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NVIDIA Releases MeeGo-compatible Video Drivers for ASUS Transformers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188568
I would be interested in seeing Meego in action on a tablet.
What is Meego?
Meego is a linux based OS that uses the Qt framework (C++) for the UI. There is already a lot of apps that are compatible with the platform.

Now THIS I can totally dig. I was eager for it on the Desire Z, and maybe on my Inspire 4g, but DEFINITELY would love this on a tablet. Praying that some of the super talented devs hop on this.

this would indeed be very cool, i would be willing to part with some cash to whomever can get this working

Just curious, this is the same as the new Nokia N9 is getting right? The OS that's designed around 3 screens, and looks totally awesome?! If it is, here's a better look at it.
I hope so, I think the TF would run this incredibly and it would just be pure win. The Nokia N9 only has a 1GHz (i think) single core, and the TF has a dual core, which is easily clocked to 1.7 GHz. I really hope this can happen.
A little off topic, but MeeGo sounds a lot like a UI that was posted in the Android section, but was dropped because the developers couldn't get around a few bumps. I think it was called Kite UI or something like that..

Myriad Alien Dalvik for Meego
Run Android apps on Meego

SwiftLegend said:
Just curious, this is the same as the new Nokia N9 is getting right? The OS that's designed around 3 screens, and looks totally awesome?! If it is, here's a better look at it.
I hope so, I think the TF would run this incredibly and it would just be pure win. The Nokia N9 only has a 1GHz (i think) single core, and the TF has a dual core, which is easily clocked to 1.7 GHz. I really hope this can happen.
A little off topic, but MeeGo sounds a lot like a UI that was posted in the Android section, but was dropped because the developers couldn't get around a few bumps. I think it was called Kite UI or something like that..
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N9 has a custom user interface. It doesn't even run standard Meego, from what I remember. Standard Meego UI doesn't look as nice as n9's UI. Also, n9 has a smaller screen and resolution, so it probably won't look good on 10 in screen.

aligatro2010 said:
N9 has a custom user interface. It doesn't even run standard Meego, from what I remember. Standard Meego UI doesn't look as nice as n9's UI. Also, n9 has a smaller screen and resolution, so it probably won't look good on 10 in screen.
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Dang, I'm really liking the N9. It's a really nice looking phone and a sleek OS. Too bad Verizon and Nokia don't play nice.

Thanks for the news, but the title of the post is bit confusing, don't you think ? From what I understood, nVidia released a set of drivers for a mini PC product called trimslice (running ubuntu ??), which also happens to have a Mego port (which can benefit from those drivers) . But they didn’t release it for the transformer, nor there is any mego port for the transformer, so this release has nothing to do with the transformer.... (as the title suggest )

Yaaay! I just wish I had more time to try and make Gentoo run... To all "We have ubuntu now" people:
1) The current Ubuntu image doesn't have these drivers
2) These drivers aren't guaranteed work with Ubuntu's patched kernel
3) I don't like Ubuntu

too bad they arent for the tramsformer i would have loved to try meego. i heard good thing about it
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K900 said:
Yaaay! I just wish I had more time to try and make Gentoo run... To all "We have ubuntu now" people:
1) The current Ubuntu image doesn't have these drivers
2) These drivers aren't guaranteed work with Ubuntu's patched kernel
3) I don't like Ubuntu
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+1 I totally think a slimmed down and customized distro like Gentoo would be great for the transformer.

brando56894 said:
+1 I totally think a slimmed down and customized distro like Gentoo would be great for the transformer.
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I would question the concept of a slim full functional gentoo release on an processor like this. While there are likely enough binaries to get you by, the concept of the compile your own distribution with special optimizations would make it difficult to do against the transformer. Been a while since I was using gentoo so maybe there is a full functional small installation model now but not sure how well it would work for a tablet.

The Meego OS
The Meego OS has been around a while and is an established companion on all the major brand netbooks/laptops/tablets as an instant on option as it boots in around 5 seconds under the guise of Splashtop OS. you can download meego/splashtop at any time from the website and there is an sku for almost anything even tablets, i run splashtop as a dual boot with win7 for when i just fancy listening to music or surfing the web. Just google meego or Splashtop
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OK so it this ready or being ported to the transformer? I order me a Transformer yesterday and would love Meego/xbmc on this thing.. i have meego/xbmc on my netbook but on a tablet would be KILLER..

Windows 8 Build 81xx

I was wondering if any of the developers here have been following the Windows 8 stuff? I just read and article that they are going to release the first build of it this week at the big Microsoft thingy thats going on. They are releasing the build to developers, AND to the public!
Now, since Win 8 will be ARM supported, I'm wondering if were going to be able to put it on our A500's. I had originally wanted to buy a W500, but when your buying off craigslist you get what you find, and i love my A500 plenty fine, but i've always liked playing with the new Windows versions coming out, and the OS is pretty much designed for touch and tablet.
I know i'll be keeping my eyes open one way or another and hitting download as soon as i see they open a beta build up for us.

I don't think our A500's will be supported by MS, but since there aren't any quad-core tablets out there yet (production-wise, that I know of), MS will probably be using the tegra 2, which means it should be at least compatible.
So, it should hopefully run, but I think it's going to require a bit of hacking.

I really doubt that it will run on our a500's for one reason, hard drive space! Look up windows 8 demo on you tube and you will see that it is very similar to windows 7, just with a tablet friendly ui. You can still access good old windows with the touch of a button. I do have to admit that its looks pretty slick.

If you read into things, windows 8 is supposed to be -very- small operating wise, it's designed to gear towards tablet interfaces, it is able to run off of a flash drive.

I think our Acer Iconia will be one of the better suitors of Windows 8 thanks to its USB port. I would love to have Windows 8 ported on my Acer, especially if they are giving the build to the public.

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I really doubt that it will run on our a500's for one reason, hard drive space! Look up windows 8 demo on you tube and you will see that it is very similar to windows 7, just with a tablet friendly ui. You can still access good old windows with the touch of a button. I do have to admit that its looks pretty slick.
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Windows 7 only takes like 10GB fresh, with a good compression, or just a 32GB SD card for more space, it'd run just fine. Space isn't an issue.

They are, the BUILD conference is at 9am today, and they are supposed to release it to public and developers at it today.

I'll still love to see it runs on a quad core thing, with the ability to turn down part of the processor or dramatically turn down the clock when running on battery to save power.
I used this A500 long enough to realize that Android is just a toy. To be serious, it has a long way to go. It is so convenient to use for before nap browsing, that I don't turn on my laptop at night after all, but if you tell me I only have this for the week, I'll just say no. Better to bring both with me. Windows 7 is essential for me.

ctiger said:
I'll still love to see it runs on a quad core thing, with the ability to turn down part of the processor or dramatically turn down the clock when running on battery to save power.
I used this A500 long enough to realize that Android is just a toy. To be serious, it has a long way to go. It is so convenient to use for before nap browsing, that I don't turn on my laptop at night after all, but if you tell me I only have this for the week, I'll just say no. Better to bring both with me. Windows 7 is essential for me.
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From a day-to-day use stand point, this just isn't true. However, if you need a power house, then I agree with you. But getting this tablet was one of the reasons for getting rid of my netbook. Outside of heavy gaming, which I don't do anyways, I do not see anything I can do on the netbook that I couldn't do on the tablet for everyday functions (except print, but I almost never do that either lol)

I got rid of my laptop (Was going out anyway) And got the a500 instead of another laptop. So far im pleased, i wished Skype would get working, i'd use it a lot more. I have a pretty nice powerhouse for a desktop so for anything that i need to do with some real power, gaming and such, i can sit at it for without a problem.
Id love to get a microsoft arc keyboard or something, small enough to use on my iconia, cause right now, since i have a laptop stand still, i use a old apple keyboard via the USB, its easier for typing more after all.
I'd like to see windows 8 on it, simply to see what i could do with it, i like toying with it, my A500 is my toy, rather than a significant use item, i can do what i need on it, so it serves its purpose, but it was still more a toy then anything else when i got it.

fermunky said:
From a day-to-day use stand point, this just isn't true. However, if you need a power house, then I agree with you. But getting this tablet was one of the reasons for getting rid of my netbook. Outside of heavy gaming, which I don't do anyways, I do not see anything I can do on the netbook that I couldn't do on the tablet for everyday functions (except print, but I almost never do that either lol)
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The one thing missing for me is the ability to develop android applications on the iconia. It's funny that you need another OS to code for Android.
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Well unfortunately the builds thate came out were only on desktop uses, not for the ARM processor, guess was cross our fingers and wait.

Just like WP7 is limited to certain chipsets, I believe the ARM version might only be limited to Tegra 3 and some other faster processors.

I read somewhere from ms that win8 arm will run on many chips.as well as tegra. But not sure where this article went.I do know it was direct from Microsoft.
Here is the link to information
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

Preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running on an AMD chip, not a Tegra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon

tkolev said:
The one thing missing for me is the ability to develop android applications on the iconia. It's funny that you need another OS to code for Android.
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Regardless of OS, if your day-to-day function is coding/dev work, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing it from a tablet anyways Thats like a mechanic trying to run a full garage with a 25 piece "mechanics" tool set from Walmart lol. I am a project manager and I couldn't imagine not having a full laptop to do what I need it to do. I do also have a PC at home, hooked to my TV. But if I was not running an IIS server or if I didn't do web design work, I would probably not have anything else at home but a tablet.

fermunky said:
Regardless of OS, if your day-to-day function is coding/dev work, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing it from a tablet anyways Thats like a mechanic trying to run a full garage with a 25 piece "mechanics" tool set from Walmart lol. I am a project manager and I couldn't imagine not having a full laptop to do what I need it to do. I do also have a PC at home, hooked to my TV. But if I was not running an IIS server or if I didn't do web design work, I would probably not have anything else at home but a tablet.
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Well that's the only thing I'm still doing on my laptop since I got the tablet. Would be nice if I had the chance of doing it with the tablet too and not bring both when going on trips.
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kjy2010 said:
Preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running on an AMD chip, not a Tegra:
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That's not our tablet. That's the Acer Iconia Tab W500 not the A500. The A500 runs NVIDIA Tegra 2.
In any case, i'm still really hopeful for getting Win 8 onto the A500. With the ARM support, there has to be a way that this can be done eventually. I was actually starting to think that I might have to sell my Iconia and get a new tablet in March when its released. But now only time will tell. But just the possibility of running Windows here is awesome. =D

stefan2305 said:
That's not our tablet. That's the Acer Iconia Tab W500 not the A500. The A500 runs NVIDIA Tegra 2
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No schiznit really?!
Here I thought my tablet had an Atom processor in it!

Well here is a small update. It does not help us Iconia A500 people, but it does help people with other tablets! And puts out hope that if Microsoft delivers a preview for the ARM version of the OS we may be able to test it out some.
Here is the link to the article showing how to install the developer preview of Win 8 on a Win 7 running tablet.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-build-your-own-windows-8-tablet-using-existing-hardware/

can you install android on windows?

Hi, I have been waiting and waiting for an Android device to incorporate WACOM but the only one so far is the lenovo thinkpad....so I was wondering a few things:
1) If you have one...is the pen pressure and all that very very good like it is on other wacom devices??
2) Although I have been considering this device, I am still stuck with wanting Windows or some other operating system that will let me draw and edit on programs such as GIMP or Photoshop etc.....so ...my next question is: If I get a windows based tablet with WACOM capabilities, would it be possible to have a full functioning Android OS installed that will be able to use the multi-touch capabilities as well as the WACOM pen input?? If so, what is the quality when using the Android OS? Does it work flawlessly? Can you have other features such as forward and rear camera functionality...etc??
3) Pretty much here is what I want and you tell me if you know it exists or if you think it can be done by installing certain things.
* Some major OS..(windows, mac, linux, etc) that can use full-fledged programs for graphic art..etc...
* Has multi-touch as well as Wacom capabilities
* Has cameras
* Will have Android OS as well as above OS and Android will work just like it does on the phones and tablets.
Pretty much I want android and only OS for major applications that can't be done on android......
Maybe I'm dreaming (along with everyone else) but I thought I might stop in and ask the Pros ....
Thanks

My nephew who is an exceptional artist and draws amazing portraits and abstract images using sketch book on his sprint HTC Android phone (not blowing smoke he uses his fingers to perform all the intricate details) went nuts when I showed him my TPT. He said it felt great and he would not let it go through the holiday visit. He gave it two thumbs up. Coming from him says a lot. I am sure it won't compare to WACOM hardware but he drew a nice abstract piece on my tablet using sketch book pro. My jaw dropped I could not believe he did this using my TPT.
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@carinlynchin : I think it's just a dream.
You can also wait for win8 tablet, it seems promising

Blanco954 said:
My nephew who is an exceptional artist and draws amazing portraits and abstract images using sketch book on his sprint HTC Android phone (not blowing smoke he uses his fingers to perform all the intricate details) went nuts when I showed him my TPT. He said it felt great and he would not let it go through the holiday visit. He gave it two thumbs up. Coming from him says a lot. I am sure it won't compare to WACOM hardware but he drew a nice abstract piece on my tablet using sketch book pro. My jaw dropped I could not believe he did this using my TPT.
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Thanks! What is the TPT

TPT = ThinkPad Tablet

carinlynchin said:
1) If you have one...is the pen pressure and all that very very good like it is on other wacom devices??
2) Although I have been considering this device, I am still stuck with wanting Windows or some other operating system that will let me draw and edit on programs such as GIMP or Photoshop etc.....so ...my next question is: If I get a windows based tablet with WACOM capabilities, would it be possible to have a full functioning Android OS installed that will be able to use the multi-touch capabilities as well as the WACOM pen input?? If so, what is the quality when using the Android OS? Does it work flawlessly? Can you have other features such as forward and rear camera functionality...etc??
3) Pretty much here is what I want and you tell me if you know it exists or if you think it can be done by installing certain things.
* Some major OS..(windows, mac, linux, etc) that can use full-fledged programs for graphic art..etc...
* Has multi-touch as well as Wacom capabilities
* Has cameras
* Will have Android OS as well as above OS and Android will work just like it does on the phones and tablets.
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Cellphones/Android tablets have ARM based processors.
Laptops/Desktops have x86/x64 based processors.
Android is an ARM based OS.
Windows is x86 or x64 based OS.
Windows 8 will have both ARM and x86/64 based iterations.
At the current point there is no way to run windows and android on the same device unless you use an emulator like bluestack(which prolly won't run many android apps). Windows 8 will be able to run on ARM devices (if you can unlock the bootloader and find the right drivers) but in the meantime your best bet will be either remote desktop (which allows you to remotely access your x86/64 machine) or ubuntu (which has been recompiled for ARM... if you can find the drivers).
Honestly, the art programs for android are amazing. You may not need windows as badly as you think.
Sketchbook Pro
Photoshop Mobile
Doodleroid
Sketch n Draw

yea thanks...i actually have sketchbook pro and I really like it but as far as photo editing...what is equivalent to photoshop or gimp (i use gimp bc photoshop is too expensive for me since its only a hobby)....
also what would be the best android device for pressure sensitivity and as close to wacom as possible?
I came upon somehting that I think beats ntrig possibly.... called the IPEN....currently it doesn't support pressure sensitivity but the IPEN 2 will....then they have a PENBOOK but I don't know about getting another windows device...i really like android but would be willing to get an IPAD if I could get the IPEN2 because its only supported on Ipads (apple stuff) or the PENBOOk......look up the vids for it...its pretty darn cool....
see i'm desperate to find what I want here w/i the next month bc its tax season ....and any other time I can't warrant spending that much money

carinlynchin said:
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Samsung will release the next Galaxy Tab with the S-Pen, which is made by Wacom.
Just wait a few more weeks. It will definitely be worth it! The IPEN solution looks OK, but will only work with the included software and you can't get around the stupid limitations of iOS (for example no way to export files other than mailing them to yourself).
The N-Trig pen actually works quite well, but has its quirks (like all N-Trig products).
I'm very confident that the Samsung + Wacom combination will be by far the best solution.

tableteer said:
Samsung will release the next Galaxy Tab with the S-Pen, which is made by Wacom.
Just wait a few more weeks. It will definitely be worth it! The IPEN solution looks OK, but will only work with the included software and you can't get around the stupid limitations of iOS (for example no way to export files other than mailing them to yourself).
The N-Trig pen actually works quite well, but has its quirks (like all N-Trig products).
I'm very confident that the Samsung + Wacom combination will be by far the best solution.
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When does the Samsung with s pen come out? I haven't seen that anywhere...o heard that they wanted to use out for future releases but didn't see any plans...can you send me a link please?

I called samsung but they didn't know about it

It's not official, but confirmed by a Samsung executive. No release dates, but MWC is a good guess. Maybe a bit later. Either way, I think it's worth the wait, because it's MUCH better than N-Trig or iPen.
"I think a pen interface continues to make a lot of sense across a number of screen sizes, like the larger is more obvious of those. That’s about as specific as I can be without announcing a product."
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Source: http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-s-pen-stylus-could-show-up-in-tablets-next-25210619/

thanks so much!

[Q] Dual Boot Windows 8 and JB / ICS

Hi Guys,
I really want to get a dual booting tablet, as this means I will able to use the fantastic touch-based applications that Android has to offer, but when the need arises, I can use the Microsoft Office Suite or similar programmes, that are only available on Windows .
My two possibilities at the moment are either the Asus Transformer Infinity or the Windows Surface Pro, which comes out in three months. I know that the Samsung Series 7 Slate can be dual-booted, but I would prefer a tablet with a nice keyboard dock.
Do any of you guys know if Android X86 will work with the Surface Pro, and if so, with which functionalities?
Thanks

DarkyHero said:
Hi Guys,
I really want to get a dual booting tablet, as this means I will able to use the fantastic touch-based applications that Android has to offer, but when the need arises, I can use the Microsoft Office Suite or similar programmes, that are only available on Windows .
My two possibilities at the moment are either the Asus Transformer Infinity or the Windows Surface Pro, which comes out in three months. I know that the Samsung Series 7 Slate can be dual-booted, but I would prefer a tablet with a nice keyboard dock.
Do any of you guys know if Android X86 will work with the Surface Pro, and if so, with which functionalities?
Thanks
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or you could just use bluestacks and get away from the extra hassle. Not only is it less grief the having to reboot every time you want another os its also way more secure as it runs in its own sandbox and if you get infected just uninstall and go again as it wont be able to get to anything else on the device and brick it etc.
If you go for an AMD based tablet (non announced that I know of but AMD said they are already selling the oems for release tablets) then it runs with hardly any performance loss and in full screen with full touch everything just like it was android.
That said I do see the point as you can get all sorts of custom roms etc to play with .
I would be surprised if MS didn't try to lock you out from running other os's on the surface pro with some method in the bios but I don't think it will take much to get around as its basically just a laptop with a click on keyboard.

lumpaywk said:
or you could just use bluestacks and get away from the extra hassle. Not only is it less grief the having to reboot every time you want another os its also way more secure as it runs in its own sandbox and if you get infected just uninstall and go again as it wont be able to get to anything else on the device and brick it etc.
If you go for an AMD based tablet (non announced that I know of but AMD said they are already selling the oems for release tablets) then it runs with hardly any performance loss and in full screen with full touch everything just like it was android.
That said I do see the point as you can get all sorts of custom roms etc to play with .
I would be surprised if MS didn't try to lock you out from running other os's on the surface pro with some method in the bios but I don't think it will take much to get around as its basically just a laptop with a click on keyboard.
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I already have the HTC One X, which is an Android phone, so I would like to sync my apps with the tablet. I have tried Bluestacks before, and I don't think the performance is the greatest, but that's just my opinion.
Which AMD tablets are you talking about?

Best Windows 8 x64 tablet to dual boot Android

So I'm wanting to completely replace my laptop with a Windows x64 tablet. I also want to dual boot it with Android 4.4.2. In yall's opinion, what current Windows 8 x64 is best capable of doing this? In order to dual boot does the Windows tablet have to meet certain requirements?
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Anyone?
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johnnyham89 said:
So I'm wanting to completely replace my laptop with a Windows x64 tablet. I also want to dual boot it with Android 4.4.2. In yall's opinion, what current Windows 8 x64 is best capable of doing this? In order to dual boot does the Windows tablet have to meet certain requirements?
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I would recommend the Asus Transformer Book Trio although it is only Android 4.2.2 at the moment and nobody has successfully rooted it yet.
It provides Win8.x in the dock and Android in the detachable screen. The 2 systems are completely discreet and can be used together (shared screen) or separately as an Android tablet and a desktop (with attached monitor) for Windows.
Personally I love it although it is a tad pricey. The only fail about it is the inclusion of an old spin drive instead of an SSD, but I pulled the 500GB HDD and installed a Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD. The thing cold boots in 7 seconds and restarts in 10.

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I would recommend the Asus Transformer Book Trio although it is only Android 4.2.2 at the moment and nobody has successfully rooted it yet.
It provides Win8.x in the dock and Android in the detachable screen. The 2 systems are completely discreet and can be used together (shared screen) or separately as an Android tablet and a desktop (with attached monitor) for Windows.
Personally I love it although it is a tad pricey. The only fail about it is the inclusion of an old spin drive instead of an SSD, but I pulled the 500GB HDD and installed a Samsung EVO 840 500GB SSD. The thing cold boots in 7 seconds and restarts in 10.
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I had no idea that something like this existed!! Thanks! You were not lying about it being pricey. I'm really looking to put Android on a Windows 8 tablet myself. Have you heard anything about the Acer w700?
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Yes, the Book Trio is about the ONLY option, even because seems Google and MS and effectively killed the prospects of future dual-boot hardware. Despite its overprice and some ridiculous low-end specs such as slouch-slow spinning hard drive and low RAM, the Trio is an amazing device overall and I've been wanting to buy one for long time myself.. specially now that all the kinks are gone and works very well under Windows 8.1.1.
THE ONLY NO NOs are:
1) Asus positively doesn't care about this device and will NEVER publish any Android Firmware updates so you will be forever stuck with 4.2.2, and worse.
2) No one can get this rooted! No root, no deal. Period.

I think a tablet running Windows 8.1 is really all anyone would need... isn't it?
Windows 8 double interface (classic desktop and modern ui) is just intended to be a "native dual-mode" so you wouldn't need to dual-boot two different OSs so you can use it as a pure-tablet or as a mini-pc.
I understand that Windows Store is not as good as Play Store, but really I can't see anything you could do on an Android tablet that you couldn't in an even better way on a Windows 8.1 one, and anyway there are a lot of android emulators out there, in case you really need one.
Am I wrong?

Uncle Scrooge said:
I think a tablet running Windows 8.1 is really all anyone would need... isn't it?
Windows 8 double interface (classic desktop and modern ui) is just intended to be a "native dual-mode" so you wouldn't need to dual-boot two different OSs so you can use it as a pure-tablet or as a mini-pc.
I understand that Windows Store is not as good as Play Store, but really I can't see anything you could do on an Android tablet that you couldn't in an even better way on a Windows 8.1 one, and anyway there are a lot of android emulators out there, in case you really need one.
Am I wrong?
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Unfortunately yes you are wrong. There are numerous apps that are not available for Windows that are available for Android that do not work in any of the emulators. I strongly considered getting a Surface Pro 2 and using an emulator for the apps that I must have, but all of my must have apps refused to run, or run properly, in the various emulators I tried.
I solved the issue by buying my Trio and have no regrets. I get all of my Android love and can still switch over to Windows to do the work related tasks when I need to. I have actually found some nice apps in Windows, as well as some less than stellar ones. I am a fond user of Tapatalk and can tell you that I prefer to use Tapatalk on Android than Windows. Although Tapatalk is prettier in Windows it is significantly slower. I can puruse through the forums on Android with ease, but the same actions are painfully slow in Windows.
I have several games I play in Android that have no counterpart in Windows. Gmail has no Windows client that is on par with Google's. You cannot even archive in the most popular Gmail client in Windows.
Obviously, you are a fan of Windows based on your subjective statement that there isn't anything you couldn't do in an even better way in Windows than Android and that is great. Choice is what makes technology wonderful. I recognize that both platforms excel at certain tasks and fail at others so I focus on using the OS that is the best for each task.
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Kasush said:
I have several games I play in Android that have no counterpart in Windows. Gmail has no Windows client that is on par with Google's. You cannot even archive in the most popular Gmail client in Windows.
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Most of your post is a matter of personal opinions so I won't dispute much else. But I personally just use the built in mail app for GMail.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Most of your post is a matter of personal opinions so I won't dispute much else. But I personally just use the built in mail app for GMail.
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I have no wish to argue, but can you archive Gmail content using Windows mail client? Metromail cannot, despite being the top ranked Gmail client in the store.
Additionally, I intentionally used terms that were objective to keep personal opinion out of my post. I compared the performance of apps across the two platforms and referred to apps that are not available natively that I use regularly. I also acknowledged that both platforms have good and bad points.
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I'm not a fan of Windows in general, I just think that Windows is much better for tablets (just because you have almost a full-featured PC) than android, in general.
I think the Mail app in Windows 8 works just fine for Gmail, but this is just my personal opinion.
I'm a fan of Android for my smartphone instead and wouldn't ever consider replacing it with a Windows Phone

I think my Windows Asus T100 and Android Nexus 7 each have their pros and cons - but I think the hassles of dual boot would be more annoying. E.g., even if there was an app for a website on Android, rebooting to use that would be more annoying than simply viewing the website in Windows. And even if say Gmail is better on Android, do I want to have to reboot just to check email?
The Trio is more interesting in that it can apparently run both together, but because the Windows portion relies on technology in the keyboard, this only works when in laptop mode - you can't access Windows at all when in tablet mode. I think this would lose one of the big advantages of a convertible - being able to pull off the tablet from the keyboard to say, show/view some photos, or a PDF.
Also consider that the Trio is significantly more expensive than say the T100 and a Nexus 7 put together. It's also heavier too (1.7Kg for Trio; versus 1.1Kg for T100 and 0.3Kg for Nexus 7). So one option if you want the best of both platforms is just to get two devices.
Gmail works with IMAP, so use any email client you like.
There are less website-wrapper apps for Windows, but I never really understood this - if using an app is so much better than the website, why aren't there apps for Windows laptop/PC users? I though the whole point of mobile apps was because devices were too rubbish/underpowered to support the website. But if you've got a PC tablet, not an oversized fisher price phone, you can just run the website