ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML) Specs, Announcements - ZenFone 2 General

ASUS ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML)​
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SPECS( Official ) :
OS -->ASUS ZenUI with Android 5.0 Lollipop
Processor --> 64-bit Intel Atom Z3560/Z3580 Quad Core Processor (Running at 1.8/2.3GHz) PowerVR Series 6 - G6430, with OpenGL 3.0 support
Memory --> LPDDR3 2GB/4GB RAM/Micro SD card support, up to 64GB
Storage --> 16GB/32GB/64GB ROM ASUS WebStorage 5GB (lifetime)
Display --> 5.5-inch, 1920 x 1080 (Full HD), 403ppi IPS display/400nits brightness/ Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
Camera --> Front: 5MP, f/2.0-aperture, wide-angle (85-degree) lens with Selfie Panorama
Rear: 13MP, f/2.0-aperture, 5-element, auto-focus lens with dual-color Real Tone flash
PixelMaster(Asus new camera features): Low Light mode / Backlight (HDR) mode / Enhanced Beautification mode / Manual mode / Zero shutter lag
Network -->LTE speed: Category 4 maximum: 150Mbit/s / DL: 50Mbit/s
4G band: FDD LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/28/29
TDD LTE: 38/39/40/41(Network support varies by country)
Battery --> 3000mAh lithium-polymer, Fast-charging technology
Sensor --> Accelerometer, proximity, ambient-light, gyroscopic, digital compass and Hall-effect sensors
Navigation -->GPS / A-GPS / GLONASS
Wireless --> 802.11ac, Wi-Fi Direct, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC
Ports -->3.5mm audio jack, dual micro-SIM, micro USB (support OTG)
Color --> Glacier Gray / Osmium Black / Glamour Red / Ceramic White / Sheer Gold
Dimensions -->152.5 x 77.2 x 10.9 ~ 3.9 mm
Weight -->170g
PRICE - $ 199 USD
Some extra features included ZENUI are :
• ZenMotion is a collection of intuitive touch gestures, each providing a new way of interacting with ZenUI, and allowing quick and easy access to frequently-used features such as One Hand mode or Do It Later.
• SnapView is a security feature that ensures privacy for apps, photos, and files. SnapView lets users easily keep their personal and business information separate.
• Trend Micro security is integrated with the ZenUI browser for the total mobile web browsing security.
• ZenUI Instant Updates is a seamless new method of keeping ZenUI apps up to date. With ZenUI Instant Updates, ASUS app developers can make updates available immediately, avoiding delays between app releases and ensuring the best experience for ZenFone 2 users.
Availability : From March 2015.
Benchmark Scores : (Will be updated soon)
Company Benchmark Scores -
mobileXPRT Scores(CPU Benchmark)
Intel Atom Z3580 2.3 GHZ = 300 compared to Krait 400 4 cores = 159
3D Mark Ice Storm Unlimited Score(GPU Benchmark)
Intel Atom Z3580 2.3 GHZ = 20790 compared to Krait 400 4 cores = 16179
Source : http://www.asus.com/Phones/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/

Canceled my plans of buying Yureka

Key features to must buy this
PRICE - $200 USD ( around 12k INR)
CAMERA - 13 MP with f2.0 and low light HDR.
Processor - 2.3 GHz Intel Quad core with high benchmark score
RAM - World first 4 GB RAM PHONE
Display - 5.5 inch 1080p IPS display
Can anyphone give this feature at this price ?

Am in dropping Purchase of Note-4 which i was planed
Like my laptop now my phone is also ASUS [emoji41]

I think 2GB ram with 1.8GHz Z3560 and 16GB inbuilt memory will cost 12k..
2.3GHz Z3580 version will cost higher..

Mr. Kaz said:
I think 2GB ram with 1.8GHz Z3560 and 16GB inbuilt memory will cost 12k..
2.3GHz Z3580 version will cost higher..
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May be ...

Yes, right 2 GB ram will price 199$…. But 4GB i think maybe 300-350
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.LeL said:
Yes, right 2 GB ram will price 199$…. But 4GB i think maybe 300-350
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If its true I will go for 4gb one

Mr. Kaz said:
I think 2GB ram with 1.8GHz Z3560 and 16GB inbuilt memory will cost 12k..
2.3GHz Z3580 version will cost higher..
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Yes 2GB RAM and 1.8 GHz will cost $199 and 4GB RAM with 2.3GHz will cost $399 ( [Price are still unsure] Still these price will be different in different regions ).

Also the price is exclusive of taxes

T3RM|NATOR said:
ASUS ZenFone 2 (ZE551ML)​
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I want that awesome wallpaper!

any release information on U.S ?

There are actually two main Zenfone 2 models, ZE551ML and ZE550ML, and many different variations within the same model.
Here are the spec sheets:
The US$199 price point is rumored to be the 720P ZE550ML with 2G/16G. 1G/8G models will only be available in limited select countries.
ZE551ML is definitely the preferred model, given the spec boosts. It includes brushed metal back cover(as oppose to matted),1080P, higher RAM range(2G or 4G), higher CPU range(z3560, z3580), quick charging and NFC.

Just waiting for reviews on basic things like call quality , mic quality , audio output , speaker performance , camera , video , GPS performance ...
I dont mint the 1.8GHz/2GB version ... 1.8GHz with that battery should be good ... I think its gonna be almost the same price as it was 1st launched i.e. 10k or so ... But let's C ...
Kudos to ASUS

Will this be available for Verizon, or just 'unlocked' for other networks like AT&T?

couldn't care less about that exaggerated 4GB RAM but the rest is something to look forward to

$200 for the 2gb version... maybe the 4 Gb version will cost less than 16K

Note that the prices are before any taxes ..And I have no idea how much it will cost after taxes here in India...

Mr. Kaz said:
Note that the prices are before any taxes ..And I have no idea how much it will cost after taxes here in India...
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Is there not a set tax in India like there is in the US?
On another note, looks like bands 2 and 4 are Verizon networks, and this phone says it is supported there - but not sure if that means it will work with Verizon or not. Want to get rid of my S4, just wondering if I should jump on an LG G3 or wait for this.
But it is not on LTE 13, which is also Verizon and I guess their main? Fail. Oh well.

ASUS Poland confirmed that ZE551ML 2GB RAM, 16GB ROM will cost $199.

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[Indian Users] HTC One - General Discussions

HTC ONE Indian Thread!!​
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​SPEC :
GENERAL
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 1800 / 2600
LTE 1900 - for Sprint
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2013, February
Status Available. Released 2013, March
BODY
Dimensions 137.4 x 68.2 x 9.3 mm (5.41 x 2.69 x 0.37 in)
Weight 143 g (5.04 oz)
DISPLAY Type Super LCD3 capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 4.7 inches (~469 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 2
- HTC Sense UI v5
SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers, built-in amplifiers
3.5mm jack Yes
- Beats Audio sound enhancement
MEMORY
Card slot No
Internal 32/64 GB, 2 GB RAM
DATA
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSPA+; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.0 with A2DP
NFC Yes (Market dependent)
Infrared port Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0 (MHL)
CAMERA
Primary 4 MP, 2688 x 1520 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features 1/3'' sensor size, 2µm pixel size, simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, face and smile detection, optical
image stabilization
Video Yes, [email protected], [email protected], HDR, stereo sound rec., video stabilization, check quality
Secondary Yes, 2.1 MP, [email protected], HDR
FEATURES
OS Android OS, v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean), upgradable to v4.3 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Qualcomm APQ8064T Snapdragon 600
CPU Quad-core 1.7 GHz Krait 300
GPU Adreno 320
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Radio Stereo FM radio with RDS
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, Silver, Red, Blue
- SNS integration
- Dropbox (25 GB storage)
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- DivX/XviD/MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail, YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk
- Organizer
- Document viewer/editor
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input
BATTERY
Non-removable Li-Po 2300 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 500 h (2G) / Up to 480 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 27 h (2G) / Up to 18 h (3G)
MISC
SAR US 1.26 W/kg (head) 0.69 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.86 W/kg (head) 0.36 W/kg (body)
TESTS
Display Contrast ratio: 1541:1 (nominal) / 2.504:1 (sunlight)
Loudspeaker Voice 69dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 75dB
Audio quality Noise -92.4dB / Crosstalk -92.4dB
Battery life Endurance rating 48h
Source : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-5313.php​
according to the htc website you get Get 25 GB of Dropbox space free for two years*
With Dropbox integrated into HTC Sense, you can automatically save all your photos and videos to Dropbox – and access and share all your pictures directly from the Gallery. Dropbox also makes it easy to edit and share files while you are on the go, so you never have to email yourself a document again. To discover all that Dropbox can do, sign-up or log-in to Dropbox on your HTC phone and receive 25 GB of Dropbox space free for two years.
*Offer only available on HTC One series. Offer not available in China.
djq said:
according to the htc website you get Get 25 GB of Dropbox space free for two years*
With Dropbox integrated into HTC Sense, you can automatically save all your photos and videos to Dropbox – and access and share all your pictures directly from the Gallery. Dropbox also makes it easy to edit and share files while you are on the go, so you never have to email yourself a document again. To discover all that Dropbox can do, sign-up or log-in to Dropbox on your HTC phone and receive 25 GB of Dropbox space free for two years.
*Offer only available on HTC One series. Offer not available in China.
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yup.. but all htc devices??
EDIT : yup.. for all HTC devices.. now I will have 50GB of storage..
Finally sensible phone in India, Will buy after my s & s2 breakdown at any point in future.
At
Much cheaper than launch price.
Nice and amazing phone, but the price is too high..
prudhivisekhar said:
Nice and amazing phone, but the price is too high..
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what is the price?
Re: HTC One Indian buyers only
Anyone know if the 64gb version will be available in india?
Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
I think only the 64gb model will come to india like the htc one x+..And it will be priced more than 40k+ ..Butterfly is selling for 46k :/
Re: HTC One Indian buyers only
ethan3686 said:
I think only the 64gb model will come to india like the htc one x+..And it will be priced more than 40k+ ..Butterfly is selling for 46k :/
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I hav3 my doubts on that though.. 64 gb was for the one x plus.. Not for the one x.. So i have my doubts whether the 64 gb one will be available only for US..:/.. And 64 gb one plus will only be available later this year..
Hope there would be a 64gb for india.. I really do hope..
As prices are considered, indian htc stores have a high pricing marketing which sucks... And trust me there are htc stores in india which dont even know if a one x plus exists..(no kidding..personal experience). whereas sony amd samsung indian stores arent so pricey as compared to their htc counterparts in india
Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
This looks great... I'll still wait and see what the S4 is like.
Looks fantastic
Storage isnt an issue for me.
The battery life couldve been better.. lets see how it performs in real life.
On paper, this could be the perfect device for me.
HTC didnt price the Butterfly too well. Wonder what this'll cost.
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I am getting one as soon as it is launched...should be around 40k...lets hope its cheaper than that...
HTC One Indian buyers only
IllUMINATUz said:
yup.. but all htc devices??
EDIT : yup.. for all HTC devices.. now I will have 50GB of storage..
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When you already have a 25gb free storage on db, you can't get another 25gb.
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ethan3686 said:
I think only the 64gb model will come to india like the htc one x+..And it will be priced more than 40k+ ..Butterfly is selling for 46k :/
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Currently Clove.co.uk is taking preorders for £425. Check this http://www.clove.co.uk/htc-one
Same was happened when one x was released. I am sure 32gb version will be priced for <40k
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IllUMINATUz said:
yup.. but all htc devices??
EDIT : yup.. for all HTC devices.. now I will have 50GB of storage..
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Free 25GB of Dropbox is for Sense 4 and Sense 4+ promotional activities. Sense 5 is not in the list yet. Spend some money for extra storage or make sure your loved ones join dropbox with your invitation mail and grab 500MB for each.
Chillz88 said:
I hav3 my doubts on that though.. 64 gb was for the one x plus.. Not for the one x.. So i have my doubts whether the 64 gb one will be available only for US..:/.. And 64 gb one plus will only be available later this year..
Hope there would be a 64gb for india.. I really do hope..
As prices are considered, indian htc stores have a high pricing marketing which sucks... And trust me there are htc stores in india which dont even know if a one x plus exists..(no kidding..personal experience). whereas sony amd samsung indian stores arent so pricey as compared to their htc counterparts in india
Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
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The 64 gb variant will definetly be for asian markets including INDIA..because we dont have carrier locked phones here..in the US carriers want people to get lower storage so they can sell their cloud storage.
Re: HTC One Indian buyers only
And people.. don't worry.. high prices.. there will always be takers.. they know the market better than us..
And I am not paying extra for dropbox.. I'm already paing a large sum... So I will expect some goodies...
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HTC One Indian buyers only
IllUMINATUz said:
there will always be takers.. they know the market better than us..
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Takers?
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Re: HTC One Indian buyers only
shree.cse said:
Takers?
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Rich people over middleclass...
I'm middleclass...
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Got the butterfly for 43K last week.. will sell it soon (estimated at INR35K) and will go back to using my old One X till the One arrives rofit:
HTC One Indian buyers only
IllUMINATUz said:
Rich people over middleclass...
I'm middleclass...
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+1
But I'm gonna buy 64gb version irrespective of the price.
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[SPECS] Moto G Specifications - Members Thoughts

Hey all
Here is a place to discuss the Moto G (2014) specifications, thoughts?
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD, 720 x 1280 pixels, 5.0 inches (~294 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8226 Snapdragon 400
CPU - Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU - Adreno 305
RAM - 1GB
Memory - 8/16GB, microSD, up to 32 GB
Camera - 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash. Video: [email protected], stereo sound rec., HDR
Secondary Camera - 2 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP, LE
Battery - 2070 mAh
Dimensions - 141.5 x 70.7 x 11 mm
Weight - 149 g
Source: gsmarena
I don't understand why this is what moto calls an upgrade. The display is bigger, but the pixel density is lower too, the camera is bumped to 8mp, but everything that really counts, such as the CPU, ram, and the GPU is the same. Even the battery is the same size.....c'mon moto, step it up.
I wish it had a 4.5 - 4.7" screen with an upgrade to the CPU and/or RAM and/or GPU. But I like that it has microSD, FM and front-facing speakers; I don't care about 4G at all. I'm not too concerned about battery life, since anything will be an improvement from the old Sensation that I'm replacing.
Enzopreme said:
I don't understand why this is what moto calls an upgrade. The display is bigger, but the pixel density is lower too, the camera is bumped to 8mp, but everything that really counts, such as the CPU, ram, and the GPU is the same. Even the battery is the same size.....c'mon moto, step it up.
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Better cam
Bigger screen
Expandable storage
Extra speaker
Downgrage - ppi
+4 -1 =3
Hence upgrade
Enzopreme said:
I don't understand why this is what moto calls an upgrade. The display is bigger, but the pixel density is lower too, the camera is bumped to 8mp, but everything that really counts, such as the CPU, ram, and the GPU is the same. Even the battery is the same size.....c'mon moto, step it up.
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Maybe that's why they didn't changed the name. It is essentially the same phone.
Here in Brazil there are only 2 models being sold
8GB, dual sim
16GB, dual sim, DTV
Looks like the model name here is XT-1069 (online stores here are using this code to both models, needs to check)
doctor_droid said:
Better cam
Bigger screen
Expandable storage
Extra speaker
Downgrage - ppi
+4 -1 =3
Hence upgrade
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I dunno where you got better camera from, just cause it has more mp doesn't make it better. I've seen 8mp cameras blow 13mp cameras out the water. And again, what good is a bigger screen if it isn't as sharp, not saying it's not sharp, but it's yet to be seen. Don't get me wrong, I'm buying it, and I have a first gen now, I just think they could've done better. 2gb of ram is the move they should've made, but who am I, I'm just a consumer. Also, extra, front facing speakers are awesome, if they sound good, which is lso yet to be heard. I'm a Verizon ( xt1028 ) user, which is locked down tighter than Ft. Knox. If the boot loader on the gen 2 can be unlocked and the device can be rooted, I'll be ecstatic.
doctor_droid said:
Better cam
Bigger screen
Expandable storage
Extra speaker
Downgrage - ppi
+4 -1 =3
Hence upgrade
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Well said
I bought mine on Flipkart and waiting to hold it.Never played with kitkat before or moto g,i don't wana complaint anything.
henricos said:
Maybe that's why they didn't changed the name. It is essentially the same phone.
Here in Brazil there are only 2 models being sold
8GB, dual sim
16GB, dual sim, DTV
Looks like the model name here is XT-1069 (online stores here are using this code to both models, needs to check)
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Just confirmed models in Brazil:
XT 1068 => 8GB, dual sim,
XT 1069 => 16GB, dual sim, DTV, 1 extra colored back case
Enzopreme said:
I dunno where you got better camera from, just cause it has more mp doesn't make it better. I've seen 8mp cameras blow 13mp cameras out the water. And again, what good is a bigger screen if it isn't as sharp, not saying it's not sharp, but it's yet to be seen. Don't get me wrong, I'm buying it, and I have a first gen now, I just think they could've done better. 2gb of ram is the move they should've made, but who am I, I'm just a consumer. Also, extra, front facing speakers are awesome, if they sound good, which is lso yet to be heard. I'm a Verizon ( xt1028 ) user, which is locked down tighter than Ft. Knox. If the boot loader on the gen 2 can be unlocked and the device can be rooted, I'll be ecstatic.
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Well, for the money you pay it's a quite solid upgrade
The Zel said:
Well, for the money you pay it's a quite solid upgrade
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For the money paid the phone is great. I'm not putting the device down, like I said, I own one myself and will be buying a new one. All I'm saying is that IMO they concentrated on the wrong things. Although the display upgrade is a beautiful thing, they definitely should've upgraded the ram. A CPU upgrade would've been nice, but certainly not that important as the Qualcomm 400 is a great SoC.
Enzopreme said:
For the money paid the phone is great. I'm not putting the device down, like I said, I own one myself and will be buying a new one. All I'm saying is that IMO they concentrated on the wrong things. Although the display upgrade is a beautiful thing, they definitely should've upgraded the ram. A CPU upgrade would've been nice, but certainly not that important as the Qualcomm 400 is a great SoC.
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Hold on, let's also not forget that they upgraded the Wifi chip too. It now supports AC, and it's dual band instead of single band. I feel like that's pretty big.
thebeastglasser said:
Hold on, let's also not forget that they upgraded the Wifi chip too. It now supports AC, and it's dual band instead of single band. I feel like that's pretty big.
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Yes it is. I forgot about that. That's huge.
Is the dual sim model more expensive than the single sim model ?
thebeastglasser said:
Hold on, let's also not forget that they upgraded the Wifi chip too. It now supports AC, and it's dual band instead of single band. I feel like that's pretty big.
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It was initially reported to be dual band, I remember clearly reading that, but my XT1068 is single band, and now the specs on the Motorola website say single band.
Unless anyone knows different, I think its just 802.11 b/g/n
btb55 said:
It was initially reported to be dual band, I remember clearly reading that, but my XT1068 is single band, and now the specs on the Motorola website say single band.
Unless anyone knows different, I think its just 802.11 b/g/n
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Damnnnn..... anyone know if they're releasing a Verizon prepaid version again? I'm starting to think that if they were they would've already done so.
Don't forget that Moto G 2014 has Gyroscope, Moto G (2013) has not.
Moto G or Moto G2?
I thinking about buying a Moto G but im very undecided between the two version
I had a very bad experience with a 5' screen.
Can someone point me if it is worth the new version against the old one?
PS: I thinking in the dual sim version 16gb either way.
digitaldrag0n said:
I thinking about buying a Moto G but im very undecided between the two version
I had a very bad experience with a 5' screen.
Can someone point me if it is worth the new version against the old one?
PS: I thinking in the dual sim version 16gb either way.
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Sorry about going off topic, but I'd love to hear about this bad 5" screen experience.

[SPECS] HTC One (M9) Specifications

Hey all
Here are more up to date listings of the specifications for the HTC M9, they are still TBC, but should be more helpful than the existing OP (now post #2). I'll duplicate this post as the OP as it's more informative:good:
I'll update with more as we get information.
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Specifications:
Display - Super LCD3, 5.0 inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU - Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU - Adreno 430
RAM - 3 GB
Memory - 32/64 GB
Camera - 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash
Secondary Camera - 4 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot, Bluetooth V4.1
Battery - 2840 mAh
Dimensions - 144.3 x 69.4 x 9.6 mm
Weight - 158 g
Color Availability - Gunmetal Gray, Glacial Silver, Amber Gold​
Source gsmarena
HTC M9 / HTC Hima specs
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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I could care less about the cpu processor at this point. it only can get so good with phones.. The cpu it have now is plenty fine . The camera needs updated, and work on the boom sound some more.
I could care less about a 4k screen
A phone does not need a 64gb processor
so:
-better camaera
-improve boom
-Improve screen
-larger screen
- it will be sweet if they could make the buttons on the side touch
that are just rumored specs, which aren't official yet so yea i assume the real specs will be different!
MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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Who are you. HTC know what they are doing. Most people buy phones every two years, so they are catering to the people with m7s
MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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Who are you. HTC know what they are doing. Most people buy phones every two years, so they are catering to the people with m7s
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Most people do NOT buy every 2 years. More like every year , a very small percentage do the every 2 year thing
Show me your source.
MsEvyLynch said:
The HTC M9 specs rumored leaked. Same specs as droid turbo. Those specs will be outdated by the time it comes out. They need to step up their game with Snapdragon 810, 16 ultrapixel cam 8mp front cam. 4k screen if possible prob not though. 64 bit processor, 3 gig ram 3gh 30% louder boomsound. I even emailed HTC about it today. I feel they should listen to people about what they need in a phone.
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Wow are you requesting a spaceship?
1- nothing is called M9 it's HIMA now.
2- No 4K screens yet.
3- bigger speakers bigger camera means way thicker phone.
4- 8MP on the front is #fail. You need something like Ultrapixel so image quality will be the same in sunlight and dark conditions. Even our 5MP front camera sucks in low light.
cpugeeker said:
show me yours
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http://mobilefuture.org/resources/international-comparisons-the-handset-replacement-cycle-2/
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Show me your source.
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Art2Fly said:
http://mobilefuture.org/resources/international-comparisons-the-handset-replacement-cycle-2/
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So you did a quick google search to find the first phoney website that reported user upgrade every 2 years. let alone, the article is dated JUNE 2011.. Failed!!! On so many levels
users now are updating every year, that is why tmobile, Verizon,sprint and ATT offers early upgrading. if it was not a niche for it companies would not be offering it
People are upgrading phones when ever they see one they like which is 6 months to 1 year
try again:silly:
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show me yours
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Here's my sources http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...2-inch-qhd-display-and-snapdragon-805-inbound
The Sony Z4 is supposed to be Snapdragon 810 so HTC should be doing 64bit soon since their mid-range is already 64bit.
HTC One M8
I really hope we are not forced to go above 5" if we want a flagship HTC phone.
Fingerss crossed for:
5" 1080p or QHD
8mp+ ultra pixel
805 sOC
2GB or 3GB ram
32GB minimum storage with SD support
minimum bezel (remove the HTC logo part)
Dual speakers
something like
5.2" would be perfect.
HTC One M8
Bring on HTC 6 inch GPE phone. In 2014 bigger is better
md1008 said:
Bring on HTC 6 inch GPE phone. In 2014 bigger is better
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But this will come out 2015. Bigger is better would be so last year
Honestly I don't see trend disappearing any time soon. Go figure a phablet in 2011-2012 with the original note was 5.3 now that is considered normal lol
I need
At least a 5.5 with thin bezels like LG.. (qhd wont really matter, apps are not optimized)
16mp/5mp
805/810
3GB RAM
Louder Boom Sound Speakers
Bigger Battery
32Gb/64Gb
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Most people do NOT buy every 2 years. More like every year , a very small percentage do the every 2 year thing
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Do you only know people who are all like us? My mom is using a Note 2, one brother an S4, and my other brother a Note 3. One of my buddies is still using an One M7 . Know a few other people who are using older phones than those too.
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Most people do NOT buy every 2 years. More like every year , a very small percentage do the every 2 year thing
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No way, this might be the case in the US, Europe, Japan and smaller richer Asian countries but definitely not the majority of the people. It's not affordable for them which is precisely why Google wanted to change their tactics and bring out affordable devices that runs latest Android but at a cheaper price like the Moto G(?) and the Nexus devices(Even though it's not widely available). It's common fact that majority of the users of Android still use old Android versions(Honeycomb, Gingerbread, ICS). This is definitely true where I'm at as well, I see a lot of people with early Android devices, most of them walk with S3s, few people have the S4, S5, HTC One M8/M7 or Sony Xperia Z, Z2 haven't even seen anyone with a Z3.
It's not affordable for the majority of people on this planet and statistics like that should include everyone not just those from wealthy 1st world countries where buying a phone every 6months is the fashionable thing to do.
That being said, this entire topic shouldn't even be here, it should be in the OFF-Topic or general section(Not related to a specific device forum). So I just made my post before the close.

ELEPHONE P9000 Helio X20 MTK6797 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core 5.5 Inch IPS OGS FHD Screen

If you’ve been feeling like your octa-core CPU hasn’t been keeping up with your standards, you’ll be glad to hear that MediaTek has you covered. Back in May we saw MediaTek announce their upcoming deca-core Helio X20 processor. A recent leak has revealed what may be the first device to carry the computing-monster SoC, the Elephone P9000.
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MediaTek Helio X20, the processor with ten cores, in its architecture is going to have additional two ARM Cortex A72 cores to speed of 2.5 GHz that should bring improvement in the performance of the Cortex A57 that is used by the manufacturers of the eight core CPUs.
The interesting thing here is that the other eight cores are going to be ARM Cortex A53, four of which with a speed of 2.0 GHz and the other four with a speed of 1.4 GHz and will be used for doing the easy part because they have reduced power usage. Of course it is not really clear why use eight, when you have two super power cores, but from MediaTek say that this is going to be the most balanced processor on the market, in terms of usage and performances.
Helio X20 will continue to be made of transistors with a size of 28 mm, although, according to ARM, Cortex A72 should be made with a size of 16 NM to achieve the best performances.
Other rumored specs of the Elephone P9000 include a 5.5-inch display, 4GB RAM, 32Gb storage, 20.7MP camera, 8MP front shooter, dual-SIM compatibility with 4G functionality and a 3,100mAh battery,making it a competitive high-end design.. Given that MediaTek has mentioned that the MT6797 will be sampling to manufacturers in the latter half of 2015, an October launch window seems optimistic.
The P9000 could cost around $500 upon release and is expected to launch in various regions on October 20th. What do you think about this rumor?
ELEPHONE P9000 Helio X20
Highlights of ELEPHONE P9000 Helio X20
- 5.5 Inch Screen, 1920*1080 Pixel
- Helio X20 MTK6797 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
- 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM
- 21 MP Back Camera + 8 MP Front Camera
- Android 5.1 System
ELEPHONE P9000 Lite
Highlights of ELEPHONE P9000 Lite
- 5.5 Inch Screen, 1920*1080 Pixel
- MTK6755 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core
- 4GB RAM + 16GB ROM
- 21 MP Back Camera + 8 MP Front Camera
- Android 5.1 System
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
ELEPHONE P9000C
Highlight of ELEPHONE P9000C
- 5.5 Inch Screen, 1920*1080 Pixel
- MTK6755 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core
- 2GB RAM + 16GB ROM
- 13 MP Back Camera + 5 MP Front Camera
- Android 5.1 System
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
Great device, How about battery life and screen on time?
Elephone P9000
Krystyna said:
Great device, How about battery life and screen on time?
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Hi friend, battery life and screen on time is not certain now, Stay tuned.
Elephone P9000 Real Photos:
If anyone has more information about elephone p9000 ?
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If anyone has more information about elephone p9000 ?
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Here: http://www.pompmall.com/elephone-p9000.html
ELEPHONE P9000 Helio X20
Highlights of ELEPHONE P9000 Helio X20
- 5.5 Inch Screen, 1920*1080 Pixel
- Helio X20 MTK6797 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
- 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM
- 21 MP Back Camera + 8 MP Front Camera
- Android 5.1 System
ELEPHONE P9000 Lite
Highlights of ELEPHONE P9000 Lite
- 5.5 Inch Screen, 1920*1080 Pixel
- MTK6755 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core
- 4GB RAM + 16GB ROM
- 21 MP Back Camera + 8 MP Front Camera
- Android 5.1 System
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
ELEPHONE P9000C
Highlight of ELEPHONE P9000C
- 5.5 Inch Screen, 1920*1080 Pixel
- MTK6755 2.0GHz 64bit Deca Core
- 2GB RAM + 16GB ROM
- 13 MP Back Camera + 5 MP Front Camera
- Android 5.1 System
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
P9000 Wallpaper
P9000 Update:
Elephone P9000 configurated with side-mounted fingerprint and bezel-less will widen network range. This exquisite phone can be used in the USA.
Which p9000 has the largest battery
bjbirch said:
Which p9000 has the largest battery
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Hi, elephone p9000 has three version which are elephone p9000c, elephone p9000 lite and elephone p9000. The three version are all 3000mAh battery. Elephone p9000 version is the best configuration version.
P9000 hands-on preview video
Elephone P9000, the most anticipated bezel-less smartphone.
Os: Android 6.0 Marshmallow
CPU:Helio P10 (MT6755) Octa-Core
Display:5.5“ FHD
RAM: 4GB
Camera:21MP Sony IMX230
There will be 3 versions: P9000 / P9000 lite / P9000C
See more from this vedio:
According to elephone official news, elephone p9000 series will update to Android 6.0.
More info: http://www.elephone.hk/readNews/8189.html
Somewhat not truthful. Elephone website lists camera as only 13mp, not 21mp.
Have you been succesfull with the Ele Code? I entered it at gearbest and the price was 260$ instead 219$. Hope the support can solve this.
Do you have any idea what charger should I order with the phone? the first batch is only phone + usb-C cable

One plus one vs one plus 2 what do you think who is real flagship killer

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ONE PLUS ONE:
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm (6.02 x 2.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight 162 g (5.71 oz)
SIM Micro-SIM
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~71.9% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 12 (after SW update)
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat), upgradable to v5.0.2 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected],
HDR, stereo sound rec., check quality
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, dual mono speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC Yes
Radio No
USB microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- ANT+ support
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3100 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Silk White, Sandstone Black
SAR US 0.62 W/kg (head) 0.75 W/kg (body)
Price group 5/10
TESTS Performance Basemark OS II: 1196 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 1230
Basemark X: 13129
Display Contrast ratio: 799 (nominal), 1.961 (sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 74dB / Noise 73dB / Ring 80dB
Audio quality Noise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -94.3dB
ONE PLUS TWO
GSM/HSPA/LTE
BODY Dimensions 151.8 x 74.9 x 9.9 mm (5.98 x 2.95 x 0.39 in)
Weight 175 g (6.17 oz)
SIM Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
- Fingerprint sensor
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 5.5 inches (~73.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1080 x 1920 pixels (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 4
- Oxygen UI
PLATFORM OS Android OS, v5.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU Quad-core Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU Adreno 430
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16 GB, 3 GB RAM
64 GB, 4 GB RAM
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, optical image stabilization, laser autofocus,
dual-LED flash
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected]
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
COMMS WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Radio To be confirmed
USB microUSB v2.0, Type-C reversible connector
FEATURES Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Java No
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- DivX/Xvid/MP4/H.265 player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Document viewer
- Photo/video editor
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3300 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC Colors Sandstone Black
SAR EU 0.43 W/kg
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Great specs and price, but lack of NFC and quick charge support doesnt make this device any flagship killer
Well, moto x style or pure is an better otion for a flagship killer
It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.
droidnext said:
It got minor improvement over op1 nothing special.
-sd810: a lot of negative things, so sd801 still good.
-4gb ram: its nice to have but I always got 700mb free.
-finger scan: again its nice, but I always swipe to unlock.. much quicker.
-USB type c: reversible good but still slow USB 2.0
-Thicker and heavier.
-No NFC, quick charge, wireless charge, no OTG.
-No USF 2.0 still using eMMC as op1.
I think its a good phone for first time buyer.
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Yes i don't think 1+2 is real flagship killer
What this mean IF YOU DON'T HAVE
NO OTG
NO FAST CHARGE
NO NFC
COPY CAT DESIGN OF SAMSUNG PHONES LIKE GALAXY XYZ SERIES EVEN OPO IS BETTER IN DESIGN THAN OPT
NO QHD SCREEN
MONO SPEAKERS
NO REMARKABLE CAMERA
IT WILL NOT EVEN MAINTAIN ITS CROWN OF FLAGSHIP KILLER FOR 2015 (THEY SAID ITS FK 2016)
IF THEY WILL ADD ABOVE FEATURES IT WILL BE REAL FLAGSHIP KILLER
BUT ANY WAY THROUGH XDA DEVELOPERS I THINK WE WILL GET SOME BENEFIT TO OPO
WHEN THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT OF OPT
MAINLY KERNEL VERSION I. E 3.10
HURREY
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No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.
Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.
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Why isn't both an option? It's a legitimate answer.
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both could be an option, but both is not an option at the same time.
What I mean to say is that, the OnePlus One itself is a flagship killer for 2014. True. For 2015 it does hold up on its own (though you have devices such as LG G3, the OPPO Find 7, and I think xiaomi mi note, if you can get it without the bloated price)
But if you take 2015 phones as a basis, the OnePlus Two isn't a flagship killer, because either it never was, or got dethroned by Motorola Moto X Style.
im more concerned about their refusal to scrap the completely ridiculous invite system, after the amount of grief they got last time and the amount of people put off from buying the phone as they were not prepared to wait months they've gone and done it again and come out with nonsense like plenty more invites, well they weren't bankng of getting over 2 million requests so they'll never be able to accommodate all those people, ok some might be multiple email signups but i estimate at least 65% are genuine,
My OPO still running perfectly but at this stage i need a new phone, id love an S6 Edge but poor battery life and ridiculous price tag has put me off, but certainly i wont be waiting months for a 1 + 2 invite so ill be searching elsewhere, maybe Huawei or something.
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No flagship killer... not even in the discussion.
In fact, their slogan, "Never Settle," should be taken down/ replaced.
Still a great value, but missing the mark in many ways. I think they lost their way with the fingerprint scanner. To keep the price low, that took away from other more desirable/ useful features (NFC, Wireless Charging, QHD, higher pxl density camera, significant battery life).
This might be built more for the international market more than the US market. The Moto X Style/pure looks like the better choice for the US market.
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You're right, not a flagship killer at all... Which makes sense considering it's half the price or less than the premium flagships out there. Just a good buzz word.
As for the Moto phones being good for the US market: I decided on the OPO over the previous Moto/Nexus 6 phones because of build quality problems. I know the OPO had its own issues, but I'd probably trust more in the early releases of the OP2 than these new Motos.
As for right now, I just replaced the LCD and housing on my OPO. I'm in no rush for the OP2, but wouldn't be against it if my invite gets sent out in the next couple months.
Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1+1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1+2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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Neither ever was a flagship killer lol. These devices are for low budget people. 1 1 always had crappy screen. That yellowish urine at the bottom was hardware issue. While the 1 2 is biggest joke of the year. Whenever I see it get compared to real flagship devies I keep laughing.
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Low budget peoples means
My opo is 6 month old no problem at all in software or hardware
Peoples who are complaining yellow tint and touch issues got faulty handsets
PEOPLES WITH OPO=LOW BUDGET PEOPLES
Its not true its because of thinking
YES IT IS TRUE THAT QUALITY OF HARDWARE IS NOT TOPNOTCH LIKE ON SONY/SAMSUNG BUT ITS NOT SO LOW QUALITY
but it has software quality is topnotch
and though we purchased most Premium devices like sgs6 iphone they don't have removable battery its going to die in few years about 5-6
So you have to change your device
so why to pay 50% more bucks when OPO will reach its limits like Premium devices
Open development vs close development software.
I jumped the gun and ordered a oneplus 2. After using it for a few weeks, I went back to my oneplus one. So much better. On the oneplus oneone, software is more stable and smoother, battery life is MUCH better, vibration motor is better, speaker is louder, phone is lighter, edges of phone aren't slippery, phone is much more comfortable to hold, back is flatter so doesn't wobble around on tables when typing, stereo speakers, no useless fingerprint scanner, faster charging, no notification switch that toggles in your pocket. The oneplus one really is the 2015 flagship killer it was advertised to be, but boy does the 2 disappoint.
Well I got a OP2 invite yesterday..
And after doing my normal xda thread reading....
I opted to buy the 64gb OPO and let the OP2 invite expire...
Of course my 64gb bamboo moto x Pure had a small part in my decision
I still think oneplus one really a value proposition . First is its price and second is its features. Although OPT is good enough to beat OPO but later is not a flagship killer mainly because OPT does not have NFC plus some software related issues , which OP need to rectify to be called as flagship killer.
Oneplus one is a beautiful device with CM ....myself used Nexus 4 ,5 for 4 years...bought OPO 1 month back...
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Oneplus One FTW
Op2, since its the latest and worth the price but opo was the real flagship killer before.
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