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THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAFE STRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
Frankenscript said:
No, you can't downgrade an ATT I337 from 4.4.2 back to Jelly bean. They locked the boot loader and it is not possible to flash a downgraded kernel. It's not a warranty issue, it's a "there's no way to do it that is known" issue.
Some folks with Canadian phones have reported success (at expense of tripping Knox) but I'm not aware of any way to do it on U.S. ATT phones. And I agree with you, it's ridiculous what ATT/Verizon are doing with these locked boot loaders. Next time, I will buy an unlocked phone...
Marc
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Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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androidfine16 said:
Is there at least some sight of relief to report in the attempts at unlocking so far. Beside Safe strap.
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Everything I have read suggests no known avenue of exploit. I think this is a permanent and irrevocable thing that our wonderful devs have been unable to crack. Sigh.
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Of I'm not mistaking the s5 also had a locked bootloader. So will an exploit in that aid here.
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androidfine16 said:
Hello guys
THIS IS A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT SAMSUNG WARRANTY/ AT&T WARRANTY.
I am aware that attempting to downgrade from kit kat to jellybean will trip Knox counter however I don't care for it. What will be the worst consequence of me doing so. Soft brick? Or hard brick. And if I do succeed will the triped counter prevent me from having a custom recovery.
Tripping the Knox bootloader counter to 0x1 isn't a worry of mine . But a hard brick is so if I can and be able to load custom recovery NOT SAGES TRAP. That be great. I've been rooting/flashing for years now and I never seen such measures of slavery from a company. I never bought a phone with warranty anyways.
Ps: there's no straight answer in searches. All I've gotten is mixed answer I need a straight YES or NO. If yes how.
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Except for the boot loader, the rest of the system can be downgraded to MK2. Read this thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
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Yeah but there's no point in doing that if I can't load a custom recovery afterwards. Man f**Ck Samsung and att
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Please can anyone help me how to check and rest flash counter on galaxy s4?
I need to send me s4 to samsung care because of some hardware problem but I am afraid if samsung checks the flash counter and refuse me giving warranty.
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Download triangle away from the Play Store, it'll tell you
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But I am not rooted after flashing stock rom yesterday and triangle away requires root permission for its working.
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munmun said:
But I am not rooted after flashing stock rom yesterday and triangle away requires root permission for its working.
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download pre-rooted stock rom from djembey here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250824
install triangle away, reset counter. then you'll have official stock rom with basic root access, flash count 0 and status official.
best choice i guess :fingers-crossed:
munmun said:
Please can anyone help me how to check and rest flash counter on galaxy s4?
I need to send me s4 to samsung care because of some hardware problem but I am afraid if samsung checks the flash counter and refuse me giving warranty.
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I tried installing triangle away and it does not work.. same will happen in your i9500 its not yet supported i guess we have to wait for chainfire to be back from vacation to make this work for S4 hope this helps
munmun said:
Please can anyone help me how to check and rest flash counter on galaxy s4?
I need to send me s4 to samsung care because of some hardware problem but I am afraid if samsung checks the flash counter and refuse me giving warranty.
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Hey, did you send it back or not? I rooted mine to check the flash counter and triggered knox security. The are now refusing to honour their warranty despite the actual fault being a physical fault with the screen (it is peeling away from the phone body).
I will keep pushing them until they fix it as the fault is totally unrelated to the phone software and they are breaking the law by refusing to fix it however I will be selling the phone and boycotting them until they drastically improve their customer service
Read this, then tell them
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j93ijf5hzdfwwjm/Screenshot_2014-01-07-15-27-55.png
Guys got the phone 2 days ago(earlier xperia s).Want to root it.But I got the info about counter.Also I knew triangle away doesn't work.Ive got a few questions
1.I wont get official updates?
2.Is there any other way of resetting counter?
3.Ive a knox app in my phone (what does it states about bootloader)
4.Which roms can I flash(Im using 4.3 android xuemj5 with kernel 3.4.5-187500 se.infra
Thanks if anyone can solve my queries
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Plz anyone
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If you want to keep your warranty intact then do not root or flash anything. Keep it completely stock.
If you don't really care about the warranty then you can install any custom ROMs, kernels, recovery. etc
Oh and its impossible to reset the knox counter once you trigger it which voids your warranty. Even flashing stock firmwares with old bootloaders without knox while trigger the Knox flag so be very careful!
Does anyone know if its possible to remove the knox bootloader from a phone that applied the update?
Why can't we just odin an older stock tar? Will that not work?
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Not currently possible to rollback the bootloader, however there are a number of "un-knox'd" ROM's available.
You have some reading to do.
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Would running an un knoxed rom trip the warranty fuse knox enables? Are there any aosp/cm un knoxed roms out that u know of?
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All aosp/cm roms are unknoxed. That has nothing to do with the bootloader. Once an S4 has been upgraded to MJA or newer software you have the knox enabled bootloader and the only way not to trip the knox warranty flag is not to root it. This flag is pretty useless and means nothing to most users. It has no affect on your phone usage or modding ability. All it does is let Samsung know that you rooted the phone if you send it in to them for warranty work. They may or may not choose to work on your phone under warranty. It doesn't affect your ability to go to Sprint and have them fix your phone. It only matters if you are going to ship your phone to Samsung to fix. If you have insurance (TEP), best buy, square trade, or any other program than you are good, Just use your damn phone and enjoy it!
Oh good to hear thanks
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How does rooting your s4 affect EE insurance if you have a problem with your phone?
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When you root your android phone, it's warranty is immediately voided and can no longer be looked at by the provider.
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Just unroot before bringing it in. There have been reports of people sending in broken phones with custom roms and still getting repairs with Samsung.
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Just unroot before bringing it in. There have been reports of people sending in broken phones with custom roms and still getting repairs with Samsung.
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Thats true bt if he is on 4.4 or 4.3 he will not be able to recover the knox warranty void
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aayushkhajuria2842 said:
Thats true bt if he is on 4.4 or 4.3 he will not be able to recover the knox warranty void
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No that is impossible to recover from but I know several people who still redeemed warranty even with a tripped knox counter.
Hello everyone. From what I've ready, Samsung has a way of knowing when you root your phone thanks to the Knox counter. I understand people have ways around it, but frankly, I understand why Samsung does it and don't mind losing my warranty.
I do wonder this though: does the insurance cover a bricked phone from root?
Also, if I do root, can I get stock Android 5.0?
And lastly, there's so many sites that claim to know how to root a note 3, but a lot of them don't seem legit. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you!
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Anyone?
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If you rooted nc2 or NC4 Verizon won't know and you can go back to stock unrooted. Rooting your phone won't trip KNOX. If you take the 4.4.4 update it's a wrap as far as we know. If you root you won't get 5.0 unless it's a OTA probably. I know Hsbadr is working on some things but for the most part Big Red is trying to kill the Note 3. At least from a rooting and development standpoint.
Really? So there's no way I can get 5.0 custom rom?
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fatesalign said:
Really? So there's no way I can get 5.0 custom rom?
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I doubt it on this device but you never know.
It depends on how your root to not trip Knox amd some other things can trip it from what I've read even improper unroot. I cannot confirm I've never experienced this, but Samsung is who you shouldn't worry about verizon insurance is different. Samsung a is only one year verizon is paid but yes they are right they won't know. Towel root is the only way I know how to not trip knox. To sum up other posts verizon is trying to stop root of note 3 and Samsung isn't helping either. This may be as good as it gets when it comes to development for the note 3 which is still incredible imo due to the bootloader and such. As always hope this helps and shout out to all the devs and others that work on note 3 v
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