I'm about to buy the G1 and unlock it for AT&T, so my questions are. Is this the right site where I unlock my G1? http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/EN/unlock-code-G1.php?setCurrency=USD. Since AT&T and T-Mo have different bands will Edge and 3G work? And lastly when the new "cupcake" update comes out, since my phone is unlock can i just update and not have to worry?
Thanks
Edge will work but AT&T uses a different 3G frequency than T-Mo so you'll have no 3G. Since updates are pushed out by T-Mo I kinda doubt you'll get them if you're on the AT&T network but I could be wrong. If/when there is a cupcake release I'm sure it'll be made available here at XDA for manual installation. I got my unlock code directly from T-Mo so I can't vouch for any 3rd party sites but I know they're available on eBay for $16.99 and up.
Can anyone else tell me if the OTA updates will go to my phone if on AT&T and if it does will it mess up my unlock?
OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.
jashsu said:
OTA updates will not affect simlock state. No clue whether G1 users on ATT will get OTA updates, but my guess is yes. You can still manually apply updates from sdcard as well.
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Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?
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Does that mean i have to "Root" my phone?
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Nope. Anyone can install signed updates from sdcard.
Thanks, so now that i know my unlock won't get messed up and can update whenever, that makes me happy.
To Unlock your phone you can call T-Mobile and have them do it free.
Don't Use Pay Sites, It Is A Ripoff
You have to be a T-Mobile customer for at least a given amount of time, i thought, since if you are not up-to-date with your payments, they wont send you an unlock code.
That is only for those that are on contract. If you are not on contract tell them you bought the phone outright and that you would like the unlock code immediatly.
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Any chance the DVP will see an update for those of us with unlocked ones?
Microsoft is starting to push it out to the masses, so just wondering.
I doubt it.
No one knows. Hopefully we'll get the cabs soon so we can manually push it with cabsender.
Did they just say today that all 1st and 1.5 gen phones will get 7.8?? Guess time to update to 8107 to prepare!
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No one knows. Hopefully we'll get the cabs soon so we can manually push it with cabsender.
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Did they just say today that all 1st and 1.5 gen phones will get 7.8?? Guess time to update to 8107 to prepare!
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What I've heard is that once you have the 7.8 OS on there, all future updates will be delivered OTA, bypassing the carrier entirely. (I guess that means you'll have to be connected to wifi.)
Once WP8 is ready, that'll be about the time that they release WP7.8. The carrier will still have to greenlight 7.10.8107, 7.10.8773, and (whatever 7.8 is) before Zune will allow you to update.
So hopefully all the handset makers will care enough about their long-dead product lines to update to 7.8 to take the carriers out of the Windows Phone update equation.
Personally I'm going to wait on the 8107 update for the DVP until T-Mobile greenlights it.
Technosquid said:
What I've heard is that once you have the 7.8 OS on there, all future updates will be delivered OTA, bypassing the carrier entirely. (I guess that means you'll have to be connected to wifi.)
Once WP8 is ready, that'll be about the time that they release WP7.8. The carrier will still have to greenlight 7.10.8107, 7.10.8773, and (whatever 7.8 is) before Zune will allow you to update.
So hopefully all the handset makers will care enough about their long-dead product lines to update to 7.8 to take the carriers out of the Windows Phone update equation.
Personally I'm going to wait on the 8107 update for the DVP until T-Mobile greenlights it.
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its carrier dependent or manufacturer dependent?
my DVP is unlocked and running up here in Canada so whats to say I will receive any of these updates?
fubag said:
its carrier dependent or manufacturer dependent?
my DVP is unlocked and running up here in Canada so whats to say I will receive any of these updates?
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Well if your DVP is factory unlocked, you'll probably get any updates made available. I had a factory unlocked version and no issues upgrading all the way to 8107. Not so fortunate with my TMO unlocked version though. Had to force the update as I don't have much faith in waiting for TMO after phone has reached EOL with them... and Dell too. Anyways, last I read about 7.8 is that it won't go through carriers but who really knows...
Also in Canada BTW :highfive:
I think they're always going to TALK to the carriers about the updates, if for no other reason than to make sure their preloaded apps will run as expected, but I think from 7.8 and on the update schedule will be primarily dictated by when each manufacturer's hardware guys finish testing.
The 7.8 update is going to be delivered in exactly the same way as all previous updates, but after that all future updates will be delivered over wifi, and irrespective which carrier you're on. I kind of feel like 7.8 will be the last update for Windows CE handsets, but at least they're leaving it open
I contacted Dell Care about this, and according to their reply they are unsure whether we will receive any of these updates including Windows Tango Refresh 7.5 or 7.8
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Well if your DVP is factory unlocked, you'll probably get any updates made available. I had a factory unlocked version and no issues upgrading all the way to 8107. Not so fortunate with my TMO unlocked version though. Had to force the update as I don't have much faith in waiting for TMO after phone has reached EOL with them... and Dell too. Anyways, last I read about 7.8 is that it won't go through carriers but who really knows...
Also in Canada BTW :highfive:
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Please can you send me the step by step instructions so I can force the update on my venue pro too!
All the info you need should be in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497142
upgrading to TANGO with Zune...
DVP 16 GB No-Brand Italy
Updated done! no problem...
tethering NOT present, I hoped because with Tango it is introduced in Nokia Lumia 800...
And for peeps like me without a non-branded DVP, here's for sending them cabs to force update to Tango:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736993
No update for me yet and I have an unbranded AT&T compatible version.
OOps my bad. Repeat post. Please delete mods. :silly:
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No update for me yet and I have an unbranded AT&T compatible version.
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To be clear, when we say "unbranded" are we talking about a phone without a logo on it? Or a phone that doesn't come with the AT&T apps that install at the last stage of setup? I don't think any of the DVPs had a logo on them, and to my understanding, if the phone was ever locked to a carrier, you have to abide by that carrier's update schedule (*excluding hacks of course.)
Is that wrong?
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To be clear, when we say "unbranded" are we talking about a phone without a logo on it? Or a phone that doesn't come with the AT&T apps that install at the last stage of setup? I don't think any of the DVPs had a logo on them, and to my understanding, if the phone was ever locked to a carrier, you have to abide by that carrier's update schedule (*excluding hacks of course.)
Is that wrong?
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Yeah no AT&T apps, not sold subsidized, 16GB unlocked version with AT&T compatible bands. I was able to get the Mango update right away by doing the network disconnection trick.
I think I'll just send the cabs over.
The only physically branded devices dell made recently was the Streak7 on tmo, besides that they never had any external markings or even a custom carrier box.
(The S7 had a single tmo label on the back and that was it)
The rest is more or less correct though, carrier branded = carrier apps + carrier schedule.
Tmo initally had a good relationship with dell (launch partners for the S7 and VP) but then it went south and they blocked the HC update for the S7 and 7740+ for the VP.
zorroz said:
upgrading to TANGO with Zune...
DVP 16 GB No-Brand Italy
Updated done! no problem...
tethering NOT present, I hoped because with Tango it is introduced in Nokia Lumia 800...
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no go for me i had an unlocked one from dell direct, no tango =(
I sent the cabs using cabsender. Worked fine.
Hello,
I just moved back home to Guam a few weeks ago from Colorado and I am wondering how I should go about getting service in Guam.
After I pay off my Wife's and I services with Verizon I want to try and connect it with the carriers here. To my understanding, after I pay Verizon the early termination fees etc, the phones should be unlocked*carrier unlocked*?
The phones in question are the HTC 10*mine* and S7 Edge*wife's*, we spoke with Verizon before we left, they told us that the phones are unlocked already and wouldn't have any issues using other carriers.
Should I change the HTC 10 to the Unlocked variant is this even possible? I've read about unlocking it to T-mobile or ATT etc so should I leave it and see what my local carriers can do or should I get it in an unlocked carrier state?
Before we left I used a Sprint variant of the M7, lots have changed since then, I didn't have to do anything to change the MID etc, I was sorta gimped on Data connection, but that was a few years ago, NO 4g LTE, but now the local carriers are on it.
Thanks for your time
If you stay with Verizon, keep the stock software. Also you're already sim-unlocked.
If you change to a GSM carrier, not sure the VZW software will work or not but you can definitely "convert" it to the U.S Unlocked version. That's the easiest/safest way since both phones have the same MID. You'll need S-off ($25).
I am S-off already.
Would being U.S unlocked be a viable option to not have issues trying to connect with local carriers?
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Hello,
I just moved back home to Guam a few weeks ago from Colorado and I am wondering how I should go about getting service in Guam.
After I pay off my Wife's and I services with Verizon I want to try and connect it with the carriers here. To my understanding, after I pay Verizon the early termination fees etc, the phones should be unlocked*carrier unlocked*?
The phones in question are the HTC 10*mine* and S7 Edge*wife's*, we spoke with Verizon before we left, they told us that the phones are unlocked already and wouldn't have any issues using other carriers.
Should I change the HTC 10 to the Unlocked variant is this even possible? I've read about unlocking it to T-mobile or ATT etc so should I leave it and see what my local carriers can do or should I get it in an unlocked carrier state?
Before we left I used a Sprint variant of the M7, lots have changed since then, I didn't have to do anything to change the MID etc, I was sorta gimped on Data connection, but that was a few years ago, NO 4g LTE, but now the local carriers are on it.
Thanks for your time
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First, great info above me. 2nd, you could actually go ahead and superCID and run latest 1.96.617.20 US Unlocked RUU. I'd say the best method is to try them out, RUU or firmware. If on a custom ROM and say chose VZW, you'd have to flash again and chose US unlocked. If you are on stock ROM then I'd try and see if it works as vzw says. If not I'd flash The Us unlocked firmware (modified for vzw you may need the radio.img and cardio.img that is normally removed). Best of luck my friend. I hope all goes well!
Will I have issues flashing viper after SuperCID?
OR should I go down to my carrier and try my luck as the device stands?
Thanks a lot!
v1ral said:
Will I have issues flashing viper after SuperCID?
OR should I go down to my carrier and try my luck as the device stands?
Thanks a lot!
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No issues at all. Supercid, basically makes it so you can flash any firmware and other things like RUU from other carriers like us unlocked -- (so make sure you know what you're flashing!!!) .
I'm not sure of your carrier or what they'd say. I'd honestly play it by ear and see what happens. I have faith that with the 10 you will be able to get everything working; although I can't say for sure.
v1ral said:
I am S-off already.
Would being U.S unlocked be a viable option to not have issues trying to connect with local carriers?
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I'm using a Verizon phone flashed with Unlocked ruu on a GSM network. The conversion improved the phone for me. Better reception in my area, able to connect to more lte bands, txt msgs come/go faster, and the initial connection to the network after boot up or getting outta airplane mode is much faster since I got away from VZW stock software. Also you get OTA updates as they become available, and you don't have to deal with Verizon's worthless software modifications like no battery saver mode, Wi-Fi notifications, etc if you're gonna stay stock.
Flashing the Unlocked firmware is your best bet. The only thing I'll add is that if possible find out what bands are being used by the carriers over there, and see if its compatible.
HTC 10 Unlocked Band Support:
LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29; 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE - 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS - 850/AWS/900/1900/2100; LTE - FDD - B28/B12/B13/B17/B29/B20/B5/B4/B3/B2/B1/B30/B7.
I want to convert my verizon htc 10 to international version
Guys, do you know how can i possibly convert my Verizon HTC 10 to works the same as the global unlocked phone? I'm so sad with the verizon version, I got weak signal in my country and barely reach to 4G LTE network. Most of the time I can only use 3G and some features also not work I'm trying to read lots of forums and watch youtube, but still couldn't get what I want! Plz let me know.
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
cheakimpor said:
Guys, do you know how can i possibly convert my Verizon HTC 10 to works the same as the global unlocked phone? I'm so sad with the verizon version, I got weak signal in my country and barely reach to 4G LTE network. Most of the time I can only use 3G and some features also not work I'm trying to read lots of forums and watch youtube, but still couldn't get what I want! Plz let me know.
Thanks in advance :fingers-crossed:
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Did you even bother to read this entire thread? Did you search on the forum? This question has been answered (and you didn't need to start a new thread).
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Sorry man! I'm new to here!
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Did you even bother to read this entire thread? Did you search on the forum? This question has been answered (and you didn't need to start a new thread).
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Sorry brother, I'm here for helps to switch my Verizon HTC 10 it has weak signal and couldn't share wifi hostpot :\ especially i couldn't do system update unless I use CDMA :\ but in my country didn't support!
I'm trying to run the RUU.exe and it's not doing anything when I open it up...
Any ideas?
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I'm trying to run the RUU.exe and it's not doing anything when I open it up...
Any ideas?
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The installer installs prerequisites first. Then launches the installer. Did you get that far?
Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk
dottat said:
The installer installs prerequisites first. Then launches the installer. Did you get that far?
Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk
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Okay I am trying again now...
It's going further than it did the other time..
It gave me error 155 and 170.. even with a full battery...
So I can just RUU the U.S Unlocked version and and try and use the radios, if not I can just flash back the VZW RUU with no ill effects?
SuperCID to 11111111....
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Okay I am trying again now...
It's going further than it did the other time..
It gave me error 155 and 170.. even with a full battery...
So I can just RUU the U.S Unlocked version and and try and use the radios, if not I can just flash back the VZW RUU with no ill effects?
SuperCID to 11111111....
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If on Verizon you won't get any service on unlocked without Verizon radios. Why not just flash a custom rom?
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dottat said:
If on Verizon you won't get any service on unlocked without Verizon radios. Why not just flash a custom rom?
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I am trying to get my local carrier data and sms to work...
data and sms don't work... system update doesn't work too.. modified system error...
Should I change CID to bs__X ?
Re-opening thread..
Can I convert on Oreo?
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Re-opening thread..
Can I convert on Oreo?
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Nothing preventing you to convert from VZW to U.S Unlocked, as long as you're s-off. I'm running Unlocked Oreo on my VZW variant.
Anyone know why Samsung takes so long to update the unlocked version? Is it due to compatability with all carriers and need to push carrier updates to get approved then they can push update to unlocked?
I'd imagine one reason is that they sell far fewer units for the unlocked versions.
I believe it is for security reasons. Easier to push out updates with errors that you can't exploit because of it being locked. Then having to make sure updates for the unlocked versions are more secure
I doubt it has anything to do with carrier compatibility, because I know that Samsung is not certifying the unlocked S8 for ATT. That is why the unlocked one cannot get VoLTE on ATT. There are very few unlocked devices that ATT certified for their network (HTC A9 comes to mind) and get on VoLTE. Verizon is not too far from this.
So, if we scratch carrier certification (because Samsung is not doing it), who knows what kind of contractual barrier with carriers is preventing them from updating the unlocked S8 and S8+. I guess similar contractual barrier that is preventing Sony selling their unlocked models with enabled fingerprint readers.
Got it. Well it finally received its first update this morning.
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Got it. Well it finally received its first update this morning.
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I updated this couple days ago
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I updated this couple days ago
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Unlocked US S8? Ive been checking and this morning was available for me.
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Unlocked US S8? Ive been checking and this morning was available for me.
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Unlock my s8 is like pine in my ass
Still waiting for T-Mobile to sim unlock.
T-Mobile customer service **** up! From may twenty something I started try call T-Mobile to unlock but still .........
paullu said:
Unlock my s8 is like pine in my ass
Still waiting for T-Mobile to sim unlock.
T-Mobile customer service **** up! From may twenty something I started try call T-Mobile to unlock but still .........
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Ok that's the difference. You have a T-Mobile version that got a similar update except from what I had read it is May security patch. I actually have a factory unlocked S8 that isn't from any carrier. It got the update with June security patch
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/12/unlocked-verizon-galaxy-s8-updates/
I am running stock unlocked H910 on Cricket mobile, every time I try to check for an update it says that the system is up to date, however I am on April 1, 2017 build. I don't want to root or anything this time around, is there anything I can do?
Thank you
The only way you can update without rooting is to either borrow an AT&T SIM from a friend, or buy a prepaid SIM.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
The only way you can update without rooting is to either borrow an AT&T SIM from a friend, or buy a prepaid SIM.
-- Brian
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Thanks! That's BS though...............so does the prepaid need to be activated to update? Also, will it lock the phone back if I do?
Yes it is BS. I filed a complaint with the FTC over this very issue. I was told that when you buy a phone, and don't use it on the carrier it was designed for, then you have no right to updates.
Yes, the SIM needs to be active. This is where I *really* got irritated. If you buy a prepaid SIM and don't use it, you lose it. So, every time you want to check for updates, you have to add credit to the SIM.
Lastly, as far are relocking it -- I don't know -- it shouldn't, but you might want to be prepared if it does. I use my H910 on T-Mobile, but I have the unlock code if I ever needed to unlock it again, but the engineering aboot that is used to root unlocks the phone as well.
-- Brian
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Yes it is BS. I filed a complaint with the FTC over this very issue. I was told that when you buy a phone, and don't use it on the carrier it was designed for, then you have no right to updates.
Yes, the SIM needs to be active. This is where I *really* got irritated. If you buy a prepaid SIM and don't use it, you lose it. So, every time you want to check for updates, you have to add credit to the SIM.
Lastly, as far are relocking it -- I don't know -- it shouldn't, but you might want to be prepared if it does. I use my H910 on T-Mobile, but I have the unlock code if I ever needed to unlock it again, but the engineering aboot that is used to root unlocks the phone as well.
-- Brian
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DANG IT!!! Well I guess I will wait to see if we ever get 8.0 to worry about it.
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The only way you can update without rooting is to either borrow an AT&T SIM from a friend, or buy a prepaid SIM.
-- Brian
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what should i do if i am not in usa?
as phone gifted by my cousin, i am in india.
idbl_fanatic said:
DANG IT!!! Well I guess I will wait to see if we ever get 8.0 to worry about it.
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Just buy a few AT&T (Gophone) prepaid SIMs on ebay... for $2-$5... During activation you will have to choose a plan, but you don't have to pay anything... I chose plan code 03, and got activated with $0.00 balance... After that I had to complete 3 consecutive updates... went from H91010m to H91010r
manoj golaniya said:
what should i do if i am not in usa?
as phone gifted by my cousin, i am in india.
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I am also having similar issue. Bought at&t unlocked v20 from ebay. I live in Nepal. Now there is no way I could get software update. I am on December 2016 security patch. I have no other option than to sell the phone here now. If custom ROMs would be working great then I would never bother about this issue.
adefesio said:
Just buy a few AT&T (Gophone) prepaid SIMs on ebay... for $2-$5... During activation you will have to choose a plan, but you don't have to pay anything... I chose plan code 03, and got activated with $0.00 balance... After that I had to complete 3 consecutive updates... went from H91010m to H91010r
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I have the same problem, an unlocked h910 that needs to be updated.
Just went to AT&T store to get a new prepaid SIM card. Pop it in, but still no luck.
I have tried everything, *#*#checkin#*#* , clear Google Service Framework data.
Still no update... and I lost $25 dollar for nothing....
lu_json said:
I have the same problem, an unlocked h910 that needs to be updated.
Just went to AT&T store to get a new prepaid SIM card. Pop it in, but still no luck.
I have tried everything, *#*#checkin#*#* , clear Google Service Framework data.
Still no update... and I lost $25 dollar for nothing....
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You have to activate the SIM providing both IMEI number and SIM number... follow this link
https://www.att.com/prepaid/activations/#/activate.html
Then go to settings->about phone->software update
adefesio said:
You have to activate the SIM providing both IMEI number and SIM number... follow this link
Then go to settings->about phone->software update
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Thanks for the tip!
I had already activated the SIM & IMEI in AT&T store.
It was still not finding the updates. I guess AT&T system will need several hours to register the IMEI and push the OTA updates.
I tried again today, by setting system clock several days forward, and it found the updates!
Any other way to get OTA?
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Any other way to get OTA?
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That's the only way, if you are not in US, I guess you can try to buy some AT&T prepaid sim cards from ebay and activate on AT&T website.
I am not sure if you need to have AT&T cell reception but it worth a try, unactivated SIM card is quite cheap; about 2 dollars.
lu_json said:
Thanks for the tip!
I had already activated the SIM & IMEI in AT&T store.
It was still not finding the updates. I guess AT&T system will need several hours to register the IMEI and push the OTA updates.
I tried again today, by setting system clock several days forward, and it found the updates!
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What did you get updated to?
I expect a oreo KDZ stuck on april security patch
Hey guys! Can someone tell me if it's okay to update without getting "simlock"
I'm on T-Mobile network with an unlocked Sprint Essential.
The reason why I am asking is because if you take a look into the screenshot you'll see that there has been modem security patches.
yea its ok
FYI, there is no Verizon specific essential phone, only Sprint or unlocked.
mruno said:
yea its ok
FYI, there is no Verizon specific essential phone, only Sprint or unlocked.
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Correct! Thanks for pointing that out...it's a Sprint Variant, but I'm on T-Mobile's network. I'm one of those unlucky customers who purchase their phones from a fraudulent seller and I think they did some hack and then essential patched it and then XDA came out with a way around that but with this new update they have another modem patch. which network are you on and which variant do you have and did you already update?
Thanks!
oh yea, im on an unlocked essential on tmobile. not sure about your phone