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Hi Guys,
Before I saw Razr M, I was set on SG III. Best Android out there. But Razr M come along and it's hits my sweet spot in terms of size. I am not that big a fan of big phones, but SG III was thin and was okay.
Tried M in the store and this thing is nice!! Fits in the hand well, looks very well build(like my T420s ) . Unlike SG III, didn't have to hyperextend my thumb to reach the diagonal end of the screen.
Though, a few places SG III does seem to have the better spec - better screen, removable battery, more internal memory, supports 64GB card, already has better android dev support(not sure if Razr M will get dev support).
But man, its just fits like a hand to a glove -- unlike O.J Simpson's glove Can't make up my mind.
Experts, what would you recommend... Anybody who's made the switch yet?
themogul said:
Hi Guys,
Before I saw Razr M, I was set on SG III. Best Android out there. But Razr M come along and it's hits my sweet spot in terms of size. I am not that big a fan of big phones, but SG III was thin and was okay.
Tried M in the store and this thing is nice!! Fits in the hand well, looks very well build(like my T420s ) . Unlike SG III, didn't have to hyperextend my thumb to reach the diagonal end of the screen.
Though, a few places SG III does seem to have the better spec - better screen, removable battery, more internal memory, supports 64GB card, already has better android dev support(not sure if Razr M will get dev support).
But man, its just fits like a hand to a glove -- unlike O.J Simpson's glove Can't make up my mind.
Experts, what would you recommend... Anybody who's made the switch yet?
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For 100 bucks, it can't be beat. They also did a good job of not raping the ICS experience. I'm very pleased with this phone. The non-removable battery bugs me, too. But, for $100, I don't think it's a bad risk. Just charge it correctly and the phone should last a good two yrs on it. Oh, and the battery life is very nice. I had an 1800 mAh in my X and this is smoking that battery. Definitely a nice little upgrade from the bolt lol. And, color led's....Moto hardware.
I've been using the M since the launch, replacing a RAZR MAXX. I don't like Samsung Android phones for a number of reasons; I don't have a recent one so I can't compare. My last four phones have been Motorola android. I do look around and almost bought the iphone4S in the spring but decided on the RAZR MAXX. I don't consider myself a fanboy but I have been sticking to Motorola.
The build quality of the phone is excellent. No problem holding a signal. The phone is very loud and sound is clear, both phone and speaker; important to me as I use mine on noisy streets. I like the size better than the MAXX, as you said, easier to move your thumb from one side to the other. The size is closer to a 4" screen because you have the bottom row of buttons using screen space unlike prior dedicated buttons. I'd rather have a removable battery too but Motorola seems to be moving away from these. The battery seems to charge faster than my other phones. I don't use my phone for videos or games so the screen is fine for my needs although it isn't as readable outdoors as my D3 (both on auto brightness). Phone supports 64gB cards according to this thread:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e25e57fac0
Since a developer's edition is available on Verizon I would think you'll see more support for these three Motorola phones from the developer community than any other on Verizon. Full disclosure, I did get mine free at the launch event but I really like this phone with the battery being the biggest negative as I'm not near a charger all day when I'm out of the office. I don't come close to the "20 hours of mixed usage" in the device specifications.
themogul said:
Hi Guys,
Experts, what would you recommend... Anybody who's made the switch yet?
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If big screen is not your choice, you can happily buy it, I am also very much impressed with RAZR M's almost frame-less display.. I am waiting for Intel version, coming this 18th....
themogul said:
Hi Guys,
Before I saw Razr M, I was set on SG III. Best Android out there. But Razr M come along and it's hits my sweet spot in terms of size. I am not that big a fan of big phones, but SG III was thin and was okay.
Tried M in the store and this thing is nice!! Fits in the hand well, looks very well build(like my T420s ) . Unlike SG III, didn't have to hyperextend my thumb to reach the diagonal end of the screen.
Though, a few places SG III does seem to have the better spec - better screen, removable battery, more internal memory, supports 64GB card, already has better android dev support(not sure if Razr M will get dev support).
But man, its just fits like a hand to a glove -- unlike O.J Simpson's glove Can't make up my mind.
Experts, what would you recommend... Anybody who's made the switch yet?
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i just did, also a t420s user (and prior t410s). im loving it so far. i was stuck between the two and wanted to smaller form factor.
need to find a battery charger, used to external charger and spare batts to carry round for a long weeked of travel.
I'd get the RAZR M, hands down. The oversized SIII does not appeal to me at all. I don't need to win any arguments against the nerds, so the slight sacrifice in specs doesn't matter to me. It uses the same processor, anyway, so the only thing you're missing is the RAM and the storage. Plus, I'm really not a fan of the cheap plastic that Samsung uses, and Samsung in general just has been pissing me off as of late.
I've been comparing both the last couple of days (Verizon) and will try and comment more later tonight, but I've decided on the M. A lot more to say, but signal strength was noticeably better on the M (wifi and cell - thank you Moto), build quality feels more solid, and battery life seems marginally better (I'm sure because of the signal strength difference and screen difference). Not that there weren't things I liked better on the S3, but in my case the M made the most sense. Will try and elaborate more later.
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Thanks guys. This is a very good(and encouraging) discussion.
jntdroid - Waiting to read what you have to say after your analysis.
Str0ntium - I am no techie expert by any stretch, so what steps do I have to take to extend the battery life. My current(2yr old) is just sputtering and just drains battery quickly. Have to charge it at least twice a day with minimal use. I probably did not take the correct steps to extend it's life.
themogul said:
Thanks guys. This is a very good(and encouraging) discussion.
jntdroid - Waiting to read what you have to say after your analysis.
Str0ntium - I am no techie expert by any stretch, so what steps do I have to take to extend the battery life. My current(2yr old) is just sputtering and just drains battery quickly. Have to charge it at least twice a day with minimal use. I probably did not take the correct steps to extend it's life.
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For me this is very good out the box I am a very heavy user and usually get 2-4 tops with my other phones that 11 percent lasted another 2 hours!!
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If big screen is not your choice, you can happily buy it, I am also very much impressed with RAZR M's almost frame-less display.. I am waiting for Intel version, coming this 18th....
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Why are you waiting for the Intel one? Are you in Europe? Or are you affirmatively choosing it over the s4 version?
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I sold my GS3 for the Razr M. The GS3 is a great device, but I've just never caught on with the looks and the size does make it unwieldy at times for one handed use. Motorola devices tend to have the strongest signal, and the M having the same Snapdragon S4 and being smaller just makes it a home run for me. Would be cool to have the 720p LCD, but I'm not bothered by it.
TRF-Inferno said:
I sold my GS3 for the Razr M. The GS3 is a great device, but I've just never caught on with the looks and the size does make it unwieldy at times for one handed use. Motorola devices tend to have the strongest signal, and the M having the same Snapdragon S4 and being smaller just makes it a home run for me. Would be cool to have the 720p LCD, but I'm not bothered by it.
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No regrets so far? Is the M's signal noticeably better than the s3's?
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No regrets so far? Is the M's signal noticeably better than the s3's?
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Not at all. The Snapdragon S4 paired with a qHD screen makes the device brutally fast. Don't get me wrong, the SGS3 is fast out of the box, but with less pixel, it's a missile in the Razr M. Other than getting Nova launcher to replace the BLUR launcher, I have nothing to complain about.
In terms of signal strength, that is always a YMMV discussion, but I am definitely getting better data connectivity. I had a hard time streaming Youtube music video at my work desk, but no problems with the Motorola. I seem to be getting an extra bar or about -10 db in terms of signal strength over the SGS3.
The big differences in the S3 over the Razr M is the size diffrence.
Other than that the Razr M does not support HDMI out. Even through MHL. Inside the Razr M also only has 8gb of memory but unless you really need 64gb's of memory I think you'll be fine. The screen looks good even though it's not 720p.
I do really like the circle widget though it's pretty slick.
I would have to guess that the S3 will have end up being more developer friendly if you are into modding. The Samsung also has some decent packaged in apps but that's not really a huge selling point.
Thread on sending moto maxx from mexico to your country:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...ion-coming-t2922398/post56726486#post56726486
Trying Again! will keep you posted
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I just saw on this sites that on wednesday next week, Motorola Brasil will present a phone very similar (if not the same) than the Droid Turbo, so i'll keep my fingers crossed.
i dont speak portuguese but its so similar to spanish that i can translate it to: ''you are a invited for a technological experience without limits''
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GSM ARENA ARTICLE said:
The new Motorola Droid Turbo garnered great interest but as a Verizon-exclusive it felt out of reach. Now Motorola is sending out invites for a November 5 event to announce a global rollout. The invite doesn't call out the device by name but the corner of the back shows Droid Turbo's characteristic Ballistic Nylon back.
Rumors are for a name change to Moto Maxx, resurrecting the Maxx brand, which is associated with some of the most long-lasting batteries in the smartphone history.
It's a fitting name too, the Droid Turbo packs a 3,900mAh battery, which can soak up 8 hours' worth of battery life in just 15 minutes thanks to the Turbo Charger. Other specs include one of the sharpest displays yet, a 5.2" QHD AMOLED, a Snapdragon 805 chipset and a 21MP/2160p camera. Check out our hands-on for more details.
Motorola has already filed for a "Moto Maxx" trademark in the US and is planning a Brazil announcement, so the phone should see a proper global rollout, including alternative US carriers.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/a_global_ve...turbo_to_be_unveiled_in_brazil-news-10075.php
http://pocketnow.com/2014/10/29/international-droid-turbo?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Looks like we are getting it after all!
Edit:
Its official, we have a international droid turbo called Moto maxx!
http://www.motorola.com.mx/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-Maxx/moto-maxx-mx.html
Now that would be cool....for us.... And profitable for Motorola....So why they shouldn't??
Just saw this myself and was going to post it. I'm totally sold assuming no weirdness happens to the phone (gets neutered, 3G only, etc) on the way to market.
I was just about to post something about liking the Turbo phone but not a Verizon client. Not even in the US.
This would be a much worth it upgrade from the Moto X. The Moto X is prettier that's for sure, but the processor power, and power management (battery and rapid charging) are totally worth it.
Moto x has rapid charging fwiw!
Let's analyse this a bit further:
This phone is a flagship killer for the following reasons:
The most powerful processor so far
Great screen
Great battery life
Good size for a phone
Great Camera
Front facing speaker
Great user experience:
It's also safe to assume that all the software features are shared (driving mode, touchless controls, assist, etc...
Losing the Verizon branding also indicates that the bloatware is gone, delivering a closer to Vanilla Android experience as ever. This also means that the phone will get updates much earlier than branded version (theoretically)
Not so great:
No expandable memory, no SD slot
Can look better
Doesn't have the Moto X curved back, which once you experience, you feel really awkward holding other phones in your hand.
Lack of front facing dual speakers
Size and weight (a trade-off for exceptional battery life)
Capacitive buttons (and for many reasons):
Android L comes with a different button icon set, means the current capacitive buttons are going to be outdated
I prefer having (and I do add using GravityBox) a menu button at the far right
Phone space wasted even though it frees up more room on the screen
If they add the SD support, improve the look, get it curved, add dual facing speakers, remove capacitive buttons and get it a little bit smaller (even if it means a smaller screen maybe 5 inch) in my opinion this would be THE PERFECT phone.
How is that for a phone review?
I agree about the cap buttons, I greatly prefer to setup an old school four button setup which obviously cant be done with the capacitive unless I want to give up screen real estate or go to pie etc. Still this phone is about the only one that captures my interest right now and I need something new cause the phone slut in me is crying out for something new. I just read that the Moto Maxx name has been trademarked in the US btw so that makes it likely that it will have the right freqs for Tmo and/or AT&T even if it doesn't see carrier release. And further implies (I think) a global release. They claim such here... http://www.gsmarena.com/a_global_ve...turbo_to_be_unveiled_in_brazil-news-10075.php
It's very optimistic, however, Motorola is known for late strategic moves. Moto X price has been reduced dramatically after a few months of its launch and this is when -according to what I know- the value and popularity of it went way up.
Also I am expecting some legal restrictions in the Motorola-Verizon agreement that might (or might not) make this international version launch come later, or with different (maybe lower) specs, or overly priced.
I hope it comes out tomorrow and with an affordable price (following Motorola's new affordability strategy,) but hey, the world we live in is not a perfect one.
ITS ****ING COMING TO MEXICO!
**** YEAH!!!!!!
i dont have to import this one.
invitation in spanish from motorola mexico: ''we invite you to meet our best hidden secret''
same day, november 5
OMG im so excited!
LOOOOL, bought the Moto X 2nd gen 1 month ago....and now, sellling...hahahah
definitily ill buy Droid Maxx!!!!, its coming to Brazil!!, 5th November!!!
tasty_boy said:
LOOOOL, bought the Moto X 2nd gen 1 month ago....and now, sellling...hahahah
definitily ill buy Droid Maxx!!!!, its coming to Brazil!!, 5th November!!!
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I would really wait for the announcement first on the 5th before selling the Moto X.
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It's very optimistic, however, Motorola is known for late strategic moves. Moto X price has been reduced dramatically after a few months of its launch and this is when -according to what I know- the value and popularity of it went way up.
Also I am expecting some legal restrictions in the Motorola-Verizon agreement that might (or might not) make this international version launch come later, or with different (maybe lower) specs, or overly priced.
I hope it comes out tomorrow and with an affordable price (following Motorola's new affordability strategy,) but hey, the world we live in is not a perfect one.
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I wouldn't rule out a neutering either which is why I mentioned it above. Still I think there is hope, Motorola got in deep with Verizon because they needed them when they were on the long slide down but this is no longer the case. Nor am I sure Verizon really cares all that much since the vast majority of people wouldn't know the new "droid" and it's international counterpart where the same thing. For this reason I'm hoping if it is restricted it will only be carrier release in the US but admittedly that's in part due to wishful thinking.
I am hoping for it myself, I just don't want to have that much high hopes, so that I don't get greatly disappointed pessimistic view I know. Hope is there though, I agree. The fact is the droid turbo is winning card, hopefully Motorola is "allowed" to use it, and Verizon can be a little forgiving.
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I am hoping for it myself, I just don't want to have that much high hopes, so that I don't get greatly disappointed pessimistic view I know. Hope is there though, I agree. The fact is the droid turbo is winning card, hopefully Motorola is "allowed" to use it, and Verizon can be a little forgiving.
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its almost sure that we will get it, first with the FCC and now with these worldwide annoucements, next week we will know.
Hoping for a UK launch! This (apart from the capacitive buttons) is better for me than the Nexus 6.
Are we there yet?
Really hoping that I can get this in Canada or import it in Canada for 800$.
Kiwironic said:
Let's analyse this a bit further:
This phone is a flagship killer for the following reasons:
The most powerful processor so far
Great screen
Great battery life
Good size for a phone
Great Camera
Front facing speaker
Great user experience:
It's also safe to assume that all the software features are shared (driving mode, touchless controls, assist, etc...
Losing the Verizon branding also indicates that the bloatware is gone, delivering a closer to Vanilla Android experience as ever. This also means that the phone will get updates much earlier than branded version (theoretically)
Not so great:
No expandable memory, no SD slot
Can look better
Doesn't have the Moto X curved back, which once you experience, you feel really awkward holding other phones in your hand.
Lack of front facing dual speakers
Size and weight (a trade-off for exceptional battery life)
Capacitive buttons (and for many reasons):
Android L comes with a different button icon set, means the current capacitive buttons are going to be outdated
I prefer having (and I do add using GravityBox) a menu button at the far right
Phone space wasted even though it frees up more room on the screen
If they add the SD support, improve the look, get it curved, add dual facing speakers, remove capacitive buttons and get it a little bit smaller (even if it means a smaller screen maybe 5 inch) in my opinion this would be THE PERFECT phone.
How is that for a phone review?
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You forgot to mention that it has wireless charging. This is a big selling point for me since I have a Nexus 5 and was the main reason I wasn't going to get a Moto X. With such a large battery it's perhaps not necessary on the Turbo, but since I'm using a new Nexus Qi charger as my car's dash mount, I really didn't want to lose that.
Nastybutler said:
You forgot to mention that it has wireless charging. This is a big selling point for me since I have a Nexus 5 and was the main reason I wasn't going to get a Moto X. With such a large battery it's perhaps not necessary on the Turbo, but since I'm using a new Nexus Qi charger as my car's dash mount, I really didn't want to lose that.
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To be honest, that was deliberate. My understanding is that Wireless charging is SLOOOOOOW, so freaking slow.
Think of how "Normal" charging is so slow compared to the phone's turbo charge, then think of even slower than that. Once you go turbo charge, you won't be able to come back.
See my point?
Oh by the way, it's the 5th of November here in New Zealand, but I guess I will have to wait another day or two.
Remember remember the 5th of November.
Update:
Hey guys,
Here are some good news:
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_maxx_international_droid_turbo_smiles_for_the_camera-news-10120.php
More:
Moto Maxx Confirmed As Droid Turbo International Version To Be Launched On November 5 In Brazil
Moto Maxx, the international version of Droid Turbo appears
What's up everyone? I have a Droid Turbo coming in the mail tomorrow and I'll be switching over from a GS4. I was able to upgrade via an "Early Edge" upgrade (I wasn't on Edge beforehand) and oddly this was the only phone I could upgrade to. I was looking into this phone for a while so I wasn't too upset about it. Have any of you made the jump from the S4 to the Turbo? If so, what are your impressions? I have a feeling I'm going to like it, sans the lack of root and an IR blaster.
Lockett said:
What's up everyone? I have a Droid Turbo coming in the mail tomorrow and I'll be switching over from a GS4. I was able to upgrade via an "Early Edge" upgrade (I wasn't on Edge beforehand) and oddly this was the only phone I could upgrade to. I was looking into this phone for a while so I wasn't too upset about it. Have any of you made the jump from the S4 to the Turbo? If so, what are your impressions? I have a feeling I'm going to like it, sans the lack of root and an IR blaster.
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I came from a S4. I miss root sometimes. Not too often. Like for enabling wifi tether on unlimited. But I bought this figuring it would not get rooted. Kinda done with my rooting and flashing days. For the most part I really like the phone. I generally get about 1 1/2 to 2 days on a charge. I love the quick charge as well. The screen if beautiful and over all its pretty quick. Still not impressed with the camera and I think the wifi sucks. The antenna is weak and it is very laggy.
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I came from a S4. I miss root sometimes. Not too often. Like for enabling wifi tether on unlimited. But I bought this figuring it would not get rooted. Kinda done with my rooting and flashing days. For the most part I really like the phone. I generally get about 1 1/2 to 2 days on a charge. I love the quick charge as well. The screen if beautiful and over all its pretty quick. Still not impressed with the camera and I think the wifi sucks. The antenna is weak and it is very laggy.
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I do like root for things like getting rid of bloat and additional tweaks to help with battery. I've got a 3000mAh battery in my S4 and it won't make it through a day. I've had the Razr Maxx back in the day and I could get almost 2 days out of it without breaking a sweat. I've read reviews that said the Turbo only has one antenna in it as compared to 2 or more like most phones. I spend most of my time on wifi so hopefully it doesn't suck too bad. I'm not sure how the Edge program works as far as the 14 day exchange policy. Seeing as how this was the only phone option I was given I'm not sure if they'd let me swap out to something else in case this phone doesn't suit my needs.
I came from the S4 as well. Miss root, but i knew before hand we probably wouldn't get it. It has taken some time to adjust to ads but overall not too upset about not having it.
The phone, i love it. I live in a very rural area and it seems to perform alot better than my s4 with a case on it (in terms of signal strength). I get a good solid day of battery life, im sure that would be extended significantly if i was always in cell range. Overall im pleased with the build quality and the OS. I love the near stock android, probably what drew me to this phone the most.
Sure camera ain't the best, but its a phone after all, good enough.
I think you'll like appreciate the speed, the brighter screen and the long battery life.
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I came from the Note 3, which is the same as the S4 hardware-wise.
I don't regret the decision at all. The size of the Turbo is more comfortable for me. Even bigger battery is a big plus. I don't miss root too much. There are a couple of xposed modules that I miss, but that's it.
I always forget about downloading adaway so I've been dealing with ads since I got this phone lol. I think I'm really going to miss the IR the most though.
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civiksi said:
I came from a S4. I miss root sometimes. Not too often. Like for enabling wifi tether on unlimited. But I bought this figuring it would not get rooted. Kinda done with my rooting and flashing days. For the most part I really like the phone. I generally get about 1 1/2 to 2 days on a charge. I love the quick charge as well. The screen if beautiful and over all its pretty quick. Still not impressed with the camera and I think the wifi sucks. The antenna is weak and it is very laggy.
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I came from the S4 and but I couldn't deal with the turbo wifi issues so after 23 days I sent my Turbo back. By far it was the best phone I ever owned but the wifi was killing me and a deal breaker. I have unlimited data but some places I visit doesn't have a LTE signal or not available so a constant wifi is a must. Just search the threads the issue is real. Then you mix that with no Root,lollipop and the HTC m9 plus and GS6 are a few weeks away it was a no brainier to send it back before my 30 days was up. If they ever fix the wifi issue and get lollipop it be a solid phone.
came from an S3, also miss root a little, but getting over it, battery life is fantastic (main selling point for me) but everything else about phone is also really nice. Good luck!
I'm glad I went DT, have not looked back one bit.
(It's nice seeing the "new"phones come out and not feeling that upgrade urge and regret).
I have a LG g3 and was thinking about getting a DT,you guys and girls that own one what do you think?I'm not to concerned about root or boot loader unlock just performance..
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I have the MAXX and love it. I thought the size would be to big, as my Moto X always seemed perfect for my hand. But these older eyes love it. What is great is that I never worry about battery any more. I used to worry about using NAV for an hour, now i don't care. I will make through a day no matter what i do.
But if you go for 64GB, the nylon is slippery. I hate cases, and tried some anyway. Finally settled on spraying the back with Plastidip and now the phone is perfect. I plan to respray with some color, and do some nicer masking, but that was the only thing i really hated. I even got used to the seam on the chin that annoyed me.
I don't understand why people don't like the camera on this phone.
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I mean come on. That's pretty great for a PHONE.
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I don't understand why people don't like the camera on this phone.
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I mean come on. That's pretty great for a PHONE.
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Those are nice. I take good pics too, but I can never find good things to take pictures of so I can show them off.
7eregrine said:
I don't understand why people don't like the camera on this phone.
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90% of people who ***** about camera quality are the people who can't hold their ****ing hands still enough to take a decent shot. That, or they're expecting miracles like perfect shots of something moving quickly.
I never complain about camera quality because after all it is just a cell phone. HOWEVER, my girlfriends G3 takes far better pictures than my turbo. It adjusts to light way better as well. Makes me sad.
This is not a trolling topic. This came from a casual Z3 user.
I pre-ordered the Z3 on Sony store and got it. The phone was great, screen was pleasant to look at, no lags ever happened, but there were too many cons that took over the pros imo:
- The battery was not that great, I've installed GSAM App since day one, and now the average screen-on time is only 5 hours, maximum is 6h30m. I've tried resetting the phone via Pc Companion... no luck. I mainly use the phone for Facebook, Web browser, taking pictures, and music, no heavy games.
- I've dropped it several times due its f*cking slippery glass panels. So far there's no crack but the aluminum sides are slightly damaged.
- It's so uncomfortable to hold. Sony made premium phones for sure, but it's not practical... the Z3 is just a beautiful metal slab but not really a phone. In my opinion, the curved back is much much more comfortable to hold in hands.
- Wifi range is horrible. I've tried putting the Z3 next to the LG G3 and Moto G, the Z3 lost signal frequently, the other 2 were fine.
- Glass back panel = fingerprint magnet.
- Finally, the most disappointed feature - Camera. I don;t know what the heck Sony did to their Z3, but the camera is just average to me. Plus it does not focus well while recording videos, even with normal macro shots; Superior Auto sucks; too tiny flash; a lof of Noise; a lot of disappointments.
- Not to mention that it fails so badly on cosmetic look. Huge gaps; unsymmetrical panels; bulging nylon corners. They are not a big deal for me, but compared to other phones in terms of cosmetic build, Sony has to work harder.
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So if you want to change, what is the point of this thread?
My thoughts exactly
If you want even less screen time G3 is your phone. Congrats. I hope u will see thats a mistake I own both phones so..
Maybe you got a bad unit, mine has excellent signal I came from a G2 which I still love.
I remeber some HTC One Xs and Nexus 4s had an issue where the v shape pins on the casing weren't properly touching the pin on the motherboard causing very low WiFi signal. I had to use paper in between on my One X lol.
Anyway exchange it., if you are willing otherwise enjoy your new G3. But I and many here can attest that the Z3 gets excellent reception.
As @hzmenxd said, if you want much less screen on time, then go ahead for the G3. I used it for 3 months and nearly threw it out the window, battery life was horrible and lots of lag even after freezing and deleting apps and ROM improvements. Maximum screen on time I got was 4 hours and that with a 15 hour full charge, minimum brightness, conservative governor and other improvements. Just get a case for the Z3 and it'll fine.
OMG. If you are changing to G3 just for the casing form you have no idea what you are doing.I played with the G3 (the 2GB of ram version) and in terms of fluidity my old N4 beats him. Don't know what the hell LG did with the software but it sucks big time (lag, stutter, memory frees up by restarting the launcher and so on). Don't know about the 3GB version if it has the same problems. I almost got the G3 but I turned to the Z2 (Z3 to expensive in my country) and for 370 euro brand new with 2 year warranty it was a barging.
In conclusion it is your choice, but think twice.
rjhellel said:
As @hzmenxd said, if you want much less screen on time, then go ahead for the G3. I used it for 3 months and nearly threw it out the window, battery life was horrible and lots of lag even after freezing and deleting apps and ROM improvements. Maximum screen on time I got was 4 hours and that with a 15 hour full charge, minimum brightness, conservative governor and other improvements. Just get a case for the Z3 and it'll fine.
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No no, this makes no sense. Obviously, going to a phone with a much shorter rated SOT is the answer. Getting a $10 case to solve at least 3 of the listed problems is crazy.
You could have caught 4 of these 7 gripes in the store. If you invest a pile of money in a personal gadget, do you research. You don't have to understand benchmarks and all the techno babble to go and test the keyboard and the camera and see how it feels in the hand. Shiny dark surfaces collect fingerprints. That is not Sony's fault. I got the white one for this reason.
In regards to the build quality, you could just have a bad unit. Perhaps you should have swapped it right away. If you drop it because of the slippery back, put a case or a sticker on it.
No offence, but I think this is kinda your own fault.
5-6HR SOT on a stock ROM is amazing. You can't even get that on the OPO.
I had the G3 and the average is around 4HR SOT, and that's with both debloated stock and super tweaked AOSP.
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No no, this makes no sense. Obviously, going to a phone with a much shorter rated SOT is the answer. Getting a $10 case to solve at least 3 of the listed problems is crazy.
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My bad, I should have made myself more clear:- my point about the case was simply for the "slippery" feel of the glass and aluminium body. In terms of camera, simple solution is use Google's Camera and/or use Perfectly Clear to fix any noise in the pictures. The WiFi signal is fine on mine and never had any issues but can be boosted with root or an app called WiFi Optimizer I think. As @abhinav.tella said, it might just be a bad unit.
atleast hold on to it incase u hate the g3 for whatever reason?
I jumped from a g2 to the z3 since it was the latest in the market... Took a long while for root but it finally got there.. I'm really hating the factory rom and still waiting on cm/aosp to be available as a bug free alternative..
I dunno how Sony likes having all those variants of the z3.. And the only one we have here is the dual sim version which really lacks behind in development since it's not the international version used everywhere...
Anyways from my experience with lg I'm most probably getting a g4 as soon as it's available (which should be sometime around Q3)
For the meantime I'll keep quiet and use the z3 all thanks to its 3100 mAh of power
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My bad, I should have made myself more clear:- my point about the case was simply for the "slippery" feel of the glass and aluminium body. In terms of camera, simple solution is use Google's Camera and/or use Perfectly Clear to fix any noise in the pictures. The WiFi signal is fine on mine and never had any issues but can be boosted with root or an app called WiFi Optimizer I think. As @abhinav.tella said, it might just be a bad unit.
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I agree with you, I was being very sarcastic in my previous post
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I agree with you, I was being very sarcastic in my previous post
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Oh right
Thanks guys for your honest opinions. I admit most of them were my faults. I think I'm gonna keep the Z3 to test it for some time before making a decision. But the SOT was really a rip off for such a hype on the Z3. I know the G3 has much less SOT for sure, that's a fact, but 5 hours on Z3 was just ridiculous. Everybody got at least 6 hours, but mine barely (or never) reached that level.
bluesky2111 said:
Thanks guys for your honest opinions. I admit most of them were my faults. I think I'm gonna keep the Z3 to test it for some time before making a decision. But the SOT was really a rip off for such a hype on the Z3. I know the G3 has much less SOT for sure, that's a fact, but 5 hours on Z3 was just ridiculous. Everybody got at least 6 hours, but mine barely (or never) reached that level.
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So, in your screenshot the Z3 was at 22hrs and it still had plenty of juice left? Are you not getting through a day? What exactly are you looking for with 8hrs of SOT if at the end of the day you have battery left over and will plug the phone in?
There are a lot of factors that play into battery life, two big ones are power hungry apps, and signal strength.
I was always using Xperias, I even learned how to theme and dev on it...
But then I decided I had enough of Sony and solde my few months old Z2 to buy Note 4...
Believe me mate...grass isn't greener at neighbour yard...it's a same grass with a same bugs
You'll have exactly the same issues, questions and doubts with any brand.
I do have to say that while the phone works pretty well, it is uncomfortable to hold and the glass on the back pisses me off more and more every day. I still like the phone though.
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One thing that I do agree with OP is that if you are not used to the flat back glass construction, then you are just not used to it. I have been using a lot of Sony phones, so the flat back doesn't really piss me off. Instead of "palming" the back, I "grip" it with my index finger and my ring finger, which makes it very normal to hold.
Users who are more used to the curved back of the g3, motox and motog will feel that the flat back is not as ergonomic, and they are not wrong. The G3 feels more comfortable in the hand than the Z3, but it's not like the Z3 is a massive spike ball that you can't hold it for even 5 minutes.
Regarding the battery life, yeah, if you are not satisfied with the Z3 battery, then you are not going to be satisfied with the G3 battery. This is not an opinion, it's a FACT. G3 has a higher pixel count for its screen with a smaller battery. using LTE on it and it will die within 8-10 hours of heavy usage.
I can offer you some advice for your Z3 if you want to improve the battery life:
1. If you are not in a LTE plan, then use 3G only, that will help the battery by a ton.
2. Some small games (Free games) are quite suspicious, as they use location data all the time when possible. I was surprised when a prolific game such as Ridiculous Fishing was using the location service on my z3 and used up a lot of battery during idle periods. Uninstalling it helped to increase the battery by a few hours.
3. Google Now - this son of a ***** is a big battery killer. Turns it off if you don't use it.
4. Location services - this son of a ***** too.
The lag on the LG G3 is mind blowing! Besides.. All the apps look like a cheap and crappy version of Sony app, especially the G3 album app haha , and that back power off/on button? God. Lol.. But yes, is a sexy phone.. Good luck
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_launches_with_52_fhd_display_in_japan-news-11960.php
What would you want?
Snaqejack said:
What would you want?
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laser gun and toaster.
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Better camera, fingerprint sensor, new design = less dead space around the display...
I would prefer a edgeless display. Also more inovations like the galaxy s6
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It is Japan only anyway if you believe the web
It has a smaller battery than the Z1 lol
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By 90 mah..
That's like, 10 minutes usable time.. tops..
I don't really mind actually. Fingerprint scanner is just another useless feature (imo) because I don't think I will ever use it. No QHD display means better battery life plus we don't need QHD on a small display. I really like the design of the Z3, which is a phone I don't have. So upgrading from the Z1 to the Z4 would be a big jump. 3GB of ram is sufficient though 4GB would be nice. Heard that Sony is completely redesigning their UI. We'll see about that. Smaller battery? Well the Z3 has a beast of a battery life. Z3 has 3100mAh whilst the Z4 has a 2930mAh. A small drop but I'm sure Sony's famous Stamina Mode would really help the battery life.
Sure the upgrade isn't a big jump. The CPU is a bit disappointing. Snapdragon 810 is quite infamous already. But all in all, Sony just started back to their 1 flagship per year cycle. I'd say this a decent start. Just keep their flagship up to date while (hopefully) making the Z5 a HUGE improvement. I will definitely upgrade to the Z4. I won't buy the S6 or its Edge variant. Why? It's too expensive, even with contract. Seriously. It sure is nice but I spent $100+ for a 128gb microSD card. It'd be a waste if I moved over to Samsung considering, again, the 128gb variant of the S6/S6 Edge is damn expensive.
For other device, HTC One M9 is a big no no. Seriously. I dislike its design, the display is definitely off and bloody hell the camera is ugly. The Boomsound speaker is nice, would love to have it but it's not enough for me to go for the M9. LG G4? Nah. It probably has a QHD display like the G3. I don't need that and frankly it's a waste of battery life. Plus the leather design isn't my style.
I prefer Sony since the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro to the Xperia Arc S, to the Xperia V and now to the Z1 because of how beautiful and simple the design is. It is not flooded with features that are junk (again, in my opinion) and the fact that they support developers is nice. Plus I am already used to how we flash firmwares, roms, kernels, mods and other stuff on Sony devices. They are very, very easy. I will upgrade to the Z4. Been waiting for it since the time I can upgrade (last year, December).
tl;dr: I just can't go to other brands. They have designs and "features" that I dislike.
that is only for japan . Sony will announce a flagship in the end om May . The z4 is the last phone from the z line from sony .
mmmmmmm I will never buy a phone without sdcard slot......for me sdcard is mandatory, so no samsung and no htc anymore........let's wait, for now is only for japan, maybe for other country we can hope to have a 4gb ram this is the only lack for me........and a newer skin maybe.........and a bigger battery or same battery but in a compact version.......I have z1 but I would have bought a z1c, I have a really big hand but in my pocket it will fit better a z4c......let's wait and hope......
https://youtu.be/bMdJQ8iuqs4
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Said thousands of times that i hate them making phones with no real new features and even no new design
If u ask me what me what do I want, I would just say i couldnt think of many but if they cant think of it either then no need to make a meaningless new phone.
I wont expect Z5 either, start getting hopeless on sony
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LeParkour012 said:
I don't really mind actually. Fingerprint scanner is just another useless feature (imo) because I don't think I will ever use it. No QHD display means better battery life plus we don't need QHD on a small display. I really like the design of the Z3, which is a phone I don't have. So upgrading from the Z1 to the Z4 would be a big jump. 3GB of ram is sufficient though 4GB would be nice. Heard that Sony is completely redesigning their UI. We'll see about that. Smaller battery? Well the Z3 has a beast of a battery life. Z3 has 3100mAh whilst the Z4 has a 2930mAh. A small drop but I'm sure Sony's famous Stamina Mode would really help the battery life.
Sure the upgrade isn't a big jump. The CPU is a bit disappointing. Snapdragon 810 is quite infamous already. But all in all, Sony just started back to their 1 flagship per year cycle. I'd say this a decent start. Just keep their flagship up to date while (hopefully) making the Z5 a HUGE improvement. I will definitely upgrade to the Z4. I won't buy the S6 or its Edge variant. Why? It's too expensive, even with contract. Seriously. It sure is nice but I spent $100+ for a 128gb microSD card. It'd be a waste if I moved over to Samsung considering, again, the 128gb variant of the S6/S6 Edge is damn expensive.
For other device, HTC One M9 is a big no no. Seriously. I dislike its design, the display is definitely off and bloody hell the camera is ugly. The Boomsound speaker is nice, would love to have it but it's not enough for me to go for the M9. LG G4? Nah. It probably has a QHD display like the G3. I don't need that and frankly it's a waste of battery life. Plus the leather design isn't my style.
I prefer Sony since the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro to the Xperia Arc S, to the Xperia V and now to the Z1 because of how beautiful and simple the design is. It is not flooded with features that are junk (again, in my opinion) and the fact that they support developers is nice. Plus I am already used to how we flash firmwares, roms, kernels, mods and other stuff on Sony devices. They are very, very easy. I will upgrade to the Z4. Been waiting for it since the time I can upgrade (last year, December).
tl;dr: I just can't go to other brands. They have designs and "features" that I dislike.
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Honestly, your only gain for moving to Z4 seems to be the dual speaker
LeParkour012 said:
I don't really mind actually. Fingerprint scanner is just another useless feature (imo) because I don't think I will ever use it. No QHD display means better battery life plus we don't need QHD on a small display. I really like the design of the Z3, which is a phone I don't have. So upgrading from the Z1 to the Z4 would be a big jump. 3GB of ram is sufficient though 4GB would be nice. Heard that Sony is completely redesigning their UI. We'll see about that. Smaller battery? Well the Z3 has a beast of a battery life. Z3 has 3100mAh whilst the Z4 has a 2930mAh. A small drop but I'm sure Sony's famous Stamina Mode would really help the battery life.
Sure the upgrade isn't a big jump. The CPU is a bit disappointing. Snapdragon 810 is quite infamous already. But all in all, Sony just started back to their 1 flagship per year cycle. I'd say this a decent start. Just keep their flagship up to date while (hopefully) making the Z5 a HUGE improvement. I will definitely upgrade to the Z4. I won't buy the S6 or its Edge variant. Why? It's too expensive, even with contract. Seriously. It sure is nice but I spent $100+ for a 128gb microSD card. It'd be a waste if I moved over to Samsung considering, again, the 128gb variant of the S6/S6 Edge is damn expensive.
For other device, HTC One M9 is a big no no. Seriously. I dislike its design, the display is definitely off and bloody hell the camera is ugly. The Boomsound speaker is nice, would love to have it but it's not enough for me to go for the M9. LG G4? Nah. It probably has a QHD display like the G3. I don't need that and frankly it's a waste of battery life. Plus the leather design isn't my style.
I prefer Sony since the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro to the Xperia Arc S, to the Xperia V and now to the Z1 because of how beautiful and simple the design is. It is not flooded with features that are junk (again, in my opinion) and the fact that they support developers is nice. Plus I am already used to how we flash firmwares, roms, kernels, mods and other stuff on Sony devices. They are very, very easy. I will upgrade to the Z4. Been waiting for it since the time I can upgrade (last year, December).
tl;dr: I just can't go to other brands. They have designs and "features" that I dislike.
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Well i am on Z1 as well. I Don't like how there is not much compared to the Z3 but it will be an upgrade for me. Slimmer bezels, lighter, bigger display, more ram. What i am scared of and will be waiting on multiple reviews from people themselves is the processor. I know they say it gets really hot and we already had heating issues with z1 and 2. I hope they know what they are doing.
KWOKSFUNG said:
Honestly, your only gain for moving to Z4 seems to be the dual speaker
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That's not the only gain. Better display, and camera. It is lighter and thinner. Better battery life (hopefully). More Ram for my multitasking needs. Flapless microUSB port yet still waterproof. I already like my Z1 just as it is. All these improvements are considered a big upgrade for me since it improves on what I already like. Like I said, I don't need the other features that I think are useless.
I've never seen anyone complain about the lack of features on the Z2. People still upgraded to it. Now since the Z4 is still a better device than the Z2, why not just upgrade from my Z1? I can upgrade my phone once a year so if I don't like it, I can just wait for another year.
They needed to change the design. Note hugely, just a little. When I saw some leaks I was disappointed. Then there were rumours that it was actually the Neo...thank god. Then they release it officially. Bugger!
This would have been cool...
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Can't think of what it reminds me of though...
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They needed to change the design. Note hugely, just a little. When I saw some leaks I was disappointed. Then there were rumours that it was actually the Neo...thank god. Then they release it officially. Bugger!
This would have been cool...
Can't think of what it reminds me of though...
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Is it just me they look like portable charger XD
Have a Z1 and looks like I'll move away. Can't see any real upgrade on the Z1 and one feature I really liked on the Z1 is the side charging connector. I've a Brodit car cradle and I just drop the phone into the cradle and it charges while I drive, no cables to plug in. They've removed this with adding QI or any other wireless charging.
Sorry Sony, looks like M9 or G4 will be my next upgrade (want card slot as I have a 128GB SD card full of FLACC files so Samsung is out)
Denonite said:
Have a Z1 and looks like I'll move away. Can't see any real upgrade on the Z1 and one feature I really liked on the Z1 is the side charging connector. I've a Brodit car cradle and I just drop the phone into the cradle and it charges while I drive, no cables to plug in. They've removed this with adding QI or any other wireless charging.
Sorry Sony, looks like M9 or G4 will be my next upgrade (want card slot as I have a 128GB SD card full of FLACC files so Samsung is out)
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Question. Why the M9? Doesn't the Z4 have about the same specifications as the M9?
Yes there very close, I feel HTC might be in the market longer than Sony (did not think I would ever say that). Nothing is sacred at Sony and its looking increasingly like Xperia may die especially if they can't put any real effort into new flagship products, makes me think the long term investment is not there.