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Cannot find off-contract atrix at ATT webpage

Hi all,
I am not in U.S. and want to buy an atrix.
I asked one of my friends in U.S. to buy one and hope to unlock it to use it.
But my friend told me the ATT web page only showed on-contract price(499-300=$199) to him, which is same to me. We cannot find the off-contract price page as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952384
He also called ATT local store but was also told currently there is no off-contract atrix.
But I do see so many friends in the forum pre-ordered off-contract atrix.
I don't know what is wrong.
Anyone can help me?
Thanks

The Atrix wlll be available at AT&T stores this Monday the 21st. Off contract price is now listed at $499. Best Buy and Amazon should have them soon also. Of course it remains to be seen if it can be unlocked. You may want to hold off until people get a chance to play with it although I know it is difficult to wait. I hear they are working on quadcore and much faster processors for next year. I hope to have my Atrix on monday.

Same here, iam living in Europe searching for a way to get a new nextgen android device asap.
...currently comparing atrix and sgs2.

sgs2 release one month later than atrix.
However it seems not stronger than atrix.
sgs2 has gyro 2.3rom, but no hdmi
moto has fingerprint reader, but locked bl, no gyro, 2.2rom
hope update to 2.3 or 2.4 soon
really hard to choose
currently I prefer atrix. as I guess tegra 2 is more powerful.
hope to see benchmarks of sgs2 for further comparison

$499 does not seem to be that expensive at all. The Nexus S is still at $529 at Best Buy, who will then buy that ?! (OK, you get 2.3 and unlocked bootloader) but from a hardware point of view the Atrix is probably much better off.

I also agree that $499 is not that expensive. But I am afraid not everyone can get an Atrix in that price.
From the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952384
, it seems only Premier users of att can pre-order an off-contract atrix.(at even lower price).
But the $499 price atrix does not show to other users in ATT web page. at least, I can not see.

Ok, the price for nexus s is too much now.
What i didnt liked at sgs is the cheap look and feel with this hardware. Maybe similar at sgs2...atrix seems to be the winner here.
Did anyone read about which camera wins in this battle?
What you guys think about the display comparison?
CPU power is not so important i think, anything dualcore is kind of overpowered these days.
What really sucks with the atrix is this encrypted bootloader.
I wanna use current custom roms without apps that no one needs, or at least the option to use things like launcher pro.
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ATT Site for the Atrix w/ pricing info
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639

johng75 said:
ATT Site for the Atrix w/ pricing info
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
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Read the thread title - it's for "off-contract" - the link you provided the OP was already aware of, he wants to know where it is available off-contract...

ATT posted $499.99 as the off contract price on there Facebook wall a couple of weeks ago...but I'm curious now as I dont see price on ATT.con
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Note keeping its value and gaining value

I have been looking for a note and noticed that the prices haven't came down and have risen in some stores. Thats pretty cool and shows its a great idea.

I'm selling my and Ebay for 600
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oh yes! I seen the cheapest one from Amazon Fulfilled was $630 last month...I got mine for $680 - $10 (credit for future purchase) on 12/30/2011.
Now the cheapest from Amazon seller is $725.

It is pretty remarkable. I got it for $649 from Amazon two weeks ago...now it's approaching $800.
Prices will tank once AT&T launches so if you are on the fence today, I'd sell while it's hot.
No mine isn't for sale

I wouldn't sell if I bought unlocked international for cheaper than $650. ATT locked down and filled with bloat will suck. I wish I hadn't dropped and cracked mine. It also shows that it is a product consumers really want.

falconeight said:
I wouldn't sell if I bought unlocked international for cheaper than $650. ATT locked down and filled with bloat will suck. I wish I hadn't dropped and cracked mine. It also shows that it is a product consumers really want.
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I don't think it is too wise to be getting the ATT version which is a big downgrade with its Qualcomm S3, especially the international version is also compatible with its network.

We got them all over hong kong. I spent 550 usd for this one.
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Only reason why prices are going up is because less people are importing the Note now that AT&T has announced its version. I guess from their perspective, some of these gray-market importers are worried that people might no longer purchase their stock now that it is available in the US.
Less supply = Price jump.

PoisonWolf said:
Only reason why prices are going up is because less people are importing the Note now that AT&T has announced its version. I guess from their perspective, some of these gray-market importers are worried that people might no longer purchase their stock now that it is available in the US.
Less supply = Price jump.
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I don't buy it new egg can't keep them in stock. On amazon they are going up in price when everything else decreases.

i have been looking for a galaxy note for a week and it is out of stock every where i have looked.

I noticed a general drop in supply and increase in demand for all devices, probably seasonal.
People want Samsung smartphones and there were supply problems. At some point, of 250 suppliers only 20 had the product in stock.
Also the S II increased in price and was/is available here in Europe for 450 euros, just 50 euros less then the Note. Supply dropped so much that even used S II could get more then 400 euros. The Note is at 500/550 euros here. Was sold out on Amazon (not amazon marketplace). At that moment the price of a used Note and a new Note were the same on Amazon Germany (marketplace).
But the Note is not the S II. The Note is a niche product and nobody knows how big this niche will be in the future.
On Ebay the best worldwide price for a new Note is 519 euros + shipping.
About the Note i717 version, it is not the same phone. The i717 version has lte but no exynos. It is has value in the US, but outside the US, in many countries it is not LTE compatible.
So outside the US, with the i717 version you do not get exynos and also do not have the benefit of LTE. And the i717 has this typically american modification of the 4 touch keys.

legion1911 said:
I noticed a general drop in supply and increase in demand for all devices, probably seasonal.
People want Samsung smartphones and there were supply problems. At some point, of 250 suppliers only 20 had the product in stock.
Also the S II increased in price and was/is available here in Europe for 450 euros, just 50 euros less then the Note. Supply dropped so much that even used S II could get more then 400 euros. The Note is at 500/550 euros here. Was sold out on Amazon (not amazon marketplace). At that moment the price of a used Note and a new Note were the same on Amazon Germany (marketplace).
But the Note is not the S II. The Note is a niche product and nobody knows how big this niche will be in the future.
On Ebay the best worldwide price for a new Note is 519 euros + shipping.
About the Note i717 version, it is not the same phone. The i717 version has lte but no exynos. It is has value in the US, but outside the US, in many countries it is not LTE compatible.
So outside the US, with the i717 version you do not get exynos and also do not have the benefit of LTE. And the i717 has this typically american modification of the 4 touch keys.
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In the States everything but the note has dropped. The Galaxy nexus is down and available everywhere and so is the s2.

When the US major carriers get their version specific hand sets you would see a sharp drop in prices, increase number of users/modders and even other unwelcome posts in the forums. Till then enjoy

EarlZ said:
When the US major carriers get their version specific hand sets you would see a sharp drop in prices, increase number of users/modders and even other unwelcome posts in the forums. Till then enjoy
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In the US the market for Note international is a small, unofficial, importers market.
Officially, the Note International does not exist on the normal US market. Samsung USA does not offer it or list it as an existing product.
Why should a product that does not exist on the US market fall in price?
It may even increase in price when people find out the international version is much better because it has exynos. With the price of i717 falling from everyone selling and the Note international price rising from everyone buying.

legion1911 said:
In the US the market for Note international is a small, unofficial, importers market.
Officially, the Note International does not exist on the normal US market. Samsung USA does not offer it or list it as an existing product.
Why should a product that does not exist on the US market fall in price?
It may even increase in price when people find out the international version is much better because it has exynos. With the price of i717 falling from everyone selling and the Note international price rising from everyone buying.
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99% of the users wont care for specs, what they care is about how they get the device and how easy it will be to obtain after market support and also those phones that come free or partially paid with the contract. But lets just wait and see.

EarlZ said:
99% of the users wont care for specs, what they care is about how they get the device and how easy it will be to obtain after market support and also those phones that come free or partially paid with the contract. But lets just wait and see.
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Does the international S2 cost more or less then the US S2 in the US?

legion1911 said:
Does the international S2 cost more or less then the US S2 in the US?
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More but not by much.

The thing with the Note is that once you use it you realise how fantastic it is. This feeds through to reviews and word of mouth. Was playing with a friends Galaxy S2 today and it felt so underwhelming and small . Samsung have redefined PDAs with this device. Can't imagine going to anything smaller or slower.

I bought the white note 5 days ago and I love every second using it. Its pure magic...
White is truly beautiful on this device.
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But once you go black, you never go back

GT-N5100 Note 8.0 3G

Does anyone know when the 3G version will be released? I have read in many reviews that battery life on the WiFi is not that impressive, do you think Samsung would ship the 3G version with a larger battery?

in Malaysia the Note 8 is launched with the 3G version already, on Friday.
all specs remain the same throughout

Shame it could have done with a bigger battery by all accounts. I'll still get one, (im)patiently waiting for a 3G version, any colour, any storage size in the UK.

I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought it last april 13 here in the Philippines, the battery is pretty good it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, the battery on this phone is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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genius24k said:
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought 7t past april 13 here in Philippines, the battery is pretty it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, battery is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?

agambhandari said:
Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Around 530USD, yeah the samsung book cover is free, they also did a free phone promo, you get to take home the samsung phone you draw from lot, most guy went home with the cheapest samsung phone including myself
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?

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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.

Juvenall said:
Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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I'm interested for the the international version.
Heard anything about that?

The 3G price would seem to be hovering around the $800 mark based on eBay listings for the GT-N5100, but it's availability still seems up in the air. Hopefully someone outside of the US can point you towards a reputable international seller with stock.

Wow. It will be so expensive.
Thanks for your help.

The 3G version retails around $580 in Asia. Prices will come down on eBay very soon.

I'm waiting for it in the US as well. There's a site called Negri Electronics located in Las Vegas, that has a pre order page for it, listed at $660 at the time of this post. From what I've heard, the international version should be released April 30, but I haven't found any confirmation. As far as releasing s US version, I'm sure they'll release an LTE version sooner or later for use with CDMA networks like Verizon and US Cellular, but if you plan on getting it going on T-Mobile (like me), it'll only run on their 1900mhz frequency, which allows phone calls, but mostly 2g data speeds, unless you're in an area where they've refarmed the 1900mhz frequency to run HSPA speeds. Good luck and let's hope they bring this bad boy to T-Mobile!
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^Yeah, I went ahead and put in my preorder for the 16GB 3G + WiFi N5100 from Negri Electronics last week. It was the least expensive site that I could find, and I know that they are a reputable seller. And since they are in Las Vegas shipping is relatively fast to the Los Angeles area.
Up until early yesterday the site said that the "Expected Availability" date was April 23rd, but just this morning (Los Angeles time) I checked again, and now it says May 8th. Gotta wait a bit longer now and I'm chomping at the bit as it is, LOL. Still, I wish it were closer to just ~$100 (or less) of a premium for the 3G/Phone version instead of the blatant raping that it is.
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
Yes. I still ordered one, but it was not an easy (or rational) decision that I made, LOL! It's actually just a bit depressing to contemplate spending so much for their "shiny plastic products", when the competition offer much nicer physical or cosmetic designs and materials (IMO), and at less cost.
I really believe that Samsung creates amazing products, and ergonomically I prefer most of their products over Apple's in that regard. However, they did miss the mark with the speaker and capacitive button placement on the Note 8.0. And I don't know what the designers were thinking with the camera protruding so much that the tab rocks from side-to-side when placed on a table, desk, etc. :/ So much for accurate use of the S-pen (the hero feature of this device)!
IMO, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is the ONLY Samsung mobile electronics device that I can think of where I feel they came even close to matching the build quality and physical design of their competition. But once again, they priced it way out of the market. :/
And I don't mind the use of plastics one bit if they are used properly like the polycarbonates used in some of the higher-end Nokia and HTC devices. I truly feel that when Samsung gets their build quality up to par that the vast majority of the public will have no problem paying Apple-level prices (or more), and they'll sell a bazillion just like Apple does. But they're demanding premium prices, even over what Apple demands, but for an inferior physical design/build quality (IMHO). Why does Samsung not "get this"?!? People expect a BMW or Mercedes when they pay the price for one, not a Citroen (no offense to any Citroen owners).
With the Galaxy S4, if Samsung had just stepped-up the build quality alone (plus the 13mp camera), and nothing more as compared to the GS3, I would have purchased it. But with the same 'ol shiny plastic, its just a "Meh" product to me.
Also, I was really hoping that they would have included the hardware FM Radio tuner on the International version of the Note 8.0, just as they did on the Int'l SGS2, SGS3, Note (N7000), and Note 2. Initially, I didn't think that I would use the FM tuner at all, but I've found that I use it quite a bit...saves quite a bit on data as opposed to streaming.
LOL, sorry that I veered so off topic, haha. /END OF RANT
I am very much looking forward to using the new Note 8.0!

Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?

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Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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I don't see that option anywhere on the phine, so i'm assuming 7ts not a feature
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Note 8 LTE
Any news about the LTE version? Which LTE bands? It should be already on the market.

genius24k said:
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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I meant to ask whether you also got the complementary 50 GB dropbox space with the 8.0.
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bbfoto said:
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.

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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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Agree, but Do you think that even more diversification would help Samsung?
I think they should think of introducing a Note 8.0 sans the digitiser. Then they can really target the iPad Mini. It would still be a great product as many online reviews (Engadget) claim so.
That would be the true spiritual successor to the 7.7
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Sagging sales...really?

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/21/lg-release-g-pad-tablet-more-overseas-markets.html
Gee, I wonder why sales are below expected in the US? Could it be Best Buy's epic failure at promoting the product? The people at BB should be running the NSA; they're better at keeping secrets.
Maybe LG should just rename it the Area 51 Pad...lots of people have heard of it but BB continues to deny it's existence.

No kidding! The Best Buy help weren't aware of it and took forever to find it in "the cage".

LG has officially jumped the shark.

I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.

Ya, BB has this thing in their phone department next to the G2. Like what?
They need this over with the other tablets, let alone the other 8" tablets. Luckily I knew where to look so i can get a hands on before deciding on a purchase online

The two BB near me do not even have it out in the phone area they have a picture of it in the G2 display but not the actual device.

It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...

BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.

At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.

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At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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I got mine on release date. They didn't have any on display and only one left in stock (other than the one that the guy tried to sell me the display unit and then noticed the computer said it was $1000 for it).

I visited my local Best Buy last night and they still don't have it on display (in tablet or phone area) or in stock. I really don't understand why LG has dropped the ball on this but it seems to be in line with about every other mobile company minus Apple and Samsung. Every display other than the Apple and Samsung displays looked cheap and run down. The Nexus 7 display looked fine, but they have a demo running on all of their models so you can't even get a real feel for how it works. If LG would put a nice display in the tablet area, these things would sell fast. I just hope enough sell to have a decent development community.

LG must not. want to be successful. they had it on display only at. best buy with the mobile phones. No advertising, ovepriced and lackluster support.
Whose poor ideas were this? only. 1 retailer in the US?
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Apparently, US sucks *JOKE*
Here in Europe you can get your G Pad in 95% of all the electronics shops. Its really strange what's going on in the US...

I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
I'm no stranger to Android (although I haven't spent a great deal of time on the latest hardware such as the HTC One, G2 or Galaxy S4) but I was always a little disappointed by the promise of "buttery smooth performance" from the Jellybean. I have a One X and also another tablet from Pipo running the RK3188 so it's no slouch but both are not what I would call a smooth experience (although my One X became a heck of a lot better after flashing Cyanogenmod). I originally came from iPhones and iPads so I was very disappointed in this regard.
Now with the G Pad, I finally know what "buttery smooth" feels like on an Android. The machine is just incredible with next to no interface lag at all and all the apps zip around without any effort. The Wi-Fi strength is also incredible, picking up my router from distances that my One X, iPad mini or iPhone 4S could never have.
For the sake of LG, I hope it really does well. They deserve it and will hopefully release more products like this in the future.

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I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
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As you pointed out low stock could mean heavy selling or it could mean low stock. Considering the way it started off in the US, i.e., few retailers and high prices, I'm inclined to think that LG does not have a lot of capacity to manufacture the units. Currently, we're seeing more discounting in the US and few more options for retailers, but it is still not widely sold. Could be that the situation will get better as they produce more units.

Awesome tablet but I just returned mine to BestBuy. I've been burnt before buy buying a killer device that no one else bought. Software updates don't come and accessories don't fit. Very sad that LG made this ridiculous exclusive distribution deal.

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It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
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I'm moving to the G Pad from the Lenovo A2109. A great device for the money...
GTabJosh GPadJosh

I played with one at best buy in southern il today it was next to the lg g2. I think I'll love this thing it's the perfect size and seems fast. I figure I'll keep for at least a year maybe longer if no one comes out with a better 8 inch tab. Samsung's note screen sucks I also looked at it today.
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MarkLI88 said:
I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
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Well Said Mark..
Even though they had no choice but to drop the price, still BestBuy does not even display it.
woody1 said:
BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
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Well Said Woody.
Fast forward to the present and it's still the same.. BestBuy could care less about this Tablet.. a lot of sales reps still don't know about it and it's still to this day not on display..
And that's sad.

I have posted similar thoughts about lack of promotion and availability for this tablet in other forums. It's very strange to have such a product available only at one B&M retailer (BB), and one online store (Newegg), and as a GPE version. With that approach you would think LG would have dumped a bunch of money into promoting the G Pad at BB. I've seen enough complaints in the reviews at Newegg (and elsewhere for units purchased from Newegg) to think they were chosen to handle the returns, refurbished units, and otherwise 'unclean' units.
Having said that, our BB started displaying a black version and a white version G Pad a couple of weeks ago. Last week they price matched Newegg's $280 for the black version for me when they were selling theirs for $350. The sales rep I got knew all about the G Pad and started trying to sell me on it but I already knew everything I needed to know.
Now VerizonWireless has started to sell it as well, with LTE. That could be a breakthrough for this tablet, especially with the pricing model they have ($100 with a 2 year contract through tomorrow, $149 after that, and $300 with no contract). Those prices are pretty enticing, I think, especially compared to BB's $350 everyday price for the WiFi only model. It will be interesting to see what happens with this tablet now that VW is in the picture.
Another thought. I've wondered, especially since the GPE came out, if maybe the G Pad is a trial run for a Nexus 8 replacement for the Nexus 7 and maybe a new Nexus 10 as well that a lot of folks are waiting for. Google got a lot of heat for the issues many folks had with the Gen2 Nexus 7 built by ASUS. Maybe they are testing the waters with LG for their next generation Nexus tablets and they and LG aren't necessarily concerned about how much money they make from this one. Just a thought.

UK pricing - going up, not down!

Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre

andrewilley said:
Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre
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When I saw the UK prices, it really baulked me.
I wanted a tablet that not only worked on Wi-Fi, but 3G, 4G/LTE, but I couldn't get one, especially a 32Gb model, which I consider to be the basement model (I wouldn't even consider a 16Gb).
I nearly paid the extra for an Ipad, however I decided to do more research and in the end I imported one from HK and even when I paid the VAT on it, it came in significantly cheaper than some of the prices of the 16Gb, Wi-Fi model.
It's worth doing a little extra research and importing it yourself and get a better specified machine, at a lower price.

I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
Andre

andrewilley said:
I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
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Why buy a 16Gb one? You can get the 32Gb version quite easily over there, but the currency conversion made it more expensive to buy it from the US, also I used PayPal to pay for it, so I had a bit of protection too.
My SM-P605 has a 64Gb card in and I'm already running low on memory, so I only hope that the new SanDisk 128Gb card comes out soon at a reasonable price.

I think a few places had them on offer just before and after christmas. Got mine from John Lewis for £399 in mid jan, took ages to find somewhere with one in stock at that price. There were quite a few places charging (or trying to) over £500! I think about £450 was the average book price but so many places were out of stock, or were trying to sell the old one still at £399........

They want to sell the new Tab 10.1 at such a high price, that they had to raise that of the note, to keep people from going straight for a note instead.

Let's be honest. Samsung charging iPad+ prices for the Pro/Note series takes balls of steel. Android tablets are bought typically by bargain seekers unwilling to pay iPad prices and are typically 7-8" and under $250. One thing iPads have always provided was a certain cache and snob appeal; everyone knows what everyone else paid. With the Pro/Note's Samsung seems to be raising the snob appeal. With the 16GB iPad Air at 399 GBP whether Samsung prices at 375 GBP or 425 GBP it's still close enough that if people really considered a high-end Android tablet as an iPad alternative they'd still buy it. I don't think someone predisposed to an iPad would say "I'll buy the Samsung Tab|Pro because I'll save 50 GBP." How many people think a high-end Android tablet is an iPad alternative is a whole different discussion and will be proven by the success (or failure) of Samsung's strategy in offering the Pro/Note series in the first place.
The G-Tab 4 certainly is a step down in design and specs so perhaps Samsung's strategy is to make the 4's their volume seller (EG: BMW 3-series) and the Pro/Note's their margin leader (EG: BMW 7-series).
Apparently the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 will pack a 10.6″ (odd, right?) display of 1280×800 pixels resolution and will run on Snapdragon 400 chipset with a quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex-A7 processor, Adreno 305 GPU and 1.5GB of RAM. Other revealed specs are the 3MP rear and the 1.2MP front camera, 16GB internal storage (12GB actually available) and the latest Android 4.4.2 KitKat OS. Digging into the GFX Benchmark database you can also find the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It has absolutely the same specs but less screen estate.​

I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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And gave up your 2 year UK warranty in the process. Or you can ship it round trip to HK at your expense to have warranty repairs done there. Does Samsung UK even service grey market devices for a fee? Samsung U.S. won't. I had to ship my UK-purchased i9100 back to the UK for a cracked bezel. Caveat Emptor.

The guy I bought it from is a dealer. He will sort any warranty issues and is in the UK. I spoke to him before I bought it.
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The guy I bought it from is a dealer.
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Well as long as you know a guy, you won't need Samsung's 2-year support then.
Andre

You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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Got mine from HK too. Not rooted yet but soon will and once it's 0x1 the difficulty of a warranty claim becomes irrelavent.
It cost me £439 inc. import duty.

Got a bill from FedEx . Contacted the seller and he's refunded me already! What a quality seller!
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