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Sorry mods if this is a wasted post. I promise not to do it again. But I am super excited about my Z1 arriving next week. I was a former Verizon user days away from ordering a Droid Maxx when I learned about this waterproof beast of a phone. It was enough to make me ditch my unlimited 4g (selling on ebay). I'm excited to root this thing and start participating in the discussions here. Its great to see this level of support here. I've been looking over the sticky guides so I think I am caught up on the rooting process and what not.
So, is there anything else I should know or prepare for upon receiving this phone? Looking forward to chatting with you all.
welcome man, z1 is a great phone, perfect design
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Sorry mods if this is a wasted post. I promise not to do it again. But I am super excited about my Z1 arriving next week. I was a former Verizon user days away from ordering a Droid Maxx when I learned about this waterproof beast of a phone. It was enough to make me ditch my unlimited 4g (selling on ebay). I'm excited to root this thing and start participating in the discussions here. Its great to see this level of support here. I've been looking over the sticky guides so I think I am caught up on the rooting process and what not.
So, is there anything else I should know or prepare for upon receiving this phone? Looking forward to chatting with you all.
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Welcome aboard and whatever you do, do not unlock it for now (and atleast do a TA-Backup). And if you're wondering why or what I'm talking about, do some more reading
Welcome, sent mine back a few days ago because my screen has a yellow hue (and the .257 update didn't fix it, should be getting a new unit in a week or so).
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Welcome aboard and whatever you do, do not unlock it for now (and atleast do a TA-Backup). And if you're wondering why or what I'm talking about, do some more reading
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Oh I caught that in my reading. I need the camera a lot and hoping timeshift will help me catch my elusive niece. Not too worried about custom roms yet, just need root to be happy. Thanks
Hi mate, welcome
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Also get a front and back screen protector and put it on the minute it comes out of the box.
For some reason unbeknownst to mankind, the people at Sony thought it necessary to laminate the scratch resistant Dragontrail glass with a satanic scratch prone plastic film.
They completely ****ed it up to be honest.
Yest soft lint will seemingly scratch it so make sure you cover both sides if you hate nasty scratches.
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Just got my Xperia Z1 to replace for Nexus 5 32gb today. Much better than any phone I have ever used before.
I also bought a case to protect it and Apple earpods for high music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL...&qid=1385254462&sr=1-1&keywords=apple+earpods
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2R4NNW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Just got my Xperia Z1 to replace for Nexus 5 32gb today. Much better than any phone I have ever used before.
I also bought a case to protect it and Apple earpods for high music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL...&qid=1385254462&sr=1-1&keywords=apple+earpods
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2R4NNW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Awesome, but LOL at apple earpods for high music quality. The in-box sony earpods sounds far better imo.
Also just saying Hi
Hey Guys
I don't normally do this but I'm SOOOOO excited about getting this phone that I also want to say Hi I should be receiving my Z1 tomorrow or Tuesday! It's an upgrade on my cellular contract :victory: Actually its the first time that I will be getting a current flagship device. I have been an avid Samsung supporter (old device is a Galaxy S2) but because of Samsung's unwillingness and flat out refusal to support the development community it has made me despise them to the nth degree! I will never, ever in my life get another Samsung device ever again! I originally wanted a Nexus 5 but South Africa does not (and it seems will never) provide the Nexus devices (tablets yes, but phones, no). They used too but stopped after the Galaxy Nexus. Trust me, a lot of people are unhappy about that in this country.
Anyway, the next option was Sony Z1 and to be honest, quite frankly I think I would have gone for the Sony anyway as this device is a MONSTER phone! The specs are outstanding and it will definitely be a top tier device for at least the next 2 years until my next upgrade. LOL, to be honest after Codworks and Entropy's praise of Sony, was the final deciding factor for me. I hope Samsung reads this because they lost a loyal customer and the dev community does indeed influence peoples choices, albeit the minority that we are but still, I have spread my hate wings of Samsung far and wide and have even influenced others not to buy them or go with their devices. Anyway, enough with the rants, I'm wiping my feet off on Samsung and that's that.
So proud to be a part of the Z1 community now! I know this device does have issues with unlocking the bootloader and breaking the camera but it has just recently being released so I'm pretty confident Sony will sort it out (as it is their flagship device after all!)
I never flash any of my phones with custom firmware or even stock from a different region until I have done extensive research on the device, so don't expect any silly questions from me as it will be a while until I know I am confident in what I am doing.
Anyway, hope you guys have an awesome day and I'm so exited I don't think I can even sleep well tonight!!
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Hehe cute post, I'm happy for you! :good:
You should root it though, it doesn't need unlocked BL for that. And yea, Samsung is a no no from now on.
what is your opinion on the root
Is it worth risking the warranty on the phone
People and developers who deal with this would be useful if you share your opinion on this issue
If you are seriously scared about warranty and all that stuff, you shouldn't root.
But, I, well, have been using Android for past 5 years now, and there is not a single device I owned which I haven't rooted, in fact the first thing I do right after purchasing a device is root. You have a V12 in your Lambo, what's the point of not pushing it?
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If you are seriously scared about warranty and all that stuff, you shouldn't root.
But, I, well, have been using Android for past 5 years now, and there is not a single device I owned which I haven't rooted, in fact the first thing I do right after purchasing a device is root. You have a V12 in your Lambo, what's the point of not pushing it?
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Sounds good, well said
In accordance
All my devices have root :good:
But seriously, what is the odd you ever need the warranty? In comparison with what I gained from rooting, I can live with slight risk that I may ever need warranty. It doesn't cover human damage anyway (like drop or something )
30 minutes later after I got my first Android device, which was Nexus S, I just rooted it after little studying on the rooting.
After that, I'd prepared everything needed for root and new custom recovery, ROM , kernel and MOD before I even purchase it.
My day with Android began with Nexus S, after that Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S III and now Galaxy S IV, I haven't needed warranty even for once...
Some time ago it was a pleasure
root, custom rom mods
When deciding official flash, reset the counter and everything is ok
I do not believe ever already have that freedom to do anything without worrying anything like warranty and so on
Ive been watching the N6 for awhile and loved everything about it but its oversized screen. The turbo is great and fixes all the nexus 6's issues hardware wise, but not software wise. I'm used to Verizon's fetish about going to great lengths to lock phones, the VZW G2 was a pain but a great phone, and my current One M8, vzw locked out only the vzw M8s, so you had to superCID. I've heard stories about droids being especially bulletproof to root. How true are these rumors? And especially with the upcoming L release, which will make root incredibly hard, will this device ever get root? Because root is a must for me.
Relax, root will come. The phone's only been on sale for 4.5 hours. Devs can't root it if they don't got it.
That being said, IF a method comes out for unlocking the bootloader, DO SO IMMEDIATELY. Don't be one of those guys who's always like "oh there's a bootloader unlock method? People have confirmed it works? I'm gonna wait and take this update patch. Damn, now I can't unlock it. Will someone work on this?" Lord how I hate those people with a passion.
I'm guessing the chances of bootloader unlock are pretty slim. Chances for root maybe decent, but hard to say at this point in time.
The Verizon S6 was a little bit sad with the locked bootloader, but at least PingPong gave us root. Does anyone here know about PingPong and whether or not the creators of it will attempt to address root on the S7?
Maybe all the S5 owners that held out when the S6 released will have interest in the S7 and maybe we could get a bounty started for bootloader unlock. Or is the security so sound that it's not worth the effort because it's too hard to crack?
I already ordered the Verizon S7 Edge anyway, so I guess my fate is sealed.
Don't even count on it. If you're thinking about getting a Verizon model just assume it's locked for life.
If you care about rooting and unlocked bootloaders over hardware get a Nexus 6P. Consider ourselves lucky that the last few Nexus phones work on Verizon. If only Samsung had the balls to sale one universal unit running stock Android and unlocked bootloaders. I would kill for that phone.
It seems like it gets worse with each device Samsung releases. I do care about root, and custom roms are nice, but I like the Samsung hardware a lot, so I'm torn. If I had extra money, I'd get a Nexus 6P, but as it is, I got an S7 Edge for $192 spread out over 2 years if I so choose. That sexy hardware combined with a free $300 smart watch (Gear S2) for $8/mo versus Nexus 6P that I'd have to buy outright = tough choice, so I went with Samsung and am hoping it gets rooted. Until it gets root, I won't be able to use Tasker which affects my daily life, so I need to figure out an alternative to Tasker for what I'm using it for now. On the other hand, at least Samsung Pay will still work...quite a small and meaningless consolation.
The fact is, S6 got root which gives me hope that the S7 will, but I am okay without it....I guess. Man, I despise Samsung and Apple for this crap, but their hardware is so nice.
It's really not Samsung's fault, Verizon asked them too. It's usually not like that on T-mobile
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Don't even count on it. If you're thinking about getting a Verizon model just assume it's locked for life.
If you care about rooting and unlocked bootloaders over hardware get a Nexus 6P. Consider ourselves lucky that the last few Nexus phones work on Verizon. If only Samsung had the balls to sale one universal unit running stock Android and unlocked bootloaders. I would kill for that phone.
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This. If it weren't for Samsung pay, I would consider other phones. Samsung pay is seriously the killer feature in the US though.
Lets hope for the best, but I am guessing root only.
I can almost guarantee you that the S7 and Edge won't get even root. Many people don't care anymore as much as they used to because phones these days don't require root as much as they did before.
Honestly the only reason I would need it is to force uninstall all of the bloat, but we have Package Disabler for that which does almost the same thing except it doesn't free up the storage space.
Less than zero.
There will probably always be a root, just takes time and man power to do it.
Just like how Apple always tries to make their phone invulnerable to jailbreaking, but yet people always find a way.
True.. if there's enough intresting and a bounty I bet it could happen. Nothing is bullet proof. ...
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There will probably always be a root, just takes time and man power to do it.
Just like how Apple always tries to make their phone invulnerable to jailbreaking, but yet people always find a way.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the past 2 generations of Verizon Samsung phones have yet to receive root. It is not going to happen with the implementations put in by Google to verify the system upon booting. The note 5 never saw root, the s6 only shortly saw root on early shipping firmware, and the Note 4 never saw root after KitKat. Just letting you know so that you don't get your hopes up.
You will have to have an unlocked bootloader from here on out unless something huge happens.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the past 2 generations of Verizon Samsung phones have yet to receive root. It is not going to happen with the implementations put in by Google to verify the system upon booting. The note 5 never saw root, the s6 only shortly saw root on early shipping firmware, and the Note 4 never saw root after KitKat. Just letting you know so that you don't get your hopes up.
You will have to have an unlocked bootloader from here on out unless something huge happens.
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Past 2? I am sorry but my Galaxy S6 Edge has root..
I've rooted every phone I had until the DT2 and now my s7e. since I can now disable bloat and it not show up any longer I don't really miss root. And with the SD card storage isn't a problem.
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Past 2? I am sorry but my Galaxy S6 Edge has root..
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Past 2? I am sorry but my Galaxy S6 Edge has root..
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Sorry, forgot to mention that one when I mentioned the S6. They both got root on the shipped firmware, but after it was patched no phone after that has gotten root. The note 5, or the edge plus. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just really upset about the situation of the root possibilities of all the new locked down phones. I really wanted a Note 5 but it was also said to be basically impossible by the community so it saved me time and money. I was just trying to do the same for others.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that one when I mentioned the S6. They both got root on the shipped firmware, but after it was patched no phone after that has gotten root. The note 5, or the edge plus. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just really upset about the situation of the root possibilities of all the new locked down phones. I really wanted a Note 5 but it was also said to be basically impossible for the community so it saved me time and money. I was just trying to do the same for others.
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It is not impossible, just many people don't want to spend the time to root the Verizon or AT&T, why would they if they can easily root and mod the ones with unlocked bootloaders.
Look at Apple, for example, they try really hard to make their phones hard to jailbreak, but yet people find ways to do it.
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It is not impossible, just many people don't want to spend the time to root the Verizon or AT&T, why would they if they can easily root and mod the ones with unlocked bootloaders.
Look at Apple, for example, they try really hard to make their phones hard to jailbreak, but yet people find ways to do it.
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Ya there doesn't seem to be much effort put into Samsung + Verizon devices anymore. I can see why, like you mentioned about locked bootloaders, but there are large swaths of users in the US that really don't have the option to get unlocked Samsungs. Like in my entire state, we have to get Verizon unless we want sub-par coverage, and then it's AT&T with locked bootloader, too.
I'll just keep my fingers crossed but am doing okay without root so far (about 14 hours in with my S7Edge).
If you're a betting man these are the odds I'll give you:
Root 1:10
Update to N before S8 release 1:500
Unlocked bootloader 1:9999999999
Any development 1:99999999999
If we do get root there will also likely be a patch issued to remove the exploit.
Get used 6.0.1 and bloatware.
Speaking of bloatware did you notice the two square inches in the notification shade dedicated to quick connect? It's unremoveable.
We should put up a bounty, I'd definitely be willing to donate!
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If you're a betting man these are the odds I'll give you:
Root 1:10
Update to N before S8 release 1:500
Unlocked bootloader 1:9999999999
Any development 1:99999999999
If we do get root there will also likely be a patch issued to remove the exploit.
Get used 6.0.1 and bloatware.
Speaking of bloatware did you notice the two square inches in the notification shade dedicated to quick connect? It's unremoveable.
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The quick connect is removable from the notifcations, you just have to press the arrow and then edit to turn it off.
squallz506 said:
If you're a betting man these are the odds I'll give you:
Root 1:10
Update to N before S8 release 1:500
Unlocked bootloader 1:9999999999
Any development 1:99999999999
If we do get root there will also likely be a patch issued to remove the exploit.
Get used 6.0.1 and bloatware.
Speaking of bloatware did you notice the two square inches in the notification shade dedicated to quick connect? It's unremoveable.
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Two ways to remove it, dropdown your notifications and edit the quick toggles. The option to turn off is at the bottom.
You can also disable the quickconnect app as well.
I bought this phone in excitement over the soon coming physical keyboard mod. I've been waiting for this for years and refused to upgrade from my Droid 4 until a new qwerty slider was made.
Now to my great dismay I am learning that this phone is UNROOTABLE????
I just... Can't. I have ads popping up, noise robots shooting on my screen and I can't close them FOR 5 SECONDS??????? This is preposterous and torturous I am losing my mind. How can this be acceptable? I need root to effectively block ads via the host file. I just can't continue to use this phone like this. Keyboard or not, if I can't have root I don't want this phone anymore.
Will someone please direct me to where I can purchase a rooted or rootable z force?
Besides that I'm willing to put a .1btc bounty on anyone who can successfully guide me to root this phone. As much as I want a keyboard and shatterproof screen these ads create horror. Like I'm tied in a chair and being poked prodded burnt and pieces of my limbs cut off... Without anaesthetic.
Will others please join me in adding to the bounty for the first developer that produces a working root for Verizon Moto z force?
Great phone, excellent mods... But the ads will be a deal breaker and I Will get rid of this phone and unfortunately sit out whilst going back to my Droid 4. I will buy 4 Droid 4s to add to the 3 I already have just in case they start getting scarce.
As a longtime Moto advocate and customer I am deeply hurt, very deeply hurt by these ads and the inability to root and block them. As a voice that begged for physical qwerty to comeback and begged for a Droid 5 for years to be facing this now.. I can't even.
Please someone... Help!
I am on nougat 7.0 and halted system updates until there is a root method
So as it turns out, the z2 force is rootable, so I'm getting one of those. Didn't expect that so soon but there it is. Verizon Moto z force sucks.
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I know it's rootable but make sure Verizons version is, because I know Verizon locks the bootloader on those kinds of phones too. Don't make a mistake again. Also I can't upgrade for a few years so I'm still hoping some miracle happens
I've also been waiting for a root method. I'm on build NCL.2 5.86-11. I tried using Dirty Cow, but I was unsuccessful.
A little dramatic aren't we? As of now only the Sprint and T-Mobile versions can be unlocked/rooted. If your main concern is ads try blockada, its a free, non root ad blocker that works pretty well.
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I just bought a Verizon branded Moto z2 Force Edition, and have come to find that my FoxFi no longer works due to the update to Nougat. I'm actually coming from a Note 4 and was able to downgrade it back a previous version of Android after it automatically updated itself just after buying it. Does anyone know of a way to downgrade the z2 Force back to Marshmallow? I can tether the thing to my computer using PDANet, then start the WiFi option in Windows 10 so my XBox One can connect, but I don't want to wake my computer up every time I want to play my XBox. Thanks in advance.
The z2 force come with nougat out of the box so you can't downgrade... If you where talking about the original Z forcr droid as it has locked bootloader you can't donwgrade either...
jmagi said:
I bought this phone in excitement over the soon coming physical keyboard mod. I've been waiting for this for years and refused to upgrade from my Droid 4 until a new qwerty slider was made.
Now to my great dismay I am learning that this phone is UNROOTABLE????
I just... Can't. I have ads popping up, noise robots shooting on my screen and I can't close them FOR 5 SECONDS??????? This is preposterous and torturous I am losing my mind. How can this be acceptable? I need root to effectively block ads via the host file. I just can't continue to use this phone like this. Keyboard or not, if I can't have root I don't want this phone anymore.
Will someone please direct me to where I can purchase a rooted or rootable z force?
Besides that I'm willing to put a .1btc bounty on anyone who can successfully guide me to root this phone. As much as I want a keyboard and shatterproof screen these ads create horror. Like I'm tied in a chair and being poked prodded burnt and pieces of my limbs cut off... Without anaesthetic.
Will others please join me in adding to the bounty for the first developer that produces a working root for Verizon Moto z force?
Great phone, excellent mods... But the ads will be a deal breaker and I Will get rid of this phone and unfortunately sit out whilst going back to my Droid 4. I will buy 4 Droid 4s to add to the 3 I already have just in case they start getting scarce.
As a longtime Moto advocate and customer I am deeply hurt, very deeply hurt by these ads and the inability to root and block them. As a voice that begged for physical qwerty to comeback and begged for a Droid 5 for years to be facing this now.. I can't even.
Please someone... Help!
I am on nougat 7.0 and halted system updates until there is a root method
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Are the ads put there by Verizon?
I have verizon Moto z force and wish could root too. I have success blocking ads with adguard but you have to install the ".Apk" from their website and allow untrusted sources on phone.
I'm grateful for adguard bc I feel same as OP about ads, they are insufferable torture and psychic abuse.
The reason I want root is that adguard uses local VPN connection to mimick hosts file type host blocking, but then you can't use an actual VPN at the same time. So you sacrifice privacy to block ads.
With root you could have both ads and VPN privacy which is ever more important as net Neutrality disappears and corporate abuses will abound.
Moto z force root
Hello everyone I am new to all of this and I would like to know where I can find a one click root for my Z force? Please email me at [email protected] thanks everyone!
westside23 said:
Hello everyone I am new to all of this and I would like to know where I can find a one click root for my Z force? Please email me at [email protected] thanks everyone!
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Can't be done...no root available on this phone.
rootearandroid.com/motorola-moto-z-force/ este pagina si es verdad confirmen
God, please
Two updates ago it ruined my phone... Made it super laggy, I put off the update that followed it thinking it might help, it just made everything worse. Now my phone won't load YouTube videos, if they play they're a terrible resolution, web pages won't load, and the phone is even more laggy its unusable.
Suspisciously both of these updates happened the month the phone was out of warranty, is this how Google works with phone companies to make sure you buy a new phone every year? By making your phone an unusable slow brick that can't connect to the internet? Battery life is also terrible now! I'll never install another update! Now my phone is a "secure" brick!
I really really need to be able to root this phone and install a rom that makes it work again! Can anyone help me? Please!
Yeah I stay away from updates. If the fone I working perfectly fine... Why update?? is my motto
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Yeah I stay away from updates. If the fone I working perfectly fine... Why update?? is my motto
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This is the third or forth time an "update" has rendered my year old Android phone virtually unusable because of updates to the apps and os screw things up like clockwork make it partially usable, then the next wave of app updates screws everything back up again.
I am so disgusted and pissed off I think I'll save up and get an Apple. And I am a die hard anti iPhone guy, but you know what?! Starting to think Google and Android are evil, greedy, and don't deserve a dime from me. So no more to scumbag Google and Android.
BUYER BEWARE
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This is the third or forth time an "update" has rendered my year old Android phone virtually unusable because of updates to the apps and os screw things up like clockwork make it partially usable, then the next wave of app updates screws everything back up again.
I am so disgusted and pissed off I think I'll save up and get an Apple. And I am a die hard anti iPhone guy, but you know what?! Starting to think Google and Android are evil, greedy, and don't deserve a dime from me. So no more to scumbag Google and Android.
BUYER BEWARE
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And you think Apple is better? The IOS 11 update is apparently a real horror show and they aren't quick to fix things either.
Your beef isn't with Google, it's with Verizon. Unless you bought an unlocked moto z force, you're locked to Verizon and your updates come from them, not Google. Google may issue the initial code, but then it's submitted to the carriers for their branding and then they send it to you. Nexus and now pixel phones are the only ones updated directly by Google.
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And you think Apple is better? The IOS 11 update is apparently a real horror show and they aren't quick to fix things either.
Your beef isn't with Google, it's with Verizon. Unless you bought an unlocked moto z force, you're locked to Verizon and your updates come from them, not Google. Google may issue the initial code, but then it's submitted to the carriers for their branding and then they send it to you. Nexus and now pixel phones are the only ones updated directly by Google.
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Well you might be right. Verizon is one of the greediest companies in the world as far as I'm concerned it's no wonder they'd introduce "security updates" (those don't come from Google!?) that completely destroy your phones performance and force you to get another FROM THEM.
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Well you might be right. Verizon is one of the greediest companies in the world as far as I'm concerned it's no wonder they'd introduce "security updates" (those don't come from Google!?) that completely destroy your phones performance and force you to get another FROM THEM.
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Not being critical, but maybe your issue is device specific or usage specific. Both my sons have moto z's and have taken all the updates and have no issues from firmware performance. Have you done a factory reset? You might have corrupted something. And yes, the monthly security updates are created by Google, then sent to the carriers to tweak before you get them as ota's. Google is only responsible for the core code, not what gets done after. I've just come from a Nexus 6, updated directly through Google for 2 years, and any issue was quickly resolved.
Your problem is not with Google, it's either your device, your application, or your Verizon issued firmware needs a clean install.
You know what you were right. I returned to stock via the bootloader and downloaded just the bare necessities and updated everything and now none of the problems are there any more. The phone is smooth, fast, and the battery life is much better. Who knew?
Thank you so much for the suggestion you have restored my phone!
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Two updates ago it ruined my phone... Made it super laggy, I put off the update that followed it thinking it might help, it just made everything worse. Now my phone won't load YouTube videos, if they play they're a terrible resolution, web pages won't load, and the phone is even more laggy its unusable.
Suspisciously both of these updates happened the month the phone was out of warranty, is this how Google works with phone companies to make sure you buy a new phone every year? By making your phone an unusable slow brick that can't connect to the internet? Battery life is also terrible now! I'll never install another update! Now my phone is a "secure" brick!
I really really need to be able to root this phone and install a rom that makes it work again! Can anyone help me? Please!
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Soon as it's out of warranty they send updates to cause problems. If you ignore then you get one that bricks your phone. This not only happened to me but 6 other people. All a few weeks after the warranty was up. It was a move to sell the z2 force.
Let me guess. You have a min of 2 Moto mods huh? I got the z2 force after it happened because of the mods but I'm glad Moto is going belly up. Phones are trash now and the support is a joke at best. They can't go under fast enough. Soon as the new note launches Im ditching this hunk of trash z2 force and getting a quality phone.updates won't be any slower then Moto. Hey z force's how's 8.0 somce they said you were getting it winter 2017? Oh wait they are dragging there feet trying to get you to buy new phone.