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So Amazon announced the new Kindle HDX.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/25/amazon-debuts-kindle-fire-hdx-7-and-8-9-inch-tablets-we-go-han/
Also available for pre-order already.
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Fire-HDX-Display-Wi-Fi/dp/B00BHJRYYS
Comes with a new JB based OS. Some articles suggesting its likely we'll get an update to the new OS. Especially likely given that they are retooling the 2012 HD and continuing to sell it.
They looks like beasts of a machine though. s800 quad, ardrino 330 gpu. Wouldn't mind the upgrade....
I hope we find out more details as to how exploitable it will be considering I don't like their stock os, and we would have to assume someone like hashcode would be willing to make a ROM for it if it was even exploitable, I don't know anything about snapdragon processors so I don't know if they have any similar security implementations like the m-shield. On another note, it has no minihdmi plug, I find that annoying because as the article says you need something like a smart TV or a ps3/ps4 to use the method it uses to play things on your TV, which not all people have... Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I would totally buy it though if it gets exploited to a point we can flash custom roms.
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stunts513 said:
I hope we find out more details as to how exploitable it will be considering I don't like their stock os, and we would have to assume someone like hashcode would be willing to make a ROM for it if it was even exploitable, I don't know anything about snapdragon processors so I don't know if they have any similar security implementations like the m-shield. On another note, it has no minihdmi plug, I find that annoying because as the article says you need something like a smart TV or a ps3/ps4 to use the method it uses to play things on your TV, which not all people have... Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, I would totally buy it though if it gets exploited to a point we can flash custom roms.
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is android 4.2.2. fire os 3.0 is based in android 4.2.2 and the old kindle is receiving the update
Eh... The fact that they only went from 1 to 2GB of RAM from HD8.9 to HDX8.9 is kind of silly.
This is 2013 and RAM is easy to come by and more useful than ever. 2GB of ram doesn't even fit the minimum requirements of some applications these days. Not to mention that when you're using a quad core processor more than 2GB of ram will come in very handy....
Maybe if they cut the price in half it'd be worth buying... They should have thought this through a little more....
I agree ram is cheap but let's not throw ram and speed at what a programmer can do with less. my wife's infuse runs jelly bean on a single core and 512 megs and it runs most apps just fine or at least as well as my moto m
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Personally I'm glad it at least doubled the ram, my kindle running cm 10.1 at idle with nothing running is usually using about 62% of my ram, and when i launch a web browser it really lags and my ram usage is usually anywhere around 85-90%. I find it funny now days 2gb of ram isn't considered much, back when I was younger it was considered a lot to have half a GB, heck my current PC only has 2gb of ram.
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Great specs and price for the Wi-Fi 16/32GB ones. I might get HDX over the Nexus 7 2013. No built-in GPS is the biggest turn-off for me, though.
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Thats great news, but where did you see that?
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Thats great news, but where did you see that?
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I think that was a question.
stunts513 said:
I find it funny now days 2gb of ram isn't considered much, back when I was younger it was considered a lot to have half a GB, heck my current PC only has 2gb of ram.
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I remember one day paying $400 for 4 MB of ram. I don't even want to think what I was paying per Gb when I went from 256k to 640k on my 8088.
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i talked to amazon support, they said me that they are updating the kindle fire hd to the fire os. future kinology in android 4.2.2 ?
Fire OS 3.0 is not coming to 2012 devices(look at usuable space on devices)
amazon support isnt an exactly reliable source especially when amazon pushes mystery updates and support cant tell you what it is
2013 7" kfhd does not have a camera, mic, hdmi, and wifi is single antenna(not MIMO)
as impressive the hdx's specs are nice but the bootloaders gonna be locked(unlocking will most likely break some feature or most likely brick it)
if you noticed all the 2013 16 gigs only have 10.9 gigs of usuable space. they upped the bloat from 2012 models have 12.6 gigs
amazon included a charger but jacked the price up for the device
second screen is crap even if you had a streaming device(IE roku) you would rather just use the devices remote or the Google play app of said device which you know wont be in amazon's app system and doesn't make up for lack of video output.
just beware Qualcomm and Amazon just doesn't sound good for users of this forum
Keep in mind that the kindle fire 1 and two are two totally different OS's but the same look
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i talked to amazon support, they said me that they are updating the kindle fire hd to the fire os. future kinology in android 4.2.2 ?
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Sweeet!
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Maromi said:
Fire OS 3.0 is not coming to 2012 devices(look at usuable space on devices)
amazon support isnt an exactly reliable source especially when amazon pushes mystery updates and support cant tell you what it is
2013 7" kfhd does not have a camera, mic, hdmi, and wifi is single antenna(not MIMO)
as impressive the hdx's specs are nice but the bootloaders gonna be locked(unlocking will most likely break some feature or most likely brick it)
if you noticed all the 2013 16 gigs only have 10.9 gigs of usuable space. they upped the bloat from 2012 models have 12.6 gigs
amazon included a charger but jacked the price up for the device
second screen is crap even if you had a streaming device(IE roku) you would rather just use the devices remote or the Google play app of said device which you know wont be in amazon's app system and doesn't make up for lack of video output.
just beware Qualcomm and Amazon just doesn't sound good for users of this forum
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Oh. Bummer
Please know that the new devices (including the 2013 HD 7"!) will all need new exploits before they can be effectively unlocked for advanced development such as kernels and AOSP.
Just setting the expectation in advance.
While the specs are certainly very good, they will come at a price (exploit needed before custom ROM development).
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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ah great..then I guess I'll just wait till it gets rooted and then I'll buy it immediately.
mrkhigh said:
Highly likely this device one day will be able to, but at this point there is no promises. Probably for play store we will just need root which most devices get within a few months. As for exploits for unlocked boot loaders for custom Roms it probably will happen someday but keep in mind we may have been still waiting on the kfhd if it wasn't for hashcode.
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Even with root and play store installed, lots of apps still won't be listed compatible in play store even when they are. Amazon does something blocking apps in the play store for the fire. I believe there is an app that can fix it. Idk if it still works between Google updating its system and the app hasn't been updated in awhile
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Even with root and play store installed, lots of apps still won't be listed compatible in play store even when they are. Amazon does something blocking apps in the play store for the fire. I believe there is an app that can fix it. Idk if it still works between Google updating its system and the app hasn't been updated in awhile
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there is a hacked version of the google play and all the apps show compatible
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Link?
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As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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Even though now I am using Nexus 7 2013 32gb model but when amazon announce new kindle fire HDX, I feel I will take this one.
When cyanogenmod arrived in this HDX,it will be perfect
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without lte, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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stunts513 said:
I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without late, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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I think there is a FCC link around here
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Ishan Sardar said:
Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
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No one is sure, until the device is released. There is Software Spec Sheet line around somewhere but until now, we got wait. We probably will be able to take root and android but that may take some time.
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I will buy this device for sure, my actual Kindle Fire is getting old and Amazon has put a really nice price in the HDX 7. After all tech need to be updated once a year approximately
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Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
karanrcb said:
Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Hmmmm...... I know how hard it is. And yeah a waste of time too!! i would rather see CM on the HDX..... that would be awesome!!
It already has
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@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
I've seen some leaked information that Amazon is preparing, and that they will release new Fire Tablets and also a New FireTV-Stick, next week!
I have also noticed that several weeks ago, some colors of the FireHD8 sometimes are unavailable, in very short supply or are also offered Used-Like-New/Used-Very-Good, what could be a sign that Amazon is preparing to launch some new models with some enhanced features.
Does anyone know if this information is true and what we can expect in these new Fire HD 8 tablet (2015) models?
The new Fire HD 8 is here! What's new?
All-new Fire HD 8, now with up to 12 hours of battery life, 2X the storage, and 50% more RAM for faster performance - made for all day entertainment.
Last year's model had 8 hours of battery life, now 12 hours; 8 GB and 16 GB choices vs now 16 & 32 GB; 1 GB RAM now 1.5 GB same processor speed; microSD card storage old model 128Gb now 200GB; price is lower then old model 16Gb $90 32GB $120 same colors: black, magenta, blue, and tangerine. The big deal for this tablet is the addition of Alexa, but the same goes for the old model but you will need to update your software to get it.
I would like to add, that after checking the product description at Amazon.com, I have noticed that this newer model is also much thicker than the previous 2015 models, because this newer model now has 0.4 inches thick.
All-new Fire HD 8 (2016):
Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5 x 0.4 inches
Shipping Weight: 1 pounds
Old Fire HD 8 (2015):
Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5 x 0.3 inches
Shipping Weight: 1.4 pounds
This could perhaps be because this new model now comes with a higher capacity battery, which is larger and heavier.
I do not know if this information is correct, but if it is true, the new FireHD8 (2016) Model will be thicker (0.4" instead of 0.3" of the Old 2015 model), but it will be also heavier !
The Bad news is that Amazon just to keep lower the product cost and the final sale price, decided to stuck with almost the same processor instead of raise it speed a little bit, so that this NEW fire tablet could work with less lagging and more efficiently...
The good news is that Amazon finally decided to add 50% more RAM and also doubled (2X) the storage Memory !
The Best thing is that now the price is much lower, which makes these new Fire Tablets more affordable and appealing than other tablets brands !!
I already have an HD8 Fire (2015), but unfortunately due to a weaker CPU, the poorest Camera and Slower WiFi, compared with the last year model... I do not think I'll change my FireHD8 (2015) by this new 2016, because aside from memory and battery, I really can not find such big differences or improvements...
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazons-tablet-strategy-of-less-is-more/
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ulises.rodriguez said:
but unfortunately due to a weaker CPU
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It should be noted that this is actually a new CPU, not the same as last years.
MediaTek MT8163
Here are the details:
https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
SiXiam said:
It should be noted that this is actually a new CPU, not the same as last years.
MediaTek MT8163
Here are the details:
https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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I totally agree on your comments about the processor, but what I meant was that Amazon must've taken advantage of this new hardware upgrade, to upgrade also the processor with a higher-speed, to help a little with the performance and operation of the NEW FireHD8 Tablet...
I already know that for watching or streaming videos, is not necessary to have a very fast processor, because all the newest tablets now bring hardware decoders and others separate components to help and accelerate these functions...
I am very happy with the new lower price, with the bigger Battery (12 hours), and with the addition of more RAM and Storage Memory, but I am very disappointed and don't understand why Amazon decided to lower the Front/Rear Cameras to 2MP/VGA, that was 5MP/720P on the previous 2016 model.
Another thing I do not understand is, why if most cheap Chinese tablets have GPS, none of the new Amazon Fire Tablets comes with GPS ?
Maybe this GPS function is not so necessary to some users, but it would be a very important addition !
However I think, as Elias already has mentioned on his excellent review in*www.aftvnews.com, that Amazon seems to now focus on selling best low-end tablets, at the lowest possible price:
"Amazon’s tablet strategy of Less is More"
"Amazon just announced their new Fire HD 8 tablet and in doing so, have dove deeper into their tablet strategy of: less is more. Amazon’s Fire Phone failure marks a turning point where the company stopped trying to go after the upper-end flagship hardware market, and started dominating the lower-end of the hardware spectrum. Last year’sline of new tablets reduced hardware specs across the board and cut prices by more than half. In doing so, they became Amazon’s best selling tablets to date, and include Amazon’s single best-selling device ever, the $49.99 Fire 7″ tablet, which incidentaly took the title of best-selling device from Amazon’s other budget device, the Fire TV Stick. This year’s new Fire HD 8 continues the trend of less is more."
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazons-tablet-strategy-of-less-is-more/
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I totally agree on your comments about the processor, but what I meant was that Amazon must've taken advantage of this new hardware upgrade, to upgrade also the processor with a higher-speed, to help a little with the performance and operation of the NEW FireHD8 Tablet...
I already know that for watching or streaming videos, is not necessary to have a very fast processor, because all the newest tablets now bring hardware decoders and others separate components to help and accelerate these functions...
I am very happy with the new lower price, with the bigger Battery (12 hours), and with the addition of more RAM and Storage Memory, but I am very disappointed and don't understand why Amazon decided to lower the Front/Rear Cameras to 2MP/VGA, that was 5MP/720P on the previous 2016 model.
Another thing I do not understand is, why if most cheap Chinese tablets have GPS, none of the new Amazon Fire Tablets comes with GPS ?
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I think we can say with certainty that the camera is a cost issue. Last years model was a lot more money. GPS though in addition to cost may be that because it doesn't have a cellular version, so having GPS is useless on the go. You you could tether with a phone, but that device always has GPS anyway, so it becomes pointless to have it on the Fire.
Very unusual, except the first gen (2011)
Amazon has released 3 new versions every Oct
link to new 2016 Fire HD 8
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018SZT3BK/ref=fs_ods_fs_tab_FDAY
specs
[url]https://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/solutions/devices/kindle-fire/specifications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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and it is shipping with
Fire OS 5.3—based on Android 5.1.1, API level 22
Lollipop not Marshmellow
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Hopefully someone that owns both the 2015 & 2016 models
reports back the exterior differences, so we can know how to tell them apart.
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Lollipop not Marshmellow
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Keep in mind there is going to be an update soon after release to enable Alexa, which may update much more.
I have the new device here and looking forward to install google services/play store.
It's my first device with Fire Os so I am wondering if the tutorials for the 2015 model will apply for the new generation?
psyote said:
I have the new device here and looking forward to install google services/play store.
It's my first device with Fire Os so I am wondering if the tutorials for the 2015 model will apply for the new generation?
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the non root method for installing Google framework should work fine
on the 2016 Fire
but that is just a guess
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Keep in mind there is going to be an update soon after release to enable Alexa, which may update much more.
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Right. Any updates on its eta would be appreciated!
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the non root method for installing Google framework should work fine
on the 2016 Fire
but that is just a guess
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Got mine yesterday and was able to install the Play store using the method. I'm not yet able to posts links on here, but there's a good tutorial on YouTube called "Amazon Fire Tablet - Google Play Store without root (Fast & Easy)".
I hadn't thought I would want to install the Play Store, but the Amazon "Appstore" is missing one of the two apps I need to be able to run for work. (It used to be on Amazon, but is no longer supported.)
General impressions of the tablet: It's light enough, feels solid (but a little cheap), and has a display that is completely adequate for the price. I'm a teacher and I'm using it at school with my students and it's great for that. Good screen size.
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on the 2016 Fire
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Yes that works fine using rootjunky tool. I have the 2016 version, got play store up and running fine without any errors. Just need a root hack now
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ahac85 said:
Yes that works fine using rootjunky tool. I have the 2016 version, got play store up and running fine without any errors. Just need a root hack now
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Is the old root method not working?
I think there is root for 5.3.1.0 firmware available.
Davidavdav said:
Is the old root method not working?
I think there is root for 5.3.1.0 firmware available.
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No this version is not rootable
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I got the new Fire HD 8 6th Gen and in the developer options it has the OEM Unlocking option to unlock the bootloader.
Edit: I was able to turn it on and it stayed on, but after the update and going through setting up the tablet up, now its disabled and I cant turn it back on.
Danny1976 said:
I got the new Fire HD 8 6th Gen and in the developer options it has the OEM Unlocking option to unlock the bootloader.
Edit: I was able to turn it on and it stayed on, but after the update and going through setting up the tablet up, now its disabled and I cant turn it back on.
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Yes, the unlock option is part of stock android, but that doesn't mean it will do anything
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Interestingly, the Mediatek chip supports FM radio, does anybody know if Amazon uses it? There's nothing in the specs...
Another thing I noticed on my German language version Fire HD8 is that I kept searching for the Blutooth sttings, which are hidden under "WLAN". Is this also true for the English language versions?
Jackie78 said:
Interestingly, the Mediatek chip supports FM radio, does anybody know if Amazon uses it? There's nothing in the specs...
Another thing I noticed on my German language version Fire HD8 is that I kept searching for the Blutooth sttings, which are hidden under "WLAN". Is this also true for the English language versions?
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FM didn't work on the 2015 models, but 2016's could be different
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I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
kybunnies said:
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
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Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
Davey126 said:
Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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No worries. You have a 2nd generation Fire HD 8.9 code named "jem". I have the 7 inch mode code named "tate". Both can be unlocked and accommodate a variety of custom ROMs. However, the path is not easy and will take a significant investment on your part to read up on techniques an caveats and then successfully apply them to your device. The following threads should prove helpful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-inch-help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-development
Alternatively, you can purchase a package that will simplify the process. This is one example:
https://www.perfectlyandroid.com
The site may look childish but the product is the real deal. That said, it is likely the support staff has moved on as 2nd generation devices haven't been sold since 2012. You may not need them but you'd probably want to confirm availability before laying down any coin.
Keep in mind this device is 6+ years old with limited capabilities even with a custom ROM. A $40 phone from WalMart will easily run circles around this pup.
Good luck.
So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Okay I am showing how much I do not know about this stuff.
When I go to the app page at Amazon my device is not supported. The app is free so I have downloaded it and tried to sideload it. Again it will not install. I have found older versions of the app and some will install but they will not allow me to login and sync my info. I can login to the apps website via the device without any problems. The Wi-Fi signal is strong so that is not the problem. On my Kindle Fire purchased in July (used for digital books) the apps installs easily and I am able to log in.
Yes I know it would be easier to just put the app on the newer Kindle but the screen is smaller and some of the older adults at church enjoy seeing/reading all the different versions I pull up on the Bible. I just want to put the app on the larger screen Kindle and make it easier for everyone to see.
Im planning on getting this one since there is vay small difference between this and the other model. Im new to Fire tablets so i dont know if it fits the same things as the Fire Hd 8 regular tablet
So can it be rooted and remove its ads?
Thanks!
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Im planning on getting this one since there is vay small difference between this and the other model. Im new to Fire tablets so i dont know if it fits the same things as the Fire Hd 8 regular tablet
So can it be rooted and remove its ads?
Thanks!
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There is no way to root that. But it's still under development.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/fire-hd-8-2020-pre-production-model-t4121709