Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
There are threads where this should go.
There are people messing around with getting root, but nothing real serious. Unfortunately, the Verizon retail Note 4 isn't likely to ever get root, certainly not by March. No chance.
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jpfulton248 said:
Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
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I'm mobile, can't see the poll. I'd say between lollipop possibilities and recently discussed exploits, 60% chance.
Are there android phones in the past or current that has never seen root access?
The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
AtariDroid said:
They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
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This was actually my motivation for starting this thread. It seems like it's heating up a bit over there and I was wondering if that had changed anyone's opinion from the first "Root Poll" thread started a while ago. I'm certainly more optimistic after seeing all of the activity. On the other hand history does seem to shoe that the big advances seem to come from people who have been silently waiting in the wings.
Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
freddy0872 said:
Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
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Color Status Bar gives you full control over the notification panel without root. Helium retains a lot of TiBu functionality without root.
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Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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jpfulton248 said:
Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
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Not gonna happen
Not going to happen. Saving for iPhone 6 plus were jailbreak works no matter what carrier. Maybe the m8. Does the m8 have root on verizon even? It's going to take me a while to save 800 bucks, maybe we will get lucky. Stock would not be bad, but suckwiz is killing me.
I've been optimistic for those on the note 4 verizon version, unfortunatley the sad truth is, its either going to never come to note 4 or will be almost a year till root is achieved. I'm going to be staying with my note 3 for a long time. Possibly forever, until note edge/edge 2 note 5 gets root and custom recovery. Just my opinion, I'm cheering you guys on, it's hard without dev support. Once the dev support get's tripled than might have a better chance. But till then, your gonna have to wait it out. Best of luck and I'm rooting for your guys
I am not optimistic. I suppose it is the DE edition for the N5 or off to another manufacturer whose phone can be rooted.
Can't really put the blame on the manufacturer. I understand that tmobile variant of the Note 4 can be rooted. It's a carrier thing. Maybe Samsung just has a more secure method. But it's only there because Verizon wants it there.
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jpfulton248 said:
Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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why do you need to spoof GPS? you play Ingress? if you do, it's against tos
outcasted2003 said:
The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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You wouldn't like to be able to write to sdcard using any method of your choice?
Nope. MLB at Bat app. If I want to watch my home team I can't be in the tv/radio "broadcast territory" of either of the teams playing. On my previous phone I used "FakeGPS". Apk has to be copied to "/system/priv-app" in order to work with "Allow Mock Locations" turned off... MLB at Bat app knows if Allow Mock is turned on.
And maybe it was PEBKAC but I'm pretty sure I tried renaming a picture on my SD Card and was denied. Insanity.
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I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
ultramegaman963 said:
Yeah i dont think so..This community is pretty inactive.
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93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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You are forgetting that there is another variant of the Turbo, the Maxx one that will come with unlockable bootloader and free of Verizon crap. People will make it their way to get on of those, and probably development will be significantly more active that with Turbo.
On the other hand, Lollipop doesn't mean no more root, there are already devices with Lollipop and gained root few days ago, so it shouldn't be a worry.
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Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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rhouse1983 said:
Correct about root and lollipop but what's the point? Why do you NEED root and unlocked boot loader when lollipop gets here? Xposed won't work. Lollipop will be the os that negates the need for root.
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Xposed doesn't work yet, but likely will in the future. And there are other things to use root for than just Xposed. Such as Tasker, AdFree, Cerberus, etc. Root works great on my Nexus 7 with Lollipop, albeit without Xposed.
I mainly want/need root for ARLiberator or ARUnchained. Right now I can cast to my receiver and get sound but ARU gave full mirroring and allowed me to control my phone through my headunit (with root). Combined with Tasker to automate and it was fantastic. Xposed was real nice to have and I'm sure it will be updated for L at some point but I wasn't really using a whole lot on there I'll miss. Same goes for battery tweaker like Greenify. It was awesome with root and combined with Xposed but w/ the monster battery on this thing and the improvements with Project Volta I'm thinking I won't miss it so much.
Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
scottysize said:
Just want root access to freeze the VZW crap. My 2 cents.
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You can disable those apps now which is essentially the same thing.
Disable works just as good
Hadn't tried that. Just hid them using a launcher. OK, I'll disable them. Gracias!
I don't think it's hopeless. Just look at the bounty. No, it's no guarantee a dev will obtain that full amount but it show's that we're interested.
My guess and hope is that the Middle Man will come back and we'll be able to get unlock codes. It's our best shot.
In the meantime I'll stay at KitKat and cross my fingers. Root for me will give me custom DPI's which 4.7"+ phones need so badly. Besides that I'm doing just fine without root. Yeah, a few customization options would be fine but stock Motorola Android flies!
Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Without root you cannot manipulate the hosts file meaning you cannot block ads completely as you can with root. This alone is enough to make root worthwhile for me because I despise ads. I also like to change fonts at the system level and make many other customizations that require root and lollipop in no way negates those needs.
Not that my opinion or likes and dislikes matter. And that's the thing, people who say root is not needed speak for themselves just as I speak for myself and no one else. I don't ever say YOU need root or YOU do not need root because I have no business deciding what someone else does or does not need. Just saying...
I just think it's going to take some time gents. Phone has been out for what? Two weeks?
coreywallen said:
Only thing I really want/need is WiFi Tether. I've managed to tether using a USB but the process is way more complex and only allows for one device at a time.
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Agreed. This is the on thing I really want. I can live without the rest of the stuff. If I could pay for an app that worked for wifi tether I would do that and probably be happy without root all together.
I had the RAZR maxx HD. I thought we'd never get root for the longest time. It took a while - a bunch of months, at least, but we got it.
Now, the maxx HD never was nearly as popular as the droid turbo. That's a fact.
I'm sure someone out there will find a way. It's not about if, but when. That's my opinion, at least
2 things I want root for..
Messing with speaker output
And shutter speed of the camera
This phone will probably never be rooted, but if you aren't okay with that then why would you ever buy this device?
Maybe I'm not understanding this, but why is a developers edition needed? Why dont you just unlock developer mode on the phone you get? I did.
93fuelslut said:
I see there is a thread abt a reward for who ever makes an exploit to root the turbo.
I have an upgrade available but I don't want to waste it on a phone that can't even be rooted. Another thing is that this decision is on limited time. Because once the turbo gets lollipop , rooting will be out the window . so if you wait to long to get the turbo and it's shipped from the factory with lollipop, your screwed from the get go. So judging by the older lines of "moto droids" do you think or have read anything online abt development being slim to none?
Or any future plans on a developers edition ?
The nexus 6 is just to big for me. And the moto x is just not for me
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What makes you think L will be any worse than the latest 4.4.4. I think its a crap shoot it could happen either way. Do You Feel Lucky? HaHa
Seems after getting the Note 4 I have found my self wondering how I was ever with out root. Its crazy I cant stand this phone with out root. Its maddening to know I have Ads and apps I don't need. If Verizon didn't offer this phone at Christmas for 150.00 I would have never got it. #1 Reason no root was out yet but I took a chance. I know now or always have that you DEVS work hard to get stuff done. This was just a big ....
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!
Root will be out soon. I had no patience and switched to the Dev edition. I HATE ads and clustered samsung status bar with passion...
WhiteReign said:
Seems after getting the Note 4 I have found my self wondering how I was ever with out root. Its crazy I cant stand this phone with out root. Its maddening to know I have Ads and apps I don't need. If Verizon didn't offer this phone at Christmas for 150.00 I would have never got it. #1 Reason no root was out yet but I took a chance. I know now or always have that you DEVS work hard to get stuff done. This was just a big ....
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK!
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Articulated very nicely. I too long for Root and full control of my phone restored in my hands.
Op is the one who has joined XDA since 2011 and more than 400+ thanks (out of 500+ posts ) Posted this in the wrong forum accidentally or didn't know this is development forum
This is exactly why I sold my Verizon n4 and got a nexus 6. I have never had a phone without root. It was driving me nuts as well. I love the phone but couldn't deal with no root. I check back periodically to see if root has been achieved. Maybe one day I will have a n4 again.
Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
It's unfortunate. I would love to have root access on this phone for various reasons . My next phone will have it, even if I have to leave Verizon.
Sadly, the Verizon Note 4 is never going to see it...at least not before the next round of Note flagships
First post, just got a note 4. Had a rooted lg g2 before it. I'm loving the note so far (only had it about a week), but I use limelight to play computer games on my phone and it doesn't support mouse input very well without root access. . . As has been said I've disabled most of the bloat, but it would be nice to be able to just get rid of it. Also Sixaxis controller requires root to pair a ps3 or 4 controller to my phone... I hope root comes soon, maybe I should become a developer to help the cause. I too thank you for all your work.
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Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
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You can disable any app you want using adb shell.
This issue around root has been interesting for me. For awhile, I was like you, OP and many others who feel they must have root. However, after about 5 weeks of use now, I find myself perfectly happy with the Note 4 just the way it is and I wonder if I'll even take root-ability into consideration when making my next phone purchase.
mlin said:
You can disable any app you want using adb shell.
This issue around root has been interesting for me. For awhile, I was like you, OP and many others who feel they must have root. However, after about 5 weeks of use now, I find myself perfectly happy with the Note 4 just the way it is and I wonder if I'll even take root-ability into consideration when making my next phone purchase.
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I am with you. Root used to be mandatory IMHO, as phone makers just didn't seem to be able to get the phone's to work properly out of the box... slow, clunky, missing things, instability, outdated software, etc...
Nowadays, I just don't see that. Typically it is the ROMs that are unstable, miss features, etc... I see thread after thread of this great new ROM! But the camera is flunky, doesn't have data, or the IR blaster doesn't work, etc...
I had an LG G2 and the ROMs didn't impress me much. Went to a GS5 and was even less impressed. None of the ones that I tried were measurably faster than stock, none were 100% functional, or if they were, they were just tweaked stock ROMs and so what's the point? Risk warranty issues or bricking it, or not able to get OTA's, for what? Just to be able to brag to my nerd friends that I had a transparent status bar because a regular one bothers me SOOOO SOOOO much? LOL
The Note 4, is amazing. Debloat it with ADB or with the app manager, install your favorite launcher and icon pack to get the look and feel that you want, and know that it will work 100%, it's fast, stable and no warranty issues, no being left out when Lollipop drops and you want it but it breaks root again so you have to stick with the old software, etc...
I'm with you guys. I come from a Nexus4 and still have a Nexus7. I miss root for Titanium backup and that's about it. Sure I'm going to once it drops but the note is a very capable device able to stand on its own.
SquireSCA said:
Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
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4 or 5 apps? You must be oblivious to the hundreds of services and dozens of apps that are running on your phone. Don't forget about hundreds of intents that must all be doing something in your favor.
Big Red just wants your phone to run smooth and they want your battery life to be even more fabulous.
xdadevnube said:
4 or 5 apps? You must be oblivious to the hundreds of services and dozens of apps that are running on your phone. Don't forget about hundreds of intents that must all be doing something in your favor.
Big Red just wants your phone to run smooth and they want your battery life to be even more fabulous.
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You can disable any app on the phone with this.
xdadevnube said:
4 or 5 apps? You must be oblivious to the hundreds of services and dozens of apps that are running on your phone. Don't forget about hundreds of intents that must all be doing something in your favor.
Big Red just wants your phone to run smooth and they want your battery life to be even more fabulous.
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You can disable most of the things in the app manager. There are only a few that you can't, but then you can do that with ADB. Either way, you can debloat the phone, without root, and without risk of messing up your warranty or the ability to get the Lollipop OTA in a few weeks.
Also, a lot of reviews have shown that disabling everything under the sun to free up RAM, can actually slow your phone down, not speed it up.
Getting the true crap disabled, is the biggest thing and anyone can do that without root today.
It doesn't have to be the center of someone's Universe for them to enjoy changing it and making it their own, people do this will all types of things. Some would call it a "hobby" or an interest. Lots of people enjoy spending hours on Facebook or playing video games, others enjoy tinkering with their devices.
I went for a while with a retail Note 4 and ended up getting a DE. There are too many things that I missed, here are some of them:
Add WiFi HotSpot Toggle and Bypass Subscription Check
Add Flashlight Toggle
AdAway
Titanium Backup
Viper4Android
Root Explorer
Xposed Framework with the following modules:
-Youtube AdAway
-Play Store Link In App Info
-Wanam
-Swype Keyboard Tweaks
-Notify Clean (Clean notification area)
-No Map Tips (Disable Google Play Maps location accuracy tips)
-Google Play Music Listen Later (Change the default Google Play Music pane and tabs)
-Disable Clear Defaults Dialog
Chrome Pie (Add Pie control to Chrome)
SquireSCA said:
Meh... You can disable the bloat with the stock app manager... Yeah, not 100%, but I am not gonna obsess about 4 or 5 tiny apps or services running in the background that I don't see or notice anyway... I am not that much of a control freak... It's a phone, not the center of my universe that I feel compelled to bend 100% to my will.. hehe
Root would be nice I guess, but on these newer phones, the appeal is less and less. I can skin it however I want with dozens of launchers, and debloating a few extra apps with root won't make it any faster...
By the time root comes out, the devs will have moved on to newer phones so the ROM support will suck anyway...
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And whats even better you can block every single possible app with adb !
Until we get root its live able without it.
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SquireSCA said:
You can disable most of the things in the app manager. There are only a few that you can't, but then you can do that with ADB. Either way, you can debloat the phone, without root, and without risk of messing up your warranty or the ability to get the Lollipop OTA in a few weeks.
Also, a lot of reviews have shown that disabling everything under the sun to free up RAM, can actually slow your phone down, not speed it up.
Getting the true crap disabled, is the biggest thing and anyone can do that without root today.
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like I said, oblivious
The Note 4 is so sick the way it is! Do I wish we had root? Check. Do I wish we had unlocked bootloader? Check. Am I gonna give up on THE best phone out right now because I don't have those things? Hell NO! The phone is a beast! And I'll keep waiting, maybe for nothing....... but if it is for nothing, I'll live. Love the Note 4! And sticking with it no matter what.
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The Note 4 is so sick the way it is! Do I wish we had root? Check. Do I wish we had unlocked bootloader? Check. Am I gonna give up on THE best phone out right now because I don't have those things? Hell NO! The phone is a beast! And I'll keep waiting, maybe for nothing....... but if it is for nothing, I'll live. Love the Note 4! And sticking with it no matter what.
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Phone sucks without root. Seems like you don't need your xda account anymore
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I can't use a phone without pie controls. Comes in handywhen laying in the bed
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I miss being able to use better battery stats to follow wakelocks. I haven't had any real issues with wakelocks so far, but it really is just a matter of time.
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Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way... Swapping ROMs improve it though.
Welcome to the Note 4, I'm sure you'll love it!
Let us know how your experience goes.
I really love my Note 4. I am currently running Infamous ROM 2.8 and the performance is incredible. It blows the stock ROM out of the water.
Welcome to a real camera
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
keasey said:
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
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Go a week or more and then decide which apps you'd like to freeze or leave alone.
Should be enough time to get a feel for it and decide which apps you like.
I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Rayan said:
Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way...
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh I know that, but I meant rooting alone does not degrade the experience. As you rightfully said, the experience can be improved drastically while rooted even on stock firmware.
Cheers ?
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I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Take a look around the Q&A and General sections. Most questions you have, already have been asked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/google-s-voice-t2910499
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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The battery has no problem lasting all day
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I would definitely root and flash a ROM asap. Stock rom is ok but any of the TouchWiz ROM for T Mobile will flat out just feel snappier.
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Where did you hear that the battery life isn't good?
I typically get 2.5 days per full charge with between 4.5 and 6 hours of screen on time per charge depending on if I am reading, or doing media (games, youtube).
If anything I would wait for the Note 5, but that will be a while. I'd suggest getting the Note 4 because it's quite simply a very amazing beast of a phone and then using JUMP to upgrade in 6 months if you so desire.
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Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Roflmao lag ok
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Battery is great I got 2 days or more with 7 to 9 hours of screen time
Android_Monsters said:
Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
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Compared to the process of rooting a htc how difficult is it to root the note 4
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It's way easier to root the note 4:
You're in in 5.
Here are the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
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Had to do one at my parents house.
It took me 10 minutes because I was downloading a rom, at the same time, and my parents internet sucks.
fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Which Best Buy? From what I've seen at nearly all my local Best Buy they only have dummy phones and none of them carry t mobile phones
I am wondering if root for Verizon s7 looks like it'll be possible or looks like we are stuck on stock ? I saw some twrp drivers or stuff over in samsung s7 section so figured I'd ask.
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This article posted today doesn't leave much hope.
http://www.xda-developers.com/galax...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
Samsung has been one disappointment after another in the past few years. Might as well replace Touchwiz with IOS since they've paid so much to Apple to be like Apple.
joshw0000 said:
Samsung has been one disappointment after another in the past few years. Might as well replace Touchwiz with IOS since they've paid so much to Apple to be like Apple.
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Yep the iPhone 6s and S7 are exact the same :rolls eyes:
Samsung copied some apple stuff in the beginning, Google copied some Samsung stuff, apple copied sim Google stuff, LG copied dome Samsung stuff, Samsung copied LG stuff? everyone copied everyone. It happens when industries are new.
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Im actually not missing root as much as I thought I would. Admittedly, I like touchwiz, just need less bloat. And the debloater works pretty good so far with my S7. Need to trim a few more, if I can figure them all out. But other than that im not missing much, IMO.
pahick said:
Im actually not missing root as much as I thought I would. Admittedly, I like touchwiz, just need less bloat. And the debloater works pretty good so far with my S7. Need to trim a few more, if I can figure them all out. But other than that im not missing much, IMO.
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Is there a way to do nandroid backups? That's one of the primary reasons I use root on my S5. Also, I have so many Tasker profiles that use root and Secure Settings. Not interested in abandoning all of these.
pahick said:
Im actually not missing root as much as I thought I would. Admittedly, I like touchwiz, just need less bloat. And the debloater works pretty good so far with my S7. Need to trim a few more, if I can figure them all out. But other than that im not missing much, IMO.
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What debloater are are you referring to? I'd like to slim things down but have only "disabled " the bloat so far.
Working root!?
thrgk said:
I am wondering if root for Verizon s7 looks like it'll be possible or looks like we are stuck on stock ? I saw some twrp drivers or stuff over in samsung s7 section so figured I'd ask.
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Is that true? Has anybody tried that?
http://wccftech.com/how-to-root-galaxy-s7-on-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/
mefistofel666 said:
Is that true? Has anybody tried that?
http://wccftech.com/how-to-root-galaxy-s7-on-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/
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I don't believe that is something we can do with our Verizon version. I thought we had a different processor.
This is a huge disappointment for me. Can't really live without root and Xposed, but the GS7 was looking like my next phone. Hopefully something is figured out but im not too optimistic.
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Is that true? Has anybody tried that?
http://wccftech.com/how-to-root-galaxy-s7-on-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/
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Not recommended for locked bootloaders, of which all US carrier versions are
The root situation right now is pretty much in Samsung/Verizon's hands. Our Verizon variants have the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820, the only root or twrp solutions right now are for exynos. Not only that but our bootloader is locked (currently no official way to unlock like HTC dev equivalent or something) and even worse (for prospects of rooting that is), Samsung utilizes Qualcomms secure boot and dm-verity. So any unsigned images won't be accepted and even if they are, dm-verity would make it so that any changes on the /system partition would boot loop your device. Seems like the only way we'll get root is if Verizon presses on Samsung (like T-Mobile is rumored to be doing) to get some sort of HTC dev type unlock program going.
I had Note 4 on Verizon for a year since release and it never got root. Im pretty sure it's still unrootable device.
I'm guessing this will be the case here.
Maybe there are devs working on this to exploit our phone: http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/22/google-warns-of-android-root-exploit/
Unless this is what we just got the security patch for.
yonith2 said:
Maybe there are devs working on this to exploit our phone: http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/22/google-warns-of-android-root-exploit/
Unless this is what we just got the security patch for.
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As I'm aware that doesn't apply to marshmallow
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As I'm aware that doesn't apply to marshmallow
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Correct, we have kernel 3.18.x so it's already patched for us.
tolymatev said:
I had Note 4 on Verizon for a year since release and it never got root. Im pretty sure it's still unrootable device.
I'm guessing this will be the case here.
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I still have my note 4 to this day and there's still no perm root lol. the s7 isn't getting it. don't get your hopes up. plus if you wanna keep using samsung pay, you'll never be able to root. I've stopped caring honestly. no ads with samsung browser and an ad blocker is sweet. if i need mobile Hotspot on my unlimited plan, I'll pop my sim into my old LG g2.
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jayochs said:
I still have my note 4 to this day and there's still no perm root lol. the s7 isn't getting it. don't get your hopes up. plus if you wanna keep using samsung pay, you'll never be able to root. I've stopped caring honestly. no ads with samsung browser and an ad blocker is sweet. if i need mobile Hotspot on my unlimited plan, I'll pop my sim into my old LG g2.
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Foxfi works great with unlimited on S7E.
I'm sure you can always root Verizon version of the GS7 but no doubt you won't be able to flash any rooms on the device (just like in the past). But touchwiz has been slimmed down and a hell of alot less bloatware. Even with my past Verizon phonestore I never really found the need for a new ROM (although it would have sped up the phones quite a bit) but I found that just having root access is perfect, especially now a day's with the higher specs and reliability of Samsung devices. I wonder if SuperSU or KingRoot will work, they are the best one step rooting process without a pc.
crackbaby0219 said:
I'm sure you can always root Verizon version of the GS7 but no doubt you won't be able to flash any rooms on the device (just like in the past).......<snip>....... I wonder if SuperSU or KingRoot will work, they are the best one step rooting process without a pc.
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SuperSU isn't a rooting meathod that works without a custom recovery, so no it won't work.
KingRoot users specific vulnerabilities that have been patched, so no it won't work either.
Error will be impossible without finding a way to get rid of dm-verify, which the only way to do that right now is a repacked kernel, which is not flashable because secure boot prevents unsigned flashing.
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Just thought I'd let those of you who can't root their note and didn't know that Samsung blocked all the ability to theme/change fonts on your phone from anywhere but their official theme store. So, if you have substratum and have purchased andromeda, themegalaxy, swift installer.....etc, you are SOL. In order for any of those to work, you'd have to have root. This is going to be my last Sammy phone ever. First they lock down their bootloaders (I know carriers are involved and want you to upgrade every year), then now are locking any third party themes. And to top it off, they are horrible at pushing updates/new software to their customers. If you buy a locked down phone, you'd get a couple of updates (I mean android versions not security updates) then you're stuck with an older version of android until you buy a new phone.
Just thought I'd throw this out there so you decide whether or not to update to pie. IF there is a way to block automatic updates.
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Swift installer still works
Isn't theme issues (whatever level of issues) on Pie have to do with Google killing it and not the phone OEM? Google killed call recording on Pie. They seems to be wanting to kill more and more features we've been depending on that have nothing to do with Samsung.
i have nova launcher on pie with a note 9 with no problems
Gil Smash said:
Swift installer still works
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That's not what the developer of the app said on the latest update. They announced that on their telegram chat. Wings fonts and theme Galaxy did, too along with some other themers. But I sure hope that you're right, though.
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roaduardo said:
Isn't theme issues (whatever level of issues) on Pie have to do with Google killing it and not the phone OEM? Google killed call recording on Pie. They seems to be wanting to kill more and more features we've been depending on that have nothing to do with Samsung.
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The developers mentioned that "Samsung blocked overlays (or something like that) on pie.
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wuelfman said:
i have nova launcher on pie with a note 9 with no problems
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Nova isn't a theme, it's a launcher and has nothing to do with this thread's subject. Lol
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K-alz said:
The developers mentioned that "Samsung blocked overlays (or something like that) on pie.
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The main issue from what I was told about from a theme developer, also read it a bunch of times when Pixel got the update, overlays are not going to as they used to work before. With every upstate, Google is doing work to kill overlays... Put is just the latest
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The main issue from what I was told about from a theme developer, also read it a bunch of times when Pixel got the update, overlays are not going to as they used to work before. With every upstate, Google is doing work to kill overlays... Put is just the latest
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I hope that the devs will find a work around. I don't know what's in it for Google to kill overlays. Their pixel doesn't even support themes. Just leave people alone.
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I hope that the devs will find a work around. I don't know what's in it for Google to kill overlays. Their pixel doesn't even support themes. Just leave people alone.
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I think is has to do with Google slowly working towards making a dark theme systemwide, should be available on next version of Android. You can also expect even more difficulties using overlays on next Android.
Google is trying to tighten things up on Android. Do I like? No! But we can't say they are wrong to do it either.
I mean, look at how many Android devices are activated daily. Security lately is a much bigger concern for all companies and users. Blocking modifications and overlays is a way of making your phone more secure.
Thanks for sharing but I don't use third party themes anymore since most of them seems to drain the battery way too much
Why not just downgrade to Oreo 8.1 ? PIE-9 ONE UI Sucks at the moment.. Maybe 6 months or a years’ time it might get there and then ill upgrade!! Until then I’m sticking to 8.1 as it rocks!
im on pie and i change font by afont app in store and its work fine
K-alz said:
Just thought I'd let those of you who can't root their note and didn't know that Samsung blocked all the ability to theme/change fonts on your phone from anywhere but their official theme store. So, if you have substratum and have purchased andromeda, themegalaxy, swift installer.....etc, you are SOL. In order for any of those to work, you'd have to have root. This is going to be my last Sammy phone ever. First they lock down their bootloaders (I know carriers are involved and want you to upgrade every year), then now are locking any third party themes. And to top it off, they are horrible at pushing updates/new software to their customers. If you buy a locked down phone, you'd get a couple of updates (I mean android versions not security updates) then you're stuck with an older version of android until you buy a new phone.
Just thought I'd throw this out there so you decide whether or not to update to pie. IF there is a way to block automatic updates.
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I get the frustration, I think you may have some misplaced blame however. Right now I'm on Oreo Note 9, (SM-N960U1) root not possible, and wish I could stay on it, screw Pie and google. <-They are the ones you should be pointing at!
Hell, besides all the bugs on pie, they are the ones blocking us. Then there is that stupid apple-esque gestures, not to mention there terrible multitasking!! google has head-up you know what right now. (thank god Nova still works on pie)
Wait until you read about what Q is going to bring. Why in the hell is google going to help carriers by allowing SIM lock? nah, security or not, I've been saying for over two years now, google is not our friend. Sure I get it, revolutionary, and we all use them every day, but they are no longer a "good" company, but just after making money.
As far as Samsung locking down the bootloader, do you not think that the only way they can get our U.S. pile-o-crap carries to carry their phone, they have to? Hey I'm not sure about that, but I'd give it better the 70/30 that's why. Ya, you mentioned the same, and I agree, it's because of carriers.
rusty.gh said:
I get the frustration, I think you may have some misplaced blame however. Right now I'm on Oreo Note 9, (SM-N960U1) root not possible, and wish I could stay on it, screw Pie and google. <-They are the ones you should be pointing at!
Hell, besides all the bugs on pie, they are the ones blocking us. Then there is that stupid apple-esque gestures, not to mention there terrible multitasking!! google has head-up you know what right now. (thank god Nova still works on pie)
Wait until you read about what Q is going to bring. Why in the hell is google going to help carriers by allowing SIM lock? nah, security or not, I've been saying for over two years now, google is not our friend. Sure I get it, revolutionary, and we all use them every day, but they are no longer a "good" company, but just after making money.
As far as Samsung locking down the bootloader, do you not think that the only way they can get our U.S. pile-o-crap carries to carry their phone, they have to? Hey I'm not sure about that, but I'd give it better the 70/30 that's why. Ya, you mentioned the same, and I agree, it's because of carriers.
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Well, good for Samsung , Google and the carriers. This is going to be my last Samsung phone and through a carrier. It's either gonna be cheap mid-range phones or older iphone (like apple is any better lol)
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I have got a n9 thats unrooted for my daily.. just picked up a lgv30 for my audio and rooting fixes.
I might as well just settle in for the long haul until international phones are rootable and working on Verizon.
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So, I just spoke to the devs of swift installer and they confirmed that it will work on one UI. So, I hope that means substratum will work, too, maybe?
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drbveb88 said:
I have got a n9 thats unrooted for my daily.. just picked up a lgv30 for my audio and rooting fixes.
I might as well just settle in for the long haul until international phones are rootable and working on Verizon.
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Phones are everywhere now and the competition is very hot in the market. Samsung and the carriers can shove their non rootable phones up there @#$#. Imagine having a non rootable Samsung phone and you wanted to keep it for a while, you're literally stuck on one firmware for as long as you have that phone knowing how horrible Samsung updates are.
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K-alz said:
So, I just spoke to the devs of swift installer and they confirmed that it will work on one UI. So, I hope that means substratum will work, too, maybe?
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I'm running it on pie. It works for apps no problem. But system UI, settings, and some galaxy apps are not working right now.
therebel88 said:
I'm running it on pie. It works for apps no problem. But system UI, settings, and some galaxy apps are not working right now.
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I think it's because of the dark mode on Pie. I hope they'll have a work around so we can theme the system with other colors beside black or white.
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