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GSM Models of HTC Hero: Which is the correct model I should buy?

HELP WANTED TO IDENTIFY HTC HERO MODEL #s, and what they can tell you re the specific version of the Hero you're getting. ADVICE also wanted to buying online.
I've had two HTC WindowsMobile Phones over past 4 years, all through T-Mobile USA, I've been very active @XDA, and now I'm switching to Android. Took me a while to choose which HTC android phone Model I wanted, since my carrier, T-Mobile USA, decided not to carry the Hero.
Yesterday I spent several hours at my T-Mobile store getting a feel for the first time of several Android devices -- including the G1, the myTouch, and the new Motorola Cliq (which I didn't care for at all). So many reviews on YouTube and various Smartphone news & info sites have convinced me the HTC Hero is what I want. And I am giving up 3G data speeds on T-Mobile's USA Network in order to get this phone.
Which Model Do I want?
The "Device database" site that links at the top of every page here at XDA shows all these following versions of the HTC Hero. I want to figure out specifically if one of the models shown was ever put into production, or whether it was just an early prototype while HTC was shopping it around to carriers:
COMPARISON CHART OF HTC HERO MODEL VERSIONS:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2061&id2=2005&id3=1966&id4=1955&id5=1954
Note Item #1: I have to assume this model was never put into production, and that it was perhaps just a prototype to "sell" to T-Mobile USA to carry this model, and they of course passed.
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But it was also reviewed on YouTube under this specific model name (HTC Hero / T-Mobile G2 Touch)... And so if this model somehow was produced (doubtful), it would be the Hero I'd want to buy, since it would work at 3G speeds on the T-Mobile USA 3G network, which requires bands 1700 and 2100.
Here is the other GSM model listed... I know from researching all of this that T-Mobile UK has the Hero (but only in Black and in White), that Orange UK has it, that Denmark has a version that is gunmetal blue-grey, and that India has a Hero model as well. I don't know which is which in terms of specs.
And then here are the new USA models, for Sprint (released), and Verizon (not yet released):
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Very likely someone will confirm here that the model I buy won't be usable on T-Mobile USA's 3G network.. I've reconciled to that, and STILL want this phone over T-Mo's Android 3G phones: myTouch, Motorola Cliq.
But I want to buy the right model, so is it #2 or #3? At the online stores, mostly all I see is the GSM Hero listed THIS way:
HTC Hero A6262 Quadband 3G HSDPA GPS Unlocked Phone
but I have also seen one listed this way (sold in Singapore):
HTC Hero / HTC A6262 / Google G3
I have spoken to HTC USA -- not a help at all -- I have written to vendors -- they don't know. I have written to PDAdb.net -- no reply So please help me solve this so I can hurry up and order this phone. Thank you!

(1) does not exist, there is no Hero that supports the 1700 band that (only) T-Mobile USA uses. HERO100 is the product number of (2), which is the European/Asian version, and, as I am typing, is currently the only version of Hero with that chin.
(3) is going to be released later this week in Canada with Telus. It should looks exactly the same with HERO100. The only difference is that it supports 850/1900, which Telus and some other carriers in North and South America use for their 3G networks, in particular AT&T in the US. It carries a product number of HERO130. I am not sure if there will be an unlocked version of this phone for retail, but I am sure that people will find a way to unlock the carrier specific version within days.
(5) has released on Sprint, there is not much I can say about it that is not in the pic you posted. It is a CDMA phone, the same goes for (4), which has been renamed to Droid Eris and looks rather different from all its Hero siblings.
If you are sticking with T-Mobile USA, I am sorry but there is no Hero that supports T-Mobile USA 3G network. Don't waste your time looking for one. T-Mobile USA is the only carrier in this world that utilize the 1700 band for its 3G network (no, T-Mobile in the Europe doesn't use 1700). Unless T-Mobile USA was going to carry the Hero on their network, which they had already declined, the chance of having a compatible Hero is very very slim. In this case, HERO100 and HERO130 are the same phone to you. They will run fine on EDGE, but no 3G. If you are gonig to switch to, say, AT&T, then you should go for HERO130 instead of HERO100, since that one is compatible with AT&T's 3G network.

Is the Hero "A6262" the same as the Hero100 ?
Oh, excellent! Leave it to XDA to have clear answers in under 3 hours... vs days of unanswered questions elsewhere. Thank you so much, tsekh501. So, the Hero100 = Europe/Asia model = UMTS 900/2100 = Picture #2. Is this also known as HTC Hero A6262 Quadband 3G HSDPA GPS ? Because the designation "A6262" is the most common way the HTC Hero is denoted at various online vendors' sites.
tsekh501 said:
(3) is going to be released later this week... it supports 850/1900, which (AT&T) use for their 3G networks...in the US. It carries a product number of HERO130. ...I am not sure if there will be an unlocked version of this phone for retail, but I am sure that people will find a way to unlock the carrier specific version within days.
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The likelihood of my ever contracting with AT&T is so slim -- I plan to never forget their lead role in the domestic spying on every single person in the United States for all phone & internet traffic. This is why I never went for the iphone.
If you are sticking with T-Mobile USA...HERO100 and HERO130 are the same phone to you. They will run fine on EDGE, but no 3G. If you are going to switch to, say, AT&T, then you should go for HERO130 instead of HERO100, since that one is compatible with AT&T's 3G network.
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... But in the event I fell and hurt my head and lost all memory of their criminality, it would be best for me to wait a few weeks until the AT&T branded phones hit the secondary marketplace and are made avail online, unlocked ? (Scratch that. (a) I could not stand to look at that logo everytime I used the phone, and (b) their 3G network is so overtaxed and under-resourced, AT&T has actually been thinking of throttling usage of high-data users like iphone subscribers)
(5) has released on Sprint, there is not much I can say about it that is not in the pic you posted. It is a CDMA phone, the same goes for (4), which has been renamed to Droid Eris and looks rather different from all its Hero siblings.
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I see that now:
(This sounds pretty snide... but who knows, maybe given the Hero's older processor, compared to the new Motorola DROID and the HTC Leo, maybe it's true
CNET: "... it should launch November 6, and it will supposedly run $99 after rebate. That's pretty cheap considering it matches the specs of the $180 Hero ... a bundled 8GB MicroSD card. ...Dan and I were talking about how one of Sprint's flagship phones, what was the premiere Android phone before the Droid came along, will be Verizon's el cheapo Android handset come Friday. The Hero more than warrants the $180 Sprint charges, but Verizon sees it as a last-gen device only worthy of last-gen pricing. That, to us, shows the carrier is really planning to push Android hardware to the next level.
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Thanks -- my first thread in the Hero forum and a home-run reply in post#2. Thanks very much!

Item 1, the T-Mobile G2 Touch does exists - it just doesn't support the bands listed under it. It just a "normal" GSM Hero branded by T-Mobile for its european networks. My guess is that whomever put together that table on PDAnet saw it said T-Mobile and just assumed it would be for T-Mobile US. This is further evidenced by the model number, which remains Hero 100.
To be honest, if you want a GSM Hero, they are all basically the same at the moment with the only differences being the colour and the pre-installed apps in the ROM. For example SEE Hero's don't seem to come with the Market. Oh - an the white Hero is teflon coated too! Allegedly a Canadian network (Rogers?) will be launching a GSM Hero which supports AT&T 3G bands (Hero 130), but that doesn't help you much if you are staying with T-Mobile US.
So, my advice is - pick a colour!
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Item 1, the T-Mobile G2 Touch does exists - it just doesn't support the bands listed under it. It just a "normal" GSM Hero branded by T-Mobile for its european networks. My guess is that whomever put together that table on PDAnet saw it said T-Mobile and just assumed it would be for T-Mobile US. This is further evidenced by the model number, which remains Hero 100.
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There exists a Hero with the name of (1) T-Mobile G2 Touch, which is basically (2). But there does NOT exists a Hero with the spec listed for (1) above. T-Mobile G2 Touch is (2) branded for T-Mobile in Europe and is NOT compatible with the 3G network of T-Mobile USA.

quicksite said:
... But in the event I fell and hurt my head and lost all memory of their criminality, it would be best for me to wait a few weeks until the AT&T branded phones hit the secondary marketplace and are made avail online, unlocked ? (Scratch that. (a) I could not stand to look at that logo everytime I used the phone, and (b) their 3G network is so overtaxed and under-resourced, AT&T has actually been thinking of throttling usage of high-data users like iphone subscribers)
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No, what I was saying is that this Canadian carrier, Telus, will be releasing a version of HTC Hero, HERO130, that will be compatible with AT&T US 3G network. It is very unlikely that AT&T themselves will carry the HTC Hero or any Android phones for that matter anytime soon.
(a) It won't be AT&T branded. It may be Telus branded, but it hasn't been released yet, no one knows what Telus will do to it. No one knows at the moment whether there will be a generic unlocked version of the Hero available in the Canada either.
(b) Yes I have read that. But what I've read is that they have this "unlimited" data limit of 5GB per month. Once you reached that they will start throttling your data usage. Seriously, 5GB is A LOT. My normal month data usage does not exist 500MB, and I am using an Android phone. Unlike you enjoy sitting at a no-wifi cafe and stream video all day, or play online games (do they even exist on Android?) it is pretty hard to hit 5GB. And if you are sitting down and want to do this kind of data heavy thing, normally you would much prefer to hook up with a wifi hotspot. Mainly for speed reason.

The Telus version is the A6265. Lets hope these get unlocked soon so I can use it on AT&T

Twenty4 said:
The Telus version is the A6265. Lets hope these get unlocked soon so I can use it on AT&T
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Thanks! ... so let me add the pic here, just to get them all captured and differentiated in one spot:
The Telus version: the A6265
Fishing around, i found this comment, fyi:
the walmart i work at already has the hero in stock here in ontario, we are able to activate them on the 5th of november
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from HTC's website:
and from Telus Mobility:
No Contract price: $499
from Android Central: Telus Hero unboxed "Surprise: Unbranded"
from Howards Forums:
Question for the more knowledgeable of Canadian providers. Is Telus available in the western coast of CA? I live in Seattle and often times find myself in Bellingham, a stone's throw away from BC.
telus is big in B.C, finding a store to buy phones would not be a problem.
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thanks tsekh -- your knowledge is invaluable.
tsekh501 said:
No, what I was saying is that this Canadian carrier, Telus, will be releasing a version of HTC Hero, HERO130, that will be compatible with AT&T US 3G network.... But what I've read is that they have this "unlimited" data limit of 5GB per month. Once you reached that they will start throttling your data usage. Seriously, 5GB is A LOT.
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THIS was the article I was speaking of ... indicating there is further thinking going on, don't you think?
AT&T Wireless CEO Hints at ‘Managing’ iPhone Data Usage Mark Sullivan, PC World, Oct 7, 2009 4:11 pm
...De la Vega ... cited AT&T research showing that just 3 percent of AT&T's smartphone customers [read iPhone users] use 40 percent of all smartphone data, that they consume 13 times the data of "the average smartphone customer," yet represent less than 1 percent of AT&T’s total postpaid customer base. ... So in the absence of new spectrum and new, faster 4G networks, what does AT&T intend to do about the growing demand in the near term?
De la Vega’s comments on this subject really caught my attention.
Without the proper management of these networks, De la Vega said, regular data users will be “crowded out” by the small number of users [read iPhone users] who use massive amounts of data.
“We have to manage the network to make sure that the few cannot crowd out the many,” De la Vega continued.
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He said the words “crowded out” at least five times in that part of his keynote address.... Of course nobody outside AT&T knows exactly what the company has in mind. But if De la Vega's numbers are correct, AT&T will be forced to do something, and I got the impression that De la Vega was casually introducing the "rationing" concept to the wireless community today.
AT&T's exclusive deal with Apple to sell the iPhone has made it a top-shelf wireless provider, but that blessing could become a curse if the AT&T 3G network can't keep up with the large bandwidth appetite of the popular device.
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The reason for my followup here is to say I've now thought it through, and (a) I want the brown handset -- so that's GSM Europe/Asia, since Telus is only offering the handset in black or white, and (b) I'll be satisfied with 2G and wi-fi. Thanks again.

quicksite said:
Thanks! ... so let me add the pic here, just to get them all captured and differentiated in one spot:
The Telus version: the A6265
Fishing around, i found this comment, fyi:
from HTC's website:
and from Telus Mobility:
No Contract price: $499
from Android Central: Telus Hero unboxed "Surprise: Unbranded"
from Howards Forums:
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Nice. But unbranded does not mean that the phone is unlocked (although there is a chance that it is), there is still "Telus" written on the box. I won't be too worry about the possibility of unlocking it though, given we have seen what the people here can do.
I am using the European version on AT&T and am thinking about selling mine and importing the Telus version.

Can't find the Telus version anywhere on the web other than ordering from the telus website which does NOT ship outside of Canada.

I guess they will start popping up on eBay very soon.
I am asking a friend of mine who lives in Canada to get one from Telus directly.

quicksite said:
Oh, excellent! Leave it to XDA to have clear answers in under 3 hours... vs days of unanswered questions elsewhere. Thank you so much, tsekh501. So, the Hero100 = Europe/Asia model = UMTS 900/2100 = Picture #2. Is this also known as HTC Hero A6262 Quadband 3G HSDPA GPS ? Because the designation "A6262" is the most common way the HTC Hero is denoted at various online vendors' sites.
The likelihood of my ever contracting with AT&T is so slim -- I plan to never forget their lead role in the domestic spying on every single person in the United States for all phone & internet traffic. This is why I never went for the iphone.
... But in the event I fell and hurt my head and lost all memory of their criminality, it would be best for me to wait a few weeks until the AT&T branded phones hit the secondary marketplace and are made avail online, unlocked ? (Scratch that. (a) I could not stand to look at that logo everytime I used the phone, and (b) their 3G network is so overtaxed and under-resourced, AT&T has actually been thinking of throttling usage of high-data users like iphone subscribers)
I see that now:
(This sounds pretty snide... but who knows, maybe given the Hero's older processor, compared to the new Motorola DROID and the HTC Leo, maybe it's true
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Thanks -- my first thread in the Hero forum and a home-run reply in post#2. Thanks very much!
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The 'older' processor of the Hero? How new is the DROID's processor going to be? Read this review and see for yourself:
http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/2009/11/05/motorola-droid-review-verizon-wireless/

tsekh501 said:
There exists a Hero with the name of (1) T-Mobile G2 Touch, which is basically (2). But there does NOT exists a Hero with the spec listed for (1) above. T-Mobile G2 Touch is (2) branded for T-Mobile in Europe and is NOT compatible with the 3G network of T-Mobile USA.
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Errhhh - that is what I said!
Item 1, the T-Mobile G2 Touch does exists - it just doesn't support the bands listed under it
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Regards,
Dave

blackvyper said:
The 'older' processor of the Hero? How new is the DROID's processor going to be? Read this review and see for yourself:
http://nerdworld.blogs.time.com/2009/11/05/motorola-droid-review-verizon-wireless/
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Well I didn't author the snide comment... CNET did. But here are the specs compared in PDAdb.net:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2011&id2=2061

Best Buy Canada -- now has the Telus Heros for sale (stores only)
It says they are only for sale IN STORES ...
(that last $999.99 is probably meant to be $99.99 -- same as the white phone for 3 year contract; same as on Telus website)
Home > Best Buy Mobile > Cell Phones > Smartphones > Telus > Product Information

The Arm Cortex-A8 core at the heart of the Droid is a much more modern design than the Arm-11 core in the Hero's Qualcomm processor. Clock for clock, you can expect it to be significantly faster.
See this article comparing the two cores in the iPhone. Whilst they don't use the same SoC as the Hero and Droid, they are based on the same Arm cores (iPhone 3G - ARM11, iPhone 3GS - Arm Cortex-A8) so the comparisons are likely to be apposite.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
The Arm Cortex-A8 core at the heart of the Droid is a much more modern design than the Arm-11 core in the Hero's Qualcomm processor. Clock for clock, you can expect it to be significantly faster.
See this article comparing the two cores in the iPhone. Whilst they don't use the same SoC as the Hero and Droid, they are based on the same Arm cores (iPhone 3G - ARM11, iPhone 3GS - Arm Cortex-A8) so the comparisons are likely to be apposite.
Regards,
Dave
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Dave, you are a master of info. I'm only 2 days into this Hero forum (after 3 years on the windows mobile forums here), and you really deliver the goods. I look forward to getting my phone. I'm sure this Hero forum will be great for development.
This was very cool to read in that article, so thx for the reference.
A Call to Action
This leads me to a further point: we need more transparency in specs from smartphone manufacturers. The mobile phone market is all too shielded from the performance metrics and accountability that we’ve had in the PC space. When Intel was shipping Pentium 4s that performed slower than the Pentium IIIs they were replacing, we called them out on it. To this day, Apple refuses to talk about the processor in the iPhone 3GS. We get to hear all about what’s in the Nehalem Mac Pro, but the hardware behind the 3GS is off limits - despite the fact that it’s very good. This policy of not delivering specifics and a general unwillingness to talk about specs is absurd at best. It doesn’t take much more than a teardown and some homebrew code to figure out what CPU at what frequency is in any modern day smartphone; manufacturers should show pride in their hardware, or refrain from putting something inside a phone that’s they can’t be proud of.
What we need are cache sizes, clock speeds, full architecture disclosures. They don’t have to be on the phone’s marketing materials but make them accessible and at least some of the focus. These SoCs are so incredibly cool, they pack more power than the desktops of 10 years ago into a single chip smaller than my thumbnail - boast about them! Palm had a tremendous leg up on the competition with its OMAP 3430 processor, yet there was hardly any attention paid to it by Palm. I get that the vast majority of consumers don’t get, but those who do, would help tremendously if given access to this information. It’s something to get excited about.
And if the manufacturers won’t devote time and energy to this stuff, then I will.
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I really don't have any plans of getting the verizon version (Eris) as I feel it was built on the same set as the sprint version and will most likly suck in the battery department as the GSM version does not. Ohwell, hope we see theses soon. I can't find a single shop in canada that will ship to the USA...

Well the contract from when I bought my Tilt two years ago just ended. I will be buying the Telus Hero as soon as I can find one. Then I will research which non-smartphone I can get from AT&T with the biggest turn around on Ebay.
That way I can get keep the cheap data plan I have now and re-coupe some of the cash from paying full price for the Hero.

More evidence of US Variants getting a S4 Krait.

http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_snapdragon_s4_confirmed_for_verizon_galaxy_s_iii-news-4244.php

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http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_snapdragon_s4_confirmed_for_verizon_galaxy_s_iii-news-4244.php
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Att is getting the exynos quad-core version like Rogers.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.

This isn't a bad thing, but it is also underwhelming. Every high end phone released in the US markets has the same SoC. Software battles are not very interesting, at least to me. On ATT both of the high end Android phones are very similar in terms of hardware with the HTC One X arguably being better since it is already out and has a better screen. Not sure what samsung was thinking with putting out a phone with the same internals as a rival a couple months later.

ceo.mtcl said:
Att is getting the exynos quad-core version like Rogers.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.
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And who said that Rogers is getting an Exynoes version... the only evidence was a ad generated by google... unless you have another source.

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And who said that Rogers is getting an Exynoes version... the only evidence was a ad generated by google... unless you have another source.
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This ad banner...
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Until something more concrete appears, I'm going with this from the article...
"Of course an ad banner is hardly conclusive"
http://www.androidcentral.com/ad-ba...y-s-iii-could-feature-new-exynos-chip-and-lte
From the New Orleans event. Note the use of the word "optimized."
“Samsung Mobile is planning a U.S. version of Galaxy S III, optimized for the fastest LTE and HSPA+ networks in the U.S., which will be available in the summer of 2012. Exact timing and retail channel availability is not being announced at this time. We believe the Galaxy S III is the most anticipated product in the 20-year history of Samsung Mobile; therefore, we will continue to share information as it becomes available.” – Samsung
This could play out two ways...
1) Samsung's developed a GSM LTE-capable version of the Exynos chip and it will be used everywhere it can be. In North America that would mean Rogers, AT&T, and Sprint. Since CDMA's so limited, the VZW SGS3 would likely use the S4 chip. T-Mobile would likely get S4 also because S4 supports AWS and when faced with the same choice in the SGS2 they went Qualcomm vs. developing their own AWS radio. If Samsung was going this route, there's no reason they wouldn't have said so at the UnBoxed event.
2) LTE and AWS SGS3's will all be S4. Either because Samsung didn't have time to integrate LTE, couldn't match the S4's fantastic battery life, or that it might actually be cheaper. Samsung builds great SoC's but they have no track record (yet) in radios. There were no repercussions (other than some customer disappointment) when Samsung went this route last time. Also, when they did, they waited until right up to launch to disclose that the U.S. market wasn't getting Exynos (except the non-LTE AT&T version).
I have no idea which way it'll go (and neither do any of you). I wouldn't bet odds in Vegas based on a misplaced banner ad.

If you think AT&T is going to fragment the sales/updates as far as one that is quad-core/hspa/3G and one that is Dual-Core/HSPA/LTE, you are mistaken. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be one model, one that is usable on the LTE network.

bbeelzebub said:
If you think AT&T is going to fragment the sales/updates as far as one that is quad-core/hspa/3G and one that is Dual-Core/HSPA/LTE, you are mistaken. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be one model, one that is usable on the LTE network.
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Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....

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Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....
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That was last year. We're into the LTE (True 4G) era.
Regardless. I'll have fun watching some of you waiting on that Quad Core.

bbeelzebub said:
That was last year. We're into the LTE (True 4G) era.
Regardless. I'll have fun watching some of you waiting on that Quad Core.
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Again, no evidence whatsoever that you will be getting a Exynos + 4G LTE radio with Verizon.

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Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....
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That U.S. introduction of the SGS2 was one of the strangest launches ever. First, it took Samsung and the U.S. carriers six months after the UK launch to bring it to the U.S. Then all but the AT&T version were totally different phones based on the Asian Celox and SGS2's in name only. If you remember the launch event, the T-Mobile version was locked in a Plexiglas box and not allowed to be touched. VZW skipped the SGS2 entirely. On top of that, two weeks after it launched, AT&T announced the SkyRocket which was a Celox variant and closer to the other U.S. carrier versions. Samsung’s in a much more powerful position than they were last go round so hopefully the phones will be less molested and the introduction better synchronized.
When the OG SGS2 launched on AT&T they hadn't even lit up their first LTE city. It would be strange for them to launch another high-end HSPA+ phone with as fast as they are growing (and pushing) their LTE network. But, based on the SGS2 launch, anything's possible.

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That U.S. introduction of the SGS2 was one of the strangest launches ever. First, it took Samsung and the U.S. carriers six months after the UK launch to bring it to the U.S. Then all but the AT&T version were totally different phones based on the Asian Celox and SGS2's in name only. If you remember the launch event, the T-Mobile version was locked in a Plexiglas box and not allowed to be touched. VZW skipped the SGS2 entirely. On top of that, two weeks after it launched, AT&T announced the SkyRocket which was a Celox variant and closer to the other U.S. carrier versions. Samsung’s in a much more powerful position than they were last go round so hopefully the phones will be less molested and the introduction better synchronized.
When the OG SGS2 launched on AT&T they hadn't even lit up their first LTE city. It would be strange for them to launch another high-end HSPA+ phone with as fast as they are growing (and pushing) their LTE network. But, based on the SGS2 launch, anything's possible.
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I think the transition to LTE was difficult for Samsung and satisfying their customers. Then having to design multiple variants on top of that some with the S3 and LTE radio and some without it.
It takes hours and hours of meetings, designing, quality control, etc. I could already predict all the trouble that all parties had to go through, Samsung, Sprint, T-Mobile etc. If it wasn't for our wide population, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung said "the hell with the US" and just stuck with releasing one type, the international version for everyone else.

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Again, no evidence whatsoever that you will be getting a Exynos + 4G LTE radio with Verizon.
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I never claimed otherwise.
I think there is sufficient proof out that Verizon will be getting a Qualcomm S4, just like Sprint... just like AT&T..... just like T-Mobile.

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I think there is sufficient proof out that Verizon will be getting a Qualcomm S4
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Almost certain.
just like Sprint...
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Likely as their CDMA/LTE like VZW.
just like AT&T.....
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Competely unknown.
just like T-Mobile.
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Completely unknown but AWS is easier on S4.

I am starting to doubt "carrier availability" will work the way we think of it.

I am starting to doubt "carrier availability" will work the way we think of it.
We know that the Nexus 6 is able to work with all US bands and LTE bands for US Carriers, however I am starting to believe that the device availability might not strictly be sold through said carriers.
We know for sure that T-Mobile US is getting the Nexus, and has been the only one to (Proudly, might I add) announce it and prepare to sell it. While all other US carriers are still up in the air at the moment.
I believe either:
1.) The Nexus 6 will be sold by Google Play and T-Mobile US as the first retailer, later on in 2014/2015 other US carriers will be able to carry it and sell it through them but T-Mobile has the first dibs on selling the device via carrier.
-OR-
2.) The Nexus 6 will only be sold through Google Play and exclusively through T-Mobile US, with no other US carriers being able to sell the device, but will be able to be brought to said carrier to use after purchasing through Google Play, Best Buy, Amazon or T-Mobile directly.
Evidence suggesting this goes with Verizon's entire focus on releasing the Droid Turbo, the supposed Global version being released on AT&T (rumored) and no other indication that these carriers aside from T-Mobile US confirmed to actually carry and sell the device directly.
What does this mean? It means that while T-Mobile might be the only US carrier to sell the device, it still does not mean that it will be the only carrier to use the device. Other Carriers will be able to take advantage of the N6 with all the radio bands it can use, but they might not be selling it due to them not being able to comply with Google's contract upon selling the devices. (This supposed contract being that if they pass compliance with Google they can sell the Nexus 6 direct).
Whatever the case will be, if the other carriers refuse to sell it then the worry about carrier bloat becomes less of a worry. That said the availability of obtaining one becomes by far, more difficult for those outside of T-Mobile US.
What's the genuine thought about this to everyone? Would this be a horrible thing or would it be an alright thing?

Dr Faustus said:
We know that the Nexus 6 is able to work with all US bands and LTE bands for US Carriers, however I am starting to believe that the device availability might not strictly be sold through said carriers.
We know for sure that T-Mobile US is getting the Nexus, and has been the only one to (Proudly, might I add) announce it and prepare to sell it. While all other US carriers are still up in the air at the moment.
I believe either:
1.) The Nexus 6 will be sold by Google Play and T-Mobile US as the first retailer, later on in 2014/2015 other US carriers will be able to carry it and sell it through them but T-Mobile has the first dibs on selling the device via carrier.
-OR-
2.) The Nexus 6 will only be sold through Google Play and exclusively through T-Mobile US, with no other US carriers being able to sell the device, but will be able to be brought to said carrier to use after purchasing through Google Play, Best Buy, Amazon or T-Mobile directly.
Evidence suggesting this goes with Verizon's entire focus on releasing the Droid Turbo, the supposed Global version being released on AT&T (rumored) and no other indication that these carriers aside from T-Mobile US confirmed to actually carry and sell the device directly.
What does this mean? It means that while T-Mobile might be the only US carrier to sell the device, it still does not mean that it will be the only carrier to use the device. Other Carriers will be able to take advantage of the N6 with all the radio bands it can use, but they might not be selling it due to them not being able to comply with Google's contract upon selling the devices. (This supposed contract being that if they pass compliance with Google they can sell the Nexus 6 direct).
Whatever the case will be, if the other carriers refuse to sell it then the worry about carrier bloat becomes less of a worry. That said the availability of obtaining one becomes by far, more difficult for those outside of T-Mobile US.
What's the genuine thought about this to everyone? Would this be a horrible thing or would it be an alright thing?
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Did you not see the carriers listed on the Pre-Order page? That would lead most people to believe that those carriers will INDEED be offering the Nexus 6.
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Except that you're 100% wrong - you know, since carriers announced it.

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Except that you're 100% wrong - you know, since carriers announced it.
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Where have carriers themselves announced that they would be selling it aside from T-Mobile US in the states?

Baldilocks said:
Did you not see the carriers listed on the Pre-Order page? That would lead most people to believe that those carriers will INDEED be offering the Nexus 6.
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In one of the press releases it was stated that the device would be sold through any of those carriers barring that they are compliant with Google on selling the device. Just because it shows the carriers it can be used from does not mean they will all be available to sell it if they are not compliant to Google's contract over selling the device through Carriers.
T-Mobile US is the only US Carrier that has complied and has announced to officially be selling it. Where as Verizon, has been doing nothing but talking up about the Droid Turbo. Please find a better means of evidence to support against me.

Well there is this for AT&T....
http://www.att.com/cellphones/motorola/nexus-6.html#fbid=ff17190cQrP
And this....
http://about.att.com/story/att_to_welcome_first_nexus_device_confirms_nexus_6_will_join_the_nations_most_reliable_4g_lte_network.html

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Where have carriers themselves announced that they would be selling it aside from T-Mobile US in the states?
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Lol
AT&T
Sprint

Dr Faustus said:
In one of the press releases it was stated that the device would be sold through any of those carriers barring that they are compliant with Google on selling the device. Just because it shows the carriers it can be used from does not mean they will all be available to sell it if they are not compliant to Google's contract over selling the device through Carriers.
T-Mobile US is the only US Carrier that has complied and has announced to officially be selling it. Where as Verizon, has been doing nothing but talking up about the Droid Turbo. Please find a better means of evidence to support against me.
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AT&T has an official Nexus 6 page. You can find it by googling "at&t nexus 6". (I can't link outside sites yet)
I very much doubt that at&t would have built this page if they weren't planning on selling the device.

Dr Faustus said:
We know that the Nexus 6 is able to work with all US bands and LTE bands for US Carriers, however I am starting to believe that the device availability might not strictly be sold through said carriers.
We know for sure that T-Mobile US is getting the Nexus, and has been the only one to (Proudly, might I add) announce it and prepare to sell it. While all other US carriers are still up in the air at the moment.
I believe either:
1.) The Nexus 6 will be sold by Google Play and T-Mobile US as the first retailer, later on in 2014/2015 other US carriers will be able to carry it and sell it through them but T-Mobile has the first dibs on selling the device via carrier.
-OR-
2.) The Nexus 6 will only be sold through Google Play and exclusively through T-Mobile US, with no other US carriers being able to sell the device, but will be able to be brought to said carrier to use after purchasing through Google Play, Best Buy, Amazon or T-Mobile directly.
Evidence suggesting this goes with Verizon's entire focus on releasing the Droid Turbo, the supposed Global version being released on AT&T (rumored) and no other indication that these carriers aside from T-Mobile US confirmed to actually carry and sell the device directly.
What does this mean? It means that while T-Mobile might be the only US carrier to sell the device, it still does not mean that it will be the only carrier to use the device. Other Carriers will be able to take advantage of the N6 with all the radio bands it can use, but they might not be selling it due to them not being able to comply with Google's contract upon selling the devices. (This supposed contract being that if they pass compliance with Google they can sell the Nexus 6 direct).
Whatever the case will be, if the other carriers refuse to sell it then the worry about carrier bloat becomes less of a worry. That said the availability of obtaining one becomes by far, more difficult for those outside of T-Mobile US.
What's the genuine thought about this to everyone? Would this be a horrible thing or would it be an alright thing?
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Google reps confirm carrier devices. However if you want the pure Android experience you'll order from the Play Store.

move along op is a troll

Someone didnt do their homework before posting....

How do people not do homework?

The reason why Verizon talks so much about & has hyped the new Turbo is because it's a beast spec wise, a flagship type device under the Droid name that is "exclusive" & synonymous with Verizon. I get normal people all the time asking about the Droid phones, & don't really think of Samsung, HTC, LG as Android, but they just say "What do you have for Droid phones. There is a lot at stake with reviving the Droid name, just look at Motos website about the Turbo. There will be a lot of Turbos sold, it's a moneymaker for both companies.
I completely disagree with all of your points, & Verizon is slow to announce every device.

kyan~ said:
move along op is a troll
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Just because I did not see the other press releases of the other US carriers does not automatically make me a "Troll" good sir. I am not like that "oneplus" user.
Consider this thread marked for deletion.

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Please do not jump on someone, a pointer to the correct information would suffice.

Moto Maxx spotted in the wild. (Droid Turbo Variant)

I hope this sparks development and an unlocked bootloader.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/03/moto-maxx-possibly-a-droid-turbo-variant-for-non-us-markets-spotted-on-google/
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The form factor and all the internals look identical to our variant. This is good news.

its beautiful and in spanish! its coming to me.

man can't wait. I really hope this one will support Tmo band, love the specs and the battery life.
Funny thing is, 3 hour SOT in my nexus 5 considered good battery life, while in this beast 6 hours SOT is some kind of "weak"? Wth? This is QHD. I absolutely love this phone despite a lot of hater out there are screaming everyday

I don't see this released to a few countries alone, I'm thinking more likely it will international with broad release but excluding the US. In other words Clove and the rest are going to have it for sale and getting it will be strictly a matter of dropping the plastic. But then again maybe that's just wishful thinking.

The US Droid Turbo works on International networks via GSM, right? So if this one has identical hardware, less branding, it could potentially work on VZW, right?

fury683 said:
The US Droid Turbo works on International networks via GSM, right? So if this one has identical hardware, less branding, it could potentially work on VZW, right?
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Not exactly. It would need a CDMA radio. Then it would need to support Verizon LTE bands. And then even if they pulled a Nexus 6, because of the CDMA radio, Verizon would have to allow it on the network, which is doubtful because they want to sell you a Droid Turbo.

Character Zero said:
Not exactly. It would need a CDMA radio. Then it would need to support Verizon LTE bands. And then even if they pulled a Nexus 6, because of the CDMA radio, Verizon would have to allow it on the network, which is doubtful because they want to sell you a Droid Turbo.
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I was thinking of how the Nexus 6 worked out of the box, even though it didn't really come from Verizon. Not sure how relevant that is in this case, though. It makes sense, but I don't want it to :/

I think this is great news! Even better that it's still on 4.4.4. Hopefully it gets announced and released ASAP.

fury683 said:
I was thinking of how the Nexus 6 worked out of the box, even though it didn't really come from Verizon. Not sure how relevant that is in this case, though. It makes sense, but I don't want it to :/
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No one really knows how Verizon is handling the activation of the Nexus 6. Droid-Life was able to pop a Verizon sim in their review unit and it worked. Maybe Google is giving them all the Id numbers and they are just allowing any Nexus 6 to activate in their network? I guess we will see when someone buys one directly from T-Mobile and see if it makes calls.

Character Zero said:
No one really knows how Verizon is handling the activation of the Nexus 6. Droid-Life was able to pop a Verizon sim in their review unit and it worked. Maybe Google is giving them all the Id numbers and they are just allowing any Nexus 6 to activate in their network? I guess we will see when someone buys one directly from T-Mobile and see if it makes calls.
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I'm guessing something similar happened with the Moto X 2013. I bought it from Moto, and it was branded as Verizon. I'd assume Moto told VZW here are all the serials for the VZW XT1060 models. With the Nexus, they may have just given them all of the numbers for all the devices, because I'm guessing you don't specify which carrier you have when you purchase, unless you're doing an upgrade.

Jaocagomez said:
its beautiful and in spanish! its coming to me.
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is portuguese language

Moto Maxx is the global variant of Droid Turbo, if I'm right.

Is it under Lenovo?

Character Zero said:
Not exactly. It would need a CDMA radio. Then it would need to support Verizon LTE bands. And then even if they pulled a Nexus 6, because of the CDMA radio, Verizon would have to allow it on the network, which is doubtful because they want to sell you a Droid Turbo.
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My guess is they just have the full list of IMEIs.

Something tells me the United States is going to be excluded from this. Im sure it can be imported, but thats just going to jack the price up beyond being worth it.

Am hopeful that we get some positive news for us in the UK tomorrow. What time UK is it, about 2pm?
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qwerty12601 said:
Something tells me the United States is going to be excluded from this. Im sure it can be imported, but thats just going to jack the price up beyond being worth it.
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Since the device HAS passed through FCC as IHDT56PK2 (the droid turbo is IHDT56PK1... the PK2 adds in UMTS/AWS = tmobile 3G), one can assume that they do intend to sell it within the US.
The FCC is a US regulatory body, and is only required for importing into the US.

doitright said:
Since the device HAS passed through FCC as IHDT56PK2 (the droid turbo is IHDT56PK1... the PK2 adds in UMTS/AWS = tmobile 3G), one can assume that they do intend to sell it within the US.
The FCC is a US regulatory body, and is only required for importing into the US.
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Many devices pass through the FCC and don't ever appear from US consumption. While somewhat promising, its not nearly a sure thing.
Verizon may have an exclusivity right on the model preventing it from being sold on other carriers. At least for the time being. But there's been no press about it being released in the united states, so one can on speculate at this point.

Keep in mind that only means it can be legally imported, it does not show intent to sell. Similar processes are followed throughout much of the world and two variants of a GSM phone can cover most of them. There is little reason not to get FCC certification since it is not an expensive or difficult process within the confines of the larger effort involved in global release and one of the handsets will be suitable for use in the states anyway. I'm not saying its not going to happen, I'm saying the filing does not make it a certainty and more than one phone has seen certification without being sold in the US.
Also to the thread in general the spread of possible IMEIs are public record, Verizon need only block out the range specified for a device in order to block it, they do not need specific numbers off individual devices which are not public record.

Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon?

According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A, 3G UMTS, 850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz, 4G LTE (up to 450Mbps), FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30, Support Cat 9 LTE, download up to 450 Mbps, upload up to 50 Mbps
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I'm wondering the same thing.
adam3914 said:
According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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I suspect it will indeed work on VZW, all 3 models have the same modelid (ATT, TMO, VZW)...
Jeff Gordon pretty much confirmed it...https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/719949958166786048?s=15

I see it as the same situation as the 6P. Verizon didnt "officially certify" it for their network, but since it had the correct bands it worked with an already activated sim card.
I preordered an unlocked HTC 10 and plan on popping in my 6p VZW sim card.
Now does it matter that HTC site lists the 850 frequency (which verizon uses for their 3g) under 2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE?

I am wondering the same my friend..it will be a must buy it so and I can use it on any carrier at anytime! It's probably too good to be true though all of ever heard is how Verizon is very strict on what phones they will let on their network ? If I have to get the Verizon version, then I will have to wait on bootloader unlock before purchase Crossing fingers
MoNsTeReNeRgY22, Post back once you get the phone and pop in your sim.... The sim from my iPhone 6Plus should work to I would guess?

Verizon is less strict than you think. They're picky about the phones they certify and sell, but if a phone has the right radios, you can usually get it to work on V by just inserting a pre-activated SIM.
I've heard a rumor that Verizon will be getting an exclusive launch ahead of the US competition with this phone. It'd be nice if the unlocked model is the same. Perhaps they'll put some software locking that we can easily circumnavigate? Being able to travel with my M8 and pop in a local GSM SIM has been a huge benefit.

So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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Not good.

Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed

awareunlikeu said:
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Verizon did just implement that new upgrade fee if you buy from them. Sneaky, sneaky.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.

awareunlikeu said:
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
jchq said:
I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?
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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.

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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.
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Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?

awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?
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Yeah thats the way it certainly seems. Someone pointed out though that it could be showing the bands for both models as a whole.... It does not sound convincing, but something to think about.

awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...

OMJ said:
2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...
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TASTY!

Read the whole thread and it looks like the unlocked HTC 10 might work on Verizon. Great news. I DON'T WANT VERIZON BRANDED DEVICE EVER AGAIN. I looked at the specs on the website and saw LTE bands 3,4,13 which is what Verizon uses AFAIK. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Whoever ordered the device please update us as soon as you get your device.
Thank you
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