UPDATE 8/1 2015
UNBOXING video:
REVIEW video:
3D GAMING, HDMI & WIRELESS DISPLAY TEST
Tips:
- To enter BIOS, connect keyboard via OTG, at boot start press ESC + CAPSLOCK
- To access advanced startup options in Windows 8 or 8.1, hold VOL down plus POWER
- Download latest display drivers here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24345
(especially do this update, if you have problems to wake the tablet from sleep sometimes, should fix it)
PiPO W2F Disassembly Pictures here
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6108053155867182961
Drivers:
http://pipo.cn/En/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&id=360&type=2
Want to use OTG and Charge it at the same time?
Then you need one of these
http://aliexpress.com/item/Universa...inkpad-8-X98-M80ta-WT-8-Miix2/2038609573.html
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Hey
What do you guys think about the PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1? I saw it to a nice price at Gearbest. It comes with 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM that seems to be okay for a 8 inch tablet. It also has support for HDMI and OTG which I find very important for a tablet.
Due to Chinese manufacturers, the market of mobile electronic devices overflowed by cheap Windows 8 tablets. Devices of well-known brands cannot compete with the same quality, but lower prices of Chinese products. The famous Hong Kong brand PiPO presented 8-inch Windows tablet PiPO W2F.
The 5MP camera lens and stereo speaker’s grilles are located on the back cover. The Start button and volume lever are on the long side. On the shorter fringe located interface connectors: 3.5 mm audio, microUSB / OTG, miniHDMI, power jack, the microphone hole, slot for TF card and On button.
The screen also impressive. It is based on IPS matrix with resolution 1280x800px. Display supports ten-finger multitouch and reproduces pictures, videos and dynamic games with reasonable quality.
The basis of W2’s hardware is the quad-core Intel Atom Z3735F, made on 22 nm technology process. It clocked at 1.8 GHz and appropriate to Windows.
Video System integrated into processor’s cores and supports high-quality graphics in mid-class games. The RAM reaches 2GB. The tablet can simultaneously perform multiple tasks due to good balance of a hardware. With PiPO W2F users can listen a music, read e-books, work with documents and communicate in chats. The tablet can support all online games, and many other ones, except games, requiring a strong hardware and discrete graphic card.
The internal SSD storage capacity is 32 GB. Volume of memory can be increased by using the TF card. OTG interface allows you to connect a mouse, keyboard, external hard drive and other devices to the tablet. PiPO W2F can be charged from a computer or laptop via USB.
Wide range of Windows 8.1 applications and Office 365 with an annual subscription will make a work with PiPO W2F more comfortable and efficient.
PiPO W2F has FM-receiver, and all necessary sensors. The tablet can play high quality music and video.
With HDMI interface, the tablet turns to a video player by connecting it to a TV or home theater. Wireless technologies are implemented in the tablet via Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g / n and Bluetooth modules. The device has no GPS, because it is a feature of W line of PiPO gadgets.
The battery capacity of 4500 mAh ensures continuous operation of the device up to 9 hours in active mode, or two days in standby mode.
PiPO W2F – the device with good performance, which is runs on the latest Windows 8.1 system with an annual subscription to Office 365. It seems to be a best buy at the market.
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Teclast X80h is the answer. Drop all the other chinese brands apart from Teclast. In Russia Teclast is by far the most popular one. Imagine why.
Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.
s7yler said:
Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.
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Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)
penxo said:
Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)
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I have not found a case for it sorry. I like this PiPO very much and happy with it, but the Voyo is also good (but higher priced).
To be honest, the camera is nothing special, only ok for a little Skype etc. don't expect too much from cameras in tablets.
I would not wait for the Cherry Trail, because there will always come something new, and then you can wait forever.
I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.
penxo said:
I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.
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Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.
yes I know by the way I've just found that Chuwi is going to release his Chuwi Vi8 Super Edition, it comes with HDMI and dual boot with android 4.4.4....
Thanks for your reply!
s7yler said:
Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.
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Actually I have the PIPO W2 with the USB 3.0. Despite the driver stating it is an USB3.0 I had tested with several USB 3 thumbdrive,hard disk and all but none of them work at USB 3 speed. .__." bummer~
I have this and teclast, prefer pipo
zorroloko said:
I have this and teclast, prefer pipo
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happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this
gxthelord said:
happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this
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I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post
x1rocket said:
I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post
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Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^
gxthelord said:
Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^
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will do hopefully its not stolen or defected like I have heard in other forums
hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??
mokajengy said:
hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??
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what drivers? do you mean where to buy it?
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
Strange portrait mode forced onto secondary display
Anybody with the W2F experiencing problems with the secondary display being forced into portrait mode when connecting via HDMI? Not sure if it is a problem with windows or the tab (I have an Asus T100 as well and have never had this happen before).
Thanks a lot for those review videos, they really helped me make up my mind :good::good:
mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Drivers pipo. cn/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&type=2&id=360
2.q: USB
mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Most of the drivers will be downloaded automatically from Windows Update, or are included in Windows.
You charge it from the USB port, it is fast enough even if you use it.
Related
So Geekbuying.com has released the FIRST quad core hdmi stick. It's based on the Freescale i.mx6q soc.
They are calling it the Zealz GK802. It's available now for $99 with free shipping. They've got 500 units.(actually 499 now heh)
Grab it here:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Unii-GK802-Fresscale-i-MX6-Quad-Dure-Cortex-A9-DDR3-1GB-RAM-8GB-ROM-TV-Box-Dongle----Black-312807.html
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Specs:
1.2 Ghz i.mx6q Quad Core SOC(running at 996 Mhz)
GC2000 Vivante Quad Core GPU
1GB RAM
8GB internal storage
Wifi b/g/n(up to 150Mbps)
Bluetooth
usb 2.0 Host port(full size)
Micro-usb port for power
Micro sd slot for external storage.
male HDMI 1.4 port
hidden reset button
Charger/micro usb cable
HDMI extension cable
Android 4.0.4
I've been testing a beta hardware GK802 for a couple of weeks now and have known about it for a few months.
Over at armtvtech we've worked with geekbuying to fix some firmware/hardware bugs and now it's a pretty stable device.
It's also my favorite Android TV stick to date. I just ordered one of the production models today.
Unlike the rockchip based sticks this one actually switches resolutions properly.
I haven't had any wifi signal drops, or lowered speed while using this stick.
Video playback is great and in sync. I've actually used BS Player and Dice Player to play 2 1080p mkv's at the same time with no apparent frame drops or issues.
Netflix works like a charm.
The internal NAND is actually a micro sd card that can be removed if you open the unit up. I've made several backups of my micro sd using dd in ubuntu. I've also replaced my micro sd with a larger and faster 16GB UHS-I and it was much more responsive. I used Gparted to increase the size of my partitions.
The i.mx6q actually supports linux. Freescale has builds that can run x11 w/ hardware acceleration. They also support hardware acceleration with Gstreamer for videos. It's just a matter of getting the u-boot on the internal micro-sd setup, and building a kernel that supports the built in wifi.
I've actually been working on getting ubuntu running properly on my GK802. I have it booting, but I need my usb to 3.3v serial adapter to arrive so I can check/set/make a properly working uboot.(mostly so I can change the kernel location and run a custom kernel with working wifi)
Kernel/Android/Linux sources are available from Freescale. They are gearing up for the i.mx6q to be a long term SOC so we will be seeing future software updates.
There's a copy of this device called the Hi802. It will not be receiving the same updates or support as the GK802.
It's slightly cheaper, but they basically stole the design and shopped it out at trade shows.
It also won't be featuring the same usb cable/charger needed to update the firmware through the pc as the GK802 has.
I highly recommend you go with the original GK802 over the slightly cheaper copy.
The copy can't even offer a warrenty, let alone support for the device.
I want, but I wonder when will these go on special.
Did you order one?
I ordered one. I've also got a pre production GK802 sitting in front of me.
In case your wondering I also own (3)UG802, (1)MK808, (1)MX1, (1)MK802 III, (1) Oval Elephant, and a CX-01.
I've made kernels and custom firmwares for the rk3066 sticks.
I tend to go through all these sticks looking for something a bit better and I think I've found it with the GK802.
deadhp1 said:
I ordered one. I've also got a pre production GK802 sitting in front of me.
In case your wondering I also own (3)UG802, (1)MK808, (1)MX1, (1)MK802 III, (1) Oval Elephant, and a CX-01.
I've made kernels and custom firmwares for the rk3066 sticks.
I tend to go through all these sticks looking for something a bit better and I think I've found it with the GK802.
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Cool. I'd like to hear your impressions of the GR802
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I'm basically in awe over this stick.
It's much smoother than the rk3066 sticks.
However the benchmarks are not much better. This can be explained:
The rk3066 dual cores usually operates at 1.2 to 1.6Ghz. They get antutu scores ranging from 6800 to 9900.
The i.mx6 quad core in the GK802 operates at 996Mhz(it is a 1.2GHz chip). It gets scores of around 10430 at 720p and 9980 at 1080p.
Video playback is great! Audio/Video look to be nearly perfect if not perfectly in sync.
It can playback with hardware decoding in Dice Player, MX Player, BS Player and more.
Netflix works like a charm as usual.
When doing software decoding in XBMC beta 2 I can playback 720p without alot of frame drops. Very watchable.
Avi, smaller mkv's/mp4's also playback great in XBMC beta 2.
Youtube was working great until the last update from play store, now I can't seem to find the fullscreen button. I solved this by sideloading an older verison.
I really enjoy the removable internal storage. I've made dd backups for myself.
I'm also working on getting freescale's ubuntu release running.
The internal wireless has a pretty decent range. It can connect to my router at 150Mbps through 2 "wifi troubled" rooms.(aka wifi zone of death)
Being able to switch resolutions is a huge plus. The rk3066 stick can't do this yet.
All in all I've found this stick to be more stable than my others. Which is surprising considering that it's brand new to the market.
I'm recommending it to everyone I know. Especially anyone that runs linux, because that is a huge thing in my community.
This coming week I'll be doing a full review with pictures and screenshots. I just need my new GK802 to get here!
Cool. Thanks for the review.
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Hi deadhp1,
I saw a video about it in Youtube, is it correct that GK802 runs ICS instead of JB? Because of this, I'm delaying to get one. I have an iMito with JB, it's a lot smoother compared to those ICS sticks.
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The Gk802 is indeed based on ICS. Freescale has not released a JB port....yet.
I found the GK802's ICS experience to be just as smooth, if not smoother than any of my JB sticks.
I have the iMito MX1, and at real 1080p the GK802 is smoother.
I also have several other sticks including ug802, mk808, mx1, mk802 III, cx01, oval elephant. The GK802 beats them all hands down.
In other news I've soldered the 3.3v serial lines on my GK802 and have gotten access to the u-boot options.
I used the FTDI 3.3v Basic Serial to USB adapter from sparkfun and connected 3 wires the rx/tx, tx/rx, gnd/gnd wires.
After that I setup minicom to access it over ttyUSB0 115200, 8n1, no soft/hard flow control.
I had to hexedit the stock u-boot to change the bootarg "bootdelay=0" to "bootdelay=5" otherwise I couldn't interrupt the u-boot process.
I've been able to use the stock u-boot to boot the kernel included included in this release for the Nitrogen6x.
http://boundarydevices.com/latest-freescale-ubuntu-i-mx6/
I'm still stuck on the waiting for root filesystem, so my bootargs need some work.
After that's done it should be easier to compile a new u-boot with proper bootargs built in.
deadhp1 thanks for letting us know about the performance of the quadcore! I've got the MX1 (with the most recent firmware) and i love it. I saw that geekbuying was releasing the Zealz GK802 and thought about getting it but wasn't sure until someone reviewed the device. I look forward to your review of the device!
Have you tried playing shadowgun deadzone one there?
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What would nice is to know if the wifi signal strengh is good and if it doesn't drop.
The Hiapad Hi-802 looks exactly the same?
Hi,
do we know if we can use the GK802 fw on a Hi802 stick?
I believe I have placed my order to quick and I took the Hi802 for its design rather then the GK802
So any chance to use the GK802 updates/fws?
Thanks
Amazing, quad core in a stick, I will need to look into this. Thanks OP.
EDIT: didn't realize my topic w already discussed and answered. That's what i get for researching on my phone. Removed...
Broken Recovery Button:
deadhp1,
Could you post a card image with your new rooted firmware and updates. Then, I could dd on to the internal card? If I can not get the image I can not update my new device. My button is broke.
full internal micro-sd image posted up on my forum
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=1113
It's got the 12-13-2012 update applied to it, rooted, and play store fixed.
I'll try to make a new full image with the 12-20-2012 update applied tomorrow sometime!
In other news I'm making a bit more headway into getting linux to run on this thing. I still need to build a properly working kernel and uboot.
I soldered serial lines to my beta GK802 and am using that for testing. My production GK802 is mostly stock and kicking butt!
great work deadhp1, ur the reason im getting/trying to get this, Any 1 here want to explain uk taxes/fees for this item to a Recognized Contributor aka me?
I got one for baby. Now I wonder, did anyone test this keyboard (with gyroscope) with the GK802 yet? Here is a YouTube clip. Someone claims the two don't get to well together, but I would love to see the gyro functions in games etc.
knutars said:
I got one for baby. Now I wonder, did anyone test this keyboard (with gyroscope) with the GK802 yet? Here is a YouTube clip. Someone claims the two don't get to well together, but I would love to see the gyro functions in games etc.
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I haven't tried the RC11 model(I'm not a big fan of air mice), but I do have the RC12 with the touchpad(no air mouse). It works great with the GK802.
I can't see why the RC11 air mouse wouldn't work. It's almost the same model...even the box is the same.
Is this deal for essentially the same device? (They say 4 days left, and it's a whole dollar cheaper!) The branding is different but the specs look the same.
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As successful as Cube is in marketing their business-oriented Core-M tablets such as the i7, the i7-CM as well as the all new i7 Stylus, the leading brand in the Chinese tablet industry hasn’t forgot its roots, and released arguably the most cost-efficient tablet ever – the Cube i10 Dual Boot.
Powered by an Intel Atom Bay-trail Z3735F quad-core processor and 2GB RAM, the i10 Dual Boot may seem like just another entry-level Windows slate that can’t really do much more than entertainment use and lightweight desktop tasks. However, the 10.6-inch display here changes the whole perspective, as the increased screen real estate greatly improves the productivity of this slate. With a licensed copy of Windows 8.1 and free Office 365 included, the tablet is only priced at RMB699 ($113), easily one of the best bargains we have seen to date.
Cube i10 specs:
• OS: Android 4.4.4 & Windows 8.1 dual boot
• Display: 10.6-inch IPS, 10-point multi-touch, IGZO
• Screen Resolution: 1366 x 768 (16:9)
• CPU: Intel Atom Baytrail-T Z3735F Quad-core Processor
• CPU Frequency: 1.33GHz – 1.8GHZ
• GPU: Intel HD Graphic Gen7
• RAM / Storage: 2GB / 32GB
• Function: WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, OTG
• WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n
• Camera: 2MP back camera, VGA front camera
• Battery: 6,600mAh
• Extend Port: TF Card Slot, SIM Card Slot, Full USB2.0 Port, Micro USB Port, 3.5mm Headphone Jack, 2.5mm DC Port
• Weight & Size: 580g / 281.2*176*9.85mm
Design and build
Measuring at 281.2*176*9.85mm and weighs 580g, the i10 Dual Boot Edition is certainly not fighting to be the thinnest or lightest tablet in the world. But for a dual boot tablet with a 10.6-inch display, it is quite compact. It is much thinner than the Acer ICONIA W700, which measures at 11.9mm thick, but it is a little porkier than the Cube i7 (9.1mm).
The front of the tablet is dominated by a 10.6-inch IPS display, with the healthy amount of bezel to help you hold the tablet easily, whether in portrait or landscape mode. A VGA front camera sits comfortably above the screen, while a touch-sensitive Windows Key is located below the display.
The two physical buttons are both hosted on the top side of the tablet, while all the ports and slots are located on the left side, including a full USB 2.0 port, a Micro USB port, a mini HDMI port, a 3.5mm headphone jack, a 2.5mm DC port, and a Micro SD card slot covered by a plastic lid.
Most budget tablets have plastic chassis as a result of the cost, but the i10 dual boot is one of the exceptions. It features a metallic rear made of aluminium alloy, usually something we only see on premium tablets. The reason why Cube does not choose cheaper material for such a low-end tablet is unknown, but we applaud such generosity and ambitions.
A 2MP rear-facing camera and two stereo speakers are also on the back of the slate, so as Cube’s brand logo and some basic information of the tablet.
On the bottom side of the tablet you could see the magnetic docking which can help the i10 Dual Boot establish a solid connection to the keyboard cover, but we haven’t received one along with our review unit.
Overall the manufacturing quality of the i10 Dual Boot is pretty good and superior to that of the similarly-priced rival products. Tablets like the Surface 3 or the Cube i7 still belong to a completely different class and give the impression of being substantially more valuable.
Display and sound
The thing that sets the i10 Dual Boot apart from the other entry-level dual OS tablets is its screen size. Although Cube officially stated that the i10 Dual Boot has the same display used on the first Generation of Microsoft Surface RT, yet it is still difficult to assume how big the screen really is if you haven’t owned one. To help you better understand the size of the screen, here are some comparisons we have made for you.
If you put the i10 Dual Boot and the 8-inch iWork 8 3G together, you could easily see that the i10 Dual Boot has a much larger display, almost twice as large as the 8-inch display on the iWork 8 3G.
And if we compared the i10 Dual Boot’s 10.6-inch screen to the Acer W700’s 11.6-inch display, you could see it is smaller, but the difference is less significant.
As for the quality of the display on the i10 Dual Boot, the IPS panel has a resolution of 1366*768, which translates into a pixel density of 148PPI, clearly not fascinating by today’s standards. But given the amount of horsepower the Intel Graphics HD GPU could generate, it is a decent choice as it won’t drag down the performance.
The 10.6-inch display here has all the perks of an IPS screen: wide viewing angles, true to life colors and contrast, as well as fair brightness.
We are able to notice individual pixels while we look at the display closely, but it’s not something that you will focus on after using the tablet for a while.
Like most of Cube’s tablets, the i10 Dual Boot’s speakers are clear-sounding, and produce relatively loud, full output that’s just good enough to make me forego my headphones while watching YouTube videos. With that said, I still very much needed my Monster headphone or Astrotec IEMs when I was listening to music.
System and apps
As the model name suggests, the i10 Dual Boot has both Windows 8.1 and Android 4.4.4 preinstalled. It is known to all that tablets with screen smaller than 9 inches get free licensed copy of Windows 8 and one year free subscription of Office 365 from Microsoft. But the Cube i10 Dual Boot has a 10.6-inch display, so Cube must pay for the license fee of Windows and Office, and fortunately, the RMB699 ($113) retail price has already covered all of that.
Like the i6, the i10 Dual Boot doesn’t have an OS selector in tis bootscreen, instead it automatically launches the operating system you shut your tablet down from the last time.
Switching between the two operating systems is conveniently accomplished by tapping a software icon on the screen. The switch isn’t instantaneous, the tablet need to perform a full reboot to enter the other operating system, but fortunately it normally only takes less than half a minute.
Storage
The 32GB eMMc in our review unit is split up into two partitions: Windows is on one (24GB), Android 4.4.4 is on another (8GB). There’s no direct, automatic sharing of photos, documents, or other app data between the two operating systems. The explanation by Cube makes sense – it is to prevent users from deleting important system files of one OS while they are running on the other OS. After the initial setup, the Windows 8.1 side has only 14GB storage available, which should be enough for a few programs, but a microSD card larger than 32GB is definitely a must if you also need to store media files. The Android 4.4.4 side has only 3GB available after booting into it for the first time, which should be enough for apps, but you still need the Micro SD card for other files, including the data package of those big applications and 3D games.
Performance
The Cube i10 Dual Boot comes with an Intel Atom Z3735F processor with Intel HD Graphics, 2GB of memory, and the aforementioned 32GB eMMc drive, the standard internal setup for budget Windows 8 and dual boot tablets. While the i10 Dual Boot isn’t really a powerhouse tablet and delivers equivalent performance with other Atom Bay-trail powered tablets such as the ASUS A100T, it is still measurably faster than those running older-generation Atom processors like the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2.
This can be seen in the benchmark scores, where the i10 Dual Boot scored 1,392 points in PCMark 8 test, topping the ThinkPad Tablet2 (957). Similar results were seen on the Peacekeeper test, where the Cube i10 Dual Boot scored 968, which is significantly faster than the ThinkPad Tablet 2 (951).
In the Android Benchmark tests, the i10 Dual Boot scored as much as some of the most powerful Android tablets out there.
Benchmarks aside, in the real world use, the i1.0 Dual Boot performed like a Champion in Android, handling even the heaviest tasks and some of the most graphic-intense games with ease. In Windows, things are a little different, all apps installed from the Windows 8 app store ran smoothly, with no lag or stutters at all. But like all other Bay-trail powered Windows slates, the i10 Dual Boot did struggle a little bit with demanding Windows desktop applications such as image and video editing programs. Fortunately, the most important productivity tool – the Microsoft Office, which was perfectly compatible with touchscreen operations, ran smoothly on this slate.
While the performance could be expected as we are all very familiar with the Intel Bay-trail series processors, the real issue which we need to mention here is the heat. The rear side of the i10 Dual Boot could easily get warm after working for a moment, and it got really heated running heavy-weight Windows desktop applications.
To sum things up, the i10 Dual Boot won't completely replace those i5 powered ultrabook-class laptop like the Cube i7 does, but it isn't a slouch like older Atom tablets were.
Battery life
Cube claims that the 6,600mAh battery in the i10 Dual Boot can offer 5 hours of video playback on a full charge, but we did manage to get a little more than that in our standard cngadget battery test. Playing a 1080P video on loop with 30% screen brightness (sufficient for indoor use) and 50% volume from the rear-facing speakers, the i10 Dual Boot lasted 5 hours and 37 minutes until auto shutdown.
Cameras
The i10 Dual Boot has two cameras on board, one on the front and one on the rear. The front-facing VGA camera can be used for video chatting, but only under decent lighting. The rear-facing 2MP camera cannot really do much in either photo or video mode, and we probably will never use it again after finishing this review.
Summary
The Cube i10 Dual Boot has the chops to replace both a mobile tablet and a business docking laptop for entertainment and daily Office tasks. It has full Windows 8.1 compatibility going for it, when connected with a business friendly keyboard cover through the docks, the i10 Dual Boot can really offer a decent amount of productivity. Whenever you needed entertainment, you can easily switch to the Android side and enjoy tons of touchscreen friendly apps. But with a dual boot tablet pried at only $113, you also have to find peace with some of its weaknesses: the not so great screen resolution, the below-average battery life and the heat while dealing with intense tasks.
The good
Price.
Screen size.
Metal chassis.
Full USB port
HDMI
The bad
Screen resolution
Battery life
Heat
Hey thanks for the review. I ordered one myself after reading ur review. wanna know how long it takes to fully charge the tablet from 0?
gxthelord said:
Hey thanks for the review. I ordered one myself after reading ur review. wanna know how long it takes to fully charge the tablet from 0?
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Normally 4-5 hours
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Normally 4-5 hours
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Oh is the tablet still with you? I ordered my should be arriving soon. Did u got the keyboard by now?
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Oh is the tablet still with you? I ordered my should be arriving soon. Did u got the keyboard by now?
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it is still with me, but i havent got the keyboard yet.
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jupiter2012 said:
it is still with me, but i havent got the keyboard yet.
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Were u able to root it on the Android side?
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Were u able to root it on the Android side?
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it can be connected to a PC as a slave, so it can be rooted one way or another.
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it can be connected to a PC as a slave, so it can be rooted one way or another.
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Great to know that xD. Btw bro do u get the dcin charger when u buy the tablet? Mine come with a 5V 2A charger for microusb. Not the one for its DC in.
Aside of that my cube I10 doesn't comes with an office 365. Audio is also on the quiet side. Even on max I could barely hear it if my windows are open. Compared to my 8 inch Pipo w2. I can let go all of those but what annoys me most is it comes with Windows 8.1 bing that I couldn't display English system locale and its stucked on Chinese. T.T hope u can guide me a little bro.
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Aside of that my cube I10 doesn't comes with an office 365. Audio is also on the quiet side. Even on max I could barely hear it if my windows are open. Compared to my 8 inch Pipo w2. I can let go all of those but what annoys me most is it comes with Windows 8.1 bing that I couldn't display English system locale and its stucked on Chinese. T.T hope u can guide me a little bro.
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cant you even download and install the english language pack?
来自我的 HTC D820t 上的 Tapatalk
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cant you even download and install the english language pack?
来自我的 HTC D820t 上的 Tapatalk
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yes I am unable to Install the language pack at all. I can type in English but when trying to set it to display it says This Version of windows can only display one language. I even tried removing the Chinese language. Still the same.
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yes I am unable to Install the language pack at all. I can type in English but when trying to set it to display it says This Version of windows can only display one language. I even tried removing the Chinese language. Still the same.
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my unit has been sent to repair because i dropped it, i will contact cube and ask them for a solution to your issue.
来自我的 HTC D820t 上的 Tapatalk
Sure thanks a lot. I also have contacted cube. Waiting their reply.
for Chuwi vi10 corrected a bug with a dim font in the Android! When at us it is made?
Is this the same thing only with Windows 10?
http://www.dealsmachine.com/best_263611.html
Legioner007 said:
for Chuwi vi10 corrected a bug with a dim font in the Android! When at us it is made?
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Are there really people buying Chuwi tablets? Never trust their after sale service.
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Sure thanks a lot. I also have contacted cube. Waiting their reply.
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I flashed the REMIX rom for i10, now it is more useful.
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can u share the link to the rom? By the way are u able to keep the dual boot after flashing the remix?
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can u share the link to the rom? By the way are u able to keep the dual boot after flashing the remix?
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After lookin it so long here is the link for the Cube Remix Rom. Would have appreciated it is TS share it earlier.
Remix OS: http://www.51cube.com/ch/DownShow.asp?ID=365
Stock Windows and Android Dual boot Firmware: http://www.51cube.com/ch/DownShow.asp?ID=350
PS. I'm not sure why but when flashing the stock firmwares, I lost my licensing for WIndows.
Dear all
i accidently uninstall insyde application for switching os to android
what should i do to access the android side of my cube i10?
thx a lot
9.7 inch Teclast X98 Plus Windows10 Tablet PC Intel Cherry-Trail X5 Z8300 64Bit Quad Core 1.84GHz IPS Screen 4GB RAM 64GB ROM Bluetooth 4.0 HDMI WiDi Functions
Specification
Operating system: Windows 10 OS
Display: 9.7 Inch 2048*1536 IPS capacitive touch screen
CPU: Intel Cherry Trail X5 Z8300 Quad Core 1.84GHz CPU
GPU: Intel HD Graphics Gen8
Storage: 2x64 LPDDR3-1600 4GB RAM + 64GB eMMC ROM
Cameras: Front 2.0MP + Rear 5.0MP OV Lens with AF
Functions: Support Bluetooth 4.0/WiFi/HDMI/WiDi
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i think its a great option for the geeky guys , since it costs only 198$
Thanks for sharing with us! In my country costs like 300$, so do you know if I can find it elsewhere cheaper (including shipping ofc)?
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Thanks for sharing with us! In my country costs like 300$, so do you know if I can find it elsewhere cheaper (including shipping ofc)?
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which is your country ? I saw this tablet on geek buying 198.99usd,you country so expensive .:angel:
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which is your country ? I saw this tablet on geek buying 198.99usd,you country so expensive .:angel:
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Oh thanks I will give it a glimpse! I live in Greece of the capital controls, which translates to expensive and out of stock tech stuff
Anyone seen any webshop where the Windows 10 single OS version is still available?
I only find the new Windows 10/Android 5.1 version.
Since I already got a great Android Tablet, the dual OS would just be a waste of space of the still very limited storage.
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Anyone seen any webshop where the Windows 10 single OS version is still available?
I only find the new Windows 10/Android 5.1 version.
Since I already got a great Android Tablet, the dual OS would just be a waste of space of the still very limited storage.
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Chuwi vi8 plus and chuwi hi 10 are both the windows single os
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Chuwi vi8 plus and chuwi hi 10 are both the windows single os
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Thank you for your help, but I was talking about the Teclast x98 Plus, since according to most tests, it got the best battery time of the bunch of similar tablets.
Later I found it in stock in the gearbest EU warehouse.
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Anyone seen any webshop where the Windows 10 single OS version is still available?
I only find the new Windows 10/Android 5.1 version.
Since I already got a great Android Tablet, the dual OS would just be a waste of space of the still very limited storage.
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http://www.tinydeal.com/teclast-x98-plus-97-win-10-z8300-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-hdmi-p-156727.html
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http://www.tinydeal.com/teclast-x98-plus-97-win-10-z8300-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-hdmi-p-156727.html
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Thanks
I ordered the dual OS version from Banggood yesterday. €185.97 minus €13 with coupong code: ee75d0
Looking forward to get it in my hands and play with it. Well, postage is 7-20 days, so got some waiting to do
I just got Teclast X98 PLUS dual boot...
I can say first impression are better on what I expect... But i have some questions...
1. On Android partition, how can i remove/erase all that Chinese applications?
2. How can i set win10 on English language and remove Chinese apps?
3. On Android version how can i add 2 accounts (2 deferend Gmail users/accounts and each one to be separated from other? I need one account profile for my self and one for my wife.)
4. And last question does mirek190 had any rom that can make that tablet a beast??
Thank you in advance..
phoenix10 said:
I just got Teclast X98 PLUS dual boot...
I can say first impression are better on what I expect... But i have some questions...
1. On Android partition, how can i remove/erase all that Chinese applications?
2. How can i set win10 on English language and remove Chinese apps?
3. On Android version how can i add 2 accounts (2 deferend Gmail users/accounts and each one to be separated from other? I need one account profile for my self and one for my wife.)
4. And last question does mirek190 had any rom that can make that tablet a beast??
Thank you in advance..
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I haven't got mine yet, so can't say what works, but...
1. Normal for any device with bloatware would be to root it and uninstall the apps with Titanium or something. Try to find some working root method, check the forums for the X98 plus's siblings, X98 Air, X98 Pro and so. I assume the Android 5.1 image is more or less the same on all of them. So the same root should work on all on them.
2. On techtablets there are some tips and tricks http://techtablets.com/forum/topic/x98-plus-trickstips/ for how to factory reset or reinstall Windows 10 to a clean state.
3. Wouldn't that be a standard thing in Android 5 and up with multiple profiles?
4. Sorry, I can't help you there
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3. Wouldn't that be a standard thing in Android 5 and up with multiple profiles?
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yeap !!
i need to have 2 or 3 accounts and switching between each other depending from the person using it
for sure i need 2 profiles mine and my wifes
hi, i have x98plus only windows
can i add dual boot?
Hey guys
Am very disappointed from my buying
(teclast X98 plus dual boot)
The tablet its too weak with much lags or delays..
Especially on battery that seems to be powerful its still weak..
Today from 62% remaining battery suddenly drop to 35% and after 20mins it get shut down with 0 battery..
Am very disappointed
In one hand i didn't use Windows only android section but its still weak..
Also from tablet are missing apps like a task killer or gapps
I hope mirek190 to give us a rom for PLUS dual boot as he did with PRO dual boot..
Any one else facing that problems??
P. S.
How is possible with 4GB ram to be laggy or apps like SwiftKey keyboard and eBay app to be so slow??
Good news for folks in Europe:
https://twitter.com/Gizchina/status/697354278881488896
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Hey guys
Am very disappointed from my buying
(teclast X98 plus dual boot)
The tablet its too weak with much lags or delays..
Especially on battery that seems to be powerful its still weak..
Today from 62% remaining battery suddenly drop to 35% and after 20mins it get shut down with 0 battery..
Am very disappointed
In one hand i didn't use Windows only android section but its still weak..
Also from tablet are missing apps like a task killer or gapps
I hope mirek190 to give us a rom for PLUS dual boot as he did with PRO dual boot..
Any one else facing that problems??
P. S.
How is possible with 4GB ram to be laggy or apps like SwiftKey keyboard and eBay app to be so slow??
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Have things improved for you any?
Generally you shouldnt need a task manager, but it sounds like root would be handy to clear out any bloat/unwanted apps.
Have you installed any battery monitor apps like gsam to see whats sucking the power?
so guys !! thinks didnt went well with battery !! since i bought that tablet .. max battery 4 hours with medium use and screen on 20% ...
last night i tried to figure out what is going on ..
so i removed from tablet
2 user profiles i had (i think wile you are using one of 2 the second one is still active)
i remove all social apps
i installed greenify app and i select all apps (including systems)
i also installed DU battery saver
and nova launcher ..
now am going for a full charge
and i will see tomorrow how things work ..
i will let you know !!
but i want badly to root that device and i dont know how !!
I am playing with this tab about a week now and think to reinstall windows and try mirek190 x98pro rom. Any guesses why should this go wrong? Have someone already tried this out?
Btw, at first day i had a vertical line of bad pixels on the screen. But after full charge and discharge they disappeared o_0.
So as my previous post
After i done what I said above..
I saw some difference on battery life...
(additional i deleted DU battery & DU boost)
So with 100% charged battery
I tested like this
1 h 15 m on YouTube
30m Clash of Clans game
15m random use
In that 2 hours of use battery from 100% dropped to 72%
It's that good?? (before for sure will be at 45-50%)
Secondly any one knows how to root that tablet?
And finally does mirek willing to build a rom compatible with plus dual boot?
Now i would like to share Chuwi VI8 Plus tablet pc review with you. This is the windows 10 OS tablet pc, which be the other version of Chuwi VI8 dual boot model. Chuwi VI8 Plus is built in Type C port to be the nice version for most users. Chuwi Tablet PC has made big progress in the past few years. It has provided us not only the nice and affordable price, but also the ultra wonderful performance.
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Chuwi VI8 plus highlights overview:
Operating system:*Windows10 OS
Display:*8 Inch*IPS*1280*800, 10 Points Capacitive touch screen
CPU:*Intel Cherry Trail X5 Z8300 Quad Core 1.84GHz CPU
Storage:*2GB DDR3 RAM + 32GB eMMC ROM, T-Flash 64GB max
Dual cameras:*Front 2.0MP + Rear 2.0MP
Functions:*Support Bluetooth 4.0/OTG/HDMI/WiFi/Type-C
Build & Quality:
Chuwi VI8 Plus is made of plastic material, it has USB Type C port, the demension has 211.2mm length, 123.2 width and 9.3mm height, it weigh 350g which is easy to handle and take or bring. It has HDMI and Type C port which has much progress than that of Chuwi VI8 tablet pc.
It has 8inch 1280 *800 screen display and support 10 points capacitive touch screen. To some degree, the screen size is reasonable for a convenient tablet pc. And the screen resolution also gives us the nice video playing or games playing. I don't have to buy a ipad mini to spend much money with low performance. This Chuwi VI8 plus can gives us that ipad which will not provide. And Chuwi VI8 plus has supported Windows 10 OS , which is the latest OS like a real PC.You can treat this tablet pc like a computer to do office work, and personal recreation.
Therefore, i am so satisfied with this Chuwi VI8 Plus with this kind of design and quality. BTW, the screen also responses so quickly.
CPU and Internal storage:
Chuwi VI8 plus this time is powered by Intel Cherry Trail X5 Z8300 Quad Core 1.84GHz CPU and 2GB DDR3 RAM + 32GB eMMC ROM, and it can be expandable to 64GB by TF card. As you know Cherry Trail X5 is the lastest chipset of Intel company. and the performance will be compared with a computer. Altought it just has Quad core processor, when you paly games , you can feel the outstanding power than those dual core tablet PC. So you don't have to worry about the playing speed. And it has RAM 2GB and ROM 32GB which can support download many apps as i want. Of course, i just download the useful apps. I am afraid it will run slowly. Meanwhile, if you think the storage is not enough for you to use, you can add the tf card to expand the storage to 64GB. i bet it will be defintely large enough to use.
Dual cameras:*
Chuwi vi8 plus has improved the dual camera with front 2.0mp and Rear 2.0mp camera, due to the last tablet Chuiw VI8 with only 0.2mp front camera, this time Chuwi VI8 plus has 2.0mp front camera with can be used well in facing time or video chat. Of course i can also take selfies by it. And the back camera 2.0 mp also let me take some vivid pictures, although it can't be matched the smartphone with 13MP camera.
Battery Life:
With only a 4000 mAh battery inside is it enough? Using Battery Bar Pro, your looking around 5-6hours hours of normal web, video and doc use depending on what your doing and screen brightness of course. Personally I would have liked an hour or so more here, but it seems size or most likely cost constraints came into play in terms of battery capacity. But overall it’s good for an 8 inch Windows tablet.
Final Thought:
I am so satisfied with Chuwi VI8 Plus right now, i spend less and get a windows 10 OS tablet pc to support USB Type C charging. It also has HDMI port which is the one of most features i like. Of course , i don't know if you like the 8 inch screen size. So how do you feel about it?
Great specs for the price. I would like a bigger battery, but 4000mAh are enough. And what about connectivity? Does it have an HDMI? Also, are there any other versions such as dual boot (Android+Windows) as the Chuwi Vi8 or does it come just with Windows?
[email protected] said:
Great specs for the price. I would like a bigger battery, but 4000mAh are enough. And what about connectivity? Does it have an HDMI? Also, are there any other versions such as dual boot (Android+Windows) as the Chuwi Vi8 or does it come just with Windows?
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yeah, it supports HDMI port, and Onda V820w CH has similar specs at Chuwi VI8 Plus. you can compare them and make the choice. It supports Windows 10 OS and Android os, too. Any other idea ?
I have a Chuwi Wi10, and it's amazing if you unistall Android. I have installed Win10 and run flawlessly. Vi8 plus won't be the exception.
What's the difference between this and the other CHUWI VI8 that came out earlier (non-Plus)?
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What's the difference between this and the other CHUWI VI8 that came out earlier (non-Plus)?
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Chuwi VI8 is the old version, it has Windows 8.1 OS, and Chuwi vi8 plus has the Windows 10 OS. Better performance.
FumiJ said:
Chuwi VI8 is the old version, it has Windows 8.1 OS, and Chuwi vi8 plus has the Windows 10 OS. Better performance.
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Oh ok, that's a nice upgrade, I really like the USB type-C integration, I always get so nervous when I've to put my tablet on charge because I feel like the proprietary charging connector could break any time.
Is this on sale already?
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Oh ok, that's a nice upgrade, I really like the USB type-C integration, I always get so nervous when I've to put my tablet on charge because I feel like the proprietary charging connector could break any time.
Is this on sale already?
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Yeah, i guess so, you can check and compare, then make the choice, but USB Type C connection is an outstanding feature for most users. This is the new progress for Chuwi VI8 Plus tablet pc .
MrCego said:
I have a Chuwi Wi10, and it's amazing if you unistall Android. I have installed Win10 and run flawlessly. Vi8 plus won't be the exception.
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CHuwi HI10 has supported Windows 10 OS itself. there is no Android version right now.
Share the real picture of Chuwi VI8 Plus with you.
Looks pretty nice, is the USB type-C port surrounded by metal? And what's that other port?
looks great
i especielly like the usb-c port, since just a month ago i had to replace my old phone due to a broken usb port. this looks like a very good value for money, sold in under 100$ in geekbuying.
shop video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyYm3cfBi0&feature=youtu.be
and product page if anyone is interested:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html
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i especielly like the usb-c port, since just a month ago i had to replace my old phone due to a broken usb port. this looks like a very good value for money, sold in under 100$ in geekbuying.
shop video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyYm3cfBi0&feature=youtu.be
and product page if anyone is interested:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html
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Thanks dude! Seems to be working smoothly, really nice.
talevi said:
i especielly like the usb-c port, since just a month ago i had to replace my old phone due to a broken usb port. this looks like a very good value for money, sold in under 100$ in geekbuying.
shop video review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyYm3cfBi0&feature=youtu.be
and product page if anyone is interested:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/CHUW...-IPS-1280-800-HDMI-Type-C---Black-360389.html
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Thanks, it seems very neat. At that price tag, I guess I have to give it a try.
How can I backup the Windows 10 rom? Is there an Android rom available? (I'm not looking for dual boot)
You can see in TechTablets.
Hello guys,
Have any of you tried this tablet for reading?
I am looking for a cheap tablet to use as an e-reader. This one seems to have a high-quality display on paper, but is it really good, does it strain your eyes?
Also could anybody tell if there is any difference between Chuwi and other similar Chinese brands that you can find on geekbuy or gearbest, like Onda or Techlast?
not good for reading in my opinion
the screen is too dark for me and becomes darker after about 140° viewing angle
windows 10 is not my way by many aspects. Anyway.
Is there a possibility to flash an android system on Chuwi vi8 plus?
In Techtablets you can find info about that.
abillio said:
not good for reading in my opinion
the screen is too dark for me and becomes darker after about 140° viewing angle
windows 10 is not my way by many aspects. Anyway.
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Thanks for the info. I kinda like W10, and I also need it in my tablet, in order to have some productivity on the move.
Maybe I will have to go for the more expensive MI Pad 2. It's screen seems way better, and aspect ratio 4:3 is more suitable for reading.
CHUWI Lapbook SE - 13.3" IPS FHD | Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake) | 4GB | 32GB + 128GB
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* SHARP LQ133M1JW08
CPU: Intel Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake)
RAM: 4GB DDR4 2133MHz (Single-Channel)
* 1x4GB DDR4 2400MHz running at 2133MHz (S5RG2Q20CMS?)
eMMC: Sandisk DF4032 32GB*
* Speed: ~157 Read [MB/s] and ~113 Write [MB/s]
SSD: M.2 2280 SATA3 FORESEE FSGGMNC-128G 128GB*
* Speed: ~537 Read [MB/s] and ~439 Write [MB/s]
Audio Codec: Realtek HD Audio (can't find the precise model)
WiFi/Bluetooth: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165
Sensors: Hall Sensor
Touchpad: Hantick HTIX5288 (recognized as Precision Touchpad)
Ports: 2x USB 3.0 (one for each side, both running at full speed), 1x Mini-HDMI 2.0 Output, 1x Headphone Jack
SD Card Reader: Realtek RTS5129 (USB 2.0)
Security: Trusted Platform Module 2.0
Front-facing Camera: 2.0MP Photos - 720p30 Videos (Generic USB)
Speakers: 4x (declared, not confirmed yet) with the sound coming out of the Keyboard
Battery: 2x 3.8V/5000 mAh cells = 7.6V 38Wh* (37Wh from the BIOS)
* Guangdong Pow-Tech New Power - PT 2877164-2S (2ICP3/77/164)
Power Supply: Xinspower A241-1202000D DC 12V/2A 3.5mm*10mm
Operating System: Windows 10 Home x64 (Multi-language)
* Genuine License
Real Weight: 1441g
Real Size: 31.7 x 21.6 x 1.43 cm
Extras: Backlit Keyboard and Logo, Aluminum Chassis with Plastic
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Internals:
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Drivers:
Archive (07/09/2018)
Older Packages:
None yet.
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BIOS:
Not available yet.
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Official Website:
CHUWI Lapbook SE at chuwi.com
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Based on @Wootever thread layout.
Backlight Bleeding issue
Just like what happened in the past with the CHUWI Lapbook Air (1st batch, latest ones are not affected), also the Lapbook SE is affected by the same annoying issue. Basically, you need to be lucky in order to get a unit with a perfectly glued screen until they fix the issue in the production line.
Full-quality photo album here: https://imgur.com/a/1pGcJ3S
Thermal Mod
Since this PC was reaching almost 90c under heavy-load with the locked 6W TDP, I decided to go ahead and open it. Unfortunately, many bad surprises came out.
ALERT: Be careful, there are some hidden screws that made me crazy while opening it since my Lapbook Air was not featuring them.
First of all, there was no thermal pad between the heatsink and the metal chassis (the one you see here has been added by me as a test).
Second, the heatsink seems to be recycled from another motherboard, but this is just the beginning. Due to this, the coating used to shield the Metal from the Motherboard was behaving as a barrier for the heat.
So, the only way to fix this mess is by removing the coating from both heatsink and metal chassis (because yes, they insulated also that). I used some abrasive paper (P400) to remove most of the coating.
The thermal pad has been replaced with thermal paste (Kyronaut by Thermal Grizzly).
By doing this process i have discovered that the thermal pad i used as test on the heatsink was too thin (0.5mm) so i have switched to something probably overkill (1.5mm), both pads were high-performance ones BTW for the best results.
Funny story, 1.5mm resulted to not be overkill at all because there is also a design issue with this heatsink, that is not being perfectly flat thus the distance between the die and the heatsink itself is quite big so this extra thickness of the 1.5mm Thermal Pad worked perfectly. NOTE: I would recommend to go for a copper pad instead of a thermal pad but i don't have any thermal adhesive so i decided to go for something safe.
Done! As a result of this process, temps dropped by ~10C at 6W, reaching maximum 65c under Prime95 maximum heat test.
Full-quality photo album can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/2Yi24vL
For those interested, even though it is possible to disable Power Limit 1 in the BIOS, the setting is ignored and the maximum power usage keeps getting limited to 6W. XTU is not working either (blank tab).
For those interested, even though it is possible to disable Power Limit 1 in the BIOS, the setting is ignored and the maximum power usage keeps getting limited to 6W. XTU is not working either (blank tab).
By using ThrottleStop it is possible to unlock power limits properly: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/
The problem is that temps get too high even with the thermal mod, i may consider liquid metal as next experiment.
Update regarding my Thermal mod. I was not satisfied with the result so proceeded and this is what i had to do.
First of all, i switched to liquid metal (Conductonaut) so i had to insulate almost the whole motherboard.
Then, as you can see here, a small piece of heatsink has been removed since, due to the design flaw, it was causing it to be bent improperly with poor contact with the die.
The result is unfortunately not superb, but i am now able to stay with power limits unlocked (via Throttlestop) with no/minimum thermal throttling.
2160p60 Playback with no Power Limits
windows 10 on ssd
Hi, I've seen that the SSD is faster than the emmc. do you know if it is possible to install Windows 10 on the ssd?
Willower said:
Hi, I've seen that the SSD is faster than the emmc. do you know if it is possible to install Windows 10 on the ssd?
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Yep, why not? It is handled just like a secondary drive.
Chromium OS
Chromium OS for Lapbook SE
This is a release candidate and the final release will be more polished and with a working built-in installer.
Downloads:
Chromium OS 68 Image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N8qNpLruVz3gJieWwReb2fqe-lirqUJ9/view?usp=sharing
Installation: Depending on the destination device, you may have to follow different installation guides.
- Internal SSD (for permanent installation): in order to avoid issues, you need Linux, so choose your preferred distro and boot it (a live USB is fine, you don't need to install it). Then follow this video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N17rPCj9ye8
- USB Devices (HDD/SSD/Flash Drives, for portable installation also known as Live USB, 16GB minimum): you can use both Windows and Linux. For Windows, just download Rufus (https://rufus.akeo.ie/), choose your USB device, tick DD mode (instead of ISO) and proceed. For Linux, the video guide linked for the Internal SSD installation can be followed.
Known Bugs:
- Unavailable tap to click (the hardware click button works fine though)
- Broken Chromium OS Installer (disabled to avoid complains)
FAQ:
- Question: I can't find the Play Store as seen on Chromebooks, where is it?
- Answer: You won't find it until Google decides to make this feature available to the public.
- Question: The Laptop is stuttering and stops responding for a while, please help.
- Answer: It means that your External USB Device is painfully slow and have to consider to get a faster USB 3.0 device to avoid this.
- Question: Is the current image source-built? If yes, where is the kernel source as requested by GPL?
- Answer: No, the current release candidate build is based on another already built image thus i have no source code for it. I am waiting for the public source release in fix all remaining issues plus make the source code available.
Wow the maximum power usage is insane without any power limit enabled. Almost 21W without any active cooling is just too much to handle, i was lucky to get only a maximum of 85c thanks to my extreme thermal mod but i can't recommend to keep power limits completely off without doing it.
Hi
thanks for the detailed information regarding this laptop
I would like to know if you have tried upgrading the SSD, specifically if it'll be able to boot from an NVMe M.2 SSD?
hope to hear from you soon. Thanks
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Alberto96 said:
Yep, why not? It is handled just like a secondary drive.
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I intend to put a new SSD of 240 or 500gb could you suggest some models that have a high reading and work on this handset?
vkashin said:
Hi
thanks for the detailed information regarding this laptop
I would like to know if you have tried upgrading the SSD, specifically if it'll be able to boot from an NVMe M.2 SSD?
hope to hear from you soon. Thanks
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Yes, already tested.
tekadon said:
I intend to put a new SSD of 240 or 500gb could you suggest some models that have a high reading and work on this handset?
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I don't know your budget so i can't recommend you a specific model, Samsung SSDs are the best on the market as far as i know. BTW, any M.2 2280 SATA (not PCIe!) SSD will work on this device.
Ssd
Alberto96 said:
Yes, already tested.
I don't know your budget so i can't recommend you a specific model, Samsung SSDs are the best on the market as far as i know. BTW, any M.2 2280 SATA (not PCIe!) SSD will work on this device.
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My budget is 110 dollars Just let me know the names. I live in Brazil so the values vary a lot. I wanted a high reading. I found one of Kingston a1000 among others. But I'm confused by this SSD issue. I bought one but it is wrong, I ended up buying a SSD pcie So I would recommend some models to me.
tekadon said:
My budget is 110 dollars Just let me know the names. I live in Brazil so the values vary a lot. I wanted a high reading. I found one of Kingston a1000 among others. But I'm confused by this SSD issue. I bought one but it is wrong, I ended up buying a SSD pcie So I would recommend some models to me.
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Samsung 860 EVO M.2
Does somebody found a way to make camera work in Linux?
Hi, what settings do you have to change in TS in order to remove power limits on the N4100?
Thank you in advance.
Noob quick question
I majorly f-ed up my Chuwi SE. I thought I successfully cloned it to the 128 SSD, then deleted the eMMC. But, I now get this blue error screen.
Anyhoo. I'm trying to reinstall windows using the drivers the OP posted (thanks), and the windows + bios files on the chuwi site (slow going. Keeps getting network errors while dloading...). [sry, can't post outside link as I'm a new member. It is located on the official chuwi forums]
ANyway, my question. After I install windows (fingers crossed). How do I install the bios files that I downloaded from the chuwi forum? I downloaded them and they appear to be 4-5 different .efi files scattered about. How do I use these files, and do I need to install all of them? Many thanks in advance.
Hello... Post an HD photo of the motherboard, I'm interested to see the type of RAM installed