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Z1C or Z2

I'd like to know if i should buy Z2 or Z1C based on my phone usage. I don't use the phone heavily on games. Just browsing, messaging, emails videos and music. I owned note 3 and I get pretty tired of the phone size since I'm always on the go. It's hard to use for me. I know Z2 is 5.2 but is it that big that I may feel this way again. I'm thinking of listing the ff features that lacks in Z1C.
-double tap to wake
-AFS is gone in Z2
-Camera is the same MP but I heard z1c camera is not good enough plus the flash bleed.
-4k video recording
The thing that keeps me interested in Z1C is the battery life since it's only 720p the screen on time can reach 6 to 7 with stamina mode. And with my usage I think Z1C fits me plus the pocket ability But is there anything else that the Z2 can do that Z1C can't.

I just bought a Z1 Compact because I wanted an iPhone sized phone for Android that has flagship specs unlike all the other mini phones. I don't like big 5inch+ phones and finally this was a phone without compromise that gave me the iPhone sized form.
If you don't care about size, then the Z2 is probably the way to go, though the Z1 Compact is £386 on Amazon UK and the Z2 will probably be £500+...
If you're on contract then maybe you can find better value in getting a more expensive phone?

or wait a few month for the Z2c, of course, by then,you'll probably have the same dilema with the Z3 or what not

Going from Samsung Note 2 to Z3, smart move?

Hi
I am considering leaving my beaten Samsung Note 2 for a Z3. I don't use the SPen a lot so I don't think I will miss that features from my Note .
My main priorities are:
Good battery life
Fast upgrade to Android L
Responsive
Great audio quality on headphones
Any opinions?
Thanks, Trond

Trondeh said:
Hi
I am considering leaving my beaten Samsung Note 2 for a Z3. I don't use the SPen a lot so I don't think I will miss that features from my Note .
My main priorities are:
Good battery life
Fast upgrade to Android L
Responsive
Great audio quality on headphones
Any opinions?
Thanks, Trond
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Do it!
I did a similar upgrade, Note 2-> Xperia Z for approx 6 months -> Xperia Z3.
It's definitely worthwhile, the Note 2 seems old and clunky in comparison, and IMHO Touchwiz sucks compared to Sony's android software. The build quality is in another league also.

tooch1 said:
Do it!
I did a similar upgrade, Note 2-> Xperia Z for approx 6 months -> Xperia Z3.
It's definitely worthwhile, the Note 2 seems old and clunky in comparison, and IMHO Touchwiz sucks compared to Sony's android software. The build quality is in another league also.
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Thank you! How would you rate the audio quality of the Z3 compared to the Note? Even if the Note 2 has a Wolfson DAC, which is supposed to be good, I am not happy at all with the sound quality using my high-quality earbuds (Shure 535). Audio quality is one of the most important decision factors for me.
How is the office-part of the Z3, Exchange email and calendar especially.

Do it, bro. I upgraded from a S III. Best decision I've ever made, I suffered with the craptastic Android 4.3 update on the S III so much I'd take any other phone that is a lot more responsive.
In terms of audio quality, I can't perceive any difference. Both the S III and the Z3 sound great. Though, I'd prefer the Z3 to be a bit louder, I know I'm possibly destroying my ears but I like loud music.

Trondeh said:
Thank you! How would you rate the audio quality of the Z3 compared to the Note? Even if the Note 2 has a Wolfson DAC, which is supposed to be good, I am not happy at all with the sound quality using my high-quality earbuds (Shure 535). Audio quality is one of the most important decision factors for me.
How is the office-part of the Z3, Exchange email and calendar especially.
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Sound quality was a big thing for me as well, and the Z3 does not disappoint. I had a quick listen to a HDTracks 24/192 master of Miles Davis-Kind Of Blue this morning with my Sennheiser HD-25-II and it was amazing. It sounds great with everything I've thrown at it so far.
Z3 also officially supports USB DACs and DSD playback. It's designed to sound great
Can't comment too much on the office side of things as I only really use Gmail and Google Calendar, but they both work flawlessly as on most modern Android devices

Any clue if and when the new Z3 will get Android L? Could it be that Sony would only provide this on a future Z4 to be released perhaps early next year? Perhaps this is only paranoia :silly:

If you want fast updates, then take a look at the new Google nexus 6. The z3 will get updated to Android L and z4 should come early next year with Android L as Sony has been doing the two phones a year cycle. But if updates are a priority, then nexus is the way to go. Also the new note 4 looks like a great phone.
You can't go wrong with the z3, note 4 or nexus 6. All three should be good for a while.

Sony are not known for their quick updates and due to their bi yearly release cycle it would be safe to say that the Nexus 6 or Note 4 will 'last you longer'. However on the hardware front you cannot go wrong with any of the three.

They were fast with the Kitkat update.
And the hardware stays the same. If it won't last long enough, it's because you want a new phone.

paysen said:
They were fast with the Kitkat update.
And the hardware stays the same. If it won't last long enough, it's because you want a new phone.
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Just read this: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/10/sony-bringing-android-5-0-lollipop-entire-xperia-z-series/
If it is true, it is rather impressive of Sony!

Trondeh said:
Just read this: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/10/sony-bringing-android-5-0-lollipop-entire-xperia-z-series/
If it is true, it is rather impressive of Sony!
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They will prioritise updates for the Z3 series and the Z2.

ive gone from the note 2 to the z3 and cant complain other than no root at the mo for locked bootloader as this messes with the drm keys for the camera for low light conditions

Two things to consider. One is the very low headphone volume. It's much too low. Second is the excessively blue tint on the screen. I am constantly adjusting my white balance, it's driving me crazy.

Ditto on the output volume. Guess Sony is a bit overzealous in implementing the EU volume restrictions which stipulated a 85 dBa limit. According to GSMArena tests, the Z3 tops up at about 86 dBa, with no option to increase it without firmware mods.

Having had the note 2 end 2012- early 13 was one of the worst and most boring phones have ever owned!!
I got the z3 on thursday (same day I got my note 4 aswell) and the z3 is better than the note 2 in every way I can think of.
especially audio and battery life. The Z3 is my main phone now its the first sony phone I have really been interested in in a long time. The last sony phone I had was the z1 and I had the Z, T & S before and while I liked the Z in the way it looked at the water resistance, the audio volume/loud speaker was rather low and the battery life wasn't great and the camera I found slow to focus same can be said for the S & T aswell. The Z2 was much improved but still had low audio volume for my use, the Z3 fixed that, along with I prefer the z3s more rounded design makes the phone look smaller than it is.

Sony Xperia Z4s Camera And Interface

This year, few smartphones have been as talked about – or subject to as many leaks – as the Sony Xperia Z4, and along those lines we present to you the latest batch of photos to trickle onto the web via in2mobile and NWE. Click through on the links to see the slideshows in full.
What’s interesting is that the phone in these shots shows the model number E6553, the same number that appeared in leaked benchmark tests last week. Either it’s the same phone or someone’s very handy with a photo editor.
Another image shows the camera around the back of the supposed Xperia Z4. It looks a lot like the snapper fixed to last year’s Xperia Z3 – based on earlier rumours we are expecting the megapixel rating to be the same but with an upgrade for the internal sensor.
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for those who wanna upgrade their smartphone
Xperia Z4 is one of the best choice.
elegant body, stunning display, smooth UI (like wht we had experience with Z2, Z3), awesome performance & best camera
+ Stereo speaker it means all u want
:good:

Sony Xperia Z4 is better than LG G4. Really it has good feature, smoothly use, nice camera and so on .

I think sony Xperia is very reliable and save to use,it is better than other mobile brands.

The Z3 camera is fantastic. I like Z3 more than Z4. I used Z4 but still Z3 is the best for me:good:

I like this !! jeje

Why you buy sony Xperia
Why you buy Xperia ,,, and there is Samsung Galaxy S6

Samsung hardware fails after a year or two.. Sony works for more than samsung...

Geeks Empire said:
for those who wanna upgrade their smartphone
Xperia Z4 is one of the best choice.
elegant body, stunning display, smooth UI (like wht we had experience with Z2, Z3), awesome performance & best camera
+ Stereo speaker it means all u want
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Disagree with my usage so far, camera is okay, same as Z3, no optical stabilisation and is now falling behind both the S6 and G4 for quality imo. Also have installed pocketcasts and there is noticeable lag while watching video podcasts, first phone I have had that has done this.
Also I am disappointed that Sony have once again resorted to applying a shatter resistant screen, this does not have oleophobic coating, gets easily smudged which really shows up in the sunlight.
Personally I think Sony have launched the Z3+ (Z4) just to get a phone out there rather than taking time to actually upgrade the phone properly, maybe this is due to all the unrest in the Sony mobile camp!

The question is, does the screen have the oleophobic coats on the screen itself, under the pre-installed screen protector..?
UPDATE: Found out, The answer is.. YES!
http://www.androidcentral.com/you-c...ble-factory-fitted-xperia-z3-screen-protector

Help me decide between the 6P and the Sony Xperia Z5 Premium

I'm trying to decide what phone to get next. My current phone is the Galaxy Note 3. The Z5 and the 6P have the same SoC. So performance should be about the same, right?
What I like about the Z5 is that it's got a microSD slot and it's waterproof. What I like about the 6P is that it's available now and is pure Android. No clue when the Z5 will be available. And since I live in the US, I would probably have to buy an international version of the Z5 on ebay or amazon.
My priorities are lots of storage for my lossless music collection (have about a TB of music, and want to carry a fair chunk of it at any time) and good performance for productivity apps (Word, Excel) and games. The fact that the Z5 display is 4K is not a selling point for me.
Any help would be highly appreciated (and liked! ).

Z5 if you need storage even if u get a 128gb won't be as much a dedicated 128gb micro + 32/64gb internal, the z5 according to dxo now has the best camera on a phone as well.
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djkinetic said:
Z5 if you need storage even if u get a 128gb won't be as much a dedicated 128gb micro + 32/64gb internal, the z5 according to dxo now has the best camera on a phone as well.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely leaning towards the Z5 Premium. It can officially take up to a 200gb microSD. Camera is not so important to me. Do you think there 's a downside other than a) not pure Android and b) the wait for a definite release date?

Can't you wait a bit until new phones are released with more advanced SoC's? I don't have any evidence that the SD810 is working according to the price of the phones carrying it, I'm checking up performance test videos that put the Z5 against other phones and the results are not promising. I don't know if it's because of poor software optimisation or the SD810 being greatly under clocked to deal with the over heating issues, if it's the first thing then the nexus 6p should be fine.

The Z3 is more waterproof compare to the Z5. Sony said they slowly put the Z5 in the water for the test and you can literally swim with the Z3. So, don't be so confident with that.
the only advantage for me to buy the sony is:
1-the battery life
2-microsd card (but i'm pretty sure the 128gb version of the 6p will be cheaper)
3-4k Display
great media player
cons:
not pure android
not a lot of dev
slow update (5-7month)

The 128gb 6p is still cheaper than the 32gb z5 premium by about £60.
Z5 premium music quality will be better judging by th xperias of past.
Ps4 remote play on z5 not tyat youll use it.
Personally being a massive Sony Fan (everything is Sony in my house.) I understand that sony phones are not the best and they through in features that arent really needed. Sony arent commiting to fully waterproof any more. There is always a problem with their cameras. If your going android, I think pure android is the only way to go or get the s6edge plus or note 5 as they have superior hardware like ufs2 memory, quick wireless charging and 4gb Ram.
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Z5 Compact competition? Sharp Aquos XX 2

Recently released with very little fanfare, unsure of global availability.
4.7" display, Snapdragon 808, 3gb RAM, 1080p Display, 2800mha battery, 13 MP camera, Water and dust resistant.
Could call it a Z5 compact pro?
http://gsminsider.com/2015/10/sharp...ecifications-features-price-and-availability/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFyIN6cxuWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTguV9v9acc

I wouldn't call it a compact pro, snapdragon 808 is far from the 810, the 100 mAh difference won't counter the fact that need it needs to drive four times as many pixels but the IGZO screen might help a bit but I rather go with the IPS screen. While the Z5 series camera seems to have some issues (most likely software) 13MP is a far cry from 23. The RAM is nice but doubt it will do much difference in the long run.
I could maybe see it as an alternative to the Z5C but it is in no way it's superior, it's also IP67 (from what info I can find) which is a far cry from IP65 and IP68 even though Sony has gone back a bit on their marketing for it.

Very nice little phone but like they said above, that FHD display will require more juice to run, despite being IGZO. I seriously don't feel a need for more pixels on the Z5 display, it looks great already and I'd rather the GPU performance and battery life be boosted than just more pixels. It's also a shame about the 16GB internal storage. The RAM is the only real specification that makes me envious, even then I'm quite content with the Z5C multitasking so far. It's great to see another high-spec compact phone though.
What's Sharp's track record with OS updates like? That's the real question here I think. Sony has proven to support their Z series well and we already know they are busy working on the Marshmallow update.

its no competition because sharp only aims for the asian market.

There needs to be more competition in this market. I'm still plenty satisfied with my Z3C and while neither the Z5C nor the Aquos Compact are a big enough step up for me to consider upgrading, I'm glad that another player as entered.
I held an old HTC Incredible S the other day and it felt oh so good! If HTC could just get their heads of out their butts and develop a decent phone again (not a phablet), I would run back to them in a hurry.

boojay said:
I held an old HTC Incredible S the other day and it felt oh so good! If HTC could just get their heads of out their butts and develop a decent phone again (not a phablet), I would run back to them in a hurry.
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I had a Samsung Captivate 5 years ago and remember seeing an Incredible around that time. It really felt amazing in the hand and it made me jealous.
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Woza72 said:
Recently released with very little fanfare, unsure of global availability.
4.7" display, Snapdragon 808, 3gb RAM, 1080p Display, 2800mha battery, 13 MP camera, Water and dust resistant.
Could call it a Z5 compact pro?
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I would be even more interested in the Z5C if it had those specs. I don't understand why the Compact is still the only real flagship in a smaller size. No one else seems interested in competing with Sony.

I'm jealous of the Camara opening speed. Lol
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I actually bought a sharp aquos shv31 that was a hare smaller than my z1 compact, and a beautiful full 1080p display. Problem is they lock the apn to their austrailan market and apparently use some onerous anti-root methods that no one has broken it open. I have to send back as its useless with no data, but I totally love the sharp phone otherwise. I really wish they would put out an unlocked version, as I ended up buying a z5 compact to replace my z1c, and already waiting to hate the fact I'm going to lose most of its features when I unlock/root it.
Damn sony and their drm.

supercakefish said:
Very nice little phone but like they said above, that FHD display will require more juice to run, despite being IGZO. I seriously don't feel a need for more pixels on the Z5 display, it looks great already and I'd rather the GPU performance and battery life be boosted than just more pixels. It's also a shame about the 16GB internal storage. The RAM is the only real specification that makes me envious, even then I'm quite content with the Z5C multitasking so far. It's great to see another high-spec compact phone though.
What's Sharp's track record with OS updates like? That's the real question here I think. Sony has proven to support their Z series well and we already know they are busy working on the Marshmallow update.
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Oh shoot, It's cakefish from NotebookReview. I knew your profile icon looked familiar.

mbutash said:
I actually bought a sharp aquos shv31 that was a hare smaller than my z1 compact, and a beautiful full 1080p display. Problem is they lock the apn to their austrailan market and apparently use some onerous anti-root methods that no one has broken it open. I have to send back as its useless with no data, but I totally love the sharp phone otherwise. I really wish they would put out an unlocked version, as I ended up buying a z5 compact to replace my z1c, and already waiting to hate the fact I'm going to lose most of its features when I unlock/root it.
Damn sony and their drm.
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Yes, I also owned Z1c and Z5c now. Was also looking forward on sharp phones but nowadays they are very hard to root, so a no go to me.