ATT XT1097 lollipop discussion. - X 2014 General

figured i would start a thread for this since theres a verizon one.

Get mine tomorrow

Seems like the wait for lollipop will be longer than I thought. Hopefully we get a good build!
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Overall my AT&T Moto X works very well minus a few small bugs. I'd rather wait a few more weeks to get a very stable and solid 5.0 update than be first in line and have some bugs to deal with for the next 2-3 months while I have to wait for another update to resolve them. I am looking forward though to 5.0 and being able to then root my phone.

Maybe they're just going in numerical order. Lol xt1096, 1097..maybe someone's just extremely ocd at Motorola

Patiently waiting impatiently.

mistermartian said:
Patiently waiting impatiently.
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Yeah, I check for updates every couple days.

I think the above poster was correct when they said they're going in order. AT&T should roll this out before Thanksgiving.

wheres att ???? =/ just waiting

fingers crossed for an update tomorrow.

yea no update yet for me. verizon got it, no idea what the hold up is for att there slacking

Anyone got any updates on this or heard anything

Not even so much as a soak test yet, looks like it will be a while
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Disappointed with att. At least a soak test for those who like to try beta versions.

Maybe its not ATT fault.
Here in Brazil we also have the XT1097, both as a carrier branded (with the usual bloatware) and with a contract/bloatware free version bought directly from the Motorola Brazilian Store. None of the XT1097 versions have seen a soak test, not even the Motorola version.

I have the xt1097 from TELUS carrier in Canada with absolutely no bloat or carrier branding. Still no news. I hope that they at least update all the xt1097s at once.

ATT and Verizon firmwares are in the same level of modification, i guess. So, if Verizon is already pushing Lollipop, why att is not? I can only think that the problem is with att.

I bought my moto directly from motorola and they sendt a XT1097 (i'm in México) so i'm still waiting, I don't care about the soak, i just want the real thing.
i'm in a hurry to root it, but i want my OTA first.

Guys, do you really prefer those buggy builds? Think about it: Those builds that leaked before (. 5 and. 6) are full of bugs... just check the lollipop bugs thread. Yeah I am extremely anxious about it too but we have to keep in mind that this is android's biggest update to date, I don't think it would be great to get just some build first instead of getting something that actually delivers a great experience.

Verizon already have .11 and less bugs. As i said, a soak test program is for those who want to test, even with bugs.
But never mind, we just need to wait patiently, its our only choise.

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What happened to the soak test?

The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
aka848 said:
The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
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Was it truly weeks ago or was the leaked announcement weeks ago?
Emails were sent on January 28th
aka848 said:
Emails were sent on January 28th
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Again, does that confirm that the soak took place already? The Maxx users are saying their soak test was put on hold. Maybe it was for the Turbo as well?
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The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
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I received the surveymonky email on Jan 28th., but what I think happened was they were originally gonna soak test 5.0 or 5.0.2 and then when google release 5.1 they changed their minds to just release 5.1 as the first lollipop update to the turbo. I could be wrong but it does seem like something changed, because normally there isn't this much of a gap between surveymonkey email and actual soak.
It got delayed. They ran into a few things last week, whether its bugs or VZ approval. Should see it later this week or early next week.
gaels75 said:
It got delayed. They ran into a few things last week, whether its bugs or VZ approval. Should see it later this week or early next week.
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Not to be rude but we've heard this before. Everyone that claims to KNOW something doesn't have a source.
theycallmerayj said:
Not to be rude but we've heard this before. Everyone that claims to KNOW something doesn't have a source.
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Its probably because there not allowed to say anything about something they may know about the thing they can't talk about, this would also include reveling sources about where said something was obtained.
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Its probably because there not allowed to say anything about something they may know about the thing they can't talk about, this would also include reveling sources about where said something was obtained.
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Good point. He seems pretty sure about this week or early next so maybe he has a source at Verizon/Moto and can't say.
For maxx invites comes a tree days agos, soak dont put hold, only forum get closed.
Maybe it will be 5.1 so that the droid turbo is the very first phone to have it here in the US
wadamean said:
Maybe it will be 5.1 so that the droid turbo is the very first phone to have it here in the US
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That would be great, wouldn't it? I hope this is the case.
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That would be great, wouldn't it? I hope this is the case.
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I'm just sitting here in the UK with my imported Droid Turbo waiting to get Lollipop to walk around as one of the few peeps in the UK with the device....come on Verizon!
Wiggz said:
I'm just sitting here in the UK with my imported Droid Turbo waiting to get Lollipop to walk around as one of the few peeps in the UK with the device....come on Verizon!
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Same here in Germany
I am in the Droid Turbo soak test personally. Let me say this, we know just as much as you do. A Motorola engineer recently made a post that they were facing delays and that he could not provide any further details. But they were working as hard as they could to bring us a release. For this delay, I REALLY hope it's Android 5.1. Otherwise, my image of Motorola's speed will be tarnished. Practically every flagship now is currently/has already gotten the update to Lollipop.
For maxx should arrives soon
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For maxx should arrives soon
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did u have more details??
maybe u received some email )) ^^ ??
u have Brasil or Puerto Rico version?
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed. One of the reasons I bought this phone was due to Motorola's timely software updates. Besides a few moto software tricks there's really nothing different. I know some people will say "don't buy a phone for what it might do," or "We want a stable build with no bugs." Seeing as most of their flagship phones and even budget phones are on 5.0 or higher, I'm disappointed. I get that Verizon has a big role in this but the Droid lineup seems to always to be in good favor with Verizon, but this is starting to get frustrating.
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did u have more details??
maybe u received some email )) ^^ ??
u have Brasil or Puerto Rico version?
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Brazil, in think comes soon because of soak
I feel for the Motorola team
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I am in the Droid Turbo soak test personally. Let me say this, we know just as much as you do. A Motorola engineer recently made a post that they were facing delays and that he could not provide any further details. But they were working as hard as they could to bring us a release. For this delay, I REALLY hope it's Android 5.1. Otherwise, my image of Motorola's speed will be tarnished. Practically every flagship now is currently/has already gotten the update to Lollipop.
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Thanks! I had no idea that the soak was delayed. I thought they had delivered it to people and for some reason it was not getting pushed out to the rest of us. I am all for giving motorola time to squash all the bugs they need to, but I feel like they could be a little a bit more transparent.
If Motorola is trying to push 5.1, and anyone working there is reading this, thank you! I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be a developer at Motorola right now. This company has changed hands multiple times since the 18 month development cycle of this phone (thanks to Verizon's rules). These devs have likely been working day and night to produce a stable build of lillipop for Motorola's flagships devices, all while Google employees, formerly co-workers of these Motorola developers, have simultaneously been doing the same for the base lollipop build with significantly better resources at their disposal and without a time crunch. Just as these Motorola devs have made 5.0 stable 5.1 comes along fixing many of the issues that delayed 5.0 on our devices to begin with. Much of Motorola's dev work and code is thrown out in favor of using what Google provided in 5.1 and now these poor devs still have to work to make 5.1 work knowing that with each passing day every user is getting more frustrated with you.
THANK YOU DEVS, we appreciate you, and we understand. Be proud of the work you do, like those of you that worked on the original DROID, who felt confident enough to mold MOTOROLA ENGINEERING into the plastic under the batter cover. I hope to see the fruits of your labor soon.

Snapdragon receives lollipop

The time is almost here for lollipop to hit the states. The sm-n910f has received it's long awaited upgrade to 5.0.1, I'm guessing we will be any day now.
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-4-n910f-note-3-lte-lollipop-587358/
Not if the carriers just received the update. Could be another whole month until they get it updated with bloat and such.
Skizzy034 said:
Not if the carriers just received the update. Could be another whole month until they get it updated with bloat and such.
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Only hope for sooner is if Samsung released the build to the Carriers already and had been letting them tweak it(fatten it). I doubt this is the case, but one can hope...LOL
Best if we keep the hopefuls posts in one place, no?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/lollipop-coming-to-na-galaxy-devices-t2989077

[Confirmed] Verizon Nexus 6 on March 12th with 5.1 - 5.1 for us too?

So according to this the Verizon Nexus 6 will come with 5.1 Lollipop. Does this mean that Motorola will rollout Lollipop to the DT around this time? And will it be 5.1 Lollipop?
Verizon's Nexus 6 could arrive very soon http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/27/verizon-nexus-6/ via Engadget Android
Update: Its been confirmed that the Nexus 6 will drop on Verizon tomorrow and with 5.1 Lollipop. No word on a locked down BL though.
Google's Nexus 6 will finally reach Verizon on March 12th http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/11/google-nexus-6-for-verizon/ via Engadget Android
While the Nexus 6 has been confirmed to have 5.1, no word has been given about the DT being upgraded to 5.1 or any other version of Lollipop as of yet.
So according to what?
Sorry forgot to attach the link - OP updated
I'm hoping we are updated by then, but I seriously doubt that it will be 5.1, most likely 5.0.2 which has been cycling through the Moto line.
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I'm hoping we are updated by then, but I seriously doubt that it will be 5.1, most likely 5.0.2 which has been cycling through the Moto line.
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5.1 is already out for limited devices. We may get 5.1 after all said and done
True, we most likely get 5.1, I just don't think this update. Most likely the next update, which should be faster once we are on lollipop.
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So according to this the Verizon Nexus 6 will come with 5.1 Lollipop. Does this mean that Motorola will rollout Lollipop to the DT around this time? And will it be 5.1 Lollipop?
Verizon's Nexus 6 could arrive very soon http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/27/verizon-nexus-6/ via Engadget Android
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Motorola wont roll out anything the update will come from Verizon not Motorola.
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Motorola wont roll out anything the update will come from Verizon not Motorola.
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lol! Nope... Verizon just approves the Update.. Rest of the work is done by Motorola! IF you look at the Logcat you will see the link from where the Update is downloaded off n its the Motorola Servers...
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lol! Nope... Verizon just approves the Update.. Rest of the work is done by Motorola! IF you look at the Logcat you will see the link from where the Update is downloaded off n its the Motorola Servers...
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Keep dreaming, that update will come from Verizon just like all updates before, Verizon gets the update bloats the hell out of it and then releases it.
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Keep dreaming, that update will come from Verizon just like all updates before, Verizon gets the update bloats the hell out of it and then releases it.
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Nope... U think Verizon sits n adds bloat n release the software? Nope.... They give the apps that need to be added to Moto's software Developers... the Verizon framework is allover the System partition on the turbo, so its not just adding a bunch of apps its integrated deep... Then Motorola makes loads of builds with one build a day n test the siftware on prototype phones... Once they feel the software is stable enough then send it to Verizon for approval... If Verizon is not satisfied with the bloat, they reject it and Motos gotta start adding the bloat n test it out again...
Not holding my breath on any updates soon on the Turbo. This phone has been out for over half a year now with nothing in the works. For a near stock phone I'm not sure why it's taking a back seat to all of these other devices that are getting Lollipop. So much for my decision to go with a Motorola device because of a so-called quick update schedule.
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Not holding my breath on any updates soon on the Turbo. This phone has been out for over half a year now with nothing in the works. For a near stock phone I'm not sure why it's taking a back seat to all of these other devices that are getting Lollipop. So much for my decision to go with a Motorola device because of a so-called quick update schedule.
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Nothing in the works eh? So there have been NO updates then?
Oh and its been 4 months, but what's rounding it up by another two gonna hurt? It makes it more dramatic.
Everyone wants Lollipop, but doesn't care that it is less stable than Kitkat. Lollipop is just another ICS repeat. ICS didn't start becoming truly stable until 4.1, which Google for some reason deserved a name change. It took forever for devices to update to ICS, and by the time some did, Jellybean was out. Lollipop is a full point release, and major Android overhaul. This is not a 4.0 -> 4.1 -> 4.3 -> 4.4 transition. This is a 4.4 -> 5.0 transition and major parts of Adroid have been reworked. It isn't just a theme. It hasn't been a smooth launch. Verizon is strict with their testing, and we all know that. They are not going to let an OS less stable than its predecessor pass testing on one of their flagship devices. Despite what you want to believe, the Turbo is their specific flagship and they will want it to be the most stable.
Hey, I want Lollipop too. However, Im willing to take the instability with it. Verizon apparently is not after seeing how it fared on the X. The truth has always been out there, no matter how much people want to ignore it: If you want the ultimate network and stability, you got Verizon. If you want bleeding edge software on your devices, you go elsewhere.
So to be frank, anyone who bought the Turbo expecting blazing fast updates should blame their own misconceptions.
You can get excited about two minor updates with imperceptible bug fixes but I'm referring to OS updates.
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You can get excited about two minor updates with imperceptible bug fixes but I'm referring to OS updates.
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Then you shouldn't be on Verizon. Verizon has had a few quick updates over the years, but it doesn't erase all the slow ones.
This is nothing new.
It sucks, but sometimes the bitter truth is what people need. I only stick with Verizon because I am potentially on call 24/7 and my phone at work is tied into my cell phone. I need a reliable carrier and due to where I live, where I travel, and where I work, Verizon is the most reliable.
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Then you shouldn't be on Verizon. Verizon has had a few quick updates over the years, but it doesn't erase all the slow ones.
This is nothing new.
It sucks, but sometimes the bitter truth is what people need. I only stick with Verizon because I am potentially on call 24/7 and my phone at work is tied into my cell phone. I need a reliable carrier and due to where I live, where I travel, and where I work, Verizon is the most reliable.
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By far most reliable for me. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept of XLTE or how it ties in with VoLTE but since the DT had it's second VoLTE update I haven't dropped one call and with XLTE I'm on LTE 97% even underground here in Chicago. And I make a lot of calls everyday. We all want updates as soon as possible but as long as what we have works then I can wait.
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Nope... U think Verizon sits n adds bloat n release the software? Nope.... They give the apps that need to be added to Moto's software Developers... the Verizon framework is allover the System partition on the turbo, so its not just adding a bunch of apps its integrated deep... Then Motorola makes loads of builds with one build a day n test the siftware on prototype phones... Once they feel the software is stable enough then send it to Verizon for approval... If Verizon is not satisfied with the bloat, they reject it and Motos gotta start adding the bloat n test it out again...
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Gundabolu is correct all Verizon does is test and certify the update. Motorola is the one to actually push it
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Gundabolu is correct all Verizon does is test and certify the update. Motorola is the one to actually push it
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Does not change the fact that Verizon releases it, then it is pushed to us.
Chicken/Egg
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Does not change the fact that Verizon releases it, then it is pushed to us.
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No not at all nor does it change the fact that Verizon is slow to approve updates. I still feel this time around though that moto is being fairly slow at getting this update out but who knows
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No not at all nor does it change the fact that Verizon is slow to approve updates. I still feel this time around though that moto is being fairly slow at getting this update out but who knows
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Agreed, Verizon always seems to be the last to update.

I think T Mobile forgot about us

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No, I think T-mobile just doesn't want to release garbage.
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Yea agreed, and 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 are garbage, was really hoping it was 5.1 that was taking so much time.
And aosp is on 5.1.1. The Canadian version is super smooth with zero bugs. I'd suggest using the unmodded version. The modes versions all have bugs and battery is stellar on the unmodded version
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I mean it saddens me when other carriers have been updated already with the new update we're here we on tmobile unfortunately are stuck in the past and while there are many other great ROMs out there ported from different devices it makes me a little sad in the inside of my heart inthelittle flasher is really sad and disappointed by the lack of love the tmobile actually shows us I mean I get it we get unlocked bootloaders which most definitely is a plus but if we don't get updates before the likes of Sprint or AT&T it makes me sad and I want to cry show this post some love if you feel the same LS petition T Mobile
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This same crap happened on the M8... people crying about not being first with the update while other carriers pushed the update before them that left a huge security flaw unfixed. T-Mobile finally released their update (4.4.3) and it included the fixes from 4.4.4 which no other carrier had done. That's a win for T-Mobile IMO... The other carriers had to play catch up. It's easy to forget that things like this take time and each carrier's quality control is much different. I personally don't get people like you who complain about things such as this when those that have received the update from their carriers are left with buggy phones... Do you want a buggy phone? Or do you want it to be flawless? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
Every carrier has reported bugs , hell i even bought my daughter an S5 a month ago and it came with lollipop and was a disaster kept freezing and restarting so much i returned it and got her one with 4.4.4 installed on it so it would act right. Id rather them take their time and give us a less buggy version . But honestly i really dont care im looking forward to the Note 5 this year
The update is incoming
Update is incoming possibly this week, it's been approved: http://www.tmonews.com/2015/04/lollipop-update-rollout-for-t-mobile-galaxy-note-4-starting-next-week/

Guess when Verizon Note 4 will get MM 6.0.1~

Sprint MM 6.0.1 was released as an Odin flash by someone, with OTA likely coming within the next few days.
T-Mobile MM 6.0.1 rumored to be released within the next 2 weeks.
Verizon MM 6.0.1 -- going by Verizon's history versus the other US carriers, I guess we can expect MM 6.0.1 by about October 2016? Knowing Verizon, they will purposely delay the release until at least the Note 6 is released, and possibly even a month later because f*** the current devices owners! Buy a new f***ing device if you want an updated OS! So maybe November 2016 and Verizon says you'll like it!
The good news is, now that we have all have Developer Edition Verizon Note 4's, any enterprising dev can take it upon themselves to port one of the other carrier Note 4 MM 6.0.1 releases to our phones :laugh:
I predicted about 4 months ago that we'd get MM around the end of June to early July. However, with Verizon's recent flurry of "fast" updates to MM on LG devices and most of the other Samsung handsets, I'll revise that date to end of May to early June. I am also predicting that the Galaxy Tab S models will never receive MM in any official form and will be EOL'd with 5.0.2
That's a bold prediction and I hope you're right!
I just don't want to wait the usual 6 months on Verizon Time to get updates lol
I'm willing to bet we are gonna wait a bit longer then what verizon planned due to the recent exploit found to unlock the bootloader.
No way they're gonna just let that slide without implementing a fix before a major update.
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As soon as I unlock this B**ch, and flash CM13! I'm sick of waiting for them.. my old Nexus 7 2013 has had marshmellow since last sept!
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I'm willing to bet we are gonna wait a bit longer then what verizon planned due to the recent exploit found to unlock the bootloader.
No way they're gonna just let that slide without implementing a fix before a major update.
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Well you can't exactly close this exploit without making it impossible for legitimate Samsung updates to write to the eMMC from what I know. That's how they found it in the first place, because Samsung found a problem with the eMMC in the S5 which they determined required patching and the only way to do it was overwrite a protected region using the special write command which isn't supposed to be public knowledge. So if you disable that, and you find a problem down the road, you just made your device unfixable.
Newer Samsung devices use UFS anyways so this isn't exactly an exploit with a lot of current device usefulness. Verizon has no choice but to let this one go.
The note 4 is just about at the end of its shelf life sales wise. I don't think they'll spend a dime more on support than they'll have to.
I was a long time Samsung user who ditched them around the S5/Note 3 days when they starting locking everything down tight. I did own a dev S5 and loved that phone when I had.
So as soon as I saw that the N4 was unlocked I scooped one up on Craigslist. There's no way I can use 5.1.1 after having 6.0 for so long on other devices. I'm on CM13 now which is pretty smooth but it has the normal CM bugs... Camera that works most of the time and only fails when someone is posing for a picture, flashlight won't come on after/during camera fail, occasional reboot, wonky navigation. I've had no data losses which was my biggest concern so I believe this is a rock solid CM build. But I've grown accustomed to everything working all of the time.
I was just about to say goodbye to this phone until I read this post. Maybe I'll stick it in a drawer and see if we get a MM port soon.
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Thanks for informing me on that. Haven't really kept up with all this as the past few phones I've owned have been locked down.
Assumed it'll be a simple patch for them.
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Sam Mobile has been busy with 6.0.1 odin files for various Note 4 variants. Here's what I was able to find.
SM-N910G - http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910G/
SM-N910P - http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910P/
SM-N910R4 - http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910R4/
SM-910U - http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910U/
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Drat.. no SM-N910V yet

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