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I have looked and looked and maybe im just usnig the wrong words in seach but i havenet been able to find anything yet. I am looking for a virgin 1.5 rom that i can use to start freh and make my own rom to flash to my phone. Basically what I am looking for is a rom (not the RUU that puts a factory default on it) but the actual factory original rom before anyone has taken anytihg out or put on there own themes.
I have looked and looked. I find all kinds of roms to flash to my phone but all of them have been violated in some way or anouther. and although they are nice i would rather do it myself than use someone elses.
If this is already discussed somewhere please link me to it and i am sorry but i havent found it.
Thanx in advance for any help anyone can give me.
This might be what your looking for..
http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-hero-roms/6699-cdma-hero-rom-gumbo-rom-1-5c.html#post41536
Check in the sticky wiki for available roms
Yeah me too! Damn all these promiscuous ROMs
Wouldn't doing an RUU and then rooting give you what you want?
casperlt1 said:
This might be what your looking for..
Check in the sticky wiki for available roms
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This gives you gumbo wich has stuff removed and added I want what gumbo based his off of not what gumbo did too it so to speak. Not that I dont like gumbo but he removed things I want virgin before that.
I have checked all of the roms on the wiki page and all have something done to them.
Where is the one that says here is the stock rom from sprint with nothing done to it.
justinisyoung said:
Wouldn't doing an RUU and then rooting give you what you want?
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No, doing the ruu from what I understand installs the factory original to the phone. I want it before it goes into the phone so I can modify it before it goes to the phone. Also I would like to re install the rom whenever I want but using the RUU i would have to use the RUU next time and the update it again.
Tipharet said:
Yeah me too! Damn all these promiscuous ROMs
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HeHeHe. Thats funny!!!
This has to be out there. Basically I want a rom that if I flashed it to the phone would be no different than if I bought a new phone from sprint and turned it on.
You cant tell me everyone that roots their phone wants other than stock rom on it.
@ cammel, I agree with justinisyoung
theres not much more to it.
just flash an RUU and root it. this will provide the base files you need for your stock rom.
david7586 said:
@ cammel, I agree with justinisyoung
theres not much more to it.
just flash an RUU and root it. this will provide the base files you need for your stock rom.
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Ok, say I do the RUU how do I get the rom off the phone to edit it?
I think what youre talking about doing would be creating a signed update zip. While I dont know how to do it those are probably the key words you'd need to search to find the answers youre looking for. Hope that helps!
cammel8 said:
Ok, say I do the RUU how do I get the rom off the phone to edit it?
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To my understanding the RUU is not a ROM.
It is a return to factory default. You would typically use this option when you needed to take your phone in for repair to the store or to get it back to stock.
So after your run the RUU, you would then root your phone using the method of your choosing, and then you would have what you are asking for.
When you download the RUU, there is a file called rom.zip
That's what you're looking for.
HERNANDEZ4LIFE said:
I think what youre talking about doing would be creating a signed update zip. While I dont know how to do it those are probably the key words you'd need to search to find the answers youre looking for. Hope that helps!
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I know how to creat a signed update zip I do that alot. I need a rom to sign.
ccapasso said:
To my understanding the RUU is not a ROM.
It is a return to factory default. You would typically use this option when you needed to take your phone in for repair to the store or to get it back to stock.
So after your run the RUU, you would then root your phone using the method of your choosing, and then you would have what you are asking for.
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Yes you are correct that the phone would be back to original. But then how do i get that to my computer to edit it?
Also with this method I would have to re root my phone.
Plus Ive heard that you can brick your phone with the RUU with a 110 error thats unbrickable. not exactly fond of that idea.
abcdfv said:
When you download the RUU, there is a file called rom.zip
That's what you're looking for.
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In th rom.zip there is a bunch of img files. im guessing if i tried to use that it would error out on me. I need the one with like sytem fioles and stuff I can edit.
You cant tell me this isnt out there. People have been modding this rom since it came out. So there has to be an untouched original somewhere to wich you can base your work off of. Otherwise that would meen everyone bases there work off of other peoples and never start from scratch. Is that really the case? Am I the first that wants a fresh rom to start with and build from there?
Contained in the image files is what you're look for.
abcdfv said:
Contained in the image files is what you're look for.
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Ok I have tried extracting info out of the img files with powerISO, magicISO, imageburn, IrfanView, XnVview and Iso buster. But all of them say it is the wrong format.
I have seen multiple threads that link to a how to extract the files using unyaffs and ubuntu but I dont have ubuntu.
So I now have two questions:
First
Is it possible to extract files from an img file using window (windows 7 to be exact) and if it is possible what program would I use.
Second
Is there a tutorial out there Im missing?
Sorry If im being a pain in the A** about this and I usually figure stuff out on my own but this one is really givin me a headache. I have been working for three days on this one and its really getting to me.
If anyone can help me I would Appreciate it.
And thanx to everyone that has tried to help so far. Every time I get an answer that doesnt work it just meens Im one step closer to finding one that does so thanx everyone.
http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/android/index.html
Here is a good place to get started.
What you're interested atm is the unyaffs program.
Google and forum search are really useful tools and the answers to your questions are out there. Just not packaged nice and neat like you would want.
Here's the jist of what you need to get started.
1. Android SDK
2. Java JDK
3. android zip signing tool
4. unyaffs utility
5. RUU
6. start RUU
7. let it go all the way just before the point where it actually starts to flash your phone.
8. check your computers temp folder for the system.img
9. unpackage it using unyaffs
10. enjoy naked young virgin
11. zip devirgined rom back up
12. sign it
13. flash it
14. fix bugs, rinse, repeat
15. try and search next time.
16. sorry about the crankiness, had a lousy day at work.
hope my step-by-step while not overly detailed was helpful.
are you looking for AOSP? or do you want Sense UI and all that stuff? RUU Includes Sense
obelisk79 said:
Google and forum search are really useful tools and the answers to your questions are out there. Just not packaged nice and neat like you would want.
Here's the jist of what you need to get started.
1. Android SDK
2. Java JDK
3. android zip signing tool
4. unyaffs utility
5. RUU
6. start RUU
7. let it go all the way just before the point where it actually starts to flash your phone.
8. check your computers temp folder for the system.img
9. unpackage it using unyaffs
10. enjoy naked young virgin
11. zip devirgined rom back up
12. sign it
13. flash it
14. fix bugs, rinse, repeat
15. try and search next time.
16. sorry about the crankiness, had a lousy day at work.
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Ok I understand your cranky, but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.
So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site, and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning, after reading a bunch of stuff on here, I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.
The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done, uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, "Easy GIF Animator", which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. Just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)
Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far, I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons, the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.
Yeah me, I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file, name it update, and flash it, but it won't work. After some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so I search find out how to do that and, wa la, I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)
So then I decide, well everyone else is adding and removing files, couldn't be that hard, so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all. So I added the programs I always have on my phone, and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee, now we are talking. (All from searching.)
Then I start playing with some of the apps, and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wouldnt send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)
So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway, and the apps I like in it, I can just add myself. So I search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone, add them to a zip file, name it update, and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how to make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out, after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh, live and learn I guess.
So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. (still cant) Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. Yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.
There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.
So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files, and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more, but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.
So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.
I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer, download ubuntu, and install it. Get all of my files, take them to the other computer, and start reading the tutorials. This is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal. would it really kill the people that made the tutorials to put that little tidbit itn there. go ahead look not one of them I saw asid open terminal thay just say type this) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out, I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.
I disconnect the computer, take it outside, and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. Seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying, and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer or operating system again was almost blissful.
I came back in, and through utter frustration and dismay, haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. Yes, finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME, I KNOW IT NOW. So I go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it, there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something. Screw it, I'll load it. So I download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. And guess what, it didn't fix it.
So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 gazillion that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me, or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.
30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". Well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.
I flash it to my phone, the whole time it is going, I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying, Come on, copying files, yes its working! Finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything, I finally have it, my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.
Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot and get the same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer, but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.
That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. That is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth, It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching. and not finding Sh*t might I add. there is a whole bunch of stuff but nothing that directly relates to what I need.
I dont think I am doing that bad either, I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting their Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now. And I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.
Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.
I thought that is what this forum was for.
I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.
I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor can do to his phone by reading a tutorial or watching it on youtube. (Sh*t I never even thought of youtube. Probly somthing on there I could have watched instead of reading it. Oh well maybe next time.)
I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.
I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.
Maybe you are Ok with that, maybe you're not, But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible, or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out, but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.
But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone, maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything, and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist, and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.
This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know, just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I would understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums elseware but I didn't.
Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work, I can tell them why, instead of "I don't know, it just don't work" I want to understand what I am doing, not just do it for the sake of doing it.
So as far as your crankiness goes, Sorry if I made you cranky, but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help, you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.
So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. Now onto what I came here for originally :
abcdfv said:
link to unyaffs program
Here is a good place to get started.
What you're interested atm is the unyaffs program.
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Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a Huge step closer. I got it out of the RUU, got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. but that is for anouther day, Im going to sleep. But thank you for finding that for me. I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
Congrats. Sorry I wasn't so specific first time around. Forgot it was in .img contained as yaffs.
cammel8 said:
Ok I understand your cranky but maybe you should give a person the benefit of the doubt before assuming they are an idiot. Remember what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of you and Uma Thurman.
So I rooted my phone on Friday. I then proceeded to download every rom on the site and see what all there was available. I'm guessing the same thing everyone does when they first root it. By Saturday morning after reading a bunch of stuff on here I decided I was going to do My own mods to the rom. Yes the others out there are nice but they are not mine.
The first thing I did was to make My own animated boot screen (I decided on a naked pink female android instead of the stupid green one that comes stock. So I worked for hours and hours on that. Finally got it all done uploaded it and it didn't work. (Come to find out the program I was using to make the GIF, Easy GIF Animator, which I use for websites all the time, was putting extra stuff into the header that the HTC didn't know how to deal with. just use gimp to make it and you are fine.) So now I have a working animated boot sequence of my own. (All from searching.)
Out of all of the themes I had seen done so far I really liked the Aloysius because of the way the launch bar was made. I wanted to do that. So I researched some more and found out how to edit the APK files in the framework so I could change stuff. So I went about changing all the stuff I wanted to change. The Icons the little Icons at the top, the buttons on the bottom. Anything I could change.
Yeah me I have a bunch of stuff now that I can make an update file with so I can update my phone. I throw it all in a file name it update and flash it but it won't work. after some more searching I find out that I have to sign the file before I can update it to the phone. This wasn't an issue before with the boot screen so i search find out how to do that and wa la I have a new theme all mine. (All from searching.)
So then I decide well everyone else is adding and removing files couldn't be that hard so I did some searching and what do you know it isn't hard at all so I added the programs I always have on my phone and now when I flash it, it is all ready to go. Wee now we are talking. (All from searching.)
Then I start playing with some of the apps and realize that any app that sends out an sms by itself wound send text messages. (IE: sms bomber, SMS my location, wavesecure) the program acts like it is working but then doesn't actually send the message. So I do some more searching. Come to find out Most of the roms on the site have stuff removed. It must be one of the apps removed or settings that were changed has something to do with it. Worked before installing the rom, don't work after installing the rom must be something in the rom, that or something I did to the rom afterward. So I do a fresh install of Aloysius and add sms bomber and it won't work. Must be Aloysius. (some from searching some from trial and error.)
So I decide I am just going to get the original rom, since I don't need any of the stuff in Aloysius because I have replaced most of it with my own anyway and the apps I like in it I can just add myself. So i search and search for a Virgin rom. Can't find one anywhere. Figure well maybe I can just pull the rom from my phone by copying the directory structure. So I re-flash my original backup and try pulling the files that way. I get them off the phone add them to a zip file name it update and put it on my phone and go to flash it back to see if it works. Epic Fail. After searching some more I find out that you have to have a script to tell it what to install and where so I learn through searching how t make a update-script file, throw it in the META-INF folder in its right place zip the two folders up sign them and put them on my phone. In case you were wondering it didn't work. come to find out after doing some searching you cant do that. Maybe I should have searched that one before just jumping in on that one. Eh live and learn I guess.
So I search and search for the not so ever present virgin rom. Apparently, if it is out in the wild, it is a well hidden secret cause I can't find it. Finally after hours and hours of searching, I give up and ask for help finding it. yes thats right I asked for help. Well that ask didn't exactly garner me a here is a link just follow it and you can download your prize. No instead I find out that it isn't out there. Not in rom form at least.
There are ones that are close but nothing completely virgin. Why waste my time on those when They might have something I need removed and I don't even know it. Finally ABCDFV tells me its in the RUU in the Rom file Packed into an IMG file. Not exactly a rom but close enough that, I'm guessing, it's the closest I will get. So now All I have to do is unpack it and be done with it. Yeah me. I have unpacked stuff before this should be a synch. Mind you that was at 2 pm.
So I use every program I can think of that are used for opening IMG files and none of them work so I search the internet and find butt loads more but they don't work either so I do more searching and find out that the IMG files that are packed in the roms are special and can't be opened in the normal ways.
So after more searching I find many tutorials on how to unpack the files but all of them are in ubuntu. Well I'm running windows 7 so that won't work. I search and search and can't find a windows program to save my life so I reserve myself to having to use Linux.
I go to my back room and find an old 700 mhz computer download ubuntu and install it. get all of my files take them to the other computer and start reading the tutorials. this is when I realize that I have no freaking clue what I am doing in Linux. Sure I have played with it but I don't use it like this. I get to the first command in all of the tutorials and it says type "gcc -o unyaffs unyaffs.c" but not one of them say where to type it. (come to find out it's in terminal) so I go back and search that to find out. after I finally get that figured out I realize that not one of these tutorials on how to do this is complete. Sure they might be complete to someone that knows UBUNTU but not to me. After hours and hours of searching and trying and failing I finally get fed up with UBUNTU. That was at about 9 o clock.
I disconnect the computer and take it outside and shoot the damn thing with my 12 gauge. That's right I shot it. No joke. No it didn't help me to unpack the file. No it wasn't logical, reasonable or even rational, but damn it I felt better. seeing them little green pieces of pcb flying and knowing I would never be defeated by this computer again was almost blissful.
I came back in and through utter frustration and dismay. haven been beaten by a fricken IMG file I again ask for help. That is when ABCDFV showed me the link to the X86 version of unyaff. yes finally my worries are over. I download it drag the system.IMG file to it and it pops up a message. "cygwin1.dll file is missing." You have got to be fu**ing kidding me. So back to searching I go. Come to find out it is a file used on windows machines so you can run Linux programs. I JUST SHOT LINUX AND IT IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT ME I KNOW IT NOW. So i go to the website for cygwin and wouldn't you know it there isn't a file like that on their server just an exe file that loads something . screw it ill load it so i download it install it, which mind you it says will fix the problem. and guess what, it didn't fix it.
So after searching and searching I find a website that has it. Sure there are about 50 million that had it but I wanted one that didnt charge me or want me to install there stupid program to get it. I get the file and install it.
30 seconds later and I am looking at the ever so hard to find, "virgin rom". well not exactly. It is not a rom yet but I have everything else I need to make the rom so Might as well be the rom. I make my update-script put it in with it, zip it, sign it and send it to my phone.
I flash it to my phone the whole time it is going I'm just praying it will work. Verifying, verifying Come one copying files, yes its working! finished. I can't fu**ing believe it. After everything I finally have it my own virgin rom. Yes, yes, oh freakin yes, everything is right in my world again.
Only one thing left to do, reboot phone. I hit the reboot and it blinks off. A second later HTC. A minute later Still HTC. It's ok sometimes when you flash a new rom it takes a while. 15 minutes later still HTC. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FREAKIN KIDDING ME. So I reboot same thing. Apparently there is something I am missing. Don't know what yet, I'm sure something I read will hold the answer but I sure as sh*t aint doing it tonight.
That is when I came back on. I figured the least I could do was to thank ABCDFV for helping me get this far. that is when I seen your post. To tell you the truth It pi**ed me off. Where do you come off telling me to do a little searching and I can find it. That is all I have been doing the last three days is searching.
I dont think I am doing that bad either I have taught myself all of this in the matter of four days by serching. I know people that have been rooting there Phones since G1 and dont know half of what I know now and I have only been doing it for 4 days. So I dont think I am doing that bad. Especially since I have only had to ask one question and then a follow up.
Apparently you were born with all of the HTC Hero information and never needed to ask anyone a question about it ever, and that is all well and good, but people like me have to ask every once in a while for a little help.
I thought that is what this forum was for.
I am sorry if I am not another script kiddy that is ok with other people making stuff and me just throwing it on my phone and calling it my own.
I am sorry if I don't want to say to someone look what someone else did and I was able to install it on my phone just like your 11 year old neighbor did to his phone.
I am sorry if I want to do something from scratch instead of using other peoples work.
I am sorry if I want to be able to say look what I did.
Maybe you are Ok with that maybe you're not But I sure as hell am not. And I don't know you from Adam. You may be the person that first came out with all of the stuff that makes this possible or you may be just another script kiddy happy to install others work, I don't know. I am sure after I am done here I will find out but to do that I have to search and I'm not into that right now.
But next time you want to go off on a rant to someone maybe you shouldn't assume they haven't done anything and are just looking for a handout. Maybe you should just help them. Maybe If someone would have said in the beginning of my thread that the virgin rom doesn't exist and you have to rip it from the RUU and there is no other way I wouldn't have spent the last 24 hours trying to figure it out.
This isn't my first time at a rodeo you know just my first time on this bull. I am a member of many forums for many different things. And usually people come to me for help cause they are too lazy to search, and I understand If I would have asked what is a rom an how do I root my phone. Or something simple covered hundreds of times in the forums else ware but I didn't.
Not only did I ask for help with something that is obviously nonexistent or close to it but I asked for a link so I could go in the right direction. I didnt just automatically ask where is it and what do I do with it. I want to learn so I can teach others. I want to learn so when someone asks why won't this work I can tell them why instead of "I don't know, it just don't" I want to understand what I am doing not just do it for the sake of doing it.
So as far as your crankiness goes Sorry if I made you cranky but maybe if you are cranky cause someone wants help you shouldn't be on a forum that is for helping people. Because it is just going to make you more cranky. Just a thought.
So that is it for my rant. Sorry it was so long but I had to get that out. now onto what I vcame here for originally :
Thanks dude That worked Awesome. I had to find a file for it but it worked like a charm. I didnt get my rom to work yet But cause of you I am a HUge step closer. I got it out of the ruu got it on the phone now it wont boot so I just have to figure out why. But thank you for finding that for me I coulndt find it at all. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
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Holy **** I didn't read one word that.
Good luck man!
Well hello everyone.
I am an application development student from Belgium.
I am proficient in Java, VB.NET, some c/c++ and also PHP/JS/HTML/CSS
Anyways, my recent interest has been going out to creating custom roms for the galaxy S!
The problem now is though, I was able to find some guides and such, but most were incomplete, and for HTC(and other) devices.
I have no idea what is different between making a ROM for galaxy S or a ROM for an HTC device.
If anyone would like to link me to some good resources that can help me on my way, or would like to collaborate (and in the meanwhile teach me a bit) I would be more than happy! (I am open for collaboration as I am pretty proficient in Java and I'm always happy to code and learn more about coding!)
I think the question is really want you want to do!
Custom ROMs for Android are as simple as using recovery console to replace files on the system with your own versions.
ie. Replace the framework.apk which contains all theme images with your own modified one, which you can use to skin the device. Same for replacing other system apps.
Unfortunately, most of these apps are closed source, so modifying them is difficult. The stock android system has open source versions of most of them though, and you can modify those and build them, and then replace the ones on the device. I'm not entirely sure how to build them up though, but it probably isn't too hard.
Then there are custom kernels, which let you actually change the underlying linux system underneath android - Samsung has an open source version of the kernel available that you can compile, and then flash to your phone using Odin or other tools. Compiling the kernel is pretty tricky though.
Well i'm really talking about stuff like SamSet, MoDaCo, Doc's ROM and others.
I'm not saying I want to create a pro ROM in a day or anything, but i'd really love to learn more to get better (always looking for more stuff to put on the resume, I guess?!)
Thanks a lot,
Kenny
Bump for some help
(sorry for the double post but i'm really eager to learn)
I don't have time to give a detailed response right now. However you will want to read up on yaffs (file system) and odexing/deodexing ROMs.
Thank you I will definately do that,
I am following a guide now to start out creating custom ROMs for android, however it was written for Motorola Droid and I have no idea what you have to do different for a samsung galaxy s.
I am a good coder, even though I say so myself, with a lot of experience. I also have a lot of linux experience, you name it
Only the problem is the old, and much known "where do I get started?"
So if anyone can point me out in the right direction on that, tell me how/where you started out, I would appreciate it greatly!
Thanks!
Very sorry to bump again
I set up my environment in ubuntu today to get started (just gotta fix a few errors, didn't know android wouldn't compile on java 1.6, only on 1.5)
Anyways, still need some help here! thanks!
Again I am awefully sorry for the bump here but i'd really like some help.
Note that i'm not a newbie at coding whatsoever and i'm not unfamiliar with some hardcore java, c/c++ and other languages, I'm just having trouble getting started when it comes to modding an existing android release (there are tutorials on HTC and other devices but some methods do not apply to the galaxy S)
If you're trying to create a ROM from scratch then unfortunately you're out of luck at the moment. No one has really managed to do so yet. By "from scratch" I mean the Android Open Source Project (i.e. official Android git repository).
What you can do is grab an existing firmware. Extract the contents, de-odex the apks, modify them or add new apks, optionally you can also compile a custom SGS kernel using Samsung's kernel source. Then you can re-odex the ROM, pack it back up and distribute it.
There's no real "starting place" as such and you won't yet find any tutorials about how to create SGS ROMs. Just give it a go and see where you get.
Yes, I do mean creating a ROM from stock samsung firmware, of course.
So my next logical question would be now:
How do I go over extracting contents from the existing samsung firmware, de-odexing and so on?
Any links/guides/tips are greatly appreciated, as long as they are applicable to this cell phone and not totally crap, thanks!
Samsung uses rfs, I think you should know. There is a thread somewhere in this forum regarding extracting .rfs file. Understood you need Debian though.
For some readup, go search for a famous guy named JesusFreke. Tons of materials...
Hope that from here onwards, this can lead you on, and to find out more. Google is your friend too...
I'm afraid my biggest problems already occur in setting up the environment, so it's really the very beginning that gets me stuck, i'm sure coding would be a bikeride compared to setting up the environment for me (i'm no hero in linux,not at all, i'm afraid)
How the hell do I get from point A (being downloading the full source) to point B (starting to create a custom ROM?)
thanks
of course if anyone has the time, and wants to, you can PM me your msn or something, if anyone is up to it
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I'm afraid my biggest problems already occur in setting up the environment, so it's really the very beginning that gets me stuck, i'm sure coding would be a bikeride compared to setting up the environment for me (i'm no hero in linux,not at all, i'm afraid)
How the hell do I get from point A (being downloading the full source) to point B (starting to create a custom ROM?)
thanks
of course if anyone has the time, and wants to, you can PM me your msn or something, if anyone is up to it
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Agreed completely! Getting a full cross-compilation to Samsung's Android going is seriously difficult! There have been some promises for tutorials and guides for setting things up though, but none have appeared yet. Probably because it's hard!
Well thank you for agreeing with me on that.
I am really hoping for anyone that can help me out here, either on here or in private, and give some detailed instructions on how to get started.
Hell there is enough information on creating roms alread, deodexing, adding/removing apps etc etc etc... The real problem lies in setting everything up properly.
I think I have gotten to the point where I'm compiling the android source (without samsung specific files)
note i'm saying "i think i am compiling" because i'm hoping it won't error out on me again after an hour of compiling!
But once that is done... I have no idea where to go next, where to get the samsung specific files, or what to do with them whatsoever once i have them
thanks!
Android generic source won't actually help you much. Samsung has made a huge number of changes to it, and while it is all open source, backporting their changes to get your stock source running on the phone is a major undertaking. I believe cyanogenmod was actually working on this, but it seems without much success so far.
What the other rom makers you see are doing is taking a snapshot of a running rom, copying over all of the APKs and the files on a running device, and then tweaking those. ie. Opening up framework-res.apk and changing the image files inside.
The update.zip roms that are what most people are doing are really just using the Android recovery to replace files on the phone with their own versions. Since the underlying system is linux, and everything is a file, this actually works pretty well.
The kernel development effort is completely separate from the rest of the system though, and Samsung has provided the entire source tree that just has to be compiled. I'm a bit stumped myself on all the details of setting it up, but I have seen some threads on this forum about it, and it didn't seem too bad to set up. Apparently you shouldn't use the codesourcery toolchain though, or something. Not too clued up on it, sorry. Hopefully someone with the details can chime in, or give us a link to the old post on it (I'm failing to find it using the search function! )
Alright sounds good!
So these recovery files you are talking about (the contents of /system) how do i retrieve those from a base ROM such as JM7 or the likes after a clean flash?)
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Alright sounds good!
So these recovery files you are talking about (the contents of /system) how do i retrieve those from a base ROM such as JM7 or the likes after a clean flash?)
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Root your phone, zip them up onto the sdcard, and then copy them off.
There are probably better methods, but this works fine.
Also, with credits to Unhelpful, he has told me that the correct toolchain to be using is 'uClibc or eglibc toolchain with ct-ng'. I have no idea what to do with that yet, but it's a start.
RyanZA said:
Root your phone, zip them up onto the sdcard, and then copy them off.
There are probably better methods, but this works fine.
Also, with credits to Unhelpful, he has told me that the correct toolchain to be using is 'uClibc or eglibc toolchain with ct-ng'. I have no idea what to do with that yet, but it's a start.
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You don't even need to root your phone to pull /system Ryan
adb pull /system <random folder>
is all you need ^^
Alright thank you, I managed to get all the /system files using abd pull /system
now next thing up would be de-odexing right, before I go editing stuff?
Now before I go de-odexing. Can anyone tell me what exactly de-odexing is and why I need it?
and what do I need to do to create an update.zip again?
thanks a lot all!
Tayutama said:
You don't even need to root your phone to pull /system Ryan
adb pull /system <random folder>
is all you need ^^
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Haha cool, didn't know you could pull whole folders!
Raykoid666 said:
Alright thank you, I managed to get all the /system files using abd pull /system
now next thing up would be de-odexing right, before I go editing stuff?
Now before I go de-odexing. Can anyone tell me what exactly de-odexing is and why I need it?
and what do I need to do to create an update.zip again?
thanks a lot all!
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The apk files in Android are odexed - that means they have a special index applied for dalvik that speeds them up somehow! I don't know how, I haven't checked how it actually works.
The important point is though:
odexed is faster, but you can't edit it because of signatures or something technical
deodexed means you can change it however you want
More useful info can be found from google - lots of it!
update.zip is easy - it's a zip file in a special format that can be understood by Android's recovery console. The easiest way to do it is to grab an existing update.zip and modify it as needed. Tayutama has millions of em around, so use his!
Then you need to sign it once you're finished with it so that the SGS will accept it. Samsung made a boo-boo and didn't disable the test keys for the 2.1 SGS firmwares. That makes it easy!
http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-sign-apk-zip-files/
Just use the test keys to sign it, and then copy it to /sdcard/update.zip and reboot into recovery and it'll work.
So, I used to run WinMo way back when, and I'm familiar with flashing, HardSPL, blah blah blah, whatevs. I haven't done the rooting process yet on my phone because I'm finding it hard to find a few key things that I need.
-What is the effect on my phone when I root, in regards to data? Do I need to backup? If so, can I backup on my SD card or is everything wiped? What program could I use to backup?
-Are there any crazy little tweaks or tips that anyone has to help guard against a brick?
-I've read the pros and cons list, but can I get more details from someone? Can this help with battery life, allow me to flash my radio, increase general connectivity, etc.
All help would be greatly appreciated, and I'll plan on doing a donation today. I've just been out of the loop (running WinMo 6.5 style out of the loop:/) so some advice to a rook would be great. My goal is to get out of school and come home and root and fiddle with things with little to no problems. Thanks a ton everyone.
Dig Life!
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The process of actually rooting doesn't mess with any of your stuff.
I use Titanium Backup to restore apps after flashing roms.
In general, most of this stuff COULD help your battery life, here there are Devs that will help - with sprint you get their tech support.
Well, I DL'ed TB and it says that I have to root first? Am I missing something here? Is it ok to root or will it delete all of my apps and what not? I mean, if it does, it isn't really that big of a deal, considering I can just download them again, I'm just looking for input.
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Well, I DL'ed TB and it says that I have to root first? Am I missing something here? Is it ok to root or will it delete all of my apps and what not? I mean, if it does, it isn't really that big of a deal, considering I can just download them again, I'm just looking for input.
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I'm pretty new, too, but I think I can answer your questions. Rooting (at least with the One Click Method I used on my Epic) doesn't destroy any data/apps on your phone. It simply gives your user root access to the underlying OS. Once that is achieved, you can modify things and tweak things. Titanium Backup will let you backup all system files and data, but only AFTER rooting.
This is not a ROM flash or anything like that from the WinMo days. I haven't gotten that far on Android, so I'm not sure what the flashing options are yet, but rooting is harmless on its own. It will let you royally screw things up though, so once it is done, be careful what you do.
Well, I tried to do a few things like listed in the One-Click root thread, but I guess I'm just not getting it. Now that I know the effects of the root, I'd like to be able to actually do it, but I don't have enough details. I haven't ever rooted before, and I'm finding it confusing. What was listed in the one-click thread wasn't specific enough for me, I don't know if I need to run from SD card, what the ADB thing is, nothing. I was a WinMo master and I'm finally coming to Android which is literally worlds away from my comfortable norm.
what os are you running? the one click comes with everything you need. theres an osx version the windows version that noobnl updates and the linux version i maintain
I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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I wouldn't exactly call root harmless..in itself it is ok..but if you give root access to a program that program has FULL access to your system..aka anything inputed on your phone or stored on your phone can be accessed by the program with root access. Though generally its not a problem..just careful which programs you allow to use root access.
Also, at what point are you getting stuck? did you install the drivers? are you getting any sort of errors or etc?
There is also some good reading over at SDX Developers.
I have hacked and rooted before, WinMo, Palm, HTC Hero, but this one was tough. It basically took me two days off and on, but it worked - finally.
Downloading drivers is a b--h, they are finicky and I needed all of them, kept
hanging on 2. They are slow, and kept looking for sources.
Search here, there is good info, then look there (above) I used OneClickExploit 2.2.4 which finally worked. It had some of the same files
in other methods, but this one worked.
I'm not changing roms, did on Hero to 2.2 because they weren't getting upgrade but I'm just going to hang and wait for Froyo.
Good luck
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I'm on Windows 7 64 bit. But I still can't get any of the one click stuff to work, I don't really know what exactly to do
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Download and unzip the one-click archive in to a folder. Double-click the run.bat. I had some problems where it would start and then hang. I often had to kill it and rerun the batch file. Sometimes I had to end task on the adb.exe process. Eventually after rebooting the phone, etc, I was able to get it to work. Not sure what the exact problem was. I think part of it was connectivity to the phone via usb. Connect through a port on your computer, not a hub.
Also, the batch file is just a bunch of commands. You can open a command line in the folder where the batch file is and run each line in the batch file individually from the command line. That will give you some idea of what is happening and where it might be failing.
Like I said, I had to stop and restart a bunch of time before it finally got through to the end of the batch file correctly. When it did, it was fast. Not sure what was happening.
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I wouldn't exactly call root harmless..in itself it is ok..but if you give root access to a program that program has FULL access to your system..aka anything inputed on your phone or stored on your phone can be accessed by the program with root access. Though generally its not a problem..just careful which programs you allow to use root access.
Also, at what point are you getting stuck? did you install the drivers? are you getting any sort of errors or etc?
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When I try to install the drivers I get this message:
"The MSS InstallWizard was not Completed for SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones V1.3.450.0
The MSS InstallWizard was not successfully installed SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones V1.3.450.0. Click Finish to exit the wizard.
And I'm basically stuck there. I've searched around and can't find any drivers that will work. Like I said, I'm on 64-bit Windows 7 with a clean OS and no previous negative install history. Not sure what the issue could be?
Found the drivers and everything that I needed and I'm rooted, but now I have one more question. I don't plan on flashing any roms, I'm alright with the stock rom, at least for now. I wanted to know what rooting will do in regards to over the air updates on my phone. Will I be able to OTA to FroYo when released? Any info would be great guys, thanks.
where did you find the drivers? I am having the exact same problem that you had where the installwizard cannot download finish installing the drivers for whatever reason
Alright, I'm unbanned so now I can post the latest iteration of how your phone should be rooted by batch script.
Note: This script is actually still being developed so if I break something in the script by adding something else it will be fixed. I don't have a shift to test on and I don't have any money. From what I know, my friend did indeed test this and it's working 100% so now lets move on to features.
FEATURES:
Wimax backup and restore - after the root process/misc.img flash
MD5 hash check for misc.img before and after.
Temproot
Hboot flash
Choices to ask what you want (Y/N questions)
asks if you already rooted with fre3vo and if so, takes you to the reroot script.
Credits?
OTAking71 and scaryghoul. (Hboot patch)
Otaking again just for beta testing my script on his spare shift.
Agrabren for releasing fre3vo
Me for writing this batch file from nothing but the instructions in the hboot downgrade thread.
Download link?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15069134/fre3atlast_v_2.7.2.zip
Github:https://github.com/xIndirect/Fre3atlast
Note: This script is made by me and may not be modified, reposted, or shared without my permission.
Reason I don't want you to modify it is because of the fact that I don't want anyone to break the script which can break the phones! Remember: Batch is very particular about function calling!
Code:
Changelog:
Updated to 2.7.2
Corrected output for link thats echoed into a text file.
Changed how it provides download links due to wget not cooperating correctly.
Added automatic function of checking MD5
added install.bat script for post-downgrade install of z4root and visionary
added automatic downloading of misc.img if bad md5
added downloading of choice between PG06IMG.zip or the exe RUU to downgrade
added wget to allow for downloading of the aforementioned files.
added device check
maybe some other slight things I'm forgetting
Quick developers note:
Everyone, I wrote Fre3AtLast as an improvement on the original script since it had some un-needed lines in it. I am not going to tolerate anyone else acting childish over this and the difference between devnull's and my script. It's just a more efficient way other than his and I still give him credit for giving me the original idea to create/improve on his script.
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Wanna buy me a coffee or something pretty for christmas?
NOICE
Flawless victory.
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Wimax Backup script doesn't quite work, but everything else seems golden.
Add a `mkdir /sdcard/WiMax;` before the DD and you'd probably be good to go.
Figured I mucked up somewhere in the wimax backup script. I''ll add it really quick
Awesome!!!!! worked great!
what are the steps on running this other than having a GB shift that's not rooted temp or perm ?
You just have to extract to your desktop *in its own folder preferably* then you just run the Fre3atlast.bat and poof; you're rooted.
VIDEO
You wouldn't have a video or a step by step guide going through this would you.
Thanks! Worked flawlessly! Unlike a different one I fought with for two days. lol
Cheers!
Syanptic, you dont need one. It tells you what you do by asking you. Just be honest to the script and your rooted
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sounds easy...
It sounds easy, but personally when possible I like to see what I'm about to do, yah know see the step by step to make sure I know whats going on before I dive in.
In the end, I'm just paranoid I'm gonna brick my phone. and hearing "its just that simple" isn't all that comforting for something that took a long time for people to work out.
Also does this requires froyo?
it tells you what its about to do by confirming if you want to do it. Perhaps if you ended up using the script or even reading it, you would have learned that. Im not being a **** but people need to learn to read. Also, it is just that simple. It had to be figured out but the implication of it is much easier than having to find it as is true with everything else.
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it tells you what its about to do by confirming if you want to do it. Perhaps if you ended up using the script or even reading it, you would have learned that. Im not being a **** but people need to learn to read. Also, it is just that simple. It had to be figured out but the implication of it is much easier than having to find it as is true with everything else.
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Yeah, I got that, in fact I opened the .bat in notepad.
lets see what instructions it outputs.
-have you rooted before? y/n
-clearing cache
-if the misc.img MD5 as well as the the original MD5. (I am assuming its outputting a code sum to check if the file is good)
-there are only 2 times this will stop... run? y/n
-if you want to continue hit y, if not n
-this is happening if you want to flash Hboot misc.img to be able to downgrade. -this is from saying N to the first choice (i assume this references the have you rooted before question
-congrats, your rooted, thank people
now I may have missed something, but that's not exactly explanation. Also no where in this thread does it say if you can or can't use this in gingerbread.
Your response is why I typically avoid forums and rooting, people offer help and then chastise you and or call you stupid for asking questions. If you think its a dumb question that you don't feel you need to answer just don't respond. Its better off that way than insulting people that came to you for help.
Clearly, I am hesitant about rooting my phone. I know enough to know that if you do something wrong when trying to root a device you can brick it. You can't really blame me for wanting to understand what I'm about to do. Also, saying I would know if I ran it is pointless, the reason I asked the question is because I wanted to know what it did BEFORE I ran it.
I am a little confused at this point from all the different posts saying you need this or you need that or beware if your using this so on and so forth. Yeah, I'm not a master programmer, its not my field. I don't have all the time in the world to figure this out on my own. If HTC would just open up root I would probably use that. But that's not the case so I'm here. Have some freaking courtesy.
what am I missing//? "error: device not found"
AllanGreg said:
what am I missing//? "error: device not found"
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I had to install HTC Sync before it would work.
http://dl3.htc.com/application/HTCSyncv3.0.5579.exe
SynapticMeltdown said:
It sounds easy, but personally when possible I like to see what I'm about to do, yah know see the step by step to make sure I know whats going on before I dive in.
In the end, I'm just paranoid I'm gonna brick my phone. and hearing "its just that simple" isn't all that comforting for something that took a long time for people to work out.
Also does this requires froyo?
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With all due respect to Indirect read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277448
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With all due respect to Indirect read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1277448
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I agree that anyone rooting should read the downgrade information provided by scary, but tbh i wish i would have used the one click root when i first started. I have neither the time nor inclination to learn anymore about rooting than what it take to make my phone to run awesomely, and there are many root-users just like me.
im not going to run a batch on my phone unless its been tested and verified on an actual shift.
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Yeah, I got that, in fact I opened the .bat in notepad.
lets see what instructions it outputs.
-have you rooted before? y/n
-clearing cache
-if the misc.img MD5 as well as the the original MD5. (I am assuming its outputting a code sum to check if the file is good)
-there are only 2 times this will stop... run? y/n
-if you want to continue hit y, if not n
-this is happening if you want to flash Hboot misc.img to be able to downgrade. -this is from saying N to the first choice (i assume this references the have you rooted before question
-congrats, your rooted, thank people
now I may have missed something, but that's not exactly explanation. Also no where in this thread does it say if you can or can't use this in gingerbread.
Your response is why I typically avoid forums and rooting, people offer help and then chastise you and or call you stupid for asking questions. If you think its a dumb question that you don't feel you need to answer just don't respond. Its better off that way than insulting people that came to you for help.
Clearly, I am hesitant about rooting my phone. I know enough to know that if you do something wrong when trying to root a device you can brick it. You can't really blame me for wanting to understand what I'm about to do. Also, saying I would know if I ran it is pointless, the reason I asked the question is because I wanted to know what it did BEFORE I ran it.
I am a little confused at this point from all the different posts saying you need this or you need that or beware if your using this so on and so forth. Yeah, I'm not a master programmer, its not my field. I don't have all the time in the world to figure this out on my own. If HTC would just open up root I would probably use that. But that's not the case so I'm here. Have some freaking courtesy.
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Indirect is just mad that he broke his hand
If you haven't already I'd read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255474 Scary does a good job of explaining what you're doing. You might actually find that you prefer to do the whole process manually. It's not hard, it's just a matter of following the instructions. It's very satisfying to root manually, you really feel that you've earned it.
And to answer your question, the actual perm rooting does require you to be on Froyo but the downgrade from Gingerbread to Froyo is part of this process.
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Indirect is just mad that he broke his hand
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lol
10char...
Jesusice is right, I'm pissed that i broke my hand. He's mad thats hes married and not getting laid as much as me. :3
Anyway, this has been tested and verified on a shift, multiple actually. I think that if you cant use this script, it's user-error as it does a decent job in explaining. It asks if you rooted before, if no, it roots, flashes hboot (after confirmation for flashing hboot as well) then it even backs up wimax for you.
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It sounds easy, but personally when possible I like to see what I'm about to do, yah know see the step by step to make sure I know whats going on before I dive in.
In the end, I'm just paranoid I'm gonna brick my phone. and hearing "its just that simple" isn't all that comforting for something that took a long time for people to work out.
Also does this requires froyo?
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If i'm not mistaken this downgrades you and also roots you. Also you have to take risk if you wanna root your phone. Its a big plunge yes but out of all the comments not one person has bricked their phone and also this has been tested many times before. If you too scared to do this than you might not want to root your phone in the first place
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
To get root just install supersu
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dbgr said:
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
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Did a Google search for "sugar qct" and I see a couple of million hits for "The Sugar Act"... :laugh:
Tried Root Genius, and it, of course doesn't work...
If you happen to find a link for the app or method you stated, I would be eternally grateful... My lovely wife and I upgraded our phones to the Cricket 6055U, and, since, while not an Android developer, per se, can find my way around the device without being scared off...
So, with due respect, I'd ask if you have the app or name correct?
Thanks, friend, and best respect.
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Oops... was premature... found it and am giving it a try... I'll post my results after I give it a shot...
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f606/vf-895n-smart-prime-6-stock-rom-flash-tool-2033867/
This should help with setting up sugar. The only difference here is to update it and you also need a username and password that I don't have on me at the moment. It will be a few hours until I get home but I will update asap.
Edit: nevermind lol, good luck friend. You may need a decent battery percentage as well
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Did a Google search for "sugar qct" and I see a couple of million hits for "The Sugar Act"... :laugh:
Tried Root Genius, and it, of course doesn't work...
If you happen to find a link for the app or method you stated, I would be eternally grateful... My lovely wife and I upgraded our phones to the Cricket 6055U, and, since, while not an Android developer, per se, can find my way around the device without being scared off...
So, with due respect, I'd ask if you have the app or name correct?
Thanks, friend, and best respect.
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Oops... was premature... found it and am giving it a try... I'll post my results after I give it a shot...
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OK... apparently I'm an idiot... Running Windows 10 Pro, and the installer says it's going to install to an appropriate folder on C:\... yet, trying to find it, it really is weird.... I'm going to try on a VMWare Win 7 virtual PC, and see if I'm able to find it there, and move it to my actual C: drive...
If it works, I'll be grateful for your contribution and praise you to the highest heaven! :laugh:
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OK... apparently I'm an idiot... Running Windows 10 Pro, and the installer says it's going to install to an appropriate folder on C:\... yet, trying to find it, it really is weird.... I'm going to try on a VMWare Win 7 virtual PC, and see if I'm able to find it there, and move it to my actual C: drive...
If it works, I'll be grateful for your contribution and praise you to the highest heaven! :laugh:
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Can't seem to get the beast to work...
If you would be so kind, would there be any way you'd be able to write up a concise step-by-step thing, if you've made it work... I've got the .chm file open on my desktop, and have spent a few hours trying to make it work to no avail.
Again, if it worked for you, your process would be welcome.
Cricket Alcatel Idol 4, 6055U
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Can't seem to get the beast to work...
If you would be so kind, would there be any way you'd be able to write up a concise step-by-step thing, if you've made it work... I've got the .chm file open on my desktop, and have spent a few hours trying to make it work to no avail.
Again, if it worked for you, your process would be welcome.
Cricket Alcatel Idol 4, 6055U
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My point is that the site recommended seems to insist on Lollipop on the small beast... and there doesn't seem to be a recommendation for the .bin files, and, when installing on Win 10, it seems to install the Sugar app into some directory on my C: drive that is really not that accessible... Did it using a VMWare Win 7 32-bit virtual, and was able to access the directory, copy and paste to my regular C: drive (old Windows geek since Win 3.11... and DOS 3), and it seemed to run... (of course, running as Administrator), but it really doesn't seem to work for me... Again, I freely admit that I'm likely not doing something right, but even after some research and the included .chm file, I seem to be missing something.
Again, and begging your indulgence for seeming like a noob or a rube, but if I'm not making it happen, I rather think that the tips would be lost on someone for whom this is their first Android device...
Kinda frustrating, as, even though I've been a tech-support guy and database developer for more than 30 years, this thing has me stymied...
I found it fascinating for the *#*# command, earlier, from another noble soul, and, obviously, I also found that the device as configured says, basically... "Don't give a damn... you can turn this sucker on, but as soon as you exit this menu, I'm gonna turn it off again."
Just a little frustrating, and it seems that most of the tips and tricks elsewhere seem to be thinking that new owners of the 6055U are running Lollipop.... aaarrrgggghhh....
If it needs Lollipop to work, and if there's a relatively painless way to downgrade, and then upgrade from a ROM, I'm good with that... the Idol 3 seemed to require that, and it worked well for me, with just an evening's work. This one? Cricket seems to have had a warped sense of humor about it... I seriously dig the device, and, since my Idol 3 broke, and my lovely wife's LG G-Stylo (which was a pain in the ass, and next-to-impossible to root, and then be just perpetually stuck at the logo screen with an unfixable boot loop, if one screwed it up, and just required sending the beast back to LG, as long as one took out Cricket's warranty plan... <sigh>), we took the plunge on this one...
Not much for which I require root, but, since I spent good money on some legit apps (and lucked into a few ... ahem... not legit apps that worked for me), these things require root... I know there's a way to do it, and the Sugar app seems promising, but, mildly autistic guy that I am (and 60 years old, with a memory that doesn't work as it used to), a slimmed-down step-by-step doc would be helpful... should some noble soul put such together...
Apparently, the root method has worked for at least one member here.... But this weird old Jewish hippie doesn't see the mental diagram....
Any help would be welcome, my friends and mishpocheh... ("dear family" --- been here enough years, albeit a relatively quiet member, that y'all might as well be family... )
Hey everyone, sorry about the confusion. I installed on Windows 10 pro with no issues. As far as the page I linked you can disregard everything but the app itself. The update that downloads is marshmallow, and I've had no issues overwriting the latest version. I may have gotten sugar from a different location though, as soon as I get a chance I will do a better write up with everything. A helpful way to find the install directory would be right click on the shortcut from the start menu and click find Target / open file location. If it brings you to the folder with the shortcuts do it again and you will have the install directory. The app should be in (install dir)/tool and the downloaded updates go in (install dir)/bin under a folder that only shows up once you start the process within sugar. I will try to compile the information into a more user friendly format tonight but I can't make any promises on that.
Also just to clarify, I didn't use any chm file
I'm wondering if you could upload your version you have on your pc. I just spent the last month in jail here in Orlando fighting a case and the only proof I've got is on my phone on a phone that I deleted my videos on. I really need the videos back too get a not guilty if I gotta pay for it it's cool but I'm out on bond and all the recover videos apps require root
I got this to work last night. Typed up some instructions but didn't get them posted. They're on my PC at home and I'm at work.
Basically use the copy of sugar in the download package in this thread and then start it and let it update https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/recovery-vodafone-prime-tab-7-t3548560
Those are the basic instructions too except we don't need to swap out bout and use the TWRP from deckersu thread.
Once flashed it'll automatically reboot. I found you had to make sure you caught this and booted into TWRP right away don't let the phone boot. Then transfer SuperSU in TWRP and flash.
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Asadullah said:
I'm wondering if you could upload your version you have on your pc. I just spent the last month in jail here in Orlando fighting a case and the only proof I've got is on my phone on a phone that I deleted my videos on. I really need the videos back too get a not guilty if I gotta pay for it it's cool but I'm out on bond an ind all the recover videos apps require root
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FYI this root method wipes your phone so I don't know if this will help your situation or not.
In sugar there is an option to not wipe, it's under session settings or something to that effect
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In sugar there is an option to not wipe, it's under session settings or something to that effect
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Wish I had noticed that!! Oh well, stoked to have root and it's good to start fresh. Got Xposed installed today and finally got that annoying charging light turned off. Working on getting wifi tetherng working. Then if I can figure out how to get the dialer to be friends with Google voice this phone will have all its annoyance fixed
Thanks so much for figuring this out and sharing!!
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In sugar there is an option to not wipe, it's under session settings or something to that effect
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Appreciate the help
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/recovery-vodafone-prime-tab-7-t3548560.
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Thank you for finding this thread, it is the same one I found but I couldn't remember where it was the other day when I started this thread. Hopefully this will help the people who have been having issues, although I will admit a more painless method would be preferable. I'm currently working on modifying a dirtycow exploit to simply flash the recovery and reboot into twrp, if I get it to work I will zip it all up and post it here.
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Wish I had noticed that!! Oh well, stoked to have root and it's good to start fresh. Got Xposed installed today and finally got that annoying charging light turned off. Working on getting wifi tetherng working. Then if I can figure out how to get the dialer to be friends with Google voice this phone will have all its annoyance fixed
Thanks so much for figuring this out and sharing!!
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I got wifi tethering working I did a lot of things but I believe that did it was adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to my build.prop then I went into system/app and changed serviceentitlement.apk into serviceentitlement.oat using es file Explorer
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I got wifi tethering working I did a lot of things but I believe that did it was adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to my build.prop then I went into system/app and changed serviceentitlement.apk into serviceentitlement.oat using es file Explorer
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I just tested this and it indeed does work. Great find friend!
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I got wifi tethering working I did a lot of things but I believe that did it was adding net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to my build.prop then I went into system/app and changed serviceentitlement.apk into serviceentitlement.oat using es file Explorer
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Thanks for figuring this out!!! I'd been messing with it for a few days. The renaming the apk to .oat was the piece I was missing. That and a reboot got it working!!
dbgr said:
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
To get root just install supersu
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so im getting ready to purchase this device so there is root and twrp for it or no
Dude, did you read the thread at all? I don't mind helping but you gotta do your part. Yes there is TWRP and Root
dbgr said:
Hello all, I found a method to Root and get a custom recovery on our cricket variant, no donations required! You need to find a copy of sugar qct with a username and password, I don't remember exactly where I found it but it shouldn't be too difficult to find. Then you need to let it update to the latest build, which includes the programmer for our phone. If you don't see 6055u in the list it's not up to date. From there, Hook up your phone (may need to manually put it in download mode. Press upgrade and then navigate to the install directory, look in /bin and find where it downloads all the mbm files. Replace the one that starts with an r with the TWRP recovery for 6055. You may have to overwrite it multiple times during the process. If you did it correctly you will be able to boot into TWRP, if not try again. If you don't close sugar I believe it won't overwrite the firmware files, but I haven't messed with it much. I will try to write a tool to make it easier when I have the time but I'm pretty busy. Feel free to pm me with any questions and I will help the best I can.
To get root just install supersu
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do you hold volume down when it reboots
link22534 said:
do you hold volume down when it reboots
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It's volume up and power