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My Moto X impression so far

This isn't so much for the people who have the phone, but I know a lot of people looking to buy the phone will read the reviews and visit general forum, so here it is:
What I love about it:
Touchless Control -- definitely put those iPhone 5s users in their place when they show off their fingerprint unlock. "Hey Google Now" gets recognized instantly, anywhere, and at almost any volume. I was explain it to someone about this feature in a noisy hallway with him holding my phone, and I was not even loud, and my phone woke up and started listening. Now I whisper it just to see it can hear me, and get super giddy and freaked out at the same time when it does...
Active Notification -- yeah yeah, I know you can download an app for it, but moto X's implementation is by far the best. It knows what you are doing. In the pocket? No problem. Out of the pocket, wake up right away. I don't even bother using the power button anymore. I just nudge the phone a bit when it's sitting on my desk, and the screen comes on. It's a beautiful thing, especially after switching from HTC One, and the One Mini, when the power button was so damn awkward to reach. Or you know, you can just wake it up by talking to it... Just say: open Gmail! and BOOM. It's there.
Assist -- again, Motorola got it right. This is how to make a rom. Assist has completely made my tasker useless... I was using tasker to silence my phone during appointments, at night, and play music and reply messages when I'm driving, now Moto X does all this, with minimal setup. I just let it do its thing, and it has gotten it right almost all the time. It also read your text messages when you are driving, which is pretty awesome.
What I dislike:
My biggest gripe... What is up with the vibration? It feels so mechanical and clunky, as if there is a robot squirrel in the phone grinding two titanium nuts together in its mouth to make the vibration. The long duration vibration is almost unbearable. C'mon Motorola, why would you skimp on something so important and basic?
The screen -- it's a decent screen, but after using the One, I would have to say it is nowhere near top notch. If a beautiful screen is a MUST for you, skip this phone. It's usable, but hardly from beautiful. When it's dim, I could almost see a hue of purple on everything. Pentile displays, I'm telling yah. The screen looks like my old GNex. I eventually liked my GNex because of the custom kernal could make the screen almost really really good, but on the Moto X, which leads to my last gripe...
The bootloader -- all you TMo and Rogers people are damn lucky. I really don't mind the bootloader so much, but I just want to root my phone. I know another root method will eventually come along, but man, Verizon and AT&T are making it difficult. Why do I want to root my phone? Well I happen to enjoy the Xposed framework and have been using it on almost all my other phones. It has completely replaced Rom flashing for me. I want my screen rotation in the quick setting menu damn it, is that too much to ask?
Well that's it. If you don't like to mess around your phone and can live with a robot squirrel and mediocre screen, this phone is for you...
For the owners of Moto X.. How are you feeling about the vibration and the screen? Any cool app or anything that doesn't require root to make the moto X experience better?

personally I like the vibration because it's easy for me to feel it on vibrate while I'm at work. And the screen looks just the same as the S4 I had to me, but some notice screens more than me. I agree with active notifications and all, and I love the twist motion to launch the camera. Only thing I don't like is how locked down it is. (Verizon). And the camera isn't great, so far I don't find the update to have helped too much

I feel like I either have absolutely no high expectations for vibration, or I have the only Moto X that vibrates normally. I haven't noticed any rattling on mine, and it's a really strong vibration. I like it.

holyevilcow said:
This isn't so much for the people who have the phone, but I know a lot of people looking to buy the phone will read the reviews and visit general forum, so here it is:
What I love about it:
Touchless Control -- definitely put those iPhone 5s users in their place when they show off their fingerprint unlock. "Hey Google Now" gets recognized instantly, anywhere, and at almost any volume. I was explain it to someone about this feature in a noisy hallway with him holding my phone, and I was not even loud, and my phone woke up and started listening. Now I whisper it just to see it can hear me, and get super giddy and freaked out at the same time when it does...
Active Notification -- yeah yeah, I know you can download an app for it, but moto X's implementation is by far the best. It knows what you are doing. In the pocket? No problem. Out of the pocket, wake up right away. I don't even bother using the power button anymore. I just nudge the phone a bit when it's sitting on my desk, and the screen comes on. It's a beautiful thing, especially after switching from HTC One, and the One Mini, when the power button was so damn awkward to reach. Or you know, you can just wake it up by talking to it... Just say: open Gmail! and BOOM. It's there.
Assist -- again, Motorola got it right. This is how to make a rom. Assist has completely made my tasker useless... I was using tasker to silence my phone during appointments, at night, and play music and reply messages when I'm driving, now Moto X does all this, with minimal setup. I just let it do its thing, and it has gotten it right almost all the time. It also read your text messages when you are driving, which is pretty awesome.
What I dislike:
My biggest gripe... What is up with the vibration? It feels so mechanical and clunky, as if there is a robot squirrel in the phone grinding two titanium nuts together in its mouth to make the vibration. The long duration vibration is almost unbearable. C'mon Motorola, why would you skimp on something so important and basic?
The screen -- it's a decent screen, but after using the One, I would have to say it is nowhere near top notch. If a beautiful screen is a MUST for you, skip this phone. It's usable, but hardly from beautiful. When it's dim, I could almost see a hue of purple on everything. Pentile displays, I'm telling yah. The screen looks like my old GNex. I eventually liked my GNex because of the custom kernal could make the screen almost really really good, but on the Moto X, which leads to my last gripe...
The bootloader -- all you TMo and Rogers people are damn lucky. I really don't mind the bootloader so much, but I just want to root my phone. I know another root method will eventually come along, but man, Verizon and AT&T are making it difficult. Why do I want to root my phone? Well I happen to enjoy the Xposed framework and have been using it on almost all my other phones. It has completely replaced Rom flashing for me. I want my screen rotation in the quick setting menu damn it, is that too much to ask?
Well that's it. If you don't like to mess around your phone and can live with a robot squirrel and mediocre screen, this phone is for you...
For the owners of Moto X.. How are you feeling about the vibration and the screen? Any cool app or anything that doesn't require root to make the moto X experience better?
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Just so we remain accurate, the screen on the Moto X is not PenTile, but uses the same array as the Galaxy Note 2 from Samsung. Infact, Samsung is the one that makes the screen on the Moto X.
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/5

samarth1 said:
Just so we remain accurate, the screen on the Moto X is not PenTile, but uses the same array as the Galaxy Note 2 from Samsung. Infact, Samsung is the one that makes the screen on the Moto X.
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/5
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nice one .

freak4dell said:
I feel like I either have absolutely no high expectations for vibration, or I have the only Moto X that vibrates normally. I haven't noticed any rattling on mine, and it's a really strong vibration. I like it.
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I've had three different xs and they all vibrate slightly different
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eallan said:
I've had three different xs and they all vibrate slightly different
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yeah i'm on my third, too. the first two had minor issues besides the vibration. the vibration was different on all 3, and seemed to get worse as i went along. looking back, i should have not nitpicked and just kept the first because it was nice and tight--none of this loud and rattley/loose nonsense that i have on the latest one, but hindsight is 20/20 i guess. 2 gsm dev editions and then an at&t that i have now, in case anyone's wondering. i saved over $300 getting a used at&t on this latest one.. at least that's how i'm justifying the imperfections this go-around.

So surprised you dont like the screen in comparison with the HTC One. I have both (got a Moto X after the One - which I was besotted with), the Moto X has darker blacks and deeper colours, I easily prefer it over the One. The one looks washed out in comparison - which I was really surprised about as I love the One screen.

Irky things
I have the VZW DEV edition. For the most part everything works great. I have issues where Music from Google Play over my blue tooth head set gets choppy when I'm active (walking, or moving about). My dialer quit suggest contact names when I'm dialing a number and telling me who's calling on incoming calls from contacts. It doesn't recognize my Motorola docks and if I have daydreamer mode set to run when connected to a charger or dock, it doesn't. I'm pretty disappointed with my $650 phone since my Bionic worked great in all these areas.

ranlil said:
I have the VZW DEV edition. For the most part everything works great. I have issues where Music from Google Play over my blue tooth head set gets choppy when I'm active (walking, or moving about). My dialer quit suggest contact names when I'm dialing a number and telling me who's calling on incoming calls from contacts. It doesn't recognize my Motorola docks and if I have daydreamer mode set to run when connected to a charger or dock, it doesn't. I'm pretty disappointed with my $650 phone since my Bionic worked great in all these areas.
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it doesn't sound like it, but if you think these are manufacturing issues with your particular phone, i've found that motorola customer service has no problem issuing a RMA for you.. i think you could do this anyway as long as it's within the window. their customer service people are a joke with trying to evaluate and fix the issue but they did refund my two GSM dev editions (one with bootloader unlocked). you could always try another one, and even return that and get back on the bionic until something else pops up. why they won't do straight up exchanges i have no idea. they lost my money when i bought a used AT&T the third time around.
however, for all its issues, this is probably my favorite phone ever.

To me the MotoX would be my only option if I went Android.
Main reasons:
- I really appreciate one-handed operation : The MotoX is just a little bit bigger than an iPhone 5 while having a much bigger screen. That makes it easy to reach both the top and bottom of the screen without having to shift my hand around every time to do so.
- The MotoX brought about a new, long-term, game changing feature (Always On Assistant) : It's not easy to bring about a Star Trek like feature which is actually really useful without killing the battery life. Motorola was the only phone to be able to accomplish this. Before the MotoX everyone thought that an always listening voice assistant would kill the battery life. This feature (along with TouchID on the 5s) are not given enough credit for their long term impact on the smartphone realm.
- Motorola was finally the first Android manufacturer to stop being whores to the spec war games : So many times I see android manufacturers cram in whatever specs they can to cater to the stat geeks, without any real thought as to what is actually needed. Motorola was finally the first to stop and ask "Hey, is a 1080p screen really needed over a 720p screen when the non-ocd consumer can't tell the difference anyways? All it really does is kill battery life!"
- I love the fact that the MotoX is assembled in the U.S. : The fact that Motorola took the profit hit to bring assembling jobs to America is a huge plus in my opinion. They could have simply lined their pockets further by having it assembled in China or wherever but they didn't. By doing this they also ensured that American customers would get a quick delivery when ordering online. A company that is willing to forgo extra profits in order to help the U.S. economy gets an A+ in my book.
- Near stock version of android : The skins that LG, HTC, and Samsung throw on their phones are cluttered and disgusting IMO. Not only that but having a manufacturers skin cluttered all over your handset makes it that much harder for them to put it on newer versions of android that come in the future. With the MotoX having a near stock version of android you know that the phone you are getting is clean but will also get future updates much quicker than other skinned handsets would.
- Active notifications look awesome : Instead of a random blinking LED (which is not always present on other handsets anyways) you get active notifications which only come up when the phone senses you are looking at it. Why doesn't everyone have this?
Other, more minor reasons:
- I like that Motorola gives the consumer choices : Even though I would get an all black version (with the back being woven), I still appreciate that Motorola would be the first android manufacturer to give the customer a real choice on colors.
- I really like Moto Skip : Being able to skip past my lock screen is a really convenient time saving feature when you have a long, secure password which I also really appreciate on the 5s with touch ID.

Sounds like a decent chunk of you guys had an HTC one before the x.... Why did you make the jump? Im contemplating that very move (currently have a one)

Moto X only looks like pure android. I'm willing to bet that they have made tons of changes under the hood. This is why this phone may never get advice development. Good thing it's heavily optimized. Makes me wonder if it will be a 2 year phone.
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eallan said:
I've had three different xs and they all vibrate slightly different
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indeed. whatever happened to 'building the x in the usa means fixing production issues much quicker.'

I only miss root for two things:
1) center clock
2) greenify
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DertyDOH said:
personally I like the vibration because it's easy for me to feel it on vibrate while I'm at work. And the screen looks just the same as the S4 I had to me, but some notice screens more than me. I agree with active notifications and all, and I love the twist motion to launch the camera. Only thing I don't like is how locked down it is. (Verizon). And the camera isn't great, so far I don't find the update to have helped too much
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Do you actually use the twist-motion for the camera often? Or do you find it too clunky, like what people were saying in comments when the feature was announced?

meant2live218 said:
Do you actually use the twist-motion for the camera often? Or do you find it too clunky, like what people were saying in comments when the feature was announced?
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I actually use it every time I launch the camera. Also I take a lot of pics while driving (bad habit yes), but I go past a classic car lot frequently and take pics sometimes of a new 60's muscle car they might have. I would hate going back to anything else

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Do you actually use the twist-motion for the camera often? Or do you find it too clunky, like what people were saying in comments when the feature was announced?
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I only use it to show it off. Every time I have had to snap a pic I forget it's there.....
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droe411 said:
I only use it to show it off. Every time I have had to snap a pic I forget it's there.....
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I'm the complete opposite. I even use the twist gesture as a quick way to get into my camera gallery.

I've had a problem that's made me lose some great pics of my daughter. Sometimes when I activate using the twist motion, snap a pic, then go to look at it later, it's not in gallery. I've replicated it a few times. Stock and newest update. Not sure what the deal is there.
All in all: amazing phone. Love it.
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Can the waving and phone flick activation, etc be turned off?

I want to turn most sensors off. Can the display waving and flashlight wrist flick activation, etc be turned off? That seems like battery wasting stuff and can activate when not intended as well. Regardless, I want to turn all of those functions off and disabled almost everything on my Note 4 too. I will turn my phone, camera and flashlight on the old fashioned way

rushless said:
I want to turn most sensors off. Can the display waving and flashlight wrist flick activation, etc be turned off? That seems like battery wasting stuff and can activate when not intended as well. Regardless, I want to turn all of those functions off and disabled almost everything on my Note 4 too. I will turn my phone, camera and flashlight on the old fashioned way
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Yes, should be as easy as opening the management app and toggling it off

They can be turned off on the existing moto products.

You'd be missing out on the whole point of the Moto X if you turned everything that makes it unique off
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rocketsaucev2 said:
You'd be missing out on the whole point of the Moto X if you turned everything that makes it unique off
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+1
Buy something else if you are not liking the 'smart' features of the 'smartest' smartphone series.

rocketsaucev2 said:
You'd be missing out on the whole point of the Moto X if you turned everything that makes it unique off
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thats the dumbest comment i have ever heard. the moto x is more then a couple unique features. just because i never use the heart rate monitor on my notes doesnt mean i should buy a different device. grow up dude the moto x is a lot more then a waving feature lmao

oneandroidnut said:
thats the dumbest comment i have ever heard. the moto x is more then a couple unique features. just because i never use the heart rate monitor on my notes doesnt mean i should buy a different device. grow up dude the moto x is a lot more then a waving feature lmao
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Grow up? Lol wtf are you talking about? So what is it then without its unique features? Any android can open the camera from the app drawer. The Moto X can open it with a wrist flick. Any android can flash a colored light to tell you you have a notification but motos have active display. Turn off the unique features and you have a normal phone with stock software. No one said anything about buying a different device either, the op was asking about disabling sensors
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Grow up? Lol wtf are you talking about? So what is it then without its unique features? Any android can open the camera from the app drawer. The Moto X can open it with a wrist flick. Any android can flash a colored light to tell you you have a notification but motos have active display. Turn off the unique features and you have a normal phone with stock software. No one said anything about buying a different device either, the op was asking about disabling sensors
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My note 5 can open the camera with a double tap of the home button woah big deal the moto x is unique more then its active display etc etc i can tell you I am buying it for a $399 custom smartphone. I could less about the "unique" features i just want a big phone with sdcard and decent battery and with adding my own backs/colors etc etc just sweetens the deal. Sorry but the wrist flick camera opening shouldnt be why you buy this phone imo

oneandroidnut said:
Sorry but the wrist flick camera opening shouldnt be why you buy this phone imo
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There are many more smarter features in Moto X than the wrist flick which dumb Samsungs can't offer. You would know how useful they are only when you would start living with a MotoX. Best of luck. And turning any Moto specialty feature off not gonna give you any significant gain in battery life so no sense in turning off any feature for the sake of battery atleast.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
There are many more smarter features in Moto X than the wrist flick which dumb Samsungs can't offer. You would know how useful they are only when you would start living with a MotoX. Best of luck. And turning any Moto specialty feature off not gonna give you any significant gain in battery life so no sense in turning off any feature for the sake of battery atleast.
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Well we'll find out when I buy which is when? Moto is terrible for release date not a good start
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I prefer the stuff off. Especially with a fixed 3000mah battery. Personal choice The build, 64gb storage, sd, no bloat, no Samsung UI, front stereo speakers and the price- will suffice
Hoping also the more powerful CPU helps with emulators. The GPU is a tad weaker, but less power consumption than the 805 and games play smooth as butter on the G4. The UI on the G4 though, not so much.

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I prefer the stuff off. Especially with a fixed 3000mah battery. Personal choice The build, 64gb storage, sd, no bloat, no Samsung UI, front stereo speakers and the price- will suffice
Hoping also the more powerful CPU helps with emulators. The GPU is a tad weaker, but less power consumption than the 805 and games play smooth as butter on the G4. The UI on the G4 though, not so much.
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yes.

rushless said:
I prefer the stuff off. Especially with a fixed 3000mah battery. Personal choice The build, 64gb storage, sd, no bloat, no Samsung UI, front stereo speakers and the price- will suffice
Hoping also the more powerful CPU helps with emulators. The GPU is a tad weaker, but less power consumption than the 805 and games play smooth as butter on the G4. The UI on the G4 though, not so much.
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Honestly, the amount of battery that will save is next to nothing. But as far as the original question of the thread, yes you'll be able to disable most if not all of them
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Of course anything is tune-able! You might need to root it but yes, you can change it. Also it will not save a lot of battery.

I've never owned a Moto device so I kust say I'm really looking forward to using all these features. They are not gimmicky like most of the crap on my Samsung devices.
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Active display?

Hey guys just want to ask a little question about the 6P. One of my favorite features on my Moto x at the time was the active display, dont understand why other company's like samsung wont do this since they also use a AMOLED screen. I havent heard anyone talk about this so im wondering if the 6P has some sort of active display like the N6 had or that just a moto feature? Im trying to break away from my S6 for reasons (biggest being it cant multi-task) and the LG v10 and Nexus 6P are both on my radar.
*edit* Thought I posted this in Q&A section, if a mod can please move.

6P's active display is hit or miss according to reviewers. May be they'll fix it in next update. Afterall we should have something to look up to and cheer when it gets fixed in an update, right?

Pretty sure the nexus 6p has active display, or some variant... I've seen it in a few videos. It doesn't work like the moto x style as it has no IR on the front (booo) but pretty sure if you move the phone it can show you notifications/time/date etc.
Also, shouldn't this be in a QA section?

What's active display¿,I seen one review saying you should put display in SRGB !ode for beat quality
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combat goofwing said:
What's active display¿,I seen one review saying you should put display in SRGB !ode for beat quality
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Active display is a feature Motorola came out with when they launched the 2012 moto x. Since the phone had a AMOLED screen it allowed them to use the screen as a notification display. I would love picking my phone out my pocket and it showing the time/date without me having to hit the power button. The more I think of it the more I realize that the moto x was the best phone I used.

WolfsFang said:
Hey guys just want to ask a little question about the 6P. One of my favorite features on my Moto x at the time was the active display, dont understand why other company's like samsung wont do this since they also use a AMOLED screen. I havent heard anyone talk about this so im wondering if the 6P has some sort of active display like the N6 had or that just a moto feature? Im trying to break away from my S6 for reasons (biggest being it cant multi-task) and the LG v10 and Nexus 6P are both on my radar.
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samsung note 3 used to have a feature where you went to pick it up, it used to show time/notifications...forgot what sammy called it

For the Nexus 6P it's called "ambient display" and it will work when you pick up the phone. It'll show time, date and notifications plus the notification LED will work at the same time. Pretty nice feature
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.vermilion said:
For the Nexus 6P it's called "ambient display" and it will work when you pick up the phone. It'll show time, date and notifications plus the notification LED will work at the same time. Pretty nice feature
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Awesome thanks for the info, now I just need to wait for it to come out near me.

Hi, so I got my Nexus 6P today.
While I love the phone, I must say that (at least in my case) ambient display is hopeless. I've now disabled it.
It never seems to come on when I want it too without a few seconds delay, by which point I might as well be using the phone, and when you don't want it to come on it pops up every 15 seconds even when say completely still on my desk. No idea what's going on, but hey.
On the plus slide, Light Flow works a dream with the LED and that's good enough for me for the time being. Hopefully Old Good will fix ambient display shortly (assuming I just don't have a dodgy device).
Edit: Just occurred to me that it might be lightflow messing up Ambient display even though the LED works fine itself. I'll uninstall & report back.

Quick update. Seems to be the LED that causes the issue, turn if off in settings and ambient display works fine again. Hopefully something a quick software fix will sort out.

Higadeb said:
Quick update. Seems to be the LED that causes the issue, turn if off in settings and ambient display works fine again. Hopefully something a quick software fix will sort out.
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Thats kinda strange, on the 2012 moto x there was a led light but was disabled for some reason, not even lightflow could bring it on.

What is the proper way to make active display even turn on? Can't figure it out, it's so random. Tried with LED on and off.

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What is the proper way to make active display even turn on? Can't figure it out, it's so random. Tried with LED on and off.
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This Ambient Display feature is so frustrating! It should be great, but it's just so unpredictable. How is it supposed to work...?

Same problem here. Hope it will be fixed though

Holding the phone parallel to the ground then lifting the top up until the phone is vertical in one quick motion activates the display pretty reliably for me.

mine never thriggers the display when i take it out of pocket. when on my desk is sort of meh :/

Bringing Moto X features over to the S5

I'm coming to the S5 from the original Moto X, and there are a lot of features I really don't want to leave behind.
From what I can tell, the S5 doesn't have any kind of "Always listening mode" that lets you launch Google Now when the screen is off through a voice command. I'm still looking to see how to get that to function correctly witout draining all the battery. But what I would really like to have again is wave to wake and active/moto display.
Is there a way if I'm rooted to change a config file or something for the "Air wake up" feature? Right now it's a few seconds of holding your hand in front of the proximity sensor on the front to turn on the screen. But is there an app out there or a way to go into /sys to tailor that to how I want it to work? Or a ROM that does it?
Same thing for an Active/Moto display. The S5 has an AMOLED, so there's no reason why it should turn on the entire screen.

MortimerR said:
I'm coming to the S5 from the original Moto X, and there are a lot of features I really don't want to leave behind.
From what I can tell, the S5 doesn't have any kind of "Always listening mode" that lets you launch Google Now when the screen is off through a voice command. I'm still looking to see how to get that to function correctly witout draining all the battery. But what I would really like to have again is wave to wake and active/moto display.
Is there a way if I'm rooted to change a config file or something for the "Air wake up" feature? Right now it's a few seconds of holding your hand in front of the proximity sensor on the front to turn on the screen. But is there an app out there or a way to go into /sys to tailor that to how I want it to work? Or a ROM that does it?
Same thing for an Active/Moto display. The S5 has an AMOLED, so there's no reason why it should turn on the entire screen.
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yes i have also used Moto G and it has moto Assist feature which i really want in S5 can u port this feature

MortimerR said:
I'm coming to the S5 from the original Moto X, and there are a lot of features I really don't want to leave behind.
From what I can tell, the S5 doesn't have any kind of "Always listening mode" that lets you launch Google Now when the screen is off through a voice command. I'm still looking to see how to get that to function correctly witout draining all the battery. But what I would really like to have again is wave to wake and active/moto display.
Is there a way if I'm rooted to change a config file or something for the "Air wake up" feature? Right now it's a few seconds of holding your hand in front of the proximity sensor on the front to turn on the screen. But is there an app out there or a way to go into /sys to tailor that to how I want it to work? Or a ROM that does it?
Same thing for an Active/Moto display. The S5 has an AMOLED, so there's no reason why it should turn on the entire screen.
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Active Display requires more than just a screen, a controller is needed. S5 lacks it.

MortimerR said:
I'm coming to the S5 from the original Moto X, and there are a lot of features I really don't want to leave behind.
From what I can tell, the S5 doesn't have any kind of "Always listening mode" that lets you launch Google Now when the screen is off through a voice command. I'm still looking to see how to get that to function correctly witout draining all the battery. But what I would really like to have again is wave to wake and active/moto display.
Is there a way if I'm rooted to change a config file or something for the "Air wake up" feature? Right now it's a few seconds of holding your hand in front of the proximity sensor on the front to turn on the screen. But is there an app out there or a way to go into /sys to tailor that to how I want it to work? Or a ROM that does it?
Same thing for an Active/Moto display. The S5 has an AMOLED, so there's no reason why it should turn on the entire screen.
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Looking to move from 2013 X to s5. How have you been liking the move? Any likes and dislikes or feedback you can share? Thanks
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mario24601 said:
Looking to move from 2013 X to s5. How have you been liking the move? Any likes and dislikes or feedback you can share? Thanks
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Touch Wiz is pretty bad honestly and I wouldn't want to use it again. I ended up going with a CM build (AICP) (Rooting and unlocking isn't that hard on it) which helps alot. Stock Marshmallow has a lot of the moto features baked in, and CM adds even more. In total though, I still miss the Moto X, but they never really updated the design past the 2014 version.
After getting past the initial software issues, the S5 is great. If you're getting it new, the processor still holds up, camera isn't bad (although doesn't show as much detail in low light as current gen devices), and having an SD slot and extra battery is awesome.

MortimerR said:
Touch Wiz is pretty bad honestly and I wouldn't want to use it again. I ended up going with a CM build (AICP) (Rooting and unlocking isn't that hard on it) which helps alot. Stock Marshmallow has a lot of the moto features baked in, and CM adds even more. In total though, I still miss the Moto X, but they never really updated the design past the 2014 version.
After getting past the initial software issues, the S5 is great. If you're getting it new, the processor still holds up, camera isn't bad (although doesn't show as much detail in low light as current gen devices), and having an SD slot and extra battery is awesome.
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Thanks, appreciate the feedback! I have CM on my X now and would also want on s5. I think the version to get is the g900f. Know if I should update stock to the latest software before the CM attempt or does it not matter?
Better battery and better camera will be appreciated. I like active display on X but led notification should be just as useful. I think the overall size is what I'll miss most. The 13 x is just so easy to use one handed.
Were you happy with performance compared to X once you moved to CM?
I was waiting to get a pixel but just can't bring self to spending over $800 on a phone.
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mario24601 said:
Thanks, appreciate the feedback! I have CM on my X now and would also want on s5. I think the version to get is the g900f. Know if I should update stock to the latest software before the CM attempt or does it not matter?
Better battery and better camera will be appreciated. I like active display on X but led notification should be just as useful. I think the overall size is what I'll miss most. The 13 x is just so easy to use one handed.
Were you happy with performance compared to X once you moved to CM?
I was waiting to get a pixel but just can't bring self to spending over $800 on a phone.
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The root and bootloader unlock guides here are pretty solid. From what I remember, you have to be on a PB1 bootloader to unlock correctly, which is flashed via Odin. But I don't recall all of the details.
CM 13 has active display that works with the S5's AMOLED, but it's not quite as smooth/intuitive as the X, as the X had a dedicated chipset just for its Moto Display. That said, it does work in the same way, and I've found that it's a better notification system than the LED light. Haven't checked to see if it's killing my battery life yet.
Those are the two biggest pros/cons. The performance is better on the S5. even with stock TW. It's a faster processor and even more so once TW is removed. The screen is better too, with a higher brightness output and better speakers. Just overall better hardware.
But the S5 doesn't look as good or feel as good in hand as the X. You really notice how well designed the X is and how great it feels in hand with the subtle curve in the back and the quality build construction and material when you hold the S5 which is just a slab with rounded edges. But that's the same for a lot of devices, not just the S5.
And for the Pixel, similar to what happened to the 5x and 6p, they will probably come down in price in a few months. Also similar to last gen devices, there will be a lot of software updates in the next few months to work out all the issues with N and performance enhancements. I don't really see a reason to upgrade just yet. (especially when the S5 still holds up well)

MortimerR said:
The root and bootloader unlock guides here are pretty solid. From what I remember, you have to be on a PB1 bootloader to unlock correctly, which is flashed via Odin. But I don't recall all of the details.
CM 13 has active display that works with the S5's AMOLED, but it's not quite as smooth/intuitive as the X, as the X had a dedicated chipset just for its Moto Display. That said, it does work in the same way, and I've found that it's a better notification system than the LED light. Haven't checked to see if it's killing my battery life yet.
Those are the two biggest pros/cons. The performance is better on the S5. even with stock TW. It's a faster processor and even more so once TW is removed. The screen is better too, with a higher brightness output and better speakers. Just overall better hardware.
But the S5 doesn't look as good or feel as good in hand as the X. You really notice how well designed the X is and how great it feels in hand with the subtle curve in the back and the quality build construction and material when you hold the S5 which is just a slab with rounded edges. But that's the same for a lot of devices, not just the S5.
And for the Pixel, similar to what happened to the 5x and 6p, they will probably come down in price in a few months. Also similar to last gen devices, there will be a lot of software updates in the next few months to work out all the issues with N and performance enhancements. I don't really see a reason to upgrade just yet. (especially when the S5 still holds up well)
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Fantastic feedback. Just what I needed. Thanks so much!
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for the g900f there is no locked bootloader.
for cm builds to be flashed on stock fw just use odin to flash twrp 3.0.0 then flash cm klte version, done.

Wave to wake

I'm interested in buying the Moto X Play.
I know that on Moto X Play there's no Wave to wake function as there're not special IR sensors.
But, On my Moto X 2013 there were no IR sensors too - and it worked fine on 4.4.4.
I found that it's possible making this feature work again using Tasker on 5.1:
https://plus.google.com/+DenHil/posts/g1bwKznW2No
I'd like to know whether it'll work on Moto X Play too?

Any chance that someone try it out on his Moto X Play?

Wave to wake works on all phones. It uses the prox sensor and far as I know its build in every phone. Works with cm and stock roms. For stock rom I use macrodroid to enable it,but tasker should also work.

Thanks,
But whether it's going to work same as the Moto X 2014 / Style? or different behavior

saturn_frak said:
Thanks,
But whether it's going to work same as the Moto X 2014 / Style? or different behavior
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I only owned a nexus 4 and moto g 4g and it all worked the same. In macrodroid you can adjust this by choosing different settings like : proximity far or near,slow wave or fast wave etc.

Sickaxis79 said:
I only owned a nexus 4 and moto g 4g and it all worked the same. In macrodroid you can adjust this by choosing different settings like : proximity far or near,slow wave or fast wave etc.
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I owned a Moto G 2013, the feature worked good and removed on 5.1.
Now I have a Droid Turbo which I broke the screen on- which has this feature in the stock system.
it's to expensive now ordering a new screen - so I decided to by 2nd hand MOTO X Play for now.
Currently I'm using an old HTC One S - it's kind of possible enabling such behavior with apps such as acDisplay, Wave to Unlock, Auto screen on, etc. - but the battery drain is insane with them.
Using the method that I mentioned in the first post isn't working.
Generally in the devices that have this feature in the stock system have AMOLED display (most of them), extra-IR sensors and also an extra processor which taking care of sensors behavior.
If you'll try to use this feature on device that doesn't have the above then three things will happen:
1. You're going to use the main IR (proximity) sensor
2. You're going to use the main CPU for getting the data from the sensor
3. As the display isn't AMOLED then the system have to turn the whole display on a not specific pixels
Those will lead to extra battery drain.
Here's again my question, when using Tasker (if it works?) is the behavior on MOTO X Play is same as on other phones that have that feature in the stock system?
And also is the behavior of Moto Display is same (turning the screen on from waving = turning the screen on from taking the phone in the hands)?

saturn_frak said:
I owned a Moto G 2013, the feature worked good and removed on 5.1.
Now I have a Droid Turbo which I broke the screen on- which has this feature in the stock system.
it's to expensive now ordering a new screen - so I decided to by 2nd hand MOTO X Play for now.
Currently I'm using an old HTC One S - it's kind of possible enabling such behavior with apps such as acDisplay, Wave to Unlock, Auto screen on, etc. - but the battery drain is insane with them.
Using the method that I mentioned in the first post isn't working.
Generally in the devices that have this feature in the stock system have AMOLED display (most of them), extra-IR sensors and also an extra processor which taking care of sensors behavior.
If you'll try to use this feature on device that doesn't have the above then three things will happen:
1. You're going to use the main IR (proximity) sensor
2. You're going to use the main CPU for getting the data from the sensor
3. As the display isn't AMOLED then the system have to turn the whole display on a not specific pixels
Those will lead to extra battery drain.
Here's again my question, when using Tasker (if it works?) is the behavior on MOTO X Play is same as on other phones that have that feature in the stock system?
And also is the behavior of Moto Display is same (turning the screen on from waving = turning the screen on from taking the phone in the hands)?
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Because of this prox standby drain I always use moto display instead. Moto display uses motion sensors and is very battery friendly. I think it works almost the same like the moto x you are talking about and only difference is it uses some other sensors instead.
Edit: Touching the device puts the screen on and i dont know how,but it also works using a flip cover.Maybe because of a magnet sensor. Not sure but it works .

If its all about your battery life (sot) i should run to the shop. If you keep you screen brightness low and adjust the stock governor settings you can reach over 10 hours sot with light usage using greenify and aggressive doze enabled.

Sickaxis79 said:
If its all about your battery life (sot) i should run to the shop. If you keep you screen brightness low and adjust the stock governor settings you can reach over 10 hours sot with light usage using greenify and aggressive doze enabled.
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it's all about doing the "wave over the phone" gesture and getting the screen turned on with the clock and the circle in the middle without draining my battery in few hours

saturn_frak said:
it's all about doing the "wave over the phone" gesture and getting the screen turned on with the clock and the circle in the middle without draining my battery in few hours
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Few hours? If i use the proximity sensor i still get around 7/8 hours. It drains around 5% battery a day and not a big deal for the battery shipped with the x play.

Try Glance Plus app. I currently using this one in favour of Moto display. It has proximity sensor detection built in.
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Sickaxis79 said:
Few hours? If i use the proximity sensor i still get around 7/8 hours. It drains around 5% battery a day and not a big deal for the battery shipped with the x play.
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why compromising on feature that originally worked on Moto X 2013 4.4.4 and removed on 5.1?
I found that there's a modded MotoActions.apk that I can install and use the "chop twice for flash light" feature which removed also in Moto X Play.
So the Wave to wake feature can be brought back, as it already worked in Moto X 2013

saturn_frak said:
why compromising on feature that originally worked on Moto X 2013 4.4.4 and removed on 5.1?
I found that there's a modded MotoActions.apk that I can install and use the "chop twice for flash light" feature which removed also in Moto X Play.
So the Wave to wake feature can be brought back, as it already worked in Moto X 2013
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Maybe you can better buy a moto x instead if your looking for exact the same features, because its not the same device. You can also think the huge battery is a great compromise for the functions you are missing and can be replaced using other apps and sensors,but the battery aint. Just my opinion.

Sickaxis79 said:
Maybe you can better buy a moto x instead if your looking for exact the same features, because its not the same device. You can also think the huge battery is a great compromise for the functions you are missing and can be replaced using other apps and sensors,but the battery aint. Just my opinion.
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I will buy Moto Z
But for now I have this device...
"Buy Moto X if you want XXX function" is kind of "iOS" style answer
As I mentioned
1. Motorola removed this feature on Moto X 2013 on 5.1,
2. Moto X 2013 don't have extra IR sensors
3. There's modded MotoActions.apk which brings the "chop twice for flash light" back to Moto X Play
The conclusion is simple - it's possible bringing the "wave to wake" feature to the MotoActions.apk - just need a developer to do it (Same as with "chop twice")

What answer do you wanna hear ? Seems like you are looking for an answer that you already know. All functions you mentioned are working on a similar way. Camera is double twist or press power button twice to take a quick picture and the moto display also works perfect and doent drain the battery, but you just want the exact same features on a different device and telling me its an ios style answer. Maybe i can place the ir sensors in the mxp with some special magic for you , if thats what you wanna hear.

saturn_frak said:
I will buy Moto Z
But for now I have this device...
"Buy Moto X if you want XXX function" is kind of "iOS" style answer
As I mentioned
1. Motorola removed this feature on Moto X 2013 on 5.1,
2. Moto X 2013 don't have extra IR sensors
3. There's modded MotoActions.apk which brings the "chop twice for flash light" back to Moto X Play
The conclusion is simple - it's possible bringing the "wave to wake" feature to the MotoActions.apk - just need a developer to do it (Same as with "chop twice")
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If you want "wave to wake", use something like "Gravity Screen" from the Play Store (or any of the other dozen alternatives) or a custom ROM that has it baked-in. I'm using the unofficial Temasek's "Ambient Display" and its options for it and that's been working very well for me.
I'm sure there's battery drain but it seems pretty minimal, I don't even consider it.
BTW, comparing this situation to the X 2013 doesn't work - that device has completely different guts (SoC/chipset, screen tech, etc.) than the MXP. When I was on stock I've tried the modified MotoActions.apk before and the chop-chop was terrible, not even close to how smoothly it worked on the 2013 which would be another indication that things are different under the hood. Even the Temasek ROM has it (double chop gesture) and I have it turned off because it just doesn't work well.