a debug rom leaked from sprint in .tar format that we were able to flash in odin.. we have a debug device but no way to create a .tot or .kdz from the phone to create a flashable rom,we could use in lg up or lg flash tool

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really? the vzw note 4 took years to my knowledge with only temp root and wasnt until then that they found a way to change into a dev edition did they get full root/recovery.. it was not immediate..
the Note 7 had a debug rom leaked from sprint in .tar format that we were able to flash in odin.. we have a debug device but no way to create a .tot or .kdz from the phone to create a flashable rom,we could use in lg up or lg flash tool
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Oh. I had a dev edition to start eith that i bought direct from samsung. I guess I never realized the regular notes had such an issue....

haha that's why. I should have waited for the dev edition back then but I was too excited for it. the actual Verizon version came out October 14 and didn't get root until I think spring of 16
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We have root!!! And it's not Christmas yet......