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So, here is the thing, i bought my father a phone from one of those chinese imports, at the time i didnt quite check the autenticity of the product, i looked at the price and purchased, well, my father will never figure it out ir its real or not, im just asking out of curiosity
Here is the link of the item i purchased
www . aliexpress . com / snapshot / 100404380 . html
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Sorry, it seems i cant post links, but its sort of necessary for this question
Its funny that even the box looks real, what caught my attention were the sound holes in the back
Anyways, looking for some expert eyes on it, its payed already, im not going to regret my purchase or anything, its just out of curiosity, the link above is filled with imgs of the phone.
Thanks in advance.
By looking at the 6th and 8th pictures (bottom of the phone; open back of the phone) in the description, you can easily tell it's fake. The 3.5mm headphone jack is missing from the bottom of the phone, the hardware Home Button (should be between Call and Start) is missing, and the back of the phone does not have that layout. Heck, the provided battery is 1500mAh, whereas the stock HTC HD2 battery is only 1230mAh.
DSkhury said:
So, here is the thing, i bought my father a phone from one of those chinese imports, at the time i didnt quite check the autenticity of the product, i looked at the price and purchased, well, my father will never figure it out ir its real or not, im just asking out of curiosity
Here is the link of the item i purchased
www . aliexpress . com / snapshot / 100404380 . html
(remove spaces)
Sorry, it seems i cant post links, but its sort of necessary for this question
Its funny that even the box looks real, what caught my attention were the sound holes in the back
Anyways, looking for some expert eyes on it, its payed already, im not going to regret my purchase or anything, its just out of curiosity, the link above is filled with imgs of the phone.
Thanks in advance.
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fake......
Lol figured it was,
It seems it comes with the same processing unit tho, snapdragon 1 ghz, hopefully my dad will never notice the diferece, anyone knows if its possible to install android on this fake phone?
sadly no its not an hd2 and therefore hd2 roms will brick it
DSkhury said:
Lol figured it was,
It seems it comes with the same processing unit tho, snapdragon 1 ghz, hopefully my dad will never notice the diferece, anyone knows if its possible to install android on this fake phone?
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Yes Android can be run on it...there are special custom ROMs....a search should do !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916087
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969661
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988070
DSkhury said:
Lol figured it was,
It seems it comes with the same processing unit tho, snapdragon 1 ghz, hopefully my dad will never notice the diferece, anyone knows if its possible to install android on this fake phone?
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I don't think so.
Cpu: 533M Hisilicon (updated to be Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1GHz)
RAM + ROM: 256MB
(Updated software to be 512ROM +488 RAM)
4.3inches resistance touch screen-Does that mean i can punch it and it will survive?
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Resolution: 480 X 800 WVGA
Windows Mobile phone 6.5
Cpu: 533M Hisilicon (updated to be Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250, 1GHz)
RAM + ROM: 256MB
(Updated software to be 512ROM +488 RAM)
Dual Camera 3.0 mega camera dual LED flashlights and auto focus - Dual Camera 3.0 WTF? hahaha its totally fake but an interesting buy
Let me know how it goes
This one sounds like a more legit HD2 Maybe Not But Id Go For It
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/405273898/windows_mobile_phone_hd2_dual_sim.html
windows mobile phone hd2 dual sim
1 dual sim standby
2 dual camera about 8.0/1.3
3 windows mobile 6.5
4 wifi gps
Features:
Windows Mobile 6.5 OS smartphone
Quad-band:GSM900/1800/1900/850MHz;
Fashionable Shining Style:
4.3” TOUCH Screen WVGA Capacitive Screen:480x800 pixel resolution;
4.3'' big screen capacitive screen dual sim smart phone
Language:Chinese/Japanese/English/French/German/Greek/Finnish/Italian/Swedish/Spanish/Dutch/Norwegian/Danish/Czech/Polish/Portuguese/Russian/Korean
LCD Size :4.3 inches WVGA, 800x480px
OS:Windows Mobile 6.5
CPU :MTK6516 460*2
GPS :Support
WiFi :Support, 802.11b
Memory: 512M RAM ,256M ROM , built-in 8GB standard ( 16GB for choice )
Music: Perfect bass output, equipped with one professional earphone
Camera ual cameras( Front 1.3MP,Back about 8.0MP camera, auto focus )
Video: 3GP/MPG4/AVI/ASF/WMV/RMVB/AMR video; MP3/WAV/WMA audio
FM :radio Support
Data Transfer USB/Bluetooth, U disc under the third party software, activsync
Telephone directories 100000 groups, unlimited telephone directory, can record more than 20 items
Games built-in PPC games,can download thousands of PPC 3D games,JAVA 3D unimited download.
More information Office softwares and other PPC softwares
Color black
Size 121x 67 x 12.6 mm
Weight 150g
mrxkills said:
This one sounds like a more legit HD2 Maybe Not But Id Go For It
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/405273898/windows_mobile_phone_hd2_dual_sim.html
windows mobile phone hd2 dual sim
1 dual sim standby
2 dual camera about 8.0/1.3
3 windows mobile 6.5
4 wifi gps
Features:
Windows Mobile 6.5 OS smartphone
Quad-band:GSM900/1800/1900/850MHz;
Fashionable Shining Style:
4.3” TOUCH Screen WVGA Capacitive Screen:480x800 pixel resolution;
4.3'' big screen capacitive screen dual sim smart phone
Language:Chinese/Japanese/English/French/German/Greek/Finnish/Italian/Swedish/Spanish/Dutch/Norwegian/Danish/Czech/Polish/Portuguese/Russian/Korean
LCD Size :4.3 inches WVGA, 800x480px
OS:Windows Mobile 6.5
CPU :MTK6516 460*2
GPS :Support
WiFi :Support, 802.11b
Memory: 512M RAM ,256M ROM , built-in 8GB standard ( 16GB for choice )
Music: Perfect bass output, equipped with one professional earphone
Camera ual cameras( Front 1.3MP,Back about 8.0MP camera, auto focus )
Video: 3GP/MPG4/AVI/ASF/WMV/RMVB/AMR video; MP3/WAV/WMA audio
FM :radio Support
Data Transfer USB/Bluetooth, U disc under the third party software, activsync
Telephone directories 100000 groups, unlimited telephone directory, can record more than 20 items
Games built-in PPC games,can download thousands of PPC 3D games,JAVA 3D unimited download.
More information Office softwares and other PPC softwares
Color black
Size 121x 67 x 12.6 mm
Weight 150g
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The internal storage and RAM are pretty low. If I was buying a clone, I'd at least get 1024 storage and 1024 RAM. And preferably the snapdragon CPU.
EDIT: But the key thing to realize is that it will probably NOT work with the standard custom ROMs in these forums; it has different hardware. So whatever you get is what you have for an OS.
OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!
s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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noremac258 said:
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
DeepankarS said:
Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
Stop guys, everyone comes here thinks "Damn, I came in a battlefield?" [emoji14]
Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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Thanks!
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
plz tell me about this phone(camera,performance,battery,temperature etc)and i want to buy leeco max 2 or this,plz tell me which one is better.ty
nobody is answering me.i think i am some kind of monster or something because i asked this question from people 3 times else and nobody is answering!
pou_gh2 said:
nobody is answering me.i think i am some kind of monster or something because i asked this question from people 3 times else and nobody is answering!
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Whats your budget? Are you going to order from a chinese shop or locally?
I think there are better options than these 2 phones. And this is like the worst period of time to buy urself a new phone. I would wait one more month to see the new arrivals.
Redmi note 4x 4g ram also seems pretty decent for its price range.
testreaper said:
Whats your budget? Are you going to order from a chinese shop or locally?
I think there are better options than these 2 phones. And this is like the worst period of time to buy urself a new phone. I would wait one more month to see the new arrivals.
Redmi note 4x 4g ram also seems pretty decent for its price range.
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from a chinese shop.and i am not going to buy a phone soon and i can wait maybe a month or more.i have 200 usd budget btw,ty
testreaper said:
Whats your budget? Are you going to order from a chinese shop or locally?
I think there are better options than these 2 phones. And this is like the worst period of time to buy urself a new phone. I would wait one more month to see the new arrivals.
Redmi note 4x 4g ram also seems pretty decent for its price range.
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and also i thought:i dont need a new phone,just a powerful one with good battery,and i found this phone after 20days of searching
Alright so you want battery performance + speed that can pay off the money spent for the next 2 years atleast.
So you should aim for phones with:
1)4gb ram atleast
2) 14mm Soc or less so your battery doesnt drain fast.
Redmi pro has 3gb ram, an outdated soc and you will notice bat issues so i would avoid it.
Le max 2 is more of a jack of all trades, good battery, decent camera, good ram and soc. I would totally buy it over redmi pro. I think there is also better support for le max 2(xda..) so i think that it would be a better choice here. Also b20 band.
And finally there is rn4x. If i were you i would get rn4x. I prefer battery over performance. Just get the 4gb ram version. Last time i saw i think it was gearbest that sold it at a reasonable price.
So for 200 bucks i would go Rn4X> Le max2>rest
testreaper said:
Alright so you want battery performance + speed that can pay off the money spent for the next 2 years atleast.
So you should aim for phones with:
1)4gb ram atleast
2) 14mm Soc or less so your battery doesnt drain fast.
Redmi pro has 3gb ram, an outdated soc and you will notice bat issues so i would avoid it.
Le max 2 is more of a jack of all trades, good battery, decent camera, good ram and soc. I would totally buy it over redmi pro. I think there is also better support for le max 2(xda..) so i think that it would be a better choice here. Also b20 band.
And finally there is rn4x. If i were you i would get rn4x. I prefer battery over performance. Just get the 4gb ram version. Last time i saw i think it was gearbest that sold it at a reasonable price.
So for 200 bucks i would go Rn4X> Le max2>rest
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ok,ty.btw i had sony,huawei and a lot of phones and i say 3gb ram is enough and more is wasting power and just a way to sell more and less than 3gb is slow so i prefer 3gb ram and i really preferd leeco le max 2 but xiaomi is known in my country and there is servicemans here but for leeco there is not but i prefer it if it would had any fixing service here
pou_gh2 said:
ok,ty.btw i had sony,huawei and a lot of phones and i say 3gb ram is enough and more is wasting power and just a way to sell more and less than 3gb is slow so i prefer 3gb ram and i really preferd leeco le max 2 but xiaomi is known in my country and there is servicemans here but for leeco there is not but i prefer it if it would had any fixing service here
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Rn4x has 4k mah bat with soc 625 and it will result in a monstrous battery. I feel that you wont be dissapointed. But i would still go for the 4gb ram version. You can also add SD slot, it has audio jack and its size is more affordable(5.5 to 5.7) compared to le max 2.
testreaper said:
Rn4x has 4k mah bat with soc 625 and it will result in a monstrous battery. I feel that you wont be dissapointed. But i would still go for the 4gb ram version. You can also add SD slot, it has audio jack and its size is more affordable(5.5 to 5.7) compared to le max 2.
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yeah,ty anyway
I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife. But with the applications updates and time passing, the 16 Gb of memory is simply not enough anymore for my usage.
I would like to find a replacement phone similar to my Jiayu with at least 32 Gb of memory and 4 Gb of ROM. The new phone should be dual sim (I work and live in two countries), compatible with European 4G, provide an extension for a memory card (that doesn't use a sim slot) and be easily rootable (I'm an IT engineer, so this is a must). The price should also be less then 300€ (my Jiayu S3 costed me less than 200€, with accessories and shipment included).
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72917904
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nidget said:
I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife.
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
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It's a tough one. Been looking too for some upgrade after 2+ years of S3 use but there is always one or two things that you have to sacrifice - NFC, separate mSD slot, or sometimes B20 frequency on 4G network. For me, an upgrade from S3 would be a minimum of 4/64GB and 4000 mAh battery. I was looking for a larger screen also (Mi Max 2 with 6.44" is my favorite, although no NFC) and also some od Redmi Note series or some LeEco 5.7" models. Oh, and there is Lenovo P2 but it's not so much of an upgrade.
I like the idea of discussing next phone. We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development. Next, we inevitably also focus on some different parameters (money, size, functionality, ...).
Personally, money is not the main obstacle, and, I would like a big 6.5" phone (and if needed at all : a 17" tablet) . Actually: for big screen Android experience I prefer a TV box (and dual boot LE for fun), so I probably do not need a tablet.
So, right now, I have hope for 'Huawei Honor Note 9' or 'Xiaomi Mi Mix 2' but -only- if some minimal, say, Google -style ROM can be built. If not then I would be equally happy with a big size madOS supported Mediatek device with excellent specs and support (just like my beloved JYS3s). Or, ideally: a OnePlus 6+ (6.5" phone).
For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
mrgbuzz said:
For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
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Vernee Apollo looks OK. I want more than 6" next phone. But that's just my wish.
What do you guys think of the Ulefone T1, is it any good and will it be supported bij MAD or other team?
Umidigi S2 Pro?
I think next week I will be ordering Mi Max 2, after 2.5 years of Jiayu S3. It's still running fine so I will probably keep it as backup (and to test Oreo if it comes in near future , but I decided it's time for a bigger screen and much better battery with QC3, which is one of the principal reasons for upgrade...
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Dior DNA said:
We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development.
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Exactly. It's a critical advantage for the (more advanced) users to also have open source ROMs available.
antonioantuan said:
Umidigi S2 Pro?
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On paper, it's trully amazing. But it's not been released yet (it will be in a few days)..
Ulefone T1 ?
Vernee Mix 2 ?
Vernee Apollo 2 or LeEco LE MAX 3 I want to see them soon in reviews. Good screen, power and design
antonioantuan said:
Umidigi S2 Pro?
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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
magin1 said:
Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
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Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
antonioantuan said:
Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
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Why did you change your mind?
Those two phones dont look as good as the Umidigi S2 Pro in my opinion.
And slightly better specs dont care to me, am not going to play heavy games.
Personally I've moved from Mediatek devices, got a Le Max 2 and it's a big step camera wise. Mediatek devices promise a lot but these Chinese companies fail to deliver on the specs. They keep bragging about the image sensor because they know they're not going to optimize the image quality.
Outside of MAD there's not really any development going on for Mediatek devices, and Mediatek seems to have given up on high-performance SoCs (X30 was a big flop), so it'll be the boring octa-core A53s for next year. You can find decent Qualcomm devices for the same price, and you'll get custom roms.
nidget said:
A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
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This ticks a lot of boxes for me but it is missing NFC.
I've owned the One Plus 5 the 8gb sys ram version and apps stay in memory for super quick access, the apps on my S8 plus constantly close and have to reload them back in memory, yes I've disabled close apps when idle, this phone is still randomly closing apps when it runs out of memory, whoever says a phone does not need more than 4gm ram is wrong, try the OP5.
4gb is not enough because of touchwiz ui. Oneplus has no skin. Its near stock ui. Thats why oneplus os takes less ram than touchwiz os.
Poojan Patel said:
4gb is not enough because of touchwiz ui. Oneplus has no skin. Its near stock ui. Thats why oneplus os takes less ram than touchwiz os.
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No, it has 1.5x to 2x the ram, that's why ...
Samsung galaxy S8/8+ = 4gb RAM, Oneplus5 = 6gb/8gb RAM.
Not too hard to see why it handles apps better...
Touchwiz probably doesn't help any but the extra RAM is the real reason...
Why do you think the Note 8 comes with 6gb RAM?
Poojan Patel said:
4gb is not enough because of touchwiz ui. Oneplus has no skin. Its near stock ui. Thats why oneplus os takes less ram than touchwiz os.
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And the fact it has twice the amount of ram helps also, was waiting for the pixel 2 but if they're are only going to use 4gm ram i'm not bothering.
ultramag69 said:
No, it has 1.5x to 2x the ram, that's why ...
Samsung galaxy S8/8+ = 4gb RAM, Oneplus5 = 6gb/8gb RAM.
Not too hard to see why it handles apps better...
Touchwiz probably doesn't help any but the extra RAM is the real reason...
Why do you think the Note 8 comes with 6gb RAM?
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Yep I agree, i'm really disappointed Samsung only used 4gb, I've just had to reload the android messages app twice in the last 10 mins! this did not happen on my mate 9 or the OP5, it's actually getting tiresome now seeing all the social apps have to reload back into ram, I really do miss the OP5 for that, I've turned off all closing apps when they are inactive for useless crap but still basic stuff is still closing down, play store, email, Instagram, android messages etc.
There is an option to lock apps to RAM if you dont want it having closed.
@Akram. How do you lock apps in RAM?
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@Akram. How do you lock apps in RAM?
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Click on recents button> 3 dot menu > lock apps
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Akram. said:
There is an option to lock apps to RAM if you dont want it having closed.
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Thanks I'll give that a go however I've tried these things before on other phones and they never worked.
Ady1976 said:
Yep I agree, i'm really disappointed Samsung only used 4gb, I've just had to reload the android messages app twice in the last 10 mins! this did not happen on my mate 9 or the OP5, it's actually getting tiresome now seeing all the social apps have to reload back into ram, I really do miss the OP5 for that, I've turned off all closing apps when they are inactive for useless crap but still basic stuff is still closing down, play store, email, Instagram, android messages etc.
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That's a hell lot of phones you used buddy!
Btw, what made you buy S8+ after OP5?
Lock apps is a good option as the basic tw settings don't allow lots of apps to be in RAM. That's why the idle battery life is the best on S series.
bluheart said:
That's a hell lot of phones you used buddy!
Btw, what made you buy S8+ after OP5?
Lock apps is a good option as the basic tw settings don't allow lots of apps to be in RAM. That's why the idle battery life is the best on S series.
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The OP5 had all sorts of issues, the main 1 for me was the jelly scrolling and camera not that great, but my mate 9 broke otherwise i was waiting for the pixel 2 which i may still get yet depending on how much they put in it, if it's like the rumours say 4gb then I'm not buying anything again unless it a minimum of 6gb ram, these social apps chew ram up and 4gb these days is useless!
bluheart said:
That's a hell lot of phones you used buddy!
Btw, what made you buy S8+ after OP5?
Lock apps is a good option as the basic tw settings don't allow lots of apps to be in RAM. That's why the idle battery life is the best on S series.
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LOL, only 2 phones. In the last 6 - 12 months I have bought -
1. Axon 7 - 6gb ram 128gb rom - great phone but took too long to unlock and I got bored with it.
2. ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe - 6gb ram 256gb rom - brilliant hardware, stock rom OK but a few bugs - unfortunately ASUS didn't release unlock tool until too late killing off developement.
3. Nokia 6 - 4gb ram 64gb rom - OK for a budget phone but again no bootloader unlock.... Bored now, NEXT...
4. One+5 - 8gb ram 128gb rom - really like it but running out of storage- at least the others I can put in an sd card...
5. Samsung Galaxy S8+ -4gb ram 64gb rom - got a bit cheaper so was in, still exploring stock rom so not rooted yet.
6. Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - 6gb ram 64gb rom - on pre-order... Awaiting judgement. Unfortunately living here in Oz it looks like I won't be getting my shiny new toy until mid October... Got grey import (love the description that it's Oz stock but then these things tend to come with an overseas plug with a cheap sh!tty plug adaptor) but it was approx. $300Aud cheaper than the ones avalable in shops here...
Also waiting for my Jellyphone pro, a really small android phone I got on Indigogo... So sue me, I'm a sucker for computers and phones....
Out of all these phones the Galaxy S8+ is pretty laggy in comparison, even the Nokia 6 is pretty decent in comparison. Hopefully the Note 8 is a bit faster and the extra RAM will push it back onto the top of the heap...
4gb is useless? Lol. Ok... Whatever you say...
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Yeah, I'm not really getting this assertion either. RAM is really only one component that would impact lag. The first of which would be the kernel and how CPU governor settings are applied. I consider myself a fairly heavy user, and I'm not at all upset by the response time of this phone.
Yes 4gb ram is not enough for the advancing technology of smartphones. 6gb or more is recommended.
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LOL, only 2 phones. In the last 6 - 12 months I have bought -
1. Axon 7 - 6gb ram 128gb rom - great phone but took too long to unlock and I got bored with it.
2. ASUS Zenfone 3 Deluxe - 6gb ram 256gb rom - brilliant hardware, stock rom OK but a few bugs - unfortunately ASUS didn't release unlock tool until too late killing off developement.
3. Nokia 6 - 4gb ram 64gb rom - OK for a budget phone but again no bootloader unlock.... Bored now, NEXT...
4. One+5 - 8gb ram 128gb rom - really like it but running out of storage- at least the others I can put in an sd card...
5. Samsung Galaxy S8+ -4gb ram 64gb rom - got a bit cheaper so was in, still exploring stock rom so not rooted yet.
6. Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - 6gb ram 64gb rom - on pre-order... Awaiting judgement. Unfortunately living here in Oz it looks like I won't be getting my shiny new toy until mid October... Got grey import (love the description that it's Oz stock but then these things tend to come with an overseas plug with a cheap sh!tty plug adaptor) but it was approx. $300Aud cheaper than the ones avalable in shops here...
Also waiting for my Jellyphone pro, a really small android phone I got on Indigogo... So sue me, I'm a sucker for computers and phones....
Out of all these phones the Galaxy S8+ is pretty laggy in comparison, even the Nokia 6 is pretty decent in comparison. Hopefully the Note 8 is a bit faster and the extra RAM will push it back onto the top of the heap...
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Wow didn't know AUD are cheaper then INR
But you get them as locked and cheaper so it's fine.
Anyways, enjoy till you get bored
Have fun! Jio jee bharke
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Wow didn't know AUD are cheaper then INR
But you get them as locked and cheaper so it's fine.
Anyways, enjoy till you get bored
Have fun! Jio jee bharke
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Nope, only if you get carrier specific phones will they be (sometimes) locked. Generally this is for cheap prepaid plan phones....
And the Aus dollar isn't cheaper... That's why we have grey imports....
Did anyone who has his phone rooted, try SWAP memory? Making a 2gb partition on the internal storage or even a good quality SD card.
I remember this was a thing few years ago, but everybody just forgot about it.
I agree that 4gb is not enough. Really notice the phone e slows down when downloading in the background
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Im fine, everything runs smooth. You prolly have to be a heavy user.
Who ever asked why Note8 has 6gb, thats an odd question to ask. After the last years N7 i dont think they wanted to take any chance and tried their best to give as much as they could. Although i still passed on it, 1500$ no thank you. Id rather walk around with my laptop.