Verizon has confirmed that they will eventually bring Android 5.0 Lollipop to the Droid Turbo. My question is this, as a Tmobile (Att, Cricket, whatever) user, will we also receive the update?
Does anyone else have any experience using Verizon phones on other networks, but stiill receiving the Software update when they become available for the phone? I'm not too concerned about not having root or an unlocked bootloader as long as Lollipop comes to the Droid Turbo with Motorola's light skinning, but If I won't be able to get that update when it becomes available since i'm on Tmobile, then i'll return this phone asap.
bboylito said:
Verizon has confirmed that they will eventually bring Android 5.0 Lollipop to the Droid Turbo. My question is this, as a Tmobile (Att, Cricket, whatever) user, will we also receive the update?
Does anyone else have any experience using Verizon phones on other networks, but stiill receiving the Software update when they become available for the phone? I'm not too concerned about not having root or an unlocked bootloader as long as Lollipop comes to the Droid Turbo with Motorola's light skinning, but If I won't be able to get that update when it becomes available since i'm on Tmobile, then i'll return this phone asap.
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Purely a guess, but the update is done over the internet. So if you have an active internet connection, the code will tell it to check Verizon's servers for the update. I don't know that it would actually download the file over the T-Mo network, but if you put it on WiFi, it would really be no different than using the device on Verizon and WiFi, right?
Sort of like updates for a device that isn't activated anymore. You can still download the OTA over WiFi even if the device has no SIM, etc.
fury683 said:
Sort of like updates for a device that isn't activated anymore. You can still download the OTA over WiFi even if the device has no SIM, etc.
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If it does happen to work like that, then you can just pop out the Sim and mash the Update button. I mean, you could probably leave the Sim in, but without one its effectively a "Verizon phone without a Sim installed".
You both make perfect sense. I just updated two HTC M7's over wifi with ATT's update. There was no sim and no issues. Thanks, I I'll keep my Turbo then. Love this beast.
bboylito said:
You both make perfect sense. I just updated two HTC M7's over wifi with ATT's update. There was no sim and no issues. Thanks, I I'll keep my Turbo then. Love this beast.
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Of course it might not work like that. But I would think you could somehow get the OTA zip and force it to update. I am not sure though.
So I'm not the only person using the Turbo on AT&T. I hope we get lollipop soon tho... But this phone is a beast holy crap. Only getting about a day out of it, but my screen is always on. Waiting for root and bootloader unlock tho.
As long as you can get the signed ota zip, which someone always posts, you can just flash it yourself
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I'm about to buy the G1 and unlock it for AT&T, so my questions are. Is this the right site where I unlock my G1? http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/EN/unlock-code-G1.php?setCurrency=USD. Since AT&T and T-Mo have different bands will Edge and 3G work? And lastly when the new "cupcake" update comes out, since my phone is unlock can i just update and not have to worry?
Thanks
Edge will work but AT&T uses a different 3G frequency than T-Mo so you'll have no 3G. Since updates are pushed out by T-Mo I kinda doubt you'll get them if you're on the AT&T network but I could be wrong. If/when there is a cupcake release I'm sure it'll be made available here at XDA for manual installation. I got my unlock code directly from T-Mo so I can't vouch for any 3rd party sites but I know they're available on eBay for $16.99 and up.
Can anyone else tell me if the OTA updates will go to my phone if on AT&T and if it does will it mess up my unlock?
OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.
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OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.
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Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?
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Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?
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Nope. Anyone can install signed updates from sdcard.
Thanks, so now that i know my unlock won't get messed up and can update whenever, that makes me happy.
To Unlock your phone you can call T-Mobile and have them do it free.
Don't Use Pay Sites, It Is A Ripoff
You have to be a T-Mobile customer for at least a given amount of time, i thought, since if you are not up-to-date with your payments, they wont send you an unlock code.
That is only for those that are on contract. If you are not on contract tell them you bought the phone outright and that you would like the unlock code immediatly.
I've read that since I have an AT&T Note 3, I would receive updates even tho I'm on cricket. This did not happen for me. I ODINd 4.4.2, and tried to get it to update OTA to 4.4.4 by changing the date forward. It wouldn't update. So on cricket, the N900A DOES NOT receive OTAs (neither has ANY AT&T device I have used on cricket or even on prepaid AT&T service on my tablets)). I got to lollipop via @Walter.White method however so that is not a big deal for me. Just letting other users know.
This is also the case for me while i have this unit on Tmobile.
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I've read that since I have an AT&T Note 3, I would receive updates even tho I'm on cricket. This did not happen for me. I ODINd 4.4.2, and tried to get it to update OTA to 4.4.4 by changing the date forward. It wouldn't update. So on cricket, the N900A DOES NOT receive OTAs (neither has ANY AT&T device I have used on cricket or even on prepaid AT&T service on my tablets)). I got to lollipop via @Walter.White method however so that is not a big deal for me. Just letting other users know.
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It Worked
I have been running 5.0 rooted for like a week and a half. I miss xposed. Lollipop battery life is poor when compared to my old 4.4.2 with xposed. The battery stats screen is also crappy, I don't care how much battery is left, I want to know how much has been used for how long. I guess as far as stock rom goes it seemed pretty normal but it is hard to tell as I have a 10,000 Mah zero lemon battery. Lollipop does seem to run nice. I had some issues with google play I think, but they settled after being connected to the internet for awhile. I think there are some things that stuck from xsposed like my network says HOME (I had changed carrier label via Wanam) and also my core cpu min and max frequencies I had set with performance profile?. No frills cpu says that my minimum cpu speed is 1.2 Ghz when I deny root. Anyway I Just decided to downgrade....... 4.4.2 and exposed.
I ran nc2 flasher.
I RESTORED THE BACKUP OF SYSTEM AND DATA THAT I MADE PRIOR TO UPGRADE TO 5.0!
I wiped dalvik and cache? (The two that are least important)
Reboot!
Worked for me
Hoping to try some MOGA......
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Anyway I Just decided to downgrade....... 4.4.2 and exposed.
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Same here. Downgrading from 5.0 as I write this :/
pre4speed said:
I've read that since I have an AT&T Note 3, I would receive updates even tho I'm on cricket. This did not happen for me. I ODINd 4.4.2, and tried to get it to update OTA to 4.4.4 by changing the date forward. It wouldn't update. So on cricket, the N900A DOES NOT receive OTAs (neither has ANY AT&T device I have used on cricket or even on prepaid AT&T service on my tablets)). I got to lollipop via @Walter.White method however so that is not a big deal for me. Just letting other users know.
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I'm pretty sure you have to have an AT&T sim card in the phone for it to actually update via OTA, not just an AT&T variant of the phone.
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I'm pretty sure you have to have an AT&T sim card in the phone for it to actually update via OTA, not just an AT&T variant of the phone.
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I have found this to be partially true. I have an AT&T sim in my tablet, but it's prepaid and it also isn't receiving updates. So basically, not only does it have to be an AT&T sim, it also has to be postpaid service.
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I've read that since I have an AT&T Note 3, I would receive updates even tho I'm on cricket. This did not happen for me. I ODINd 4.4.2, and tried to get it to update OTA to 4.4.4 by changing the date forward. It wouldn't update. So on cricket, the N900A DOES NOT receive OTAs (neither has ANY AT&T device I have used on cricket or even on prepaid AT&T service on my tablets)). I got to lollipop via @Walter.White method however so that is not a big deal for me. Just letting other users know.
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I have found this to be partially true. I have an AT&T sim in my tablet, but it's prepaid and it also isn't receiving updates. So basically, not only does it have to be an AT&T sim, it also has to be postpaid service.
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Thanks for the clarification. When I made the statement, I was referring to post-paid service, but I didn't even think about Pre-paid. It's nice to know since I'm thinking about getting my phone unlocked.
Yes, I think it's bull. It doesn't cost anything to them for a direct link off the web. Cricket customers should be able to get updates online. HTC provides up- date links if you're not OTA able
Kies should upgrade the phone, as should a place like best buy..it really isn't a big deal
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I just got a note 3 4.4.4 given to me... no interest in getting att service and it won't download via WiFi so same issue here. I can't figure out how to root it either..
No biggie. Phones still a beast
...but patiently waiting for root. Lol
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U have a att note 3? Root Ispossible
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Is there really a different marshmallow update for moto pure that's on t mobile ? That's why I bought an unlocked phone to start with. T mobile has always been bad about updates. Need answers please
No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
gamer765 said:
No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
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What's the implication of that for us here..would you install it by removing SIM & download over Wi-Fi or are you waiting for a more official rollout to T-mobile (or not installing it for other reasons people are complaining about like Wi-Fi+browser+call network issues)?
MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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Hmm so you've been running MM for weeks on MXP on T-Mobile with no issues & worst case scenario everyone would get another update later that meets T-Mobile requirements so no reason not to install?
What about the people complaining about slow browser performance-Wi-Fi-call-network issues?
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...prod_answer_detail/a_id/109124/p/30,6720,9541
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/product_page/faqs/p/30,6720,9541/#/how_do_i
-Thnx for your feedback
My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
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My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
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So you have no regrets.. good to read.
I mainly use Boat+floating+Chrome browsers but occasionally use others..any ideas why people are reporting browser issues & you experience a slight lag only on this website?
Why is T-Mobile taking so long to certify the update?
Still no t mobile update. Thinking about pulling sim and doing update. But if and when t mobile certifies it will it update again any thoughts ?
Sad story finding out that the S7 is locked down harder than anything before. I'm still running a Note 3 that I purchased on release day, so needless to say, I've been holding out for the S7 since the S6 series didn't have SD card support.
Having had quite a few Samsung flagships over the years, I've really liked them, their speed and battery life, but having no root is a dealbreaker for me.
Things like TWRP (or MultiSystem), Cerberus, Greenify, TiBu and Xposed are essential to me. Seriously, without the ability to simply back up your current ROM or even just your apps and their data, what does everyone do when they get a new phone or some stupid update ruins what they had??
So that being said, I'm asking here if any of you are waiting it out for root before getting an S7 or if you're considering moving to another phone?
If you are thinking or have already moved to another phone, what's the best rootable phone of 2016 that has an SD card slot that is comparable to the S7?
I'm not hard to please, I just require root and an SD card slot - well, and a community of devs!
I heard there is an unlocked variant with CDMA, if not that then maybe wait it out until a root method is found.
Other options are the 5X, maybe the new G5 or the V10 if you want just root.
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I heard there is an unlocked variant with CDMA, if not that then maybe wait it out until a root method is found.
Other options are the 5X, maybe the new G5 or the V10 if you want just root.
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Unlocked variant with CDMA? Where did you hear this? This also doesn't guarantee Verizon will allow it on their network.
JAYNO20 said:
Unlocked variant with CDMA? Where did you hear this? This also doesn't guarantee Verizon will allow it on their network.
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I read it here
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
cadcamaro said:
I read it here
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
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That link is all about the G5....
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That link is all about the G5....
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Sorry for some reason I thought that was the one you were interested in.
JAYNO20 said:
Unlocked variant with CDMA? Where did you hear this? This also doesn't guarantee Verizon will allow it on their network.
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I'm so tired of people making this comment... The law passed last year clearly stated that no phone can be block from any U.S. Network if it's not stolen, not on an agreement, and has the proper radios to support the network... That's why they can't stop nexus devices, unlocked Motorola etc. Your phone will simply show up on Verizon site as "non Verizon device" and your stupid voicemail won't work. That's what google voice is for. That's why as soon as you pay for your phone, carriers have to unlock it if you request them to do so
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I'm so tired of people making this comment... The law passed last year clearly stated that no phone can be block from any U.S. Network if it's not stolen, not on an agreement, and has the proper radios to support the network... That's why they can't stop nexus devices, unlocked Motorola etc. Your phone will simply show up on Verizon site as "non Verizon device" and your stupid voicemail won't work. That's what google voice is for. That's why as soon as you pay for your phone, carriers have to unlock it if you request them to do so
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So you are saying a Sprint phone will work on Verizon's network then? I think not.
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So you are saying a Sprint phone will work on Verizon's network then? I think not.
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Did you miss the piece where I said the phone has to have the proper radios? Most sprint phones do not have the appropriate radios which support Verizon CDMA channels, therefore the phone wouldn't work. Phones like Nexus, Motorola, and other unlocked phones typically have the hardware to support all U.S carriers.
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Did you miss the piece where I said the phone has to have the proper radios? Most sprint phones do not have the appropriate radios which support Verizon CDMA channels, therefore the phone wouldn't work. Phones like Nexus, Motorola, and other unlocked phones typically have the hardware to support all U.S carriers.
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Ok so this post is completely useless in this section then. There isn't an unlocked variant of the s7 that will work with Verizon nor has there ever been a galaxy phone from another carrier that would work. So stop being a know it all and take you condescending attitude somewhere else. What is your deal?
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Ok so this post is completely useless in this section then. There isn't an unlocked variant of the s7 that will work with Verizon nor has there ever been a galaxy phone from another carrier that would work. So stop being a know it all and take you condescending attitude somewhere else. What is your deal?
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Once again you are diverting from my original comment, which verizon has nothing to do with if a phone can be used on verzion, or "white listed" as you put it. For your information there's been Samsung models that would work on Verizon from Sprint but they wouldn't get the correct lte signals...
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Once again you are diverting from my original comment, which verizon has nothing to do with if a phone can be used on verzion, or "white listed" as you put it. For your information there's been Samsung models that would work on Verizon from Sprint but they wouldn't get the correct lte signals...
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First: I never used the words "white listed" anywhere in my posts.
Second: if they don't get the correct LTE signals then they basically don't work, lets not beat around the bush with here. Ultimately, I get what you are saying but it doesn't really matter. Other than to create an argument where there definitely doesn't need to be one your response really has no meaning in this particular thread. There are NO unlocked CDMA versions of this phone that will work on ANY other carrier and Verizon at the same time. /thread.
Can anyone tell me what an equivalent HTC, Motorola or LG phone would be that is rootable?
*Must be rootable
*Must have an SD card slot
*Hopefully has dev support for custom ROMs but isn't totally necessary since with root I can use Xposed to make it look like I want
I mean seriously, Samsung isn't the only top-tier manufacturer, why are we all addicted to this anyway? It's a great phone, I'm sure - but isn't there ANY good alternative in you guy's opinion?
I might just bite the bullet and get the S7 and hope for root, but the loss of Viper4Android would be a killer.
As a former flashaholic I have decided as long as I am on Verizon I will have to live without root especially when I got my sony z3v. I am glad I did. Flashing and setting everything up took up so much time atleast once a day at most once a week. And heaven forbid there was an issue and I would have to restore or start over. I then got a Verizon z2 tablet again without root on lollipop. This is a great phone and a worthy upgrade from my z3v. I think the line between needing and wanting features or gimmicks is getting blured.
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As a former flashaholic I have decided as long as I am on Verizon I will have to live without root especially when I got my sony z3v. I am glad I did. Flashing and setting everything up took up so much time atleast once a day at most once a week. And heaven forbid there was an issue and I would have to restore or start over. I then got a Verizon z2 tablet again without root on lollipop. This is a great phone and a worthy upgrade from my z3v. I think the line between needing and wanting features or gimmicks is getting blured.
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Damnit, you're right and I know it, I'm just fighting it.
As a complete crackflasher since 2004, I've been around the block a few times - I suppose it's just habit to "require" root.
I think the hardest things about moving to a phone that has no root is no TiBU and no Viper. Seriously, how to people back up their data without TiBU? Of course I could manually back up all my apk's that didn't come from the Google Play Store, and I could manually back up all their \Android\Data folders, but that sucks. How is it in 2016 we have apps that require root and fewer and fewer phones that allow it?
Anyway, thank you for your perspective. I think I'll end up getting an S7 anyway and if it gains root someday it's a bonus!
I am on 930U and trying to use odin flash back to stock 930V. But I got a SW REV check fail. The phone is bricked now. It seems that my current version is higher so cannot use the low version firmware I have now. I am wondering if anyone has the latest 930V or 930U firmware or any solution? Thanks!
http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?q=Sm-g930v&exact=1
Download the most recent from here.
It worked, I have my phone back to stock now, thank you so much!
JediDru said:
http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?q=Sm-g930v&exact=1
Download the most recent from here.
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I realize this post is a number of years old, but is this site still a trusted site to pull down latest versions of stock images? I'm not seeing a whole lot of other advise as to where to get the most recent image for the s7.
Yes I would think that it still is. Just make sure you have all the pieces you need to fill into Odin. Also consider flashing your device to 930U firmware. It's the unbranded one that unlocks all bands for any US based carrier. I turned my 930V into a U at the time to use on an MVNO network that was provisioned for TMobile or att a d it worked perfectly.
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Yes I would think that it still is. Just make sure you have all the pieces you need to fill into Odin. Also consider flashing your device to 930U firmware. It's the unbranded one that unlocks all bands for any US based carrier. I turned my 930V into a U at the time to use on an MVNO network that was provisioned for TMobile or att a d it worked perfectly.
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Thank you so much for your response! Here's my dilemma. When I bought the phone as a referb, it came with 930U. The only thing I really missed at the time was the visual voicemail app, but I found that samsung had a similar in their app store, so no big deal. However, now I'm getting emails from Verizon about them turning off the 3g band at the end of the year. The phones that would be affected are 3g obviously, but also the 4g phones without HD voice capability; the more I dug into it, I found that the 2 things you don't get with U are the vm app and verizon hd calling. I know that the phone is capable of it, as my wife has the same exact model, but with the 930V and the settings are right there.. So I guess this leads me to two more questions:
If I leave it as is, will is still work after they shut down the 3g towers?
The 930V receives OTA updates occasionally. If I keep it at 930U, how do I get the latest security updates?
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Thank you so much for your response! Here's my dilemma. When I bought the phone as a referb, it came with 930U. The only thing I really missed at the time was the visual voicemail app, but I found that samsung had a similar in their app store, so no big deal. However, now I'm getting emails from Verizon about them turning off the 3g band at the end of the year. The phones that would be affected are 3g obviously, but also the 4g phones without HD voice capability; the more I dug into it, I found that the 2 things you don't get with U are the vm app and verizon hd calling. I know that the phone is capable of it, as my wife has the same exact model, but with the 930V and the settings are right there.. So I guess this leads me to two more questions:
If I leave it as is, will is still work after they shut down the 3g towers?
The 930V receives OTA updates occasionally. If I keep it at 930U, how do I get the latest security updates?
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Once you flash the latest firmware
You won't get occasional updates
Samsung has cut support for security updates since 2020
EDIT:at neither of'em
sullyb007 said:
Thank you so much for your response! Here's my dilemma. When I bought the phone as a referb, it came with 930U. The only thing I really missed at the time was the visual voicemail app, but I found that samsung had a similar in their app store, so no big deal. However, now I'm getting emails from Verizon about them turning off the 3g band at the end of the year. The phones that would be affected are 3g obviously, but also the 4g phones without HD voice capability; the more I dug into it, I found that the 2 things you don't get with U are the vm app and verizon hd calling. I know that the phone is capable of it, as my wife has the same exact model, but with the 930V and the settings are right there.. So I guess this leads me to two more questions:
If I leave it as is, will is still work after they shut down the 3g towers?
The 930V receives OTA updates occasionally. If I keep it at 930U, how do I get the latest security updates?
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Gotta flash the Verizon firmware