I'm guessing the chances of bootloader unlock are pretty slim. Chances for root maybe decent, but hard to say at this point in time.
The Verizon S6 was a little bit sad with the locked bootloader, but at least PingPong gave us root. Does anyone here know about PingPong and whether or not the creators of it will attempt to address root on the S7?
Maybe all the S5 owners that held out when the S6 released will have interest in the S7 and maybe we could get a bounty started for bootloader unlock. Or is the security so sound that it's not worth the effort because it's too hard to crack?
I already ordered the Verizon S7 Edge anyway, so I guess my fate is sealed.
Don't even count on it. If you're thinking about getting a Verizon model just assume it's locked for life.
If you care about rooting and unlocked bootloaders over hardware get a Nexus 6P. Consider ourselves lucky that the last few Nexus phones work on Verizon. If only Samsung had the balls to sale one universal unit running stock Android and unlocked bootloaders. I would kill for that phone.
It seems like it gets worse with each device Samsung releases. I do care about root, and custom roms are nice, but I like the Samsung hardware a lot, so I'm torn. If I had extra money, I'd get a Nexus 6P, but as it is, I got an S7 Edge for $192 spread out over 2 years if I so choose. That sexy hardware combined with a free $300 smart watch (Gear S2) for $8/mo versus Nexus 6P that I'd have to buy outright = tough choice, so I went with Samsung and am hoping it gets rooted. Until it gets root, I won't be able to use Tasker which affects my daily life, so I need to figure out an alternative to Tasker for what I'm using it for now. On the other hand, at least Samsung Pay will still work...quite a small and meaningless consolation.
The fact is, S6 got root which gives me hope that the S7 will, but I am okay without it....I guess. Man, I despise Samsung and Apple for this crap, but their hardware is so nice.
It's really not Samsung's fault, Verizon asked them too. It's usually not like that on T-mobile
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Don't even count on it. If you're thinking about getting a Verizon model just assume it's locked for life.
If you care about rooting and unlocked bootloaders over hardware get a Nexus 6P. Consider ourselves lucky that the last few Nexus phones work on Verizon. If only Samsung had the balls to sale one universal unit running stock Android and unlocked bootloaders. I would kill for that phone.
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This. If it weren't for Samsung pay, I would consider other phones. Samsung pay is seriously the killer feature in the US though.
Lets hope for the best, but I am guessing root only.
I can almost guarantee you that the S7 and Edge won't get even root. Many people don't care anymore as much as they used to because phones these days don't require root as much as they did before.
Honestly the only reason I would need it is to force uninstall all of the bloat, but we have Package Disabler for that which does almost the same thing except it doesn't free up the storage space.
Less than zero.
There will probably always be a root, just takes time and man power to do it.
Just like how Apple always tries to make their phone invulnerable to jailbreaking, but yet people always find a way.
True.. if there's enough intresting and a bounty I bet it could happen. Nothing is bullet proof. ...
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There will probably always be a root, just takes time and man power to do it.
Just like how Apple always tries to make their phone invulnerable to jailbreaking, but yet people always find a way.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the past 2 generations of Verizon Samsung phones have yet to receive root. It is not going to happen with the implementations put in by Google to verify the system upon booting. The note 5 never saw root, the s6 only shortly saw root on early shipping firmware, and the Note 4 never saw root after KitKat. Just letting you know so that you don't get your hopes up.
You will have to have an unlocked bootloader from here on out unless something huge happens.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the past 2 generations of Verizon Samsung phones have yet to receive root. It is not going to happen with the implementations put in by Google to verify the system upon booting. The note 5 never saw root, the s6 only shortly saw root on early shipping firmware, and the Note 4 never saw root after KitKat. Just letting you know so that you don't get your hopes up.
You will have to have an unlocked bootloader from here on out unless something huge happens.
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Past 2? I am sorry but my Galaxy S6 Edge has root..
I've rooted every phone I had until the DT2 and now my s7e. since I can now disable bloat and it not show up any longer I don't really miss root. And with the SD card storage isn't a problem.
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Past 2? I am sorry but my Galaxy S6 Edge has root..
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Past 2? I am sorry but my Galaxy S6 Edge has root..
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Sorry, forgot to mention that one when I mentioned the S6. They both got root on the shipped firmware, but after it was patched no phone after that has gotten root. The note 5, or the edge plus. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just really upset about the situation of the root possibilities of all the new locked down phones. I really wanted a Note 5 but it was also said to be basically impossible by the community so it saved me time and money. I was just trying to do the same for others.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that one when I mentioned the S6. They both got root on the shipped firmware, but after it was patched no phone after that has gotten root. The note 5, or the edge plus. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just really upset about the situation of the root possibilities of all the new locked down phones. I really wanted a Note 5 but it was also said to be basically impossible for the community so it saved me time and money. I was just trying to do the same for others.
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It is not impossible, just many people don't want to spend the time to root the Verizon or AT&T, why would they if they can easily root and mod the ones with unlocked bootloaders.
Look at Apple, for example, they try really hard to make their phones hard to jailbreak, but yet people find ways to do it.
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It is not impossible, just many people don't want to spend the time to root the Verizon or AT&T, why would they if they can easily root and mod the ones with unlocked bootloaders.
Look at Apple, for example, they try really hard to make their phones hard to jailbreak, but yet people find ways to do it.
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Ya there doesn't seem to be much effort put into Samsung + Verizon devices anymore. I can see why, like you mentioned about locked bootloaders, but there are large swaths of users in the US that really don't have the option to get unlocked Samsungs. Like in my entire state, we have to get Verizon unless we want sub-par coverage, and then it's AT&T with locked bootloader, too.
I'll just keep my fingers crossed but am doing okay without root so far (about 14 hours in with my S7Edge).
If you're a betting man these are the odds I'll give you:
Root 1:10
Update to N before S8 release 1:500
Unlocked bootloader 1:9999999999
Any development 1:99999999999
If we do get root there will also likely be a patch issued to remove the exploit.
Get used 6.0.1 and bloatware.
Speaking of bloatware did you notice the two square inches in the notification shade dedicated to quick connect? It's unremoveable.
We should put up a bounty, I'd definitely be willing to donate!
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If you're a betting man these are the odds I'll give you:
Root 1:10
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Unlocked bootloader 1:9999999999
Any development 1:99999999999
If we do get root there will also likely be a patch issued to remove the exploit.
Get used 6.0.1 and bloatware.
Speaking of bloatware did you notice the two square inches in the notification shade dedicated to quick connect? It's unremoveable.
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The quick connect is removable from the notifcations, you just have to press the arrow and then edit to turn it off.
squallz506 said:
If you're a betting man these are the odds I'll give you:
Root 1:10
Update to N before S8 release 1:500
Unlocked bootloader 1:9999999999
Any development 1:99999999999
If we do get root there will also likely be a patch issued to remove the exploit.
Get used 6.0.1 and bloatware.
Speaking of bloatware did you notice the two square inches in the notification shade dedicated to quick connect? It's unremoveable.
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Two ways to remove it, dropdown your notifications and edit the quick toggles. The option to turn off is at the bottom.
You can also disable the quickconnect app as well.
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I am going to begin a bounty to all of our devs of $100 to whomever can get a working unlocked bootloader for the Verizon 4GLTE P605V Samsung Galaxy 10.1 2014 edition. It's complete nonsense that going as far back as far as April (the first post I found searching for this) that there isn't a solution.... If you own this tablet variant as well, please jump on board.
Most devs for the 10.1 2014 have moved to the pro version. So this may be really hard to get. if you look at the unlocked versions there is little to no support for them right now as well.
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All the Verizon/Samsung locked bootloaders have been unlockable to date as well as the AT&T varieties. Check the S4, Note 3 and S5 threads.
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All the Verizon/Samsung locked bootloaders have been unlockable to date as well as the AT&T varieties. Check the S4, Note 3 and S5 threads.
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I don't really care about the S4, my Note 3 is already unlocked, and could care less about the S5 as well. What I AM concerned with is getting my 10.1 2014 Verizon edition unlocked so I can actually get TWRP on it an put on custom ROM's. For a forum filled with lots of experts and geniuses, no one seems to want to take any time or make any effort. I am literally begging! Using any version of Odin has failed trying to get TWRP on my tablet. All the ROMs I have looked at say to install that as a prerequisite. So what is a guy to do? Should I just put a round from my .45 through it and call it a day? I am outside the 14 day return window now with Verizon, so unless someone can give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong, then I am royally screwed..........
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I don't really care about the S4, my Note 3 is already unlocked, and could care less about the S5 as well. What I AM concerned with is getting my 10.1 2014 Verizon edition unlocked so I can actually get TWRP on it an put on custom ROM's. For a forum filled with lots of experts and geniuses, no one seems to want to take any time or make any effort. I am literally begging! Using any version of Odin has failed trying to get TWRP on my tablet. All the ROMs I have looked at say to install that as a prerequisite. So what is a guy to do? Should I just put a round from my .45 through it and call it a day? I am outside the 14 day return window now with Verizon, so unless someone can give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong, then I am royally screwed..........
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You are missing the point. Bootloaders are not a simple security hack. They are the proprietary coding that allows the device to boot. There is NO decompiling, sorting through code, figuring out the lock and then unlocking it. There needs to be an exploit to get in and change it. Which means there is a 99% chance the wrong exploit attempt will brick the device...an not the "brick" all these people talk about mistakenly on this site...a REAL brick...dead paperweight. Think that it is an issue with this sites "geniuses" not wanting to do it? Maybe you would understand better if you blindfolded yourself and tried to assemble a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle....only you get an electric shock with every wrong piece you play.
I mentioned the other devices not to see if you "care"...it is to let you know the same method is employed to lock those as your tablet and they are just as popular with the "geniuses" that genuinely want to unlock the bootloader. AND have large bounties on them.
As to what are you supposed to do? Research next time. Buy products from a carrier that does not lock down their devices or buy a device that is not a commercial push to the military and corporate so that Verizon wants it locked down tight for more sales and contracts. Or continue to hold your breath throwing this tantrum you seem to be doing. Or...I don't know...use the tablet as it was designed to be used when sold and seems to work fine for the millions of customers who know nothing of XDA or rooting.
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You are missing the point. Bootloaders are not a simple security hack. They are the proprietary coding that allows the device to boot. There is NO decompiling, sorting through code, figuring out the lock and then unlocking it. There needs to be an exploit to get in and change it. Which means there is a 99% chance the wrong exploit attempt will brick the device...an not the "brick" all these people talk about mistakenly on this site...a REAL brick...dead paperweight. Think that it is an issue with this sites "geniuses" not wanting to do it? Maybe you would understand better if you blindfolded yourself and tried to assemble a 5000 piece jigsaw puzzle....only you get an electric shock with every wrong piece you play.
I mentioned the other devices not to see if you "care"...it is to let you know the same method is employed to lock those as your tablet and they are just as popular with the "geniuses" that genuinely want to unlock the bootloader. AND have large bounties on them.
As to what are you supposed to do? Research next time. Buy products from a carrier that does not lock down their devices or buy a device that is not a commercial push to the military and corporate so that Verizon wants it locked down tight for more sales and contracts. Or continue to hold your breath throwing this tantrum you seem to be doing. Or...I don't know...use the tablet as it was designed to be used when sold and seems to work fine for the millions of customers who know nothing of XDA or rooting.
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I would have to say that in reading text, it is generally hard to understand the tone of the text. While I wasn't throwing a tantrum, the tone of your reply is pretty unmistakable. When someone comes here genuinely looking for help and assistance with a device, is it a general practice to publicly belittle and berate them? As to my bounty, I started off low to see if others would jump on board or not. As to my carrier, I have been with Verizon from day one, get a rather large corporate discount from them on devices and accessories, and have 6 lines through them, so why just to get this tablet to do what I want it to, would I change carriers? Every device that I have had in the 'smart'phone era has been Verizon, and someone has found a way to unlock them. So I apologize if I came of looking like a prick, as that was not at all my intention. I would gladly personally pay up to $100.00 if someone could help. It is very frustrating to only be able to do half of what I want to achieve with my tablet. I'm as far as I personally can go on it. If anyone was offended by my wording, again, I am sorry for that. BTW, I changed the avatar that was only taken offense to after my post. Have a happy Sunday Funday! I know I will as I am already on bloody Mary number 4 here.
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I would have to say that in reading text, it is generally hard to understand the tone of the text. While I wasnt throwing a tantrum, the tone of your reply is pretty unmistakable. When someone comes here genuinely looking for help and assistance with a device, is it a general practice to publicly belittle and berate them? As to my bounty, I started off low to see if others would jump on board or not. As to my carrier, I have been with Verizon from day one, get a rather large corporate discount from them on devices and accessories, and have 6 lines through them, so why just to get this tablet to do what I want it to, would I change carriers? Every device that I have had in the smartphone era has been Verizon, and someone has found a way to unlock them. So I apologize if I came of looking like a prick, as that was not at all my intention. I would gladly personally pay up to $100.00 if someone could help. It is very frustrating to only be able to do half of what I want to achieve with my tablet. Im as far as I personally can go on it. If anyone was offended by my wording, again, I am sorry for that. BTW, I changed the avatar that was only taken offense to after my post. Have a happy Sunday Funday! I know I will as I am already on bloody Mary number 4 here.
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Your phrase that asks if you should put a bullet into your tablet certainly sounded like a bit of a tantrum. Sorry if I somehow misconstrued that. Then also sounding like you were belittling XDA developers because they did not unlock the bootloader yet.. Sounded a bit entitled. There are devices years old that have never been unlocked. I have done my best to explain why there should never be a time limit or expectations of the bootloader ever being unlocked yet you also shot that down as selfishly exclaiming you did not care about those examples and were only concerned about what matters to you. Did I leave anything out? Sorry if I somehow misinterpreted any of that. Sounds like you need to start making a decision as to what is more important to you, your corporate discount or an unlocked bootloader. Have your bounty but I already explained older Verizon devices with the same locked bootloaders has stumped the security geniuses so far.
$100
$100.00
$150.00?
The devs were never really all that involved with this tablet. It is highly unlikely they will unlock the Verizon version unless they figure out the other Samsung products. Even if they would unlock the tablet you my not get any devs that are willing to port their Roms over to the Verizon version.
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Ok, I give up
Don_Pachuco said:
Ok, I give up
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Say my friend..don't give up There are to many smart people at this forum... (and other forums) Trust me just have to be patient lol.. I am in the same boat some one will figure this out..
OK, I have a SM-P605v with a broken LCD (not the screen itself, but the display is discolored and not displaying correctly). It was previously Rooted and I have gotten screen emulators working when hooked up to my laptop. I would be willing to donate this to any Dev willing to work on the exploit. If there is a risk of bricking the device, then rest assured it's no biggie since the screen is bad on it. Please PM me if you are interested.
It's been a while now, anyone figure it out yet?....................................................
Has anyone tried the unlock script for the note 3 and note 4?
Here is the link to note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/official-note-3-verizon-bootloader-t3359370
I just got a SM-P605 that is unlocked. Once I figure out where the kernal came from perhaps I can be of help here. I really want to get this thing rooted and connected with my carrier. I had had a SM-P600, but it was smashed and could not be repaired. That's why I bought this tablet. Otherwise this P605 is totally stock and runs like a very well behaved powerhouse should.
Rob
i looked at this page it says u need root to use this .
Nappyloxs said:
Has anyone tried the unlock script for the note 3 and note 4?
Here is the link to note 3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/official-note-3-verizon-bootloader-t3359370
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but dont you need a unlocked bootloader to get root ?
No you don't need unlocked bootloader to root. I think I used towel root years ago to root this tablet.
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The devs were never really all that involved with this tablet. It is highly unlikely they will unlock the Verizon version unless they figure out the other Samsung products. Even if they would unlock the tablet you my not get any devs that are willing to port their Roms over to the Verizon version.
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You know I really loved my SM-P600, but it was badly damaged and I don't know how or where to order in the left speaker, on/off switch from. So got really frustrated advanced ordered an SM-P605v instead and was able to get one that has an unlocked boatloader. I've not rooted it yet, or mounted TWRP on it. I may not root it though I'd like to. Even so, I'm looking into it and while, though I'm extremely happy with it,I may eventually root it.
I've explored a lot of options so far and none of them, so far, work for an SM-P605v running Android 5.1.1.
I'll get back with you about a week from now.
By the way, this tablet, and the SGN Pro are still much more powerful and capable than the Surface Pro or IPad Pro. This, even though they are getting a little older.
By the way,I spoke to a friend of mine who owns the large IPad Pro today. Apple hasn't optimised the Home screen yet, even after all these months. You'd think they'd have done better by their consumer base by now.
Even so, I'm so pleased with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014), both with the SM-P600, and the SM-P605. Unless Samsung releases a Tab A that has an S Pen and 32 gigs memory, or releases a substantial upgrade to the SM-P600,SM-P605, and SM-P607, or puts out a new SGN in the series with 64 our 128gigs internal, I'm not open to trading my tablet in. It'll be over my cold, dead body.
This whole thing just died from no interest other than from me, huh?
So are we to this point yet? With this locked Bootloader we are getting nowhere. I know before they had safestrap to get around the bootloader and flash roms on att devices. Now I'm in for whatever but thought it was worth the discussion. And no I do not know how someone gets paid or whatever or keeps track of funds. I just starting the convo on it.
I support this, as well. I made an uncharacteristically ignorant upgrade from an S5 to the S7 Edge (Sprint - Qualcomm) and hit a roadblock with rooting.
I signed the petition almost the day it was posted. But still no love. Its sad, knowing the one thing holding this device back from reaching its true potential is the stubborn nature of the manufacturer.
Facts & Rant: the biggest complaint about Apple is their communistic business practices. So why would Samsung start emulating Apple? First they stripped the S6 of the two flagship features that set their phones apart from Apple devices (thankfully they brought back the removable storage with the S7), and now the locked bootloader...? This is one reason I've never considered myself a fanboy of any one manufacturer...
Not sure if this thread will become the official bounty thread, but either way: $10 from me to the one whom succeeds.
Does XDA have a crowdfunding module?
The phone stock is amazing with bloat disabler. Not really finding myself caring or needing root. Besk of luck to those that need it. WIll be a long long wait if it ever comes..
kennypow3rs said:
The phone stock is amazing with bloat disabler. Not really finding myself caring or needing root. Besk of luck to those that need it. WIll be a long long wait if it ever comes..
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What did you use to disable bloat?
Luethetechguy said:
What did you use to disable bloat?
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Package disabler in the play store. Best 2 bucks ive ever spent.
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So is there an official bounty for the Spring S7 Edge to get a solid root going (the one and only "solution" seems iffy).
I'm more than happy to contribute.
I've had my damn S7 edge sitting in the box since November and keep using my Note 4 (while my g.f. uses her S7 edge).
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So is there an official bounty for the Spring S7 Edge to get a solid root going (the one and only "solution" seems iffy).
I'm more than happy to contribute.
I've had my damn S7 edge sitting in the box since November and keep using my Note 4 (while my g.f. uses her S7 edge).
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Odin a U firmware...almost like having root. What are you looking for with root specifically? The U may be able to do it
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DAE51D said:
So is there an official bounty for the Spring S7 Edge to get a solid root going (the one and only "solution" seems iffy).
I'm more than happy to contribute.
I've had my damn S7 edge sitting in the box since November and keep using my Note 4 (while my g.f. uses her S7 edge).
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I'm rooted on APL2, on the sprint G930U firmware. It works perfectly aside from no MMS.
For starters I want to backup/restore my data from my Galaxy Note 4. There are many apps that don't save to the cloud still, and also many that don't use the built in MM "backup" that Google provided developers. TitaniumBackup is THE app to use here to ensure true backups. Binary "nandroid" type backups are another feature I'd love to retain I tried Helium but it seems a bit wonky and seems to not backup all my apps. The asinine "Smart Sync" that Samsung provides also does NOT backup the actual data -- only SMS, call logs, pictures and other generic things. Removing any garbage apps is another reason I'd like root. And lastly, I would want to NOT trip Knox so that I can use Fingerprint with PayPal, AndroidPay, SamsungPay and other apps that check that bull**** tripwire.
But honestly, backup of data is the main reason.
The methods I've been reading seem convoluted and nowhere near as easy as Note 4 was to root. I figure if I can throw in $50 or $100 to help the cause, I'm all in...
i am for this. on a side note, i have been using my S7 unrooted since october and i must say im pretty suprised that i haven't missed root all that much.
So I currently have a Galaxy S5 and have had it for just over 2 years now and while it still works great, I am thinking of upgrading and the S7 seems to be the ticket, except for the whole locked bootloader thing. It has been the main thing that has kept me from getting this phone. I know it has been rooted but I was wondering, would some of you still get the S7 even with the whole locked bootloader issue so long as you could root it?
Just having a hard time deciding if I should upgrade or not.
Thanks for any info, advice, input.
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So I currently have a Galaxy S5 and have had it for just over 2 years now and while it still works great, I am thinking of upgrading and the S7 seems to be the ticket, except for the whole locked bootloader thing. It has been the main thing that has kept me from getting this phone. I know it has been rooted but I was wondering, would some of you still get the S7 even with the whole locked bootloader issue so long as you could root it?
Just having a hard time deciding if I should upgrade or not.
Thanks for any info, advice, input.
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I have had the S7 since launch, had an LG G3 for about a year and a Note II for 2 years prior. Note II was great for rooting and trying ROMs, G3 was ok too. I was a flash a flashaholic till I got this phone. The root process doesn't seem super stable but I haven't really looked at it in awhile and I am at a point where I just need the phone to work well and it does. The camera is phenomenal, I can block ads on the Samsung browser, and I can disable 90% of the bloat I don't want and this thing is a beast. The battery life is decent but that all depends on usage and I'm a heavy user. I don't think you can go wrong with an S7 if you just want to use it.
If you absolutely have to be able to root and unlock the bootloader to get performance and do things like run xposed, I think there are better choices. I do believe the HTC 10 has really good developer support and is unlockable with similar specs. Personally that would probably be my choice right now and I'm sure the price is going to come down.
Hope that helps.
Thank you. Yes, I have been looking at the HTC also and having been a fan in the past I was leaning towards it but I also love my S5 and my mom has an S7 and I really like it and I love the wireless charging. Yes, I do run xposed so that would be a must for me. Decisions... lol
I know that eventually one dev with have the time to root and possibly find a way to unlock the bootloader. I am starting this pot for the dev/s that can pull this off and maybe even get us some TWRP for ROMing.
I'll put down:
$25 for working root
$45 for a unlocked bootloader
And $100 for root, bootloader and TWRP
I do this for because I can't and to motive development.
good luck
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If no one has figured out how to unlock the S7 by now then this one isn't getting unlocked either.......
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If no one has figured out how to unlock the S7 by now then this one isn't getting unlocked either.......
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That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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There has been nothing to show that anyone is remotely close to unlocking the bootloader. Yes... anything is possible but this has been going on for a long while now. The devs that work on stuff here are uber talented, no doubt. It just doesn't look good at this point...
These bounties are pointless now-a-days. Samsung KNOX has a bug bounty program, they also work with Bug Crowd and HackerOne. Each of these programs offer some nice size payouts to people who find vulnerabilities in Samsung Products. Bootloader exploits would be a rather huge payout, because Samsung doesn't want people messing with the chance to make money on Samsung Pay. So IF there ever is a bootloader unlock discovered, pray said hacker does not go the way of the coin and still favors the open source community. Samsung is no ones fool, they'd gladly pay out a few $100,000 to some random dude in Russia than to loose out on secure devices that investors know has no current exploit for unlocking.
Or, I could be full of it, and we get our bootloaders unlocked tonight! While the porn star of our dreams gets cured of anything that AJAX can't get rid of, gives us the best night of our collective lives and.... the hot pocket we pull out of the microwave does not burn our mouths or have a frozen center. (here's hoping)
Love the positivity at the end but you are partially right. Money is what usually drives things now and maybe for developers as well seeing as this is a hobby more than a job, but I have seen some developers dedicated to this line of work (ie the M7SPR forums where they are on nougat on a 2013 device).
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These bounties are pointless now-a-days. Samsung KNOX has a bug bounty program, they also work with Bug Crowd and HackerOne. Each of these programs offer some nice size payouts to people who find vulnerabilities in Samsung Products. Bootloader exploits would be a rather huge payout, because Samsung doesn't want people messing with the chance to make money on Samsung Pay. So IF there ever is a bootloader unlock discovered, pray said hacker does not go the way of the coin and still favors the open source community. Samsung is no ones fool, they'd gladly pay out a few $100,000 to some random dude in Russia than to loose out on secure devices that investors know has no current exploit for unlocking.
Or, I could be full of it, and we get our bootloaders unlocked tonight! While the porn star of our dreams gets cured of anything that AJAX can't get rid of, gives us the best night of our collective lives and.... the hot pocket we pull out of the microwave does not burn our mouths or have a frozen center. (here's hoping)
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Interesting info. Thanks.
I only got the S8+ because I got tired of LG being so behind on technology and innovation. LG has usually always been rootable.
Hopefully the Pixel 2 will be better than this S8+ and be carried on T-Mobile. Pretty sure the few last remaining devs with superior skills on XDA will focus on that device.
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billydroid said:
That's not at all true. Sometimes ways are found.
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And sometimes not...
S7 is over a year old and hows that progressing for an unlock?
Security gets harder to work around each year..the days of things like safestrap and Loki are over
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force70 said:
And sometimes not...
S7 is over a year old and hows that progressing for an unlock?
Security gets harder to work around each year..the days of things like safestrap and Loki are over
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It's a matter of demand. The iPhone gets jail broken every time. The exynos version don't have to deal with this and have root and unlocked bl. That causes the need to be diminished. It's software and it can be cracked. It's a matter of getting the attention of people with the extreme skills to do it. I'm sure jcase and company could do it. But it is alot if work and they don't need the headache, understandable. But maybe since this phone sales are way higher than the S7 we might get it this time around. Coupled with the fact that every update breaks the process , if there is one. Who wants to deal with that?
No software security is foolproof, it just isn't. That doesn't mean someone will find the way. But it certainly is possible
My prediction, having seen how things are since the days of gakaxy note 1, is that 1) there will be no unlocking of the bootloader 2) an engineering kernel will leak soon which will allow rooting (like it happened for s7).
With all the flexibility worked into these newer phones reasons for rooting have become much fewer. I rooted my s7 when the rootable kernel became available but the kernel was buggy and needed a lot of tweaking, and some of my apps didn't work well with the root so I reverted. Honestly the phone ran so smoothly on the stock rom that I never missed root.
thowersome said:
I know that eventually one dev with have the time to root and possibly find a way to unlock the bootloader. I am starting this pot for the dev/s that can pull this off and maybe even get us some TWRP for ROMing.
I'll put down:
$25 for working root
$45 for a unlocked bootloader
And $100 for root, bootloader and TWRP
I do this for because I can't and to motive development.
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why would you mirror what's already being done?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/bounty-thread-snapdragon-usa-variants-t3598271
hazmad said:
why would you mirror what's already being done?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/bounty-thread-snapdragon-usa-variants-t3598271
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Hey thanks for the links but check your dates on when posts are made. This post was made 04/25/2017 and the linked post was made 04/29/2017. I don't care which post gets followed as long as someone can help the forum. Not trying to be an @$$ but always study sources before posting.
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Hey thanks for the links but check your dates on when posts are made. This post was made 04/25/2017 and the linked post was made 04/29/2017. I don't care which post gets followed as long as someone can help the forum. Not trying to be an @$$ but always study sources before posting.
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Post dates are like instruction manuals - I ignore them
These carrier sub-forums get little traffic. If you had posted this to the Main S8+ page, you would have been golden
Well I figured it was time to upgrade finally from my S5. Got the new S8.... and now my hand/thumb has to do yoga each time I want to pull the notifications bar down.... and I'm unsuccessful the majority of the time. The S8 is really just TOO tall and narrow.... The other issue I had with the S8 was the aspect ratio, wtf is up with 18.5 by 9 aspect ratio? All my videos and apps have black bars now!
These 2 issues, (phone too tall/narrow & aspect ratio) are why I'm debating going with the S7. I just got some hands on with it in the store and it feels a lot easier to get to that notification panel since the screen doesn't go all the way to the top. It's also a tad bit wider making it feel more sturdier. I have to say, I do not like the direction phones are going if they are going to be this tall and narrow to where you need TWO hands.
Anyway, coming to this forum I'm very glad to see the S7 community is thriving and root access appears to be very easy and there are a lot of dev support, including my favorite S5 rom, Stranglite. WOOOHOOO.
Does anyone know if there is suppose to be a new LG, Moto, or HTC around the corner I should wait for instead of going with the S7? I'm going to give the S8 a week to try, before turning it in for my S5 or the S7, so we'll see.
Considering I have know idea of any new flagship phones coming out I would go with the s7. It is a solid phone with no real drawbacks except the locked bootloader. That's why I recommend that you go with the G930F since I see that the bootloader will be unlocked anytime soon on the Us models.
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Theroose said:
It is a solid phone with no real drawbacks except the locked bootloader. That's why I recommend that you go with the G930F since I see that the bootloader will be unlocked anytime soon on the Us models.
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As long as it can be rooted and I can flash roms, I'm okay with it. Thought the bootloaded needed to be unlocked for that to happen, guess not. I see a bunch of roms and root guides for the S7 in the dev forums below.
DFA1 said:
As long as it can be rooted and I can flash roms, I'm okay with it. Thought the bootloaded needed to be unlocked for that to happen, guess not. I see a bunch of roms and root guides for the S7 in the dev forums below.
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Well I wouldn't call them full fledged ROMs considering they are just slightly modified stock firmware with some minor tweaks, but nothing compared to an actual custom Rom. There is also no custom recovery
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Trust me get the international version. I regret my decision of getting the Verizon model on launch. It's been over a year and still no unlocked bootloader. Words can not explain my frustration.
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You couldn't pay me enough to get the S8 for the reasons you quoted.
That being said...
There isn't a lot of custom ROM development for the S7 but don't let the fact that the ROMs available aren't full blown ROMs hold you back.
Stang5litre's ROM is highly customizable and has a ton of options. That and using FlashFire there isn't much you can't do with it. Granted, an unlocked bootloader would be great but it hasn't happened yet and it doesn't look good.
Another alternative for your S8, if you use Nova Launcher you can set a gesture (swipe down) to bring your notifications down but it will only work from the main screens of the phone.
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gadget! said:
Another alternative for your S8, if you use Nova Launcher you can set a gesture (swipe down) to bring your notifications down but it will only work from the main screens of the phone.
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Hey now! That might work. I've purchased Nova a while ago, just hadn't used it in a long time. Still would have an issue with reaching the buttons once the notification bar is pulled down.
I am scared all future phones are going this tall/narrow way
My opinion probably isn't popular. If it were me, I would still get the s7 but I would not root it. I think the way the phone behaves with the fixes etc rooted make the device worse than stock. I've had this phone for coming up on a year and a half and second to my Sony z3v this is one of the best smoothest and fastest experiences I have had on a stock device. Just get the cheapest sim unlocked one you can get and flash the 930U firmware, and it can be used on every US carrier.
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My opinion probably isn't popular. If it were me, I would still get the s7 but I would not root it. I think the way the phone behaves with the fixes etc rooted make the device worse than stock. I've had this phone for coming up on a year and a half and second to my Sony z3v this is one of the best smoothest and fastest experiences I have had on a stock device. Just get the cheapest sim unlocked one you can get and flash the 930U firmware, and it can be used on every US carrier.
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My only downside to rooting is not being able to use android pay. The free apps, game trainers, and wifi teether make rooting worth it for me.
I'm not worried about unlocked carrier phones, Verizon had the best coverage here in the US. Now if the unlocked works overseas I'd be game, but aren't these phones all global anyway?
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I haven't rooted either. It just doesn't get anything extra for me, but I do miss using TiBu though. But, with most phones these days, they come with excellent backup software that backs up the data/settings of the apps so I can easily restore if I have to wipe the phone for any reason.
Went with S7 flat. So much happier with its design and form factor. I can use one hand to for everything again.
The S8 infinity screen is a waste, especially since 99% of people use cases that negate the infinity look/feature .
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DFA1 said:
As long as it can be rooted and I can flash roms, I'm okay with it. Thought the bootloaded needed to be unlocked for that to happen, guess not. I see a bunch of roms and root guides for the S7 in the dev forums below.
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Unlocking the S7 series does not require root (this is especially true of the NA Snapdragon models) as there is actually a firmware switch right in the phone for this (OEM Unlock); once I unlocked via this switch, I started using U firmware (my particular phone is the unique-to-VZW gold SM-G930V model; however, it is running the May 17 SM-G930U firmware for the Tracfone S7; I switched to this firmware because I'm considering taking this S7 to Tracfone to replace my GNex which is there now). Rooting the phone is a separate process from unlocking it. The fact that the two ARE separate is what has driven folks buggy - we got used to having to do them at the same time. While you must have an unlocked phone to root it, you can unlock an S7 a lot easier than rooting it.