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Nvidia Shield Tablet Revealed

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While the announcement takes place on 22nd July, the Tegra K1 powered Shield tablet won’t hit the market until 29th July in the US/Canada market followed by Europe launch in August 14th and availability will be expanded to more regions in Fall 2014. The Shield tablet will be available in two variants, a 16 GB WiFi model which will retail at $299 US and a 32 GB LTE model which will retail at $399 US. The Shield tablet will also come with additional accessories such as a wireless shield controller and a shield cover which will retail for $59 and $39 respectively.
Coming to the specifications, the Shield tablet is impressive considering it features the Tegra K1 SOC which was unveiled by NVIDIA at CES 2014. From a technical perspective, the NVIDIA Shield Tablet boasts the Tegra K1 SOC with 192 Kepler GPU cores and a 2.2 GHz Quad Core Cortex A15 CPU. This along with 2 GB memory offers better performance than the competitors in the same price range. For connectivity, NVIDIA Shield Tablet offers Wi-FI + LTE on the 32 GB variant which is priced at $399 US while the $299 variant will only feature Wi-Fi connectivity.
The display used on the Shield Tablet is an 8 Inch Full HD IPS LCD which features a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1200. This is a well added display considering a smaller display would have wasted the potential of the Tegra K1′s SOC in gaming and other applications. Now users can fully unleash the gaming performance of this tablet since it is from its core, a gaming product. The Tablet comes with a DirectStylus 2 included (in-holster) which can be used on the display for writing and painting if you don’t want to use touch. Audio is offered by Front facing stereo audio speakers with dual bass reflex port and connected via a 3.5 mm jack. Back in the original Shield, NVIDIA had one of the best audio design for a hand held device and this could be another win when it comes to audio.
Gaming features have been a core part of the Shield devices and NVIDIA’s Shield Tablet aims on reintroducing and refining each single one of them by adding Shield Wireless Controller compatibility, NVIDIA GameStream, NVIDIA Shadowplay, Grid Cloud Gaming, Console Mode, Gamepad Mapper and Tegra Zone. The Shield Tablet will provide a video output of 4K Ultra-HD in console mode which is amazing while the cameras include a front 5 Megapixel HDR and a rear 5 Megapixel auto-focus HDR. The Wi-Fi range is 802.11 a/b/g/n 2×2 MIMO (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz) and additional connectivity options include Bluetooth v4.0 LE, GPS and a 9 axis G-Sensor. The Tablet also supports Micro-Sim and a Micro SD card which can expand storage up to additional 128 GB. Battery life is said to last 10 hours is HD video playback and offered by a 19.75 Watt / hour lithium ion cell. There’s also Mini HDMI 1.4a and Micro-USB 2.0 with host and device support. NVIDIA aims to deliver OTA updates directly from their servers so that your device carries the latest firmware and OS updates directly from the manufacturer.
The wireless controller or the Shield controller is an interesting addition to the Shield Tablet. The original shield did come with its own controller but this time, since we are looking at a tablet form factor, NVIDIA decided to offer the controller as an add-on at a price of $59. It comes with Wi-Fi connectivity and includes built-in stereo headphones with headphone and microphone jack. Micro-USB 2.0 connector for charging and wired gaming. It has several buttons which are used for input and comes with a rechargeable Li-Ion cell. The Wireless controller is not only compatible with the tablet but the portable shield too. In terms of performance, the Tegra K1 is faster than its competitors featuring all the great technology support of Kepler GPUs such as OpenGL ES 3.1, AEP, OpenGL 4.4, DirectX 12 API, Tessellation, CUDA 6.0 and a power consumption of less than 2W which is mind blowing. May you use it as a console, as a handheld device, as a streaming box or a personal smartphone, the Shield tablet is definitely a formidable opponent in the tablet industry. :
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I am definetly interested on it but I do not yet understand what market they are targeting with a tablet. I do not see a reason for me to pick up the tablet over the Shield to play games other than the processor and bigger screen(1080p).

It will be a killer tablet, but I can already get games to work fine with different controllers with my Note 2014.
Still prefer the Shield for integrated controller, but this does look like a killer tablet.
16gb for the wifi ONE YEAR later is an absolute insult for a serious gaming device. Most will likely hold out for the 32gb LTE version.

I kind of want it but more of as an upgrade for my Note 10.1, 2012. Hopefully the stylus is decent. I'm still hoping for an xperia play like device though (built-in controller). Hopefully the LTE works in my country.

Well I would have much rather enjoyed a device with built-in gamepad, but I am ready to start throwing my $$$ at my computer screen. If I can pre-order this device, I probably will.

I'm late to the Shield party, but I want this tablet. K1 and 1080p is where I want to be for emulation.

I'm going to be buying this as a present for a family member.
here is hoping that it will be easy to root because I need SU access to do some work on it for em.

I'm all over this. I'd prefer 4:3 as I'm mainly using it for browsing/reading but I guess I'll take 16:10 since I can't find a 4:3 tablet I'd want.
I was waiting for the Nexus 8/9 but who knows when that's coming, could be waiting forever like the people waiting for the next Nexus 10.
Looking forward to getting this next week!

yeah we just ordered one tonight for 331 shipped.
it claims on other sources that the processing power is higher than a ps3 and xbox 360 respectively, pair that with the 120gb sd card micro slot and the amazing screen with crystal clear visibility and contrast ratio. this is the best tablet we're going to see for a while.
also wanted to mention that the stylus is very good from what i've seen. its included in the bundle too.

I can't seem to find the lte version anywhere for pre-order. I wonder if it's compatible with T-Mobile.
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I wonder if Trine 2 works with the original Shield, I'm guessing it's probably not, i think it's exclusive to the K1, but still...

I dropped a pre-order on this about half an hour after the announcement, long enough to read a bit of the press, but I was pretty much always grabbing this day one.

wifesabitch said:
I'm all over this. I'd prefer 4:3 as I'm mainly using it for browsing/reading but I guess I'll take 16:10 since I can't find a 4:3 tablet I'd want.
I was waiting for the Nexus 8/9 but who knows when that's coming, could be waiting forever like the people waiting for the next Nexus 10.
Looking forward to getting this next week!
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1. We need a new Shield Tablet section
2. Q - Does the LTE Version have a telephone funktion?
3. Q - Are the Controller WIFI and Internet Wifi working simultaneously? Would be a major design flaw if they wouldn't...
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NZtechfreak said:
I'm late to the Shield party, but I want this tablet. K1 and 1080p is where I want to be for emulation.
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More like 1440p !!!

mudflap2.0 said:
More like 1440p !!!
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Nope, I want 1080p. Perfectly sufficient for gaming, higher resolution just taxes GPU more in emulation. Also higher resolutions will be wasted on for me for quite sometime as they will have no relevance for mirroring as I plan to stick to 1080p TV and monitors for some time yet.

NZtechfreak said:
Nope, I want 1080p. Perfectly sufficient for gaming, higher resolution just taxes GPU more in emulation. Also higher resolutions will be wasted for me for quite sometime as they will have no relevance for mirroring as I plan to stick to 1080p TV and monitors for some time yet.
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I was just saying as the shield tablet has a 1440p screen resolution, as for the GPU, its basically a mobile gtx 780, so its not taxing, it gets 45k+ on antutu, its powerful enough, if you use a resolution changer, you can see original shield can play fluent 1080p gaming (on one f'ing core) according to the core analyzer i used, only one game had performance issues, which was dead trigger 2 max settings 1080p, as for emulation, a tricking Samsung gear can play any kind of emulator, come on, unless you are using ppsspp, no android device can seem to keep up with that emulator at a stabl framerate

mudflap2.0 said:
I was just saying as the shield tablet has a 1440p screen resolution, as for the GPU, its basically a mobile gtx 780, so its not taxing, it gets 45k+ on antutu, its powerful enough, if you use a resolution changer, you can see original shield can play fluent 1080p gaming (on one f'ing core) according to the core analyzer i used, only one game had performance issues, which was dead trigger 2 max settings 1080p, as for emulation, a tricking Samsung gear can play any kind of emulator, come on, unless you are using ppsspp, no android device can seem to keep up with that emulator at a stabl framerate
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Um, the Shield tablet does not have a 1440p resolution. It's 1920x1200 (and mirrors at 1080p in console mode).
Regards emulation, yes I am using PPSSPP and I look forward to seeing what the K1 can do with it (at 1080p). Also, I look forward to seeing Dolphin run Gamecube games on the K1, and again, I don't want to lose performance for a needlessly higher screen resolution in these more demanding emulation situations (check YouTube for videos from the Dolphin dev using a straight port of it on a K1 development board, already in that unoptimised state looking pretty good with some games like Mario Kart)..

hi guys
I want to ask a question about this tablet as they are very concerned.
i want to know if the new shield tablet LTE is able to make and receive telephone calls in italy.
WHAT CELLULAR NETWORKS DOES THE SHIELD TABLET LTE SUPPORT?
There are three versions of SHIELD tablet LTE. There is a North American version that works on AT&T, T-Mobile and Rogers on LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 7, and 17 and HSPA bands 1, 2, 4, 5.
There is a second International version that works on popular European and Asian networks. It supports LTE bands 3, 7, 20 and HSPA+ bands 1, 2, 5, 8.
The third version also works on popular International carriers, in addition to including voice support on compatible networks. It supports LTE bands 1, 3, 7, 20 and HSPA+ bands 1, 2, 5, 8.
Check with your favorite carrier to verify coverage in your area.
DOES THE SHIELD TABLET LTE SUPPORT VOICE?
There is a version of the international SKU that supports voice on compatible networks, available for purchase in select regions.

Flyer.michael said:
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---------- Post added at 11:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 AM ----------
1. We need a new Shield Tablet section
2. Q - Does the LTE Version have a telephone funktion?
3. Q - Are the Controller WIFI and Internet Wifi working simultaneously? Would be a major design flaw if they wouldn't...
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1080p is perfect for an 8" device for gaming. Much better battery life and performance.

Ordered a Tegra Note from newegg. Deal was too hard to pass up. Also Pre-ordered this bad boy! Now that i have been thinking about it, i might not keep the TN7, either return or sell new in box never opened.
Release date is just around the corner! Getting Excited!

Tronsmart Orion R28 RK3288 Cortex A7 Quad Core TV BOX Discuss

Just saw this from my google+, finally there is reputation brand to release the rk3288 model.
Tronsmart Orion R28 will be the company’s first model to feature a Rockchip RK3288 ARM Cortex-A17 processor, there should be three version for this model. Pro,Meta, Telos. they will release the Pro and meta at first, the following three things make orion r28 unusual:
Fully SDK open for geeks/developers to help improve the software in future;
Built in OTA function (over the air software update ), so customers don't need to worry how to flash the firmware;
4GB Telos is really a plus for the guy who want to run Linux or ubuntu on it.
Now there is the presale on geek buying, you can see it here
http://promotion.geekbuying.com/promotion/tronsmart_rk3288_mini_pc_release
I have grab one, and once i get, will share my first thought with you guys.
Update on 6th Sep:
Antutu screenshot:
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Tronsmart Orion r28 coming with rooted
Output screen resolution. because my TV don't support 4K @60HZ, so i just can see the max screen resolution is 4K @30hz. it will auto detected my TV resolution when i first connect; 1080P 24hz is great
About audio output, it support PCM, spdif passthrough, and hdmi passthrough, test the spdif passthrough via xbmc, It can work well.
and let's keep talking the Tronsmart Orion R28 in this thread, the reviews, the problem feedback, the root method, firmware etc. i will keep updated the post.

Tronsmart Orion R28
Tronsmart Orion R28 is really a powerful Android tv box which reaches a new level with the strongest quad core CPU - RK3288. But it seems haven't be listed yet.

I shall be one of the recipients of the first batch of the R28 Meta, which has just been shipped, so looking forward to testing, evaluation, posting reviews and having a look at the included SDK.

Hey there, i am very interested into this box _and_ the prior one too.
To be exactly: Tronsmart Vega S89-H Amlogic S802-H
The Amlogic S802-H CPU has DTS and Dolby hardware decoding, does the RK3288 have this too?
More basically, is this needed? Or can i watch/hear my movies anyway?
I know one big difference between the two is that rk3288 supports H.265, isn't that only a question about installed codecs?
If you could choose, which chip you would prefer? I was about to order the S89-H but then i found the Orion R28 and now i am confused which one i should choose
Another thing (not that important) ... Does the Orion have custom roms or is anyone already working on one?
The S89-H works much nicer after Finless (Bob) made his Finless Rom for it. So I hope that will happen to the Orion as well.
Thanks in advance

houston_ said:
Hey there, i am very interested into this box _and_ the prior one too.
To be exactly: Tronsmart Vega S89-H Amlogic S802-H
The Amlogic S802-H CPU has DTS and Dolby hardware decoding, does the RK3288 have this too?
More basically, is this needed? Or can i watch/hear my movies anyway?
I know one big difference between the two is that rk3288 supports H.265, isn't that only a question about installed codecs?
If you could choose, which chip you would prefer? I was about to order the S89-H but then i found the Orion R28 and now i am confused which one i should choose
Another thing (not that important) ... Does the Orion have custom roms or is anyone already working on one?
The S89-H works much nicer after Finless (Bob) made his Finless Rom for it. So I hope that will happen to the Orion as well.
Thanks in advance
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Tronsmart Vega S89 has released for a while, and there are tons of custom rom which support it. also after the develop, now most of bugs have been solved. and the most import the Amlogic chip support XBMC well.
Tronsmart Orion R28 is the new products. Geekbuying just release first bulk for 200pcs for geekers and test, and want them to improve them, so for custom roms, don't worry, i think the developers are already working on it. RK3288 GPU is Mali T764, which is better a lot than Mali 450 which used in amlogic S802. so for 3d gaming, the rk3288 is better a lot than amlogic s802.
If you don't hurry, then wait the factory, and developer to make the Tronsmart Orion r28 better. if you mainly use it for media streaming (xbmc), then you can get Tronsmart Vega S89-H.

Well then I will wait for the Orion, especially the Telos version. If the price isn't much higher than the meta I will take that one. Maybe the meta will get a price drop on release of the Telos.
I want the box mainly for watching movies.
(can I even plug a external USB hard drive on the box? Or do I need to create a nas?)
Right now I am sitting with a Netgear NeoTV 550... Piece of crap...
Netgear decided to drop support while there were many bugs and system crashes reported... But playing movies is okay xD
Thanks for your message, that was a nice summary
Br Stimmenhotel

How's the wifi performance? The 5ghz band in particular...

Does this (or any) Android PC have the USB/Serial driver built in the kernel? that is one thing I need in a Android PC/Stick

Orion r28 meta
so far so good smooth operation remote control is basic however once you get used to it it's better than most other Android remotes the music player is nice Android 4.4 kit kat looks great on here I use it for XBMC there is only one XBMC apk that works petfectly with this box and even the amazon fire tv its KODI Helix alpha version from the great Keyan from team Kodi can be found online it was compiled for the unreleased Android TV box I'll report back with any hiccups but everything is pretty good better than most other Android boxes I've ever tested too early to compare it to the amazon fire tv but im thinking that way still the more testing involved but so far pleasantly surprised I'm using an Ethernet connection so I'll try using the dual WiFi AC with my dlink AC router I'll report back soon

houston_ said:
Hey there, i am very interested into this box _and_ the prior one too.
To be exactly: Tronsmart Vega S89-H Amlogic S802-H
The Amlogic S802-H CPU has DTS and Dolby hardware decoding, does the RK3288 have this too?
More basically, is this needed? Or can i watch/hear my movies anyway?
I know one big difference between the two is that rk3288 supports H.265, isn't that only a question about installed codecs?
If you could choose, which chip you would prefer? I was about to order the S89-H but then i found the Orion R28 and now i am confused which one i should choose
Another thing (not that important) ... Does the Orion have custom roms or is anyone already working on one?
The S89-H works much nicer after Finless (Bob) made his Finless Rom for it. So I hope that will happen to the Orion as well.
Thanks in advance
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The new released Tronsmart Orion R28 has three versions(you can see this web, iandroidtvbox.com)the Pro version, the Meta version and later will has a Beta version. The three version have different configurations. If compared with Tronsmart Orion R28 Pro, the S89-H has a better overall performance. But, if take the S89-H and Orion R28 Meta to compare, the latter has higher performance.

when will we find a stable version of rk3288?
and when will it arrive the orginal android tv of google?
i am waiting for android tv..
i would like that rk3288 will be upgrade at android L or android tv..

the incredible said:
when will we find a stable version of rk3288?
and when will it arrive the orginal android tv of google?
i am waiting for android tv..
i would like that rk3288 will be upgrade at android L or android tv..
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The problem with AV and Android seems to be the incapability of the pass-through of dts and similar.
(If somebody knows that better than me, just correct me ?)
According to the specs of Android TV it should be compatible with that.
Also something about frame sync is not supported till then...
I will link you to three very interesting post, one about xbmx on rk3288 boxes, one about the rk3288 boxes and one especially for the tronsmart.
But I am mobile and need to collect the links first ? BRB
Edit:// here you go
Latest news about the rk3288
http://www.FreakTab.com/showthread.php?t=14087
About the Tronsmart (Issues, etc)
http://www.FreakTab.com/showthread.php?t=16484
Xbmx apk (Android) on rk3288
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=202924
(there should be another thread about Xbmx Linux on these boxes... But haven't found yet. If Linux Xbmx should be possible, all these limitations of Android are for the past, but the box is running Xbmx only and not Android)

houston_ said:
I will link you to three very interesting post, one about xbmx on rk3288 boxes, one about the rk3288 boxes and one especially for the tronsmart.
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Thank you, these posts were quite useful.
Any ideas when the 4GB version will be released?

I asked the guy from geek buying, but September is long gone...
Never had a new information.
But according to the posts on one of the threads, the development of the software makes good progress.

Samsung TV doesn't recognize R28-SOLVED
Hello I just received the R28 I purchased from Geekbuying.com. I am having issues with my Samsung Smart TV (model un7250) not recognizing the R28. I have tried all of the HDMI ports, and none of them recognize it. I get a black screen and the TV says there is no source. These ports are confirmed working with other devices. I also have a Toshiba TV, which is able to recognize the R28 no problems. Does anyone know why the Samsung TV isn't able to recognize the R28? Very frustrating as I want it on the Samsung and not the Toshiba. Thanks!
SOLUTION:
In setting Picture > Picture Options > HDMI UHD Color > Slect whatever HDMI port your box is using > Follow onscreen instructions. Done!

Htcuser8740 said:
Hello I just received the R28 I purchased from Geekbuying.com. I am having issues with my Samsung Smart TV (model un7250) not recognizing the R28. I have tried all of the HDMI ports, and none of them recognize it. I get a black screen and the TV says there is no source. These ports are confirmed working with other devices. I also have a Toshiba TV, which is able to recognize the R28 no problems. Does anyone know why the Samsung TV isn't able to recognize the R28? Very fruterating as I want it on the Samsung and not the Toshiba. Thanks!
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These troubles are not unknown...
You bought a beta device.
Try posting your problem here:
http://www.FreakTab.com/showthread.php?t=16484
Oman is the one in charge of development.
Maybe you could find there the link to the tronsmart forum too. They should have a newer kernel and version.
I am not actively watching the progress anymore, since it is still a device in early stages of development, it seems...

houston_ said:
These troubles are not unknown...
You bought a beta device.
Try posting your problem here:
http://www.FreakTab.com/showthread.php?t=16484
Oman is the one in charge of development.
Maybe you could find there the link to the tronsmart forum too. They should have a newer kernel and version.
I am not actively watching the progress anymore, since it is still a device in early stages of development, it seems...
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Oh boy arent I a moron. I didnt realize it was a beta version. I have no right messing with something like that. Im not exactly tech savy. The extent of my knowledge is im able to root a phone and flash roms. I did come across the forums on tronsmart.com and posted there. I will try freaktab tomorrow as im in bed. Thanks for your reply, I appreciate the help. Now I feel like I am way out of my relm. Haha. But seriously thanks! Sounds like a great devuce if only I could run it on my tv.

Yeah, it really sound like a great deal...
But not at the moment xD
I am already waiting on something like this since Netgear dropped support of their neo TV 550.
Similar thing to the tronsmart, they released a half finished product but dropped support while it still was full of bugs and errors... Already a few more years ago xD

Im verry intrested in this box but im having trouble to find the differences between the pro and meta version.
Booth have hdmi 2.0.
Anybody knows the differences between them as there is a small price difference.
If the meta(15 euro more expensive) is better i would spent the extra 15 euro.
I would use it as xbmc player with some extra repos.

Mister_Mini said:
Im verry intrested in this box but im having trouble to find the differences between the pro and meta version.
Booth have hdmi 2.0.
Anybody knows the differences between them as there is a small price difference.
If the meta(15 euro more expensive) is better i would spent the extra 15 euro.
I would use it as xbmc player with some extra repos.
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Meta has faster EMMC and more storage 16gb as opposed to 8gb on the pro version.
Dual band wifi (AC)
Dual channel memory.
XBMC stutters a bit...it's improved on the newest firmware. But you can slap a custom rom on it and it's smooth as butter.
Where it really shines is it sports a mali-t764 as opposed to a mali-400 which non rk3288 devices come with.
Basically it does much better at games than any other android box. It's still considered a new chip, so there are some issues with xbmc, but there's an alternative on the google play store, called SPMC.
For it's Price, it's very good. There are better rk3288 devices out there, but it gets expensive.

PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1

UPDATE 8/1 2015
UNBOXING video:
REVIEW video:
3D GAMING, HDMI & WIRELESS DISPLAY TEST
Tips:
- To enter BIOS, connect keyboard via OTG, at boot start press ESC + CAPSLOCK
- To access advanced startup options in Windows 8 or 8.1, hold VOL down plus POWER
- Download latest display drivers here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24345
(especially do this update, if you have problems to wake the tablet from sleep sometimes, should fix it)
PiPO W2F Disassembly Pictures here
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6108053155867182961
Drivers:
http://pipo.cn/En/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&id=360&type=2
Want to use OTG and Charge it at the same time?
Then you need one of these
http://aliexpress.com/item/Universa...inkpad-8-X98-M80ta-WT-8-Miix2/2038609573.html
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Hey
What do you guys think about the PiPO W2F 8 inch Tablet Intel Z3735F Quad Core Windows 8.1? I saw it to a nice price at Gearbest. It comes with 2GB RAM and 32GB ROM that seems to be okay for a 8 inch tablet. It also has support for HDMI and OTG which I find very important for a tablet.
Due to Chinese manufacturers, the market of mobile electronic devices overflowed by cheap Windows 8 tablets. Devices of well-known brands cannot compete with the same quality, but lower prices of Chinese products. The famous Hong Kong brand PiPO presented 8-inch Windows tablet PiPO W2F.
The 5MP camera lens and stereo speaker’s grilles are located on the back cover. The Start button and volume lever are on the long side. On the shorter fringe located interface connectors: 3.5 mm audio, microUSB / OTG, miniHDMI, power jack, the microphone hole, slot for TF card and On button.
The screen also impressive. It is based on IPS matrix with resolution 1280x800px. Display supports ten-finger multitouch and reproduces pictures, videos and dynamic games with reasonable quality.
The basis of W2’s hardware is the quad-core Intel Atom Z3735F, made on 22 nm technology process. It clocked at 1.8 GHz and appropriate to Windows.
Video System integrated into processor’s cores and supports high-quality graphics in mid-class games. The RAM reaches 2GB. The tablet can simultaneously perform multiple tasks due to good balance of a hardware. With PiPO W2F users can listen a music, read e-books, work with documents and communicate in chats. The tablet can support all online games, and many other ones, except games, requiring a strong hardware and discrete graphic card.
The internal SSD storage capacity is 32 GB. Volume of memory can be increased by using the TF card. OTG interface allows you to connect a mouse, keyboard, external hard drive and other devices to the tablet. PiPO W2F can be charged from a computer or laptop via USB.
Wide range of Windows 8.1 applications and Office 365 with an annual subscription will make a work with PiPO W2F more comfortable and efficient.
PiPO W2F has FM-receiver, and all necessary sensors. The tablet can play high quality music and video.
With HDMI interface, the tablet turns to a video player by connecting it to a TV or home theater. Wireless technologies are implemented in the tablet via Wi-Fi 802.11 b / g / n and Bluetooth modules. The device has no GPS, because it is a feature of W line of PiPO gadgets.
The battery capacity of 4500 mAh ensures continuous operation of the device up to 9 hours in active mode, or two days in standby mode.
PiPO W2F – the device with good performance, which is runs on the latest Windows 8.1 system with an annual subscription to Office 365. It seems to be a best buy at the market.​
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Teclast X80h is the answer. Drop all the other chinese brands apart from Teclast. In Russia Teclast is by far the most popular one. Imagine why.

Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.

s7yler said:
Post #1 also now updated with a video of the PiPO W2F, so far it is running good, I also own the Voyo Winpad A1 Mini, but the W2F is thinner and for some reason actually better to hold in the hand.
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Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)

penxo said:
Hi! I am very interested in buying the Pipo W2F but I have some questions,
Have you found a good case for it? because I'm not able to find anyone.
What tablet do you prefer? Do you recommend it? (Voyo, teclast, Honda...)
Are you happy with this tablet?
Could you take some photos with both cameras?
And the last question,would you wait to Cherry Trail? (new Intel processor)
Thanks a lot!
(Srry about my English)
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I have not found a case for it sorry. I like this PiPO very much and happy with it, but the Voyo is also good (but higher priced).
To be honest, the camera is nothing special, only ok for a little Skype etc. don't expect too much from cameras in tablets.
I would not wait for the Cherry Trail, because there will always come something new, and then you can wait forever.

I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.

penxo said:
I've been thinking of buying Pipo w2 because the processor is better.... Thanks for your answer.
Because the USB of W2 is 3.0 and PiPo W2F USB port is 2.0.
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Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.

yes I know by the way I've just found that Chuwi is going to release his Chuwi Vi8 Super Edition, it comes with HDMI and dual boot with android 4.4.4....
Thanks for your reply!

s7yler said:
Ye if you want to pay some more then you could go for the W2 I guess, but the difference is not big, they are almost the same.
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Actually I have the PIPO W2 with the USB 3.0. Despite the driver stating it is an USB3.0 I had tested with several USB 3 thumbdrive,hard disk and all but none of them work at USB 3 speed. .__." bummer~

I have this and teclast, prefer pipo

zorroloko said:
I have this and teclast, prefer pipo
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happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this

gxthelord said:
happy to see other users out there. I tot I was the only one using this
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I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post

x1rocket said:
I ordered one 9 days ago and waiting to receive it from china post
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Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^

gxthelord said:
Nice~! do let the community know how is it when u get it. ^^ been happy with it.
Also here's something u can do with it to kill time too. ^^
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will do hopefully its not stolen or defected like I have heard in other forums

hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??

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hi all
i am interested in buying this tab too
but what about drivers ?
from where to get ??
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what drivers? do you mean where to buy it?

no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????

Strange portrait mode forced onto secondary display
Anybody with the W2F experiencing problems with the secondary display being forced into portrait mode when connecting via HDMI? Not sure if it is a problem with windows or the tab (I have an Asus T100 as well and have never had this happen before).
Thanks a lot for those review videos, they really helped me make up my mind :good::good:

mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Drivers pipo. cn/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&type=2&id=360
2.q: USB

mokajengy said:
no
i mean drivers for video card , for sound etc
drivers !!!!! ITS AWINDOWS RIGHT !!
i have another q
from where to charge it??
from usb port or DC Jack like pipo w2?????????
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Most of the drivers will be downloaded automatically from Windows Update, or are included in Windows.
You charge it from the USB port, it is fast enough even if you use it.

CHUWI Lapbook SE - 13.3" IPS FHD | Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake) | 4GB | 32GB + 128GB

CHUWI Lapbook SE - 13.3" IPS FHD | Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake) | 4GB | 32GB + 128GB
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Display: 13.3" IPS Fully laminated, 1920x1080*
* SHARP LQ133M1JW08
CPU: Intel Celeron N4100 (Gemini Lake)
RAM: 4GB DDR4 2133MHz (Single-Channel)
* 1x4GB DDR4 2400MHz running at 2133MHz (S5RG2Q20CMS?)
eMMC: Sandisk DF4032 32GB*
* Speed: ~157 Read [MB/s] and ~113 Write [MB/s]
SSD: M.2 2280 SATA3 FORESEE FSGGMNC-128G 128GB*
* Speed: ~537 Read [MB/s] and ~439 Write [MB/s]
Audio Codec: Realtek HD Audio (can't find the precise model)
WiFi/Bluetooth: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165
Sensors: Hall Sensor
Touchpad: Hantick HTIX5288 (recognized as Precision Touchpad)
Ports: 2x USB 3.0 (one for each side, both running at full speed), 1x Mini-HDMI 2.0 Output, 1x Headphone Jack
SD Card Reader: Realtek RTS5129 (USB 2.0)
Security: Trusted Platform Module 2.0
Front-facing Camera: 2.0MP Photos - 720p30 Videos (Generic USB)
Speakers: 4x (declared, not confirmed yet) with the sound coming out of the Keyboard
Battery: 2x 3.8V/5000 mAh cells = 7.6V 38Wh* (37Wh from the BIOS)
* Guangdong Pow-Tech New Power - PT 2877164-2S (2ICP3/77/164)
Power Supply: Xinspower A241-1202000D DC 12V/2A 3.5mm*10mm
Operating System: Windows 10 Home x64 (Multi-language)
* Genuine License
Real Weight: 1441g
Real Size: 31.7 x 21.6 x 1.43 cm
Extras: Backlit Keyboard and Logo, Aluminum Chassis with Plastic
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Internals:
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Drivers:
Archive (07/09/2018)
Older Packages:
None yet.
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Extra:
Official Website:
CHUWI Lapbook SE at chuwi.com
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Based on @Wootever thread layout.

Backlight Bleeding issue
Just like what happened in the past with the CHUWI Lapbook Air (1st batch, latest ones are not affected), also the Lapbook SE is affected by the same annoying issue. Basically, you need to be lucky in order to get a unit with a perfectly glued screen until they fix the issue in the production line.
Full-quality photo album here: https://imgur.com/a/1pGcJ3S

Thermal Mod
Since this PC was reaching almost 90c under heavy-load with the locked 6W TDP, I decided to go ahead and open it. Unfortunately, many bad surprises came out.
ALERT: Be careful, there are some hidden screws that made me crazy while opening it since my Lapbook Air was not featuring them.
First of all, there was no thermal pad between the heatsink and the metal chassis (the one you see here has been added by me as a test).
Second, the heatsink seems to be recycled from another motherboard, but this is just the beginning. Due to this, the coating used to shield the Metal from the Motherboard was behaving as a barrier for the heat.
So, the only way to fix this mess is by removing the coating from both heatsink and metal chassis (because yes, they insulated also that). I used some abrasive paper (P400) to remove most of the coating.
The thermal pad has been replaced with thermal paste (Kyronaut by Thermal Grizzly).
By doing this process i have discovered that the thermal pad i used as test on the heatsink was too thin (0.5mm) so i have switched to something probably overkill (1.5mm), both pads were high-performance ones BTW for the best results.
Funny story, 1.5mm resulted to not be overkill at all because there is also a design issue with this heatsink, that is not being perfectly flat thus the distance between the die and the heatsink itself is quite big so this extra thickness of the 1.5mm Thermal Pad worked perfectly. NOTE: I would recommend to go for a copper pad instead of a thermal pad but i don't have any thermal adhesive so i decided to go for something safe.
Done! As a result of this process, temps dropped by ~10C at 6W, reaching maximum 65c under Prime95 maximum heat test.
Full-quality photo album can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/2Yi24vL​

For those interested, even though it is possible to disable Power Limit 1 in the BIOS, the setting is ignored and the maximum power usage keeps getting limited to 6W. XTU is not working either (blank tab).

For those interested, even though it is possible to disable Power Limit 1 in the BIOS, the setting is ignored and the maximum power usage keeps getting limited to 6W. XTU is not working either (blank tab).
By using ThrottleStop it is possible to unlock power limits properly: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/
The problem is that temps get too high even with the thermal mod, i may consider liquid metal as next experiment.

Update regarding my Thermal mod. I was not satisfied with the result so proceeded and this is what i had to do.
First of all, i switched to liquid metal (Conductonaut) so i had to insulate almost the whole motherboard.
Then, as you can see here, a small piece of heatsink has been removed since, due to the design flaw, it was causing it to be bent improperly with poor contact with the die.
The result is unfortunately not superb, but i am now able to stay with power limits unlocked (via Throttlestop) with no/minimum thermal throttling.

2160p60 Playback with no Power Limits

windows 10 on ssd
Hi, I've seen that the SSD is faster than the emmc. do you know if it is possible to install Windows 10 on the ssd?

Willower said:
Hi, I've seen that the SSD is faster than the emmc. do you know if it is possible to install Windows 10 on the ssd?
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Yep, why not? It is handled just like a secondary drive.

Chromium OS
Chromium OS for Lapbook SE
This is a release candidate and the final release will be more polished and with a working built-in installer.
Downloads:
Chromium OS 68 Image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N8qNpLruVz3gJieWwReb2fqe-lirqUJ9/view?usp=sharing
Installation: Depending on the destination device, you may have to follow different installation guides.
- Internal SSD (for permanent installation): in order to avoid issues, you need Linux, so choose your preferred distro and boot it (a live USB is fine, you don't need to install it). Then follow this video guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N17rPCj9ye8
- USB Devices (HDD/SSD/Flash Drives, for portable installation also known as Live USB, 16GB minimum): you can use both Windows and Linux. For Windows, just download Rufus (https://rufus.akeo.ie/), choose your USB device, tick DD mode (instead of ISO) and proceed. For Linux, the video guide linked for the Internal SSD installation can be followed.
Known Bugs:
- Unavailable tap to click (the hardware click button works fine though)
- Broken Chromium OS Installer (disabled to avoid complains)
FAQ:
- Question: I can't find the Play Store as seen on Chromebooks, where is it?
- Answer: You won't find it until Google decides to make this feature available to the public.
- Question: The Laptop is stuttering and stops responding for a while, please help.
- Answer: It means that your External USB Device is painfully slow and have to consider to get a faster USB 3.0 device to avoid this.
- Question: Is the current image source-built? If yes, where is the kernel source as requested by GPL?
- Answer: No, the current release candidate build is based on another already built image thus i have no source code for it. I am waiting for the public source release in fix all remaining issues plus make the source code available.

Wow the maximum power usage is insane without any power limit enabled. Almost 21W without any active cooling is just too much to handle, i was lucky to get only a maximum of 85c thanks to my extreme thermal mod but i can't recommend to keep power limits completely off without doing it.

Hi
thanks for the detailed information regarding this laptop
I would like to know if you have tried upgrading the SSD, specifically if it'll be able to boot from an NVMe M.2 SSD?
hope to hear from you soon. Thanks

SSD
Alberto96 said:
Yep, why not? It is handled just like a secondary drive.
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I intend to put a new SSD of 240 or 500gb could you suggest some models that have a high reading and work on this handset?

vkashin said:
Hi
thanks for the detailed information regarding this laptop
I would like to know if you have tried upgrading the SSD, specifically if it'll be able to boot from an NVMe M.2 SSD?
hope to hear from you soon. Thanks
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Yes, already tested.
tekadon said:
I intend to put a new SSD of 240 or 500gb could you suggest some models that have a high reading and work on this handset?
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I don't know your budget so i can't recommend you a specific model, Samsung SSDs are the best on the market as far as i know. BTW, any M.2 2280 SATA (not PCIe!) SSD will work on this device.

Ssd
Alberto96 said:
Yes, already tested.
I don't know your budget so i can't recommend you a specific model, Samsung SSDs are the best on the market as far as i know. BTW, any M.2 2280 SATA (not PCIe!) SSD will work on this device.
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My budget is 110 dollars Just let me know the names. I live in Brazil so the values ​​vary a lot. I wanted a high reading. I found one of Kingston a1000 among others. But I'm confused by this SSD issue. I bought one but it is wrong, I ended up buying a SSD pcie So I would recommend some models to me.

tekadon said:
My budget is 110 dollars Just let me know the names. I live in Brazil so the values ​​vary a lot. I wanted a high reading. I found one of Kingston a1000 among others. But I'm confused by this SSD issue. I bought one but it is wrong, I ended up buying a SSD pcie So I would recommend some models to me.
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Samsung 860 EVO M.2

Does somebody found a way to make camera work in Linux?

Hi, what settings do you have to change in TS in order to remove power limits on the N4100?
Thank you in advance.

Noob quick question
I majorly f-ed up my Chuwi SE. I thought I successfully cloned it to the 128 SSD, then deleted the eMMC. But, I now get this blue error screen.
Anyhoo. I'm trying to reinstall windows using the drivers the OP posted (thanks), and the windows + bios files on the chuwi site (slow going. Keeps getting network errors while dloading...). [sry, can't post outside link as I'm a new member. It is located on the official chuwi forums]
ANyway, my question. After I install windows (fingers crossed). How do I install the bios files that I downloaded from the chuwi forum? I downloaded them and they appear to be 4-5 different .efi files scattered about. How do I use these files, and do I need to install all of them? Many thanks in advance.

Hello... Post an HD photo of the motherboard, I'm interested to see the type of RAM installed

New to Android in car .. Ideas for better performance and a few tweaks ...

I have recently got my first android HU, its to go in my 2010 Audi S3.. it's this one ...
eBay item number:173701634590
I've got it wired up on my test bench to a PSU ,i've set up a launcher how I like it, set up waze navigation, spotify, and apple music (as well as torque for the widgets).
I'm reluctant to put it in my car, even though it's far more capable than my factory unit, its sooo slow! Boot time is like 10+ seconds, then once booted each app takes ~10 seconds to open on their first run, and apple music is always very slow even once opened. So I will be half way down the road before I have navigation or music working properly.
After about a minute of running once everything is in RAM, its not so bad, fairly snappy apart from Apple music.
It's just not up to the job if you ask me, and I would happily pay 3 times the price for one that is as its capabilities are brilliant, just not performance.
It's a quad core with 2GB RAM and 16gb Storage. They recently released a new version (after I ordered mine) with 8 cores 2gb RAM and 32gb storage, is it going to be much better ? it needs to be at least 4 times faster to make it usable when I jump in the car.
I wonder if I could utilise the display and housing and have a high end flagship smart phone (say my samsung note 8 I m abut to replace for example) connected to that LCD and touchscreen and amplifier etc, its not something I could do myself but if possible I would be happy to pay a professional, the system would be very fast then would it not? however things line canbus talking etc would need to be reverse engineered and made to work.
Or I wonder if I could use the internals of the very newest Joying unit (4gb RAM) inside the chassis of mine an that would be suitable. Or could I possibly upgrade the internal storage to something much faster (and/or bigger).
Another thought on top of all of this is why does it need to shut down at all, why can't it just power off its amplifiers and sleep like a tablet would, a tablet has the apps still in RAM when you come back to use it next time. Can we perhaps work out a way to modify it to do this? I need to open it and see if the amp is a seperate circuit which can be relayed from the ACC on its own, and then put in something along the lines of an Anker power bank to run the rest of the unit in sleep mode when the ignition is off. Any thoughts on the possibilities of this ?
Other than performance I have 2 other complaints ... The bluetooth app for using hands free is ugly and clunky, it hogs the screen during a call, cant even minimise it to go back to navigation, is there a better one, ideally one that integrates with the rest of the system better. Or is there an API I can use to build one... or documentation for accessing the hardware I can use to build one ?
DAB was similar but DAB-z seems much better.
Also I seem to have Access Touch permanently enabled on so I have a n annoying floating button constantly, there is no settings option to turn it off like you would expect under display or accessibility or something.
Any feedback / input / collaboration appreciated, after all if we find ways to improve things it helps us all.

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2GB Ram and Android 8.1 combination, there lays the performance problem. Android 7 runs smoother on 2 Gb units.
I would suggest flashing it with Hal9k_mod Rom's and using microG framework !

erion_vl said:
2GB Ram and Android 8.1 combination, there lays the performance problem. Android 7 runs smoother on 2 Gb units.
I would suggest flashing it with Hal9k_mod Rom's and using microG framework !
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Thanks I will get onto that.
I would prefer better hardware though .. do you know of any with 4gb+ ram and a good processor that is the same form factor as mine ?
Thanks.

It's not the 2GB memory. 2GB is more than sufficient for Android 8.x (although 4GB is better). If you use large games or the (akward) facebook, you need more memory. For a car unit 2GB is good. I have 2GB and I did actual memory tests: I never had an issue.
It is the too old T3 processor that is the performance issue. That one is very slow. You should have looked to faster processors like the Alwinner T8 or Rockchip PX5. or the new PX6 or Intel Airmont.
Edit: Never take an android 7 unit. All these units are either running on the old Alwinner T3 or the old Rockchip PX3 (RK3188) or the old MediaTek cpu (forgot the type).

Thanks for the input, I seem very limited in my form factor, can you find one with a better CPU and if possible more RAM?
I would like to use apple music which is RAM hungry, but I've uninstalled it for now. Spotify is doing OK, just lacks some content.
Can I transplant another unit into my chassis for better reprformance perhaps?

https://www.joyingauto.com/head-unit/a-g/audi.html (universal, not audi specific)
https://www.seicane.com/oem-android...vr-1080p-video-steering-wheel-control-s018796
https://xtrons.com/audi/audi-a3-s3-rs3-android-car-stereo.html
https://www.eonon.com/Car-Type/Audi.html
and more if you search

Thanks for that but the only reason I've finally gone android is becaue they now make one which is pretty much all screen for my car finally! , the fake audi nav looking ones look and feel awful (seen them in friends cars) and the universal double din are OK but hey use a cascading sea of crap plastic adapters to make then fit.
This one I have is the only one that fits well in the car and doesnt look out of place amongst the quality interior. I've been on the look out for about 2 years (the mk5/Mk6 golf ones always impressed me).
I guess I just have to wait until they release one in this same form factor with a decent CPU, it will probably come eventually!
Dont want to seem ungrateful for your help though. Thanks

Is the CPU in this one any good?
Ebay item.. 303046069027
It's the same as mine but xtrons with more storage and 8 core CPU.

Inertia10 said:
Is the CPU in this one any good?
Ebay item.. 303046069027
It's the same as mine but xtrons with more storage and 8 core CPU.
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You should post a link (or mention which ebay you use. ebay.de or ebay.ca or ebay.whatever. Every country version uses its own item no.'s )
This item number is totally useless. Same from your first post.

I
It's ebay UK
As a junior forum member I can't post Links yet.
I was a member here back in the days of the Pocket PC devices, and used this forum when android was in its infancy. But I don't have my account details so had to start agian.
Thanks for letting me know the item numbers arent International.

I agree links are always better . . . . but being curious, I tried that eBay number on UK, US & NL sites. eBay finds the same item on all three sites.

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I agree links are always better . . . . but being curious, I tried that eBay number on UK, US & NL sites. eBay finds the same item on all three sites.
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Really?
I did search with the number 303046069027 and the one from the first post on ebay.nl, ebay.com and ebay.de and can't find them, whereas I do find them on the ebay.co.uk.
Hence my conclusion.