Hello everyone. From what I've ready, Samsung has a way of knowing when you root your phone thanks to the Knox counter. I understand people have ways around it, but frankly, I understand why Samsung does it and don't mind losing my warranty.
I do wonder this though: does the insurance cover a bricked phone from root?
Also, if I do root, can I get stock Android 5.0?
And lastly, there's so many sites that claim to know how to root a note 3, but a lot of them don't seem legit. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you!
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Anyone?
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If you rooted nc2 or NC4 Verizon won't know and you can go back to stock unrooted. Rooting your phone won't trip KNOX. If you take the 4.4.4 update it's a wrap as far as we know. If you root you won't get 5.0 unless it's a OTA probably. I know Hsbadr is working on some things but for the most part Big Red is trying to kill the Note 3. At least from a rooting and development standpoint.
Really? So there's no way I can get 5.0 custom rom?
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fatesalign said:
Really? So there's no way I can get 5.0 custom rom?
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I doubt it on this device but you never know.
It depends on how your root to not trip Knox amd some other things can trip it from what I've read even improper unroot. I cannot confirm I've never experienced this, but Samsung is who you shouldn't worry about verizon insurance is different. Samsung a is only one year verizon is paid but yes they are right they won't know. Towel root is the only way I know how to not trip knox. To sum up other posts verizon is trying to stop root of note 3 and Samsung isn't helping either. This may be as good as it gets when it comes to development for the note 3 which is still incredible imo due to the bootloader and such. As always hope this helps and shout out to all the devs and others that work on note 3 v
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Anyone have a feel if we will be able to root the note3 on VZW?
Depends, how is your progress going on a device that hasnt even been released yet?
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Question I have is,will Knox security be an issue in the future with changing roms etc
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I think you can better ask @Chainfire about it ...
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Root is one thing,changing roms,recovery,kernel another
I know cf is doing anything he can and I really appreciate that
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I know its easy to be an armchair spectator, but I have confidence that Chainfire will get us root on the GN3. Its bootloader unlock and the ability to get custom recovery I feel may not happen on certain carriers (AT&T, Verizon). Still root does a lot to make the phones even more useful.
Hi
Iam starting to hate my note for every day.
I need to root to install ad block. No joy with all anoying ads over all. Even I use ad block plus without root it makes sites slow.
And oh my god to remove Samsung boatware( suggestions to methods or safe apps to remove?)
Devise updated to newest firmware. I guess I have no chance to root without tripping Knox? But I really don't care anymore. Any root methods that I can use without damaging the phone? As long as it works.
I appreciate any advice^^
No more Samsung Devises for me. At least never at full price.
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kenny1991 said:
Hi
Iam starting to hate my note for every day.
I need to root to install ad block. No joy with all anoying ads over all. Even I use ad block plus without root it makes sites slow.
And oh my god to remove Samsung boatware( suggestions to methods or safe apps to remove?)
Devise updated to newest firmware. I guess I have no chance to root without tripping Knox? But I really don't care anymore. Any root methods that I can use without damaging the phone? As long as it works.
I appreciate any advice^^
No more Samsung Devises for me. At least never at full price.
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Depends what your latest firmware is on your device as to IF you trip KNOX, tbh if you aren't fussed about a tripped KNOX and don't care (much like me and lots of others) then just use CF-AutoRoot simplest method now.
It is mj7
Thank you
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It is mj7
Thank you
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If MJ7 no RDLV(KNOX safe) method (unless bootloader is MJ1-3 or so) -- So CF-AutoRoot it'll have to be. Well that's what I am aware of at least. Unless someone else chimes in with an alternative(?)
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If MJ7 no RDLV(KNOX safe) method (unless bootloader is MJ1-3 or so) -- So CF-AutoRoot it'll have to be. Well that's what I am aware of at least. Unless someone else chimes in with an alternative(?)
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Just used CF- AR and worked as it should.
Finaly
All good
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Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAFE STRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
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No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
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Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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androidfine16 said:
Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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Everything I have read suggests no known avenue of exploit. I think this is a permanent and irrevocable thing that our wonderful devs have been unable to crack. Sigh.
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Of I'm not mistaking the s5 also had a locked bootloader. So will an exploit in that aid here.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Yeah but there's no point in doing that if I can't load a custom recovery afterwards. Man f**Ck Samsung and att
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Hey XDA community. I recently got a Galaxy Note 3 Verizon and have been having some issues. Randomly my phone will freeze then reboot. It's typically when playing games that are graphic intensive. I cleared the cache, done 2 factory reset, and uninstalled and reinstalled all apps giving me issues. It seems to be doing better now but it recently froze while browsing chrome. I was wondering if this was a known issue and how other people fixed it. I read somewhere that I should root and rom my phone since the factory firmware caused a problem with someone else. So any tips or thoughts would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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Hey XDA community. I recently got a Galaxy Note 3 Verizon and have been having some issues. Randomly my phone will freeze then reboot. It's typically when playing games that are graphic intensive. I cleared the cache, done 2 factory reset, and uninstalled and reinstalled all apps giving me issues. It seems to be doing better now but it recently froze while browsing chrome. I was wondering if this was a known issue and how other people fixed it. I read somewhere that I should root and rom my phone since the factory firmware caused a problem with someone else. So any tips or thoughts would greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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I don't play alot of games. Just Subway Surfers and Temple Run so I won't be of much help there but if you're considering rooting and maybe flashing roms check this post out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55003142
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Ok so next question then. I am planning on maybe sending it to samsung for the factory warranty. I would like to try roming it first to see if that fixes it, but not if they are going to be able to tell and void the warranty. So is the reversal process possible on this phone so that they will never know it was rooted? Or is there a counter that they will be able to see?
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Ok so next question then. I am planning on maybe sending it to samsung for the factory warranty. I would like to try roming it first to see if that fixes it, but not if they are going to be able to tell and void the warranty. So is the reversal process possible on this phone so that they will never know it was rooted? Or is there a counter that they will be able to see?
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If the previous owner rooted it properly he/she shouldn't have tripped knox. If you'd like to check put your phone in download mode and check. Power off phone then restart holding power, vol down and home. If you'd like to to restore and send it in then you'd use Odin to restore with the files here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47400062&postcount=1 as long as you're on MJE use the MJE factory tar file. Make sure you use retail if you're on a retail phone or you'll possibly brick it. If you decide to upgrade use the NC2 method and if it continues to act up you can go to stock with the MJE version just to keep it simple.
Ok so I checked and it says Knox 0x0. I am assuming that means it hasn't been tripped. Now is there a root method that will avoid tripping Knox?
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Ok so I checked and it says Knox 0x0. I am assuming that means it hasn't been tripped. Now is there a root method that will avoid tripping Knox?
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Good, if you're on NC4 use towel root.
See this thread by @droidguy22 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53428156
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Ok awesome. And using towel root properly won't trip Knox correct the? Also with these phones is it required to put the roms and kernels on an SD card or is it OK using the internal storage?
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Ok awesome. And using towel root properly won't trip Knox correct the? Also with these phones is it required to put the roms and kernels on an SD card or is it OK using the internal storage?
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Put your rom zips on your external sd. No kernels yet but hopefully down the line. I rooted before towel root but everyone says it doesn't trip Knox.
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Copy that thanks. I'm coming from the razr maxx HD and all I used was the internal memory on that so was checking to see if it was possible with this phone too
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Mine was doing this brand new unrooted. Exchanged it for a new one and the problem went away. There are lemons out there. Take it back to the Verizon store before it's too late.
Yeah I got it from someone else and I'm going to have to do the factory warranty I believe. I appreciate the info.
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Is there a way to root a verizon note 3 running nj6 firmware right now? If not how do I downgrade back to 4.4.2? I just accidentally upgraded to 4.4.4 and now I don't know if I can root it or not. Is there also a way to get safestrap on 4.4.4 right now?
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Is there a way to root a verizon note 3 running nj6 firmware right now? If not how do I downgrade back to 4.4.2? I just accidentally upgraded to 4.4.4 and now I don't know if I can root it or not. Is there also a way to get safestrap on 4.4.4 right now?
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I'm sorry. You are stuck with 4.4.4. At this point, there is no way to go back.
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No there is no way to root it yet. Just hold on to it for a few more days. Once a rooted ROM comes out, it will open the gates.
Ok thanks for the info
I'm wondering how fast this will happen since developer Hashcode is no longer actively involved in rooting
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I'm also wondering how long it will take for there to be a rooting method for 4.4.4
Patience is needed but I expect months of waiting.
That sucks
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All I want is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.lumen&hl=en(Cf.lumen) Not sure if that's formatted right, but yeah, I just want a 2700k screen without losing a ton of contrast. It would be MUCH nicer on the eyes.
Does it work?
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Now is there a way to root nj6? Or how much longer do we have to wait for a rooting method?
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Now is there a way to root nj6? Or how much longer do we have to wait for a rooting method?
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There is no root method as of now, and there is no way of know how long or if there will ever be one.
I don't keep my hopes to high, since the focus of the enablers is on lollipop by now...
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I don't keep my hopes to high, since the focus of the enablers is on lollipop by now...
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Nooo don't say that, somewhere was to be a hero dev, who loves the Note 3 4.4.4 .
?????
It's so sad to known I voluntarily upgrade to NJ6.
(sobs)
I guess I too don't keep my hopes up for getting a root for android 4.4.4 cause I agree all the devs are focusing on android l aka android 5.0
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Anyone have any luck yet?? I neeeeed roooooot
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no luck yet as far as I can tell.
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Keeping hope alive.
Mean while I prefer to use my Samsung GT-N7000 (NOTE 1) rooted than the rock with nice pouch called SM-N900V (NOTE 3)
I might just call Verizon & claim my phone is broken so I can get a replacement & see if the replacement phones come with 4.4.2
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