Hi,
The "ASUS Eee Pad Transformer" looks like a good tablet for me.
It's a netbook and a tablet in one computer.
But I don't like Android as a desktop OS, so I wonder if it was possible to install Ubuntu 11.04 or another Linux dist on the device with a functional touch screen?
The device has USB, right? So it must be possible to boot a Linux dist compiled for the architecture from a USB key?
It would be so nice!
In concept yes. Will it be a usable implementation? Probably not.
I would LOVE LOVE LOVE this thing to dual boot into Linux Mint.
My guess is that it would be theoretically possible to install Ubuntu 11.04 "Netbook" addition as it is aimed at ARM architecture. Tegra 2 apparently supports Ubuntu which should make this easier. The screen also has the perfect resolution to run Ubuntu as well.
11.04 is released Tomorrow right?
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They may only have preinstall images for TI chips. I've looked into the betas, and they have a compress partition that has to be uncompressed on the first boot. But the boot is in a fat32 partition with a kernel for the TI arm chip and uboot.
It should be possible.
Some work was done on getting Ubuntu up and running on a Toshiba AC100, which is a Tegra-2 based "smartbook" running Android (see here for details).
However, IMO a version of NVFlash that works on the Transformer will be required before this can be taken much further.
Regards,
Dave
louisdk said:
Hi,
But I don't like Android as a desktop OS,
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It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
FrayAdjacent said:
It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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I know that netbooks ain't made for hardcore tasks like gaming, photo- or video editing, but I find Android (have only tried 2.x) too limited for netbook use.
On my current netbook I like a full Linux desktop, so I browse the web, check mails, use LibreOffice, use VLC and other light activities and I really can't way I shouldn't be allowed to get the real PC experience on a netbook if the hardware specs allows it? Especially when new user interfaces like Unity that is perfect for tablets and small screens have been released.
I've spotted this new device. I Think that the ARM-version of Ubuntu used on this device will be public avaible and I hope that it's possible to install it on the Asus Eee Transformer.
OMGUBUNTU UK /2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
louisdk said:
I've spotted this new device. I Think that the ARM-version of Ubuntu used on this device will be public avaible and I hope that it's possible to install it on the Asus Eee Transformer.
OMGUBUNTU UK /2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/meet-the-ubuntu-running-dual-core-arm-desktop-trim-slice/
since I can post links
//edit, getting an arm version of debian/ubuntu aint the issue. The issue is graphics. Now as I've posted earlier on this forum, nvidia has released linux4tegra. Although unsupported, it has a tegra_drv for xorg.
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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If I can start up an app that connects to localhost and gives me access to everything from advanced networking/software development tools/image editing and conversion tools/movie editing/diagnostics/etc/etc/etc/etc. Why wouldn't I want to? I can have a device which instead of being locked to android apps also has a MASSIVE library of tools that's been developed over many many years.
And they are not designed for touchscreen, but guess what, this tablet has a keyboard and a touchpad
eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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So I can run an IDE and develop apps for honeycomb...
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Why not just develop an IDE for Android to use on an Android Tab? But I too would love to use the new Ubuntu 11.04 on the TF since Unity supports touch screens
eviltuna said:
I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook?
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I for one don't have and don't want a netbook or laptop. I prefer using one device (a tablet in this case with a keyboard or keyboard dock) for many purposes. It's cheaper for me and I have much less things to carry / charge / store etc.
hitman_dreams said:
Why not just develop an IDE for Android to use on an Android Tab?
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Eclipse is an IDE made by ibm, development started 2001, and it's still being developed today.
I dont think you realize what your saying when you say "just develop an IDE".
FrayAdjacent said:
It's not a desktop OS. With the keyboard dock, it's still just a netbook. Netbooks aren't really supposed to be as 'functional' as desktops. If you want desktop functionality, get a desktop or a large laptop.
Netbooks and now tablets are what I refer to as 'compromise' devices. You compromise power and function for portability and convenience. If you need more than a tablet or netbook can provide, you need to be shopping bigger.
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Not even! Check out the Samsung X120 ( I have one ) and the Acer Ferrari One 200 ( I have one of these too! )
Dual core+ netbooks have NO problems running full desktop applications at the same time as multi-tab browsing...
Running Microsoft Server 2008 or Windows 7.
I've run Adobe Premier rendering video at the same time as Office 2010 along with Chrome running 20 tabs and 3DS MAX 2011 open no lag..
The X120 has a 5 hour+ battery life too, the newer i3 and i5 and even i7 based Netbooks are no compromise on desktop performance.
I even have a HDMI out and VGA out on the X120...
Anyways, the sooner we get / make Android 3.0+ based tablets dual boot Ubuntu 11 the better... Then tablets can finally act as both development work horses and Android tabs...
Chris
eviltuna said:
Can someone explain to me why peeps keep wanting to install Ubuntu onto their phones/tablets? I mean isn't it more usable to just install it on a netbook? I understand for some people its just the fun in the challenge of cramming it in to another device but is there any other use for Ubuntu on a tablet like the TF?
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In a nut shell, imagine the portability of a tablet with the power of all the items with Ubuntu..years of apps and developement along with the ability to sit on "the THRONE" if you know what I mean.... the tablet is evolutionary for the fact it is just another device, I do not know if you use Ubuntu, if you do then a question is not why but when and how. Also, you have a option when / if / Ubuntu does come to the transformer, don't use it. Great development does not happen by asking why it should, great development comes by asking why the hell not. Just my 2 cents worth.'
Of interest ....http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/...e-arm-cluster-server-box-for-ubuntu-20110613/
So, if we have control over the boot rom of the Fire, would it be possible to boot a linux desktop image?
Running CM7 on my Fire, works and looks awesome
Also, Amazon Prime video works great inside my browser with Root
I would like this as well. I know you can run it inside a virtual machine though.
https://www.linux.com/news/software...oid-drivers-to-be-included-in-linux-33-kernel
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There are OMAP4 Ubuntu images available for both 11.04 and 11.10.
Obviously that's no substitute for the built-in kernel level stuff but at least there's some progress on that front already.
I'm finding Android to be quite limiting as it's still basically a phone OS that has only fairly recently been built for tablets. It isn't bad by any sense of the term but when Ubuntu is out there with touchscreen support for both desktops and netbooks it sure would be nice to have on the Kindle Fire.
So many of the Android versions of applications are very limited when compared to their desktop/netbook counterparts and given the specs of tablets these days they can at least rival netbooks.
Not that I have a problem with android ICS, just curious..
will windows 8 have the ability to run on our thinkpad tablets?
Is there hardware differences between the Android and the projected windows model coming out in the future?
Thanks for the insight...
Windows 8 RT (arm version) is locked down really tight, I hear rumors of encrypted bootloader on the devices similar to ours on the TPT (256 bit encryption) to stop people from doing just this. so short answer no, you'll just have to buy a windows 8 slate if you want one. or hope that Secure boot keys start falling out of the sky
How about waiting for Android x86 alongside Windows 8 on the TPT 2 (though it didnt look like it had a pen, AARRRGGGG!)
That would be most excellent I have dreamed about something like that, if you aren't looking for the whole amazing android UI you can run Blue stacks, its pretty damn good for a beta and i run it on my Dell XT2 tablet, it has an n-trig digitizer just like the TPT and works decently well.
did any try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172838
hi, I'm making my mind and starting to save my money to buy Win8 Tablet, I saw a lot of variants, something with ARM processors and others with Intel processors.
Intel will be my choice for optimal performance, what are the tablets that will carry Intel CPU? even if rumoured
ARM will be your more traditional type tablets with the more traditional price ie 10" thin slab for about £350. The Intel variants your looking at hybrid ultrabooks. Slightly thicker with keyboards etc. An example would be the Sony duo 11. That said MS will have both intel and arm versions of the surface though intel is again thicker. It depends if your trying to replace a pc or just want a tablet? There not really the same thing or in the same price bracket. You will be looking at about £200+ extra for intel hence being more ultrabooks with touchscreens than tablets.
I brought a acer w500 for £250 from hmv.
It works great with windows 8.
It's cheap and runs smoothly.
If you want a cheap windows tablet this is the way to go.
Iv not seen a windows tablet at a price lower than this.
Also it includes the £15 upgrade price to windows 8.
From my fingers to your face.
interesting thread. can any android tablet have windows 8 installed? or do android devices not have ssd/normal hdds in them?
thanks
yeah im looking to replace my laptop with an Ultrabook or hybrid, i dont mind paying extra for optimal performance.
Sony Duo 11 looks promising, waiting for companys to show more
I don't know, that Surface tablet looks pretty cool. Especially with the keyboard cover. If Microsoft prices the Surface RT at $200, I'm picking up one for sure...and will probably buy again when the Ivy bridge surface drops next year.
....Sony has a habit of overpricing everything. No go in this recession environment.
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Convertable Laptop/Tablet
Hi
For the last three years I have been using a HP Touchsmart TX2Z which is a convertable Laptop/Tablet.
It wouldn't compare favourably to current products but based on my experience, I recommend using this form factor as a primary PC. I use it as a laptop if I'm writing lots of emails or a document like a business plan but then as a tablet if I'm just reading emails or documents, browsing the web or in meetings and want quick access to information, agendas, minutes, etc.
Windows 8 and Office 2013 make it a lot more useful with "Touch Mode" and the better support for touch control throughout the OS.
God bless
andrew-in-woking
just in case anyone is on the fence...
I was looking to get a Windows 8 tablet/laptop convertible to replace me work desktop.
I got the XPS 12 and I've gotten EVERY app I use for work to install, including VMWare Workstation.
So far, I love it. I have the Toshiba Dynadock 3 coming Tuesday and I will have the challenge of getting all of my peripherals hooked up.
If ANYONE is on the fence, GET IT
I have to agree.
I got mine about 2 weeks ago. Freaking love this machine.
Sold my desktop and iPad because I am mainly on the XPS 12 for everything now.
For my daytime office work, I got the Targus Dual Video USB 3 Docking Station to compliment my XPS 12.