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Android 4.3 officially announced by Google

http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/24/an...or-nexus-7-nexus-4-nexus-10-and-galaxy-nexus/
Seemingly we will get it in a "few days"
Live video is offline and google hasnt uploaded it yet, so here is a low quality one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU9i5SJf994

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZzS6BxHEns

So where is HTC and Samsung with their GE 4.3 updates? Day 1 and counting, curious if it will be days, weeks or longer.

RaptorMD said:
So where is HTC and Samsung with their GE 4.3 updates? Day 1 and counting, curious if it will be days, weeks or longer.
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It will probably take them at least a month (unfortunately)

The 'Very Soon' didn't really sound like 'In a couple days'. I may agree with above. About 2-4 weeks is my prediction (purely speculation)
If I bought a GE I'd almost feel like I got duped - considering the major selling point was the timely stock updates.

2-4 weeks is timely compared to how it works now.

bbedward said:
The 'Very Soon' didn't really sound like 'In a couple days'. I may agree with above. About 2-4 weeks is my prediction (purely speculation)
If I bought a GE I'd almost feel like I got duped - considering the major selling point was the timely stock updates.
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It does suck for those who actually got fooled with the GPe devices. It SHOULDN'T take them that long as they clearly have been working on it since the leaks have surfaced. I'm just ready to laugh when we see a partially working AOSP 4.3 build up before HTC releases the official OTA. :laugh:

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It does suck for those who actually got fooled with the GPe devices. It SHOULDN'T take them that long as they clearly have been working on it since the leaks have surfaced. I'm just ready to laugh when we see a partially working AOSP 4.3 build up before HTC releases the official OTA. :laugh:
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That's what happend to Nexus devices in the past. Google is very fast this time tho.

Agggg
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That's what happend to Nexus devices in the past. Google is very fast this time tho.
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And here I am with the Developer Edition still on 4.21! Now that's a real dupe
if you ask me. Love the phone but the way HTC updates stinks. Nothing has
changed. This is my last HTC phone.
Meanwhile my wifes Nexus 4 is installing 4.3!
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cc999 said:
And here I am with the Developer Edition still on 4.21! Now that's a real dupe
if you ask me. Love the phone but the way HTC updates stinks. Nothing has
changed. This is my last HTC phone.
Meanwhile my wifes Nexus 4 is installing 4.3!
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Well it only has been a couple hours since they announced it. The whole point of the GE was to get updates similar to the Nexus devices and if HTC can at least release it this week i will be happy . If not, this (sadly) is my last HTC phone as i have had several bad experiences with them already (but that is a whole different topic).

My window to return is today, so I may opt to return it, in favor of waiting to see what the Moto X announcement will be.
If that turns out to be a mediocre device then I may just opt to hop back on the One.
My biggest issue is paying $640 and not getting updates for weeks, but as already said here, it's only been a few hours lol.

4.3 doesn't sound like much of an update. A lot of little stuff, not much of which will be apparent to the user unless you let your kids use your phone all the time.
How fast this gets rolled out to the GE phones is not something to get exercised about, IMO.

Argenist said:
My window to return is today, so I may opt to return it, in favor of waiting to see what the Moto X announcement will be.
If that turns out to be a mediocre device then I may just opt to hop back on the One.
My biggest issue is paying $640 and not getting updates for weeks, but as already said here, it's only been a few hours lol.
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To be honest i don't think the Moto X will be any better as far as updates go. It will most likely ship with 4.3, but it is also a big step back as far as specs go (according to the leaked spec sheets)

killman2659 said:
To be honest i don't think the Moto X will be any better as far as updates go. It will most likely ship with 4.3, but it is also a big step back as far as specs go (according to the leaked spec sheets)
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I dunno that new Moto SoC looks pretty nice

iElvis said:
4.3 doesn't sound like much of an update. A lot of little stuff, not much of which will be apparent to the user unless you let your kids use your phone all the time.
How fast this gets rolled out to the GE phones is not something to get exercised about, IMO.
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I mostly care about the performance improvements. Other than that i won't use any of the multi-user features (i think that is pretty much the only new "feature" added as everything else seems to be under the hood optimizations and/or improvements.)

Disregard.

gunnyman said:
I dunno that new Moto SoC looks pretty nice
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So far it is just rumors/leaks though. We will see soon enough but i am liking the on screen buttons and the rumored price points :good:

killman2659 said:
I mostly care about the performance improvements. Other than that i won't use any of the multi-user features (i think that is pretty much the only new "feature" added as everything else seems to be under the hood optimizations and/or improvements.)
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If there are perceptible performance enhancements, that's a different issue. But I guess we won't know until it starts rolling out.

henrybravo said:
I have singled you guys out in your quotes above. Where did Samsung and HTC ever say that the GE editions of their phones would get "timely updates" similar to Nexus devices? Just curious.
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I quote from the GPe web page:
Unlock the latest and greatest from Google with the best smartphone for you.
Booming audio and an awesome camera in a sleek package, now featuring the latest version of Android from Google.
The latest in Android.
The Google Play edition phones automatically receive updates of the latest Android software. Optimized for the latest apps, more storage for your content and a fast, clean user experience all come standard.
Always want the latest and greatest? Upgrade your handset with no carrier commitment or contract.
Edit: it may not be HTC/Samsung saying it directly, but it is in fact on the actual device page and it repetitively says you will have the latest and greatest updates from Google.

killman2659 said:
I quote from the GPe web page:
Unlock the latest and greatest from Google with the best smartphone for you.
Booming audio and an awesome camera in a sleek package, now featuring the latest version of Android from Google.
The latest in Android.
The Google Play edition phones automatically receive updates of the latest Android software. Optimized for the latest apps, more storage for your content and a fast, clean user experience all come standard.
Always want the latest and greatest? Upgrade your handset with no carrier commitment or contract.
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Thanks, I've edited my post. I found a few news stories as well about it. I hope it actually comes true.

Motorola software updates

I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.

Unless someone here can tell the future....
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Someone with an inside source said that their timetable for releases is 2 months after a new version is released.
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
The two month timetable isn't assume h that has been officially confirmed, so it may not be completely accurate.
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I've read a few articles which mentioned that although Motorola is now owned by Google, they are in fact keeping a "firewall" between the two companies. This could explain why the Moto X was released with 4.2 instead of 4.3.
Also, based on what I've seen in recent trends, carriers will be releasing Android OS updates over the air as opposed the Motorola (at least here in the States). Some approach OS updates better than others. Verizon is known to take their time releasing updates to phones because of the extensive testing they do with an upcoming update for a particular device. Take for instance the Droid DNA, a device released close to the end of last year which is only now getting the update to 4.2 from 4.1. I sincerely hope the Moto X does not see such neglect when it comes to future updates but I also wouldn't be surprised.

Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.

with the ability to flash roms coming soon this may not matter
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scorpion667 said:
Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
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I'd like to believe that Moto offers better support than Samsung and HTC. The 4.3 update is still in the works but hard to put an eta on it as they probably still need time to make sure the moto apps and hardware is optimized to work properly. Other than improved performance and stability, I'm not missing anything by using 4.2.2 for now.

One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.

housry23 said:
One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.

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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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This. If it's going to take moto two months, expect longer because it will need to be blessed by the carriers before OTA updates are pushed out.

I wonder where the T Mobile X fits in then... Will it be updated straight from Moto? If not that might be a big problem because T Mobile obviously doesn't even support the phone.

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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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You're right. I actually had a big long post about how once Motorola gets the code, implements their features, at&t still has to test it and approve. Hopefully, since it's basically stock android, it won't take as long because the skinning process doesn't have to happen.
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Motorola has a very mixed record so far with their updates. The OG Droid was actually quite good at getting updates in a timely manner and only trailed the Nexus by a few weeks. After Motorola switched to Blur though for all their devices they lagged behind by a few months and even though with Jelly Bean they removed most of the Blur apps in favor of stock, that was still nearly what 9 months after 4.1's source was released before the Razr, Bionic, Droid 4 all got it. In fact for a while there they were one of the slowest at releasing their updates.
Now the Moto X is a new beast though and different from what Motorola has done now so it's hard to say. All the previous devices were part of the "old motorola" and the X is the first device of the "new motorola". The X is almost pure stock so there is very little tweaking that will need to be done. They just need to add in support for their Camera App, Active Display and Touchless Controls, do any kernel updates/bug fixes and then test/resolve any new bugs that popped up in 4.3. Motorola has said that an update is in the works and will come out soon with many improvements for the Moto X. Is this 4.3 or just a newer 4.2.2 build? We don't know.
I'd like to imagine that we will see 4.3 released sometime between now and early October on all carriers considering Samsung announced they will begin to roll out 4.3 to the SGS4, SGS3 and Note2. If Motorola is the first to release a stable, solid build of 4.3 for their new X8 devices and continues to keep up with their updates in a quick and timely manner, it would do a lot to rebuild their name. Right now we just have to wait and see if Motorola is serious about getting better about releasing timely updates or not.

clankfu said:
I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
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I'm in contact with Punit Soni (Moto X product Manager). He's very active on Google+ and he addressed the update and OTA of 4.3 questions. He said when they officially released the device to distributors, 4.3 just got announced. So it was either delay the Moto X and piss off many pre-ordering customers, or continue with the primary plan and push through with 4.2.2.
He said the update is "Coming soon" as they always say, and he promises many fixes like Camera improvements, Picasa or Google Photos sync for Gallery, and OS 4.3 very soon.

"When will then be now? Soon!"

EDIT: wrong thread.

linuxgator said:
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
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Each OEM gets the source at the same time. Makes no difference. The only reason it takes so long is a mixture between putting loads of framework in. And wanting to get new hardware out.
Moto, working with next to stock android, will be much much faster. No they dont get special treatment per se. But time will be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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GR36 said:
But time should be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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FIFY

If it goes the way the Tmobile nexus 4 goes than it will be updated right away. My son has the nexus4 bought directly from Tmobile store & it receives updates along with those bought directly from Google. I know its still a nexus and the moto x isn't but from what I understand the Tmobile version of the x doesn't have any carrier installed stuff on it, so hopefully it will be treated as a device like the Google editions.
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ATT XT1097 lollipop discussion.

figured i would start a thread for this since theres a verizon one.

Get mine tomorrow

Seems like the wait for lollipop will be longer than I thought. Hopefully we get a good build!
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Overall my AT&T Moto X works very well minus a few small bugs. I'd rather wait a few more weeks to get a very stable and solid 5.0 update than be first in line and have some bugs to deal with for the next 2-3 months while I have to wait for another update to resolve them. I am looking forward though to 5.0 and being able to then root my phone.

Maybe they're just going in numerical order. Lol xt1096, 1097..maybe someone's just extremely ocd at Motorola

Patiently waiting impatiently.

mistermartian said:
Patiently waiting impatiently.
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Yeah, I check for updates every couple days.

I think the above poster was correct when they said they're going in order. AT&T should roll this out before Thanksgiving.

wheres att ???? =/ just waiting

fingers crossed for an update tomorrow.

yea no update yet for me. verizon got it, no idea what the hold up is for att there slacking

Anyone got any updates on this or heard anything

Not even so much as a soak test yet, looks like it will be a while
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Disappointed with att. At least a soak test for those who like to try beta versions.

Maybe its not ATT fault.
Here in Brazil we also have the XT1097, both as a carrier branded (with the usual bloatware) and with a contract/bloatware free version bought directly from the Motorola Brazilian Store. None of the XT1097 versions have seen a soak test, not even the Motorola version.

I have the xt1097 from TELUS carrier in Canada with absolutely no bloat or carrier branding. Still no news. I hope that they at least update all the xt1097s at once.

ATT and Verizon firmwares are in the same level of modification, i guess. So, if Verizon is already pushing Lollipop, why att is not? I can only think that the problem is with att.

I bought my moto directly from motorola and they sendt a XT1097 (i'm in México) so i'm still waiting, I don't care about the soak, i just want the real thing.
i'm in a hurry to root it, but i want my OTA first.

Guys, do you really prefer those buggy builds? Think about it: Those builds that leaked before (. 5 and. 6) are full of bugs... just check the lollipop bugs thread. Yeah I am extremely anxious about it too but we have to keep in mind that this is android's biggest update to date, I don't think it would be great to get just some build first instead of getting something that actually delivers a great experience.

Verizon already have .11 and less bugs. As i said, a soak test program is for those who want to test, even with bugs.
But never mind, we just need to wait patiently, its our only choise.

What happened to the soak test?

The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?

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The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
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Was it truly weeks ago or was the leaked announcement weeks ago?

Emails were sent on January 28th

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Emails were sent on January 28th
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Again, does that confirm that the soak took place already? The Maxx users are saying their soak test was put on hold. Maybe it was for the Turbo as well?

aka848 said:
The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
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I received the surveymonky email on Jan 28th., but what I think happened was they were originally gonna soak test 5.0 or 5.0.2 and then when google release 5.1 they changed their minds to just release 5.1 as the first lollipop update to the turbo. I could be wrong but it does seem like something changed, because normally there isn't this much of a gap between surveymonkey email and actual soak.

It got delayed. They ran into a few things last week, whether its bugs or VZ approval. Should see it later this week or early next week.

gaels75 said:
It got delayed. They ran into a few things last week, whether its bugs or VZ approval. Should see it later this week or early next week.
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Not to be rude but we've heard this before. Everyone that claims to KNOW something doesn't have a source.

theycallmerayj said:
Not to be rude but we've heard this before. Everyone that claims to KNOW something doesn't have a source.
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Its probably because there not allowed to say anything about something they may know about the thing they can't talk about, this would also include reveling sources about where said something was obtained.

pmekdahl01 said:
Its probably because there not allowed to say anything about something they may know about the thing they can't talk about, this would also include reveling sources about where said something was obtained.
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Good point. He seems pretty sure about this week or early next so maybe he has a source at Verizon/Moto and can't say.

For maxx invites comes a tree days agos, soak dont put hold, only forum get closed.

Maybe it will be 5.1 so that the droid turbo is the very first phone to have it here in the US

wadamean said:
Maybe it will be 5.1 so that the droid turbo is the very first phone to have it here in the US
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That would be great, wouldn't it? I hope this is the case.

aka848 said:
That would be great, wouldn't it? I hope this is the case.
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I'm just sitting here in the UK with my imported Droid Turbo waiting to get Lollipop to walk around as one of the few peeps in the UK with the device....come on Verizon!

Wiggz said:
I'm just sitting here in the UK with my imported Droid Turbo waiting to get Lollipop to walk around as one of the few peeps in the UK with the device....come on Verizon!
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Same here in Germany

I am in the Droid Turbo soak test personally. Let me say this, we know just as much as you do. A Motorola engineer recently made a post that they were facing delays and that he could not provide any further details. But they were working as hard as they could to bring us a release. For this delay, I REALLY hope it's Android 5.1. Otherwise, my image of Motorola's speed will be tarnished. Practically every flagship now is currently/has already gotten the update to Lollipop.

For maxx should arrives soon

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For maxx should arrives soon
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did u have more details??
maybe u received some email )) ^^ ??
u have Brasil or Puerto Rico version?

Honestly, I'm a little disappointed. One of the reasons I bought this phone was due to Motorola's timely software updates. Besides a few moto software tricks there's really nothing different. I know some people will say "don't buy a phone for what it might do," or "We want a stable build with no bugs." Seeing as most of their flagship phones and even budget phones are on 5.0 or higher, I'm disappointed. I get that Verizon has a big role in this but the Droid lineup seems to always to be in good favor with Verizon, but this is starting to get frustrating.
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danger2u said:
did u have more details??
maybe u received some email )) ^^ ??
u have Brasil or Puerto Rico version?
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Brazil, in think comes soon because of soak

I feel for the Motorola team
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I am in the Droid Turbo soak test personally. Let me say this, we know just as much as you do. A Motorola engineer recently made a post that they were facing delays and that he could not provide any further details. But they were working as hard as they could to bring us a release. For this delay, I REALLY hope it's Android 5.1. Otherwise, my image of Motorola's speed will be tarnished. Practically every flagship now is currently/has already gotten the update to Lollipop.
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Thanks! I had no idea that the soak was delayed. I thought they had delivered it to people and for some reason it was not getting pushed out to the rest of us. I am all for giving motorola time to squash all the bugs they need to, but I feel like they could be a little a bit more transparent.
If Motorola is trying to push 5.1, and anyone working there is reading this, thank you! I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be a developer at Motorola right now. This company has changed hands multiple times since the 18 month development cycle of this phone (thanks to Verizon's rules). These devs have likely been working day and night to produce a stable build of lillipop for Motorola's flagships devices, all while Google employees, formerly co-workers of these Motorola developers, have simultaneously been doing the same for the base lollipop build with significantly better resources at their disposal and without a time crunch. Just as these Motorola devs have made 5.0 stable 5.1 comes along fixing many of the issues that delayed 5.0 on our devices to begin with. Much of Motorola's dev work and code is thrown out in favor of using what Google provided in 5.1 and now these poor devs still have to work to make 5.1 work knowing that with each passing day every user is getting more frustrated with you.
THANK YOU DEVS, we appreciate you, and we understand. Be proud of the work you do, like those of you that worked on the original DROID, who felt confident enough to mold MOTOROLA ENGINEERING into the plastic under the batter cover. I hope to see the fruits of your labor soon.

Android upgrade report card: Grading the manufacturers on Marshmallow

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...d-upgrade-report-card-marshmallow.html?page=2
A BIG FAT "F"
Length of time for upgrade to reach current flagship: 65 days (51.6/60 points)
Length of time for upgrade to reach previous-gen flagship: 74 days for the unlocked model -- though with all U.S. carrier models abandoned (0/30 points)
Communication: Poor (0/10 points)
An Android manufacturer has never fallen as fast and hard as what we've seen with Motorola these past couple years. In a matter of months, Moto went from being the shining example of what an Android device-maker should be to being a bitter disappointment Android fans won't soon forgive. (So much for that "nothing will change" transition in ownership, right?)
Following last year's 65% "D" grade for Android upgrades, the Lenovo-owned Motorola gets a big fat embarrassing "F" for the mess it made of this year's Marshmallow rollout. While it did do a reasonably decent (though nowhere near the standard it had maintained in the past) job at getting Android 6.0 out to its current and previous-gen flagships, it did so with one major asterisk: the outright abandonment of all U.S. carrier models of its barely-one-year-old 2014 device.
Worse yet, Motorola stayed insultingly silent on the subject, without so much as an explanation -- let alone any sort of attempt to make things right with customers who had bought into its "ongoing reliable upgrades" message. It was a slap in the face to those who trusted the company, and even if Motorola recovers and manages to do decently well moving forward, it's an incident smartphone shoppers would be wise to remember.

They were excellent when it came to 2013 devices...but those were before the Lenovo takeover if I remember correctly
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out

I really think we won't see it, like the Moto X Play 2014. We'll just get an out-of-the-blue message saying "SORRY". My next phone will be a Nexus, i'm done with Motonovo

Yep, l thinking about a Nexus myself, and see what Project Fi is all about. Sick of Verizon also.

Yea i'm on the same boat as you guys. Nexus may be my next phone.

im still not ready to leave my turbo, i dont need their updates. we have our own right here.

tuzky said:
In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
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In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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Metfanant said:
In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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i think the lenovo has make every dev-guys to run their VIBE rom project，their 2014 device named k3note has already update to mm。
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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No, both are equally at fault. If it were only on Verizon then the non Turbo branded quark devices would already be updated.

alex_is_the_1 said:
I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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VZW had no problem pushing the updates for the 2013 Droids...they were the first non-nexus phones to get updates...
Wanna know what the difference was? Those phones were made when Google owned Motorola...our phones are under the control of Lenovo...
I have no love for VZW...and while they may slow things down in many cases, the fact remains...if a quality update is delivered to them, they will push it out...
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.

someguyatx said:
Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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No sir...
The Moto X update to Kit Kat was pushed out starting Nov 19th according to this article...and it was the FIRST to get it...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ryone-by-updating-its-moto-x-to-kitkat-first/
Just a month later the update had finished soak testing and was starting to get pushed to the Droid line...
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/1...-4-kit-kat-update-starting-today/#more-127805
I wouldn't call that lagging way behind at all...it was still quicker than most phones...
As I've always said...VZW sucks, but they had no problem getting updates out to Moto devices when Google ran the show...so I blame Lenovo...
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..

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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Yeah I saw that too, the Maxx 2 came out in Oct and I think this is its first update. I used one briefly but it had screen issues so ended up returning it for another turbo.

Just filled out a droid turbo soak test survey let's hope this is a good sign of things to come

I also received an invitation for this.

I thought I signed up for these, but have never gotten one. I really hope this means we get Marshmallow soon!

I guess they didn't like my feedback from the last soak. I haven't gotten anything.