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Ordered the T-Mobile version!

I ordered the T-Mobile version earlier today, FINALLY. Not sure if I should have waited for the DEV edition, but the T-Mobile version comes with an unlockable bootloader so I guess that's good. If the DEV edition becomes available later this week I will simply return the tmo version and get that.
Anyone else order the T-Mobile Moto X?
UPDATE: Our Moto X's have started shipping, although the moto site still does not reflect it. Showing a delivery date of 9/16 (Monday)!

KiNG OMaR said:
I ordered the T-Mobile version earlier today, FINALLY. Not sure if I should have waited for the DEV edition, but the T-Mobile version comes with an unlockable bootloader so I guess that's good. If the DEV edition becomes available later this week I will simply return the tmo version and get that.
Anyone else order the T-Mobile Moto X?
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Might wait for the Dev. Edition and/or Motomaker edition, the appealing thing about the Moto X is the possibility of the 32gb internal storage and you won't get that with the carrier version.

Do we know if the Dev edition will come with T Mobiles AWS HSPA? If so, that is what I'm going to wait for.

Turb0wned said:
Do we know if the Dev edition will come with T Mobiles AWS HSPA? If so, that is what I'm going to wait for.
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It probably won't. The T-Mobile version does though, and is fully unlockable... so I'd go with that one.

Almost bit the bullet and bought one of these. Can't justify dropping 600 bucks for 16gb and from most accounts a poor camera and average screen. I really wanted to love the phone, but in my limited time in playing with one, I just don't feel it's a 600 dollar product. Motorola pays 220 dollars to have the phone made, they would have taken over the world if they didn't try to get 3x the price out of customers.

Semantics said:
Almost bit the bullet and bought one of these. Can't justify dropping 600 bucks for 16gb and from most accounts a poor camera and average screen. I really wanted to love the phone, but in my limited time in playing with one, I just don't feel it's a 600 dollar product. Motorola pays 220 dollars to have the phone made, they would have taken over the world if they didn't try to get 3x the price out of customers.
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Good luck finding a phone to buy. AFAIK most phones cost about that much to make.

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Good luck finding a phone to buy. AFAIK most phones cost about that much to make.
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Thanks for wishing me luck, it worked. I bought a LG G2 for 600 dollars. Problem solved. I appreciate the luck! :good: 32GB, 1080P screen, Great camera with OIS, for the same price. It wasn't the fact that phones cost 600 dollars, its the fact that Motorola is charging 600 dollars for that phone. Its not a 600 dollar piece of hardware. Anyway, I'm good to go now, back to my regularly scheduled G2 forums. Best of luck X guys! Its really a cool and unique phone.

Anyone get a ship notification since ordering the T-mobile version?

dyndragon said:
Anyone get a ship notification since ordering the T-mobile version?
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I have not and I ordered mine yesterday in the morning.

dyndragon said:
Anyone get a ship notification since ordering the T-mobile version?
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Ordered mines yesterday as well...has not shipped yet...i don't understand why it would take longer then 24 hours if its in stock.

Good thing you ordered right away because it's now listed as out of stock.

Semantics said:
Thanks for wishing me luck, it worked. I bought a LG G2 for 600 dollars. Problem solved. I appreciate the luck! :good: 32GB, 1080P screen, Great camera with OIS, for the same price. It wasn't the fact that phones cost 600 dollars, its the fact that Motorola is charging 600 dollars for that phone. Its not a 600 dollar piece of hardware. Anyway, I'm good to go now, back to my regularly scheduled G2 forums. Best of luck X guys! Its really a cool and unique phone.
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You're welcome
And congrats!

I tried to order one several times yesterday. I had it the basket every time and when I clicked the purchase button I kept getting a message about an error with my credit card which has plenty of money on it. Now I have three holds pending on my credit card in the amount of the purchase and they all say Motorola Direct. First chat session was cut off and second one was with a person saying the only moto x available for purchase was the att exclusive one. I told them they had bad information and they insisted I was wrong. I made a call about it and have had two call backs today but each time I was busy. Hoping for another call back today because I'm not going to sit on hold for another 20 minutes today to see what they have come up with. They did admit that the website has a problem but without more info I am in the dark still I'm losing my faith in this company and it sucks because I want to try this phone and give them a chance but it is frustrating so far. I know its early in the game for the T-Mobile variant but damn, its not looking good so far.

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Good thing you ordered right away because it's now listed as out of stock.
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Only black is available currently, says so on the page.
Mine still has not shipped and I ordered shortly after it went live.

same here
orderd yesterday as soon as I could and it still shows not shipped

Same here.. Ordered yesterday and still no shipping notification. Not sure why the delay when it shows in stock. Anyone spoke to Moto customer care?
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kirdroid said:
Same here.. Ordered yesterday and still no shipping notification. Not sure why the delay when it shows in stock. Anyone spoke to Moto customer care?
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Same here, I called and the guy told me that the order won't show up in his system until Thursday? Wtf does that even mean?

echim4192 said:
Same here, I called and the guy told me that the order won't show up in his system until Thursday? Wtf does that even mean?
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In other threads that don't have to do with the t-mobile version, people have reported the phone showing up even before the motorola order status page was updated. So....anyway, take that with some heavy salt.

dyndragon said:
In other threads that don't have to do with the t-mobile version, people have reported the phone showing up even before the motorola order status page was updated. So....anyway, take that with some heavy salt.
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Hopefully that's true because it sucks to wait for a phone in stock. Does anyone know if signature is needed for delivery?
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Still no shipping confirmation. Its been two days. Wonder what the hold up is?
Iwhen I Google this, articles come up with "t mobile moto x now available, not shipping yet"
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A warning to those thinking about exchanging a Cyber Monday Moto X

EDIT: Despite what the CSR below told me, they do offer exchanges. You can do an 'advance return' where they will put a hold on your CC for the full amount of a new device, give you a code to buy a new one, and release the hold when they receive your old device so you're still only charged the original discounted amount. However, you can not exchange a discounted Moto X for one of the new Bamboo ones (read here)
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I've been looking into the details on exchanging a custom Moto X and was just told via chat that they do not do true "exchanges". Rather, they just have you return the phone, refund you, and have you buy another. So you wouldn't be able to get an exchanged one with the $150 discount. Here's the transcript.
Desiree: Hi, my name is Desiree. How may I help you?
Me: I have a question about the 14 day exchange policy
Me: I am planning on buying a device tonight with the $150 off promotion
Desiree: I will be more than happy to assist you on this.
Desiree: Go ahead, please.
Me: If I don't like my design and want to exchange it within the 14 day window, will I still be able to get a redesigned device at the discounted price?
Desiree: My apologies, the $150 off promotion will not be applicable to the exchange device,
Me: Ok so then you don't really offer exchanges, just returns?
Desiree: My apologies about this but that is how it works.
Me: ok thank you
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However, Motorola Support's twitter contradicts what this CSR said:
https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/412766868240220160.

detonation said:
The Moto X exchange policy listed on the site says:
I've been looking into the details on this, and apparently they don't really do a true "exchange". Rather, they just have you return the phone, refund you, and have you buy another. The one re-design mentioned above applies to when you buy it on contract and get a Moto Maker PIN (in that case, you send the phone back and they give you a new PIN rather than a refund). I just confirmed all this in chat:
So if you don't like your design or were hoping to switch it out for a wood one (if they come out in the next 2 weeks), you're going to have to pay full price for the new one.
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Good to know! Just ordered a phone for my brother, hopefully he will not be disappointed with his choices, hahaha.

We here's the real fact if you happen to get a defective one. They do an advance return if you choose it. They are authorize your card just like the nexus exchange after they send you a link to a new build with the same specs (you customize it but it locks in whatever memory config and model you chose before). They then go ahead and build your replacement and ship it. After they receive the return (that they pay to ship back!) They will remove the charge for the new device... Or the authorization. So really, with defects you don't lose out on your deal. I don't know about voluntary returns... But with defects, I'm in the process of it right now and paid the initial order with a coupon.
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Updated the OP, it's possible that that CSR was wrong as their twitter states you can exchange it (likely via the method mentioned above). Eitherway, it's annoying their own support can't give consistent answers.

Yeah, I suspect that you can get it exchanged and that their support is either confused or misinformed.
They state that you can exchange your device. Whatever internal process they use for that is not your problem: an exchange is an exchange, and it should result in zero dollars being paid.

binary visions said:
They state that you can exchange your device. Whatever internal process they use for that is not your problem: an exchange is an exchange, and it should result in zero dollars being paid.
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I strongly suspect that since I've unlocked my Tmo bootloader, I'm stuck with no chance of exchange.

Cubfan99 said:
I strongly suspect that since I've unlocked my Tmo bootloader, I'm stuck with no chance of exchange.
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Well, maybe, but that has nothing to do with the Cyber Monday deal - which was the original question.

binary visions said:
Yeah, I suspect that you can get it exchanged and that their support is either confused or misinformed.
They state that you can exchange your device. Whatever internal process they use for that is not your problem: an exchange is an exchange, and it should result in zero dollars being paid.
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They would not do an exchange for me when I had camera issues. I was told their process is to return the unit either for repair or refund, no exchanges.

robjulo said:
They would not do an exchange for me when I had camera issues. I was told their process is to return the unit either for repair or refund, no exchanges.
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What, exactly, does that have to do with exchanging a Motomaker device for a different color?
Motorola explicitly states that they will exchange a device within 14 days for a different color configuration. The point is that it doesn't matter how Motorola looks at an "exchange" - any discounts to the original sale would still apply.

My advice: don't waste your time with the chat reps.
As Jayrod said, they do exchanges. What they do is they send you a new "special pin" through email that lets you re-order on MotoMaker (you input the pin at the end). This can be accomplished without a charge on your CC (they give you two options: advance replacement, or regular replacement).
You can replace OR refund even if it is not defective and if you just don't like the colors and even if you open the factory sealed box.

Well the Moto FAQ on the Bamboo back has answered the question a lot of people have been wondering:
I purchased a Moto X from Moto Maker using the a holiday promotion code. Can I switch it to a Moto X with Bamboo?
If your phone falls within our return period, you can return it for a refund of the original purchase price and re-purchase a Moto X with Bamboo. However, the Holiday discount you received will not apply.
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detonation said:
Well the Moto FAQ on the Bamboo back has answered the question a lot of people have been wondering:
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Yikes... so then, it's $250 more for Bamboo. Your head would have to be made of wood to exchange for the wood phone.

Cubfan99 said:
Yikes... so then, it's $250 more for Bamboo. Your head would have to be made of wood to exchange for the wood phone.
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Pretty much. Maybe if the phone had a Snapdragon 800 and a much better camera I would do it because the phone would be a little more future proof. As it is though, I doubt I'll keep this phone much more than 6 months and definitely not more than a year. As good as the phone is, there is plenty of room for improvement and if I was paying $250 for wood, I wouldn't want the phone to become outdated as quickly as this might.

gtg465x said:
Pretty much. Maybe if the phone had a Snapdragon 800 and a much better camera I would do it because the phone would be a little more future proof. As it is though, I doubt I'll keep this phone much more than 6 months and definitely not more than a year. As good as the phone is, there is plenty of room for improvement and if I was paying $250 for wood, I wouldn't want the phone to become outdated as quickly as this might.
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I agree.
If this phone had the latest and greatest then I can see shelling out that much for a Bamboo back. The Snapdragon 800 should last you a long time into the future. It's too expensive for me is all I'll say. Someone out there will definitely want a phone with a natural back even at the price it commands. I'm sure the process to make these type of backs was very complicated, but it would had made sense to have these out from release date. Hopefully the next version of this phone isn't too far off. The concept of it is really awesome and even with now mid range specs the experience is truly amazing.

I don't see the Moto's X specs being a hindrance to moving forward to next year. Slow down? Maybe a bit, but not too much as to say you will want to scrap it right away. After all the X8 chip is something done right.

RenSoAbrupt said:
I don't see the Moto's X specs being a hindrance to moving forward to next year. Slow down? Maybe a bit, but not too much as to say you will want to scrap it right away. After all the X8 chip is something done right.
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I agree!
I think everyone is needlessly scared about the specs on this device. I just purchased a Moto X and have been using it for 2 weeks now, and have seen no reason to believe it will be out of date before the 1 year mark of my ownership. You really cannot compare the Moto X to other smartphones out right now. It's doing at least two things that no other phone is doing (touchless control, always listening and the active notifications), and it was built with those features in mind. That "crappy" 720p AMOLED screen is such that it is because if you went with a 1080p AMOLED or LCD screen, it would blow through your battery. The "slow" dual core processor runs the OS just fine, and the other CPUs handle the special features instead of the main CPU. Have naysayers actually used the Moto X and compared it to the Nexus 5 (arguable the best comparison of KitKat vs KitKat)? I have. I see absolutely NO performance difference between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, based on things I actually do day-to-day (none of these silly numbers only benchmarks that don't really give you a real representation of how the phone will perform for you).
From a financial perspective, maybe at this point, sure - be skeptical about if it's worth the money to get one, or just wait until September to purchase the next iteration. Then again, if you wait even longer, something even better will be out.
Not being made of money, I have started just purchasing the device that I think is the best device available to me at the time and sticking with it for a year (or longer, if it keeps performing well, and nothing else at that time interests me). Any "flagship" device that you purchase right this minute should last you one year just fine, even if it's already 6 months old. The Moto X should perform just fine until at least next October when we can start thinking about the next big update to Android.

Anyone had luck getting them to do an advance exchange on a dev edition?

laur3n.newm4n said:
I agree!
I think everyone is needlessly scared about the specs on this device. I just purchased a Moto X and have been using it for 2 weeks now, and have seen no reason to believe it will be out of date before the 1 year mark of my ownership. You really cannot compare the Moto X to other smartphones out right now. It's doing at least two things that no other phone is doing (touchless control, always listening and the active notifications), and it was built with those features in mind. That "crappy" 720p AMOLED screen is such that it is because if you went with a 1080p AMOLED or LCD screen, it would blow through your battery. The "slow" dual core processor runs the OS just fine, and the other CPUs handle the special features instead of the main CPU. Have naysayers actually used the Moto X and compared it to the Nexus 5 (arguable the best comparison of KitKat vs KitKat)? I have. I see absolutely NO performance difference between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, based on things I actually do day-to-day (none of these silly numbers only benchmarks that don't really give you a real representation of how the phone will perform for you).
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Very well stated and I agree. I have been bouncing around all of the flagships of late (N5, G2, HTC One) and finally landed on X. I am surprised at how peppy it is and do not notice any difference in performance next to the N5. Now I don't game at all on my phones but for everyday use the X is fantastic. I like the features and the fact that I can be rooted and still under warranty. Also I love that I don't have to obsess over roms like I was on the N5 and HTC One. Go Moto!!!! Obey Google Now!

How long does it take them to refund you after you send it back?
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sankyou said:
Very well stated and I agree. I have been bouncing around all of the flagships of late (N5, G2, HTC One) and finally landed on X. I am surprised at how peppy it is and do not notice any difference in performance next to the N5. Now I don't game at all on my phones but for everyday use the X is fantastic. I like the features and the fact that I can be rooted and still under warranty. Also I love that I don't have to obsess over roms like I was on the N5 and HTC One. Go Moto!!!! Obey Google Now!
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I was SO READY for a device that just WORKED. One that I didn't feel obligated to unlock, root, and flash a ROM every other weekend to keep it updated with the developer's bug fixes, because it lacked features I wanted or had a terrible OEM skin on it. I haven't even considered rooting my Moto X. Finally, a device from a manufacturer with a UI that's just barely kissed by OEM features, and features that are actually relevant. Coupled with the fact that Motorola usually has the best radios? I'm sold on "good guy Moto" again.

Asurion Replacing 1st gen moto x with new 2014

so both me and my brother have gotten new 2014 Moto X's from asurion as replacements for our OG ones. Asurion says the first gen moto x has been discontinued. You can also get your custom one replaced if you have them transfer you to the in store replacement/corporate services department. these guys are the only ones that can order brand new custom moto x's from motorola. you heard right, not a refurb, a new phone made to order. they use the moto maker site.
i was able to grab a new leather version and my brother got a wood version. $100 deductible and a brand new upgrade

Legacystar said:
so both me and my brother have gotten new 2014 Moto X's from asurion as replacements for our OG ones. Asurion says the first gen moto x has been discontinued. You can also get your custom one replaced if you have them transfer you to the in store replacement/corporate services department. these guys are the only ones that can order brand new custom moto x's from motorola. you heard right, not a refurb, a new phone made to order. they use the moto maker site.
i was able to grab a new leather version and my brother got a wood version. $100 deductible and a brand new upgrade
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Like a brand new 2013 moto x, or just a 2014 one?

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Like a brand new 2013 moto x, or just a 2014 one?
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the new gen 2 moto x. the bigger better one.

How did you go about making this happen? My 2013 is starting to crop up some issues, so if I can get a replacement (upgrade), I'd love to.

well if you have asurion as your insurance then it's easy. fist you gotta "lose" or "break" your phone. then call asurion on the phone, start a claim and they should inform you that your device is no longer made and that you will be getting a gen 2 moto x in black or white. if you had a custom moto x from last year, then there is an extra step you need to do to get a custom one. request to speak to the in store replacement/ corporate services department. this step is a pain because the people on the front line have little knowledge, but just get them to transfer you to them and they are much more helpful.

I predict a high insurance fraud activity level coming. ?

definitely not encouraging fraud. i've never used my insurance in 6 years.

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fist you gotta "lose" or "break" your phone.
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definitely not encouraging fraud.
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Your wording here is contradictory.
I'm not a fan of doing things the wrong way. I hope that people don't commit insurance fraud over this. The main takeaway that people should get from your posts is that, should their custom Moto X need replacement via insurance, the customer should ask to be redirected to a specific line to get a Moto Maker replacement as opposed to just a black or white model.

Good thing I'm not wasting money on insurance, I'd be mad if they sent me a 2014 Moto X.
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Having owned the 2013 moto x since November of last year and just buying the 2014 X, I'd rather keep my 2013 over the new one. So tomorrow I'm returning the new one.
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REDFOCZ said:
Having owned the 2013 moto x since November of last year and just buying the 2014 X, I'd rather keep my 2013 over the new one. So tomorrow I'm returning the new one.
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Just curious, what don't you like about it?
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Just curious, what don't you like about it?
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Honestly, just the size of the phone and the feel in hand compared to the original one.
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Honestly, just the size of the phone and the feel in hand compared to the original one.
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I've been wresting with upgrading to a larger phone and played with a new moto X in a Verizon store but it's hard to get a good feel with that security thing stuck on the back, and I felt the dimple was weird compared to the original
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It was the same thing for me, I ended up pulling the trigger and got the phone. But I don't like the larger foot print off the device.
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I'm loving the new one. It has a gorgeous screen, I still like the size of the old one but honestly the 2013 model is getting sluggish. The new one is the fastest phone I've ever used, its incredible

oh this is great, i just cracked my screen 2 days ago at work. I just got off the phone with them and they said i was getting the 2nd Gen Moto X. I was very surprised when the lady told me that. She asked for the colors my current Moto x(2013) was and she just replicated it to the new one. I don't mind a newer model, just hope the larger size doesn't turn me away.

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oh this is great, i just cracked my screen 2 days ago at work. I just got off the phone with them and they said i was getting the 2nd Gen Moto X. I was very surprised when the lady told me that. She asked for the colors my current Moto x(2013) was and she just replicated it to the new one. I don't mind a newer model, just hope the larger size doesn't turn me away.
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Did you have to speak to the corporate services department

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Did you have to speak to the corporate services department
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I believe so. I got transferred once because it was the motomaker X and not the black or white one. The told me that they discontinued the OG and were giving me the 2 gen instead.
Only thing that i didn't like is that the Asurion people gave me a order # , but motorola cannot connect it to my gmail account. so to get the tracking info, I have to do a chat or call them. Asurion told me it would be delivered Nov. 2nd and motorola is telling me 2-4 weeks...
Edit: okay so i was jsut on the phone with motorola to see if i could get a tracking # just because. they were not allowed to provide me with any information because Asurion is the one who purchases the phone and send it to you. The said they had my Name for the order and my address correct and that the phone would be sent to ME, but they could not provide me with anything other than that. No time frame other than "Before 4 weeks" and he couldnt tell em anything else becasue Asurion is the billing address/name just and FYI

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I believe so. I got transferred once because it was the motomaker X and not the black or white one. The told me that they discontinued the OG and were giving me the 2 gen instead.
Only thing that i didn't like is that the Asurion people gave me a order # , but motorola cannot connect it to my gmail account. so to get the tracking info, I have to do a chat or call them. Asurion told me it would be delivered Nov. 2nd and motorola is telling me 2-4 weeks...
Edit: okay so i was jsut on the phone with motorola to see if i could get a tracking # just because. they were not allowed to provide me with any information because Asurion is the one who purchases the phone and send it to you. The said they had my Name for the order and my address correct and that the phone would be sent to ME, but they could not provide me with anything other than that. No time frame other than "Before 4 weeks" and he couldnt tell em anything else becasue Asurion is the billing address/name just and FYI
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My brother was able to get the tracking number by simply giving the rep on the online chat the order number. May just keep trying till you get someone thats helpful. Did you get a 32gb? I've hears Motorola is having delays with 32gb.

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My brother was able to get the tracking number by simply giving the rep on the online chat the order number. May just keep trying till you get someone thats helpful. Did you get a 32gb? I've hears Motorola is having delays with 32gb.
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the online chat guy told me that he didnt have the option to give me a order #, and yeah a 32 gb. i asked for it to be shipped sooner than later because i will be away and dont want it sitting on my front porch or somewhere

Returning G4 (810)

The LG G4 is one of the best phones I have owned. I truly appreciate it, however it has some nagging issues with carrier restrictions and as much as I hate to do it, my AT&T 810 G4 is going back. I am not happy about it, and may pick up an international (815) one soon, but I decided this one was going back.
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
Whats Next?
Returning to my trusty HTC One M7 (For Now)
See what happens with the Nexus 5 2015
Might pickup an LG G4 815 International
Wait and see where developers go with unlocking the G4

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The LG G4 is one of the best phones I have owned. I truly appreciate it, however it has some nagging issues with carrier restrictions and as much as I hate to do it, my AT&T 810 G4 is going back. I am not happy about it, and may pick up an international (815) one soon, but I decided this one was going back.
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
Whats Next?
Returning to my trusty HTC One M7 (For Now)
See what happens with the Nexus 5 2015
Might pickup an LG G4 815 International
Wait and see where developers go with unlocking the G4
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Root and unlock will happen, the leather back I have feels high class (t-mo brown) you can freeze bloat with de-bloater tool (all mine is) I dont use the radio (too many apps to use it, plus some of them have local radio) ota-cant help that... I'll most likely get the Nexus 5 as. Well....while keeping this phone.....you did admit its a great phone!

OP has all fair points. Not mad.. but sorry to see you go.

Laters.

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Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
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Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
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Looks like you need to buy a phone full price, no carrier BS.
Sorry to see you go, but I completely understand. I have seen things in this forum that US carriers do to that phone and I have no idea WTF they are thinking.
As for root, I have faith.:good:

Sadly, mine's going back as well. As much as I like the phone, there are currently too many things that annoy me. I'm with Verizon, so the missing apps started me out on the wrong foot. Then throw in LG and/or Verizon not honoring the $100 GB of Google Drive storage as promised, and the touchscreen issues. Finally, I got a notice from Verizon and my bill went up $23 instead of dropping a couple bucks which two Best Buy reps assured me it would. I spoke to a Best Buy manager, and they agreed to return the phone a month after I purchased it (as well as cancel the Edge plan).
All in all, it's a great phone but it's not significantly better than my trusty G3 (slightly better CPU, camera, battery etc...) enough to offset the additional expense. I have a bunch of accessories for the G4 that I'm holding onto, so I'll probably pick one up further down the road. I'd opt for the international version for obvious reasons. I assume that the unlocked version will work fine on a CDMA network with the proper set-up.
UPDATE: Nope... I guess I'm keeping it. After two Verizon reps assured me that I could cancel my Edge agreement, when the time came to do so the rep I got said in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to happen. So even though Best Buy admitted that they screwed up and offered to return the phone AND twice Verizon said otherwise, I'm now told that I would have to buy out the remainder of the contract. I can't complain too much, since I got the $100 Best Buy gift card and Verizon kicked in a $145 bill credit for the mistake.

Unlocked International won't be a good idea..... As long as Verizon doesn't transition to full LTE and still uses CDMA till 2017, this won't work as voice won't go over GSM...

Actually holding back from the G4 because of those as well. Let's see what this year's Nexus have to offer and probably the OnePlus Two as well.

I did the same. Unless there is a viable unlock + root option no LG G4 for me!

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Actually holding back from the G4 because of those as well. Let's see what this year's Nexus have to offer and probably the OnePlus Two as well.
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I agree, I am watching Nexus 5 2015 and the OnePlus Two as well .... If I can get a OP2 invite.
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I did the same. Unless there is a viable unlock + root option no LG G4 for me!
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Yep, I am waiting to. I may head back to LG4 if there is an unlock and root option.

I can certainly respect your decision, even if I would not do the same thing. Sorry that you did not get as much out of your G4 as you were expecting that you would, I just hope you can find a phone that fits your needs and you can have more fun with.
BTW - That Nexus 5 2015 does sound pretty promising, if you pick one up be sure to let me know how it is.

im in the same boat, Att H810 have the least number of bands out of all G4 variants, so I can't get data even when I unlock the phone to use in Asia.
But I am already past my 14 days period so fml.

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UPDATE: Nope... I guess I'm keeping it. After two Verizon reps assured me that I could cancel my Edge agreement, when the time came to do so the rep I got said in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to happen. So even though Best Buy admitted that they screwed up and offered to return the phone AND twice Verizon said otherwise, I'm now told that I would have to buy out the remainder of the contract. I can't complain too much, since I got the $100 Best Buy gift card and Verizon kicked in a $145 bill credit for the mistake.
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Call recorder. This is a must have app for everyone who interacts with any business at all. They're always going to record your call for 'quality assurance', which automatically gives you the right to record it as well (at least in California) without informing them. Always good for CYA situations like this.

Bestbuy $100 off Verizon Pixel 2

I just came across this deal with Bestbuy. It would lower the month rate for the 128gb version by $4.17 per month. Nothing be done or traded in. Still have the option for up to $300 on a trade in.
https://slickdeals.net/f/10652288-s...-in-for-pixel-2-verizon?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
https://slickdeals.net/?adobeRef=1e...ne-just-black-verizon/6099996.p?skuId=6099996

S8 S8+ and Note 8 are $250 off though.....in Bestbuy

I did this. No problems at all. Happy to get away from an LG G5 and to the Pixel 2.

Thanks for posting this! Think I'll be headed over to best buy today, was going to jump on the Pixel 2 anyway, I'll take the extra $100 break. Wish my Nexus 6 was trade in eligible.

notoriousB said:
Thanks for posting this! Think I'll be headed over to best buy today, was going to jump on the Pixel 2 anyway, I'll take the extra $100 break. Wish my Nexus 6 was trade in eligible.
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according to Google, your phone is worth $70 for trade in (although, $100 off at best buy is better). on swappa, it's going for $135+

Interesting thanks for the info. I'll have to check out swappa!
FYI my local best buy didn't have stock on the Pixel 2. They got 2 in (yes two) and they were sold before they ever hit the floor with no ETA for more. Gave up and went to the Verizon store and they had plenty. Paid more but have a shiny new phone now. They said no trade value for the Nexus 6.

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Interesting thanks for the info. I'll have to check out swappa!
FYI my local best buy didn't have stock on the Pixel 2. They got 2 in (yes two) and they were sold before they ever hit the floor with no ETA for more. Gave up and went to the Verizon store and they had plenty. Paid more but have a shiny new phone now. They said no trade value for the Nexus 6.
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interesting. wish you did not boot up... folks on the other thread are trying to see if you can unlock the bootloader by leaving the SIM card OUT before the initial boot.
personally, I plan on waiting until black friday/cyber monday to see if the price drops to something more reasonable.

The Verizon person powered the unit up in the store, though I'm not worried about unlocking the bootloader myself. The email app I have to use for work checks for a rooted/unlocked phone and locks me out if I'm using one. Sucks.
I did notice however that when I enabled the developer options in the phone settings there is a switch for "OEM Unlocking" in the developer menu and the switch is available, it's not greyed out. If unlocking didn't factory reset the phone I'd give it a shot but really don't want to set the phone up all over again if by some miracle it were to actually work.
I wanted to wait until black Friday too but my Nexus 6 was getting so laggy I couldn't handle it any more, it had to go. I will say I really love the Pixel 2 so far. Such a nice upgrade from old Shamu.

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The Verizon person powered the unit up in the store, though I'm not worried about unlocking the bootloader myself. The email app I have to use for work checks for a rooted/unlocked phone and locks me out if I'm using one. Sucks.
I did notice however that when I enabled the developer options in the phone settings there is a switch for "OEM Unlocking" in the developer menu and the switch is available, it's not greyed out. If unlocking didn't factory reset the phone I'd give it a shot but really don't want to set the phone up all over again if by some miracle it were to actually work.
I wanted to wait until black Friday too but my Nexus 6 was getting so laggy I couldn't handle it any more, it had to go. I will say I really love the Pixel 2 so far. Such a nice upgrade from old Shamu.
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thanks for the feedback.
i called VZW today inquiring about any upcoming promos/black friday. rep claimed that he did not see/know of any aside from the $300 trade-in credit (which my phone is not one of).
he did offer to waive the activation/upgrade fee ($35), free shipping overnight, and honor the $100 gift card (which I think is only applicable to new lines). he mentioned there was a sale of $15/month on the XL that ended on the 9th, but could not re-enable it for me.
so I'm going to sit tight (not really, just getting antsy), and wait to see what promos come out on Black Friday.
also, he did say that the device comes with the bootloader unlocked - I reminded him what that meant, as most reps think that this means password locked or something - but he sounded very certain he understood what I was referring to - so this could be a good sign, but I'm not holding my breath.
from my understanding, unlocking the bootloader does NOT root the device, as root has not been established on this device (yet).

looks like the $100 off at best buy is gone.
just waiting for VZW black friday announcement. last year, they announced it on 11/4 - so this year could be on Friday, 11/3.
I keep checking google for any other promotions, but no dice.
so if anyone sees any deals, please post it here.

aaaand someone sold two pixel 2's for $325/each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...660659?hash=item284265d0b3:g:YSIAAOSwRDtZ19uC
#toogoodtobetrue ??!?!?

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aaaand someone sold two pixel 2's for $325/each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...660659?hash=item284265d0b3:g:YSIAAOSwRDtZ19uC
#toogoodtobetrue ??!?!?
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I hope u don't seriously believe this

kolyan said:
I hope u don't seriously believe this
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i didn't buy them.... but why wouldn't we believe it?
on a side note, was showing my kids all of those "iphone drop from 1000 feet tests", and it got me thinking....
maybe the manufacturers place such a high price tag on the phones when they first come out to make these folks think twice about trying to intentionally break the phone. then, once they've been out for several months, the price drops for those that are really interested in keeping the device rather than experimenting on them....
just a thought....

jco23 said:
aaaand someone sold two pixel 2's for $325/each.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...660659?hash=item284265d0b3:g:YSIAAOSwRDtZ19uC
#toogoodtobetrue ??!?!?
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jco23 said:
i didn't buy them.... but why wouldn't we believe it?
on a side note, was showing my kids all of those "iphone drop from 1000 feet tests", and it got me thinking....
maybe the manufacturers place such a high price tag on the phones when they first come out to make these folks think twice about trying to intentionally break the phone. then, once they've been out for several months, the price drops for those that are really interested in keeping the device rather than experimenting on them....
just a thought....
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Well - of course it is too good to be true. Doesn't take much to figure that out. Why the hell would they sell a new phone at a loss instead of just canceling the preorder or returning it.
Check out the sellers feedback: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller

uecker87 said:
Well - of course it is too good to be true. Doesn't take much to figure that out. Why the hell would they sell a new phone at a loss instead of just canceling the preorder or returning it.
Check out the sellers feedback: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller
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hahahaha!
I would imagine that e-bay/Paypal would still reimburse them. once the transaction went sour.
but you're 100% correct, check the reviews first.