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Quick shootout between the Moto G, Moto X and Samsung Galaxy S4 for anyone who's interested.
Order of images: Moto G, Moto X, S4.
All settings on auto.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hO6kOANqNIQnR4SjYwalNpZ28/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hO6kOANqNISXA4dnlMUXNnb0U/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hO6kOANqNIZHhkZWdtcXZscms/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hO6kOANqNIa0piOUtjZm0wNXM/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hO6kOANqNIcGQwQ2hvcGdzSUU/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3hO6kOANqNIck1VTDEyQVRXWmM/edit?usp=sharing
Really?
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I should add that all images were downsized to 5 MP to match the Moto G.
This is all old technology by now, and your milage will vary, but my general observations are as follows:
The Moto G has a pretty decent imaging processor. It's lens is rubbish, with lots of purple fringing and chromatic aberration, but it seemed to be consistently mediocre. Motorola seemed to attempt to make up for a lot of it's shortcomings by pumping up the saturation.
The Moto X has much better glass, but it's white balance shifted quite a bit, and seemed to favor the cooler spectrum of colors. It also seemed to underexpose images slightly, and was a bit on the low side when it came to saturation. At least for my taste. I couldn't help but feel that the hardware had much more potential than what the software offered.
The Galaxy S4 has excellent glass (lens), but it's camera software seemed to be very inconsistent - At least the T-Mobile variant. It handled white balancing the best, but seemed to overexpose images slightly, with an inconsistent saturation level.
All three phones seemed to have sloppy camera software, with hardware ranging from decent to excellent.
Great sharing photo's .. just happens how it's possible ?
DANIEL AMBRUSO said:
Great sharing photo's .. just happens how it's possible ?
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How's what possible?
no purpose for this post other than promoting samsung in a motorola forum
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no purpose for this post other than promoting samsung in a motorola forum
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Sounds a little defensive there. Take another look and you'll see that the Moto X did best in low lighting, and retained more dynamic latitude detail than the S4. Aside from that, it's always interesting to compare devices and their abilities.
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How's what possible?
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I am just talking about your moto x photo's capability..
I have pretty much at least one of every phone ever made in the last 3 years, and I love the Moto X camera. my wife has an S4, I have an S5. While both have higher resolution the Moto X seems to be a much more stable sensor. Specifically, its much more forgiving of motion, low light, etc. The Galaxy phones seem to work best when its posed like a portrait.
Direct quote from Google:
An f2.0 lens and 13 megapixel camera with optical image stabilization capture great photos in daylight and low light. Using advanced computational photography technology and HDR+, the pre-installed Google Camera does the heavy lifting so you can effortlessly take great photos.
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Luckily it doesn't seem to be the same camera found on the Moto X (2014). Different sensor perhaps?
Moto X 2nd gen has the Sony IMX135
Nexus 6 has the Sony IMX214 (same as oneplus)
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Moto X 2nd gen has the Sony IMX135
Nexus 6 has the Sony IMX214 (same as oneplus)
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Which one is better?
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Which one is better?
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http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/new_pro/april_2014/imx214_e.html
214. The OnePlus One can take some great pictures. The N6 should be similar if not equal but I am concerned that the camera app won't take full advantage of what that sensor can do. Hopefully it will.
It's super interesting to me that the front-facing camera has 1.4um pixel size vs the 1.12um.. even smaller than the Nexus 5's. I guess they prioritized good low-lighting shots for selfies not photos.
The hardware seems to be there. Google just needs to develop the software to take advantage of the hardware. Heck, even the Nexus 5 has decent camera hardware.. The software is where it was lacking.
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Moto X 2nd gen has the Sony IMX135
Nexus 6 has the Sony IMX214 (same as oneplus)
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Where did you find this info? For the Nexus 6?
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Where did you find this info? For the Nexus 6?
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http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
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http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/new_pro/april_2014/imx214_e.html
214. The OnePlus One can take some great pictures. The N6 should be similar if not equal but I am concerned that the camera app won't take full advantage of what that sensor can do. Hopefully it will.
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The important thing to keep in mind here is that this is a 1/3 sensor, like all other sensors out their in flagship phones these days. There is only so much you can do with a 1/3 sensor. So it will be fine, but nothing special. 1/3 sensors first debuted in phones, in 2006 with the Nokia N93 (at the time an advance over the 1/4 sensors). So this is eight year old tehnology. And yet it is the status quo in today's phones.
The only notable exception, I know of, is the Galaxy S5 that has a 1/2.5 sensor (and also the Xperia Z3 I think). The S5 takes pretty good photos. Nothing else is going to be as good as the S5. I promise the Nexus 6 will not hold a candle to the S5. The Z3 is not so good as the S5 for somewhat inexplicable reasons; I don't know why Sony can't get their act together, despite being the supplier of sensors to so many other companies, but the cameras in their recent phones have consistently underperformed.
And of course there is the Nokia 1020 with a huge 1/1.5 sensor and the Nokia 808 with and even huger 1/1.2 sensor, that's phsically five times larger than a 1/3 sensor. Those are great camera phones. But you have to sacrifice thinness to have sensors like that. Then there's the four year old Nokia N8 with a 1/1.8 sensor that still eclipses todays best of the best. And even the five year old Nokia N86 has a 1/2.5 sensor that takes as good photos as any phone today, including the S5.
Physical sensor size (not megapixels) matters because it allows the camera to take in more light, render colors better, have less noise, and perform better in low light. Everything else is pretty much gimmicks and fiddling around the edges (except OIS is a nice feature, I think--and resolution and frame rates for video has gotten better--though 4K seems like a stupid exercise when no one has a computer screen or television that can render that level of resolution).
Anyway, so the Nexus 6 has just another medicore 1/3 sensor that will take fine snapshots. Mainly it is an advance over previous Nexus phones that had subpar cameras, but other than that it is just catching up to the mediocre pack of today's flagship pones. If you want the best camera in a normal phone, get an S5. If you want a truly great camera and can stand Windows Phone or the defunct Symbian OS, get a Nokia 1020 or Nokia 808. Everything else is just whatever.
Isn't the Note 4 better than the S5 in terms of camera performance?
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The important thing to keep in mind here is that this is a 1/3 sensor, like all other sensors out their in flagship phones these days. There is only so much you can do with a 1/3 sensor. So it will be fine, but nothing special. 1/3 sensors first debuted in phones, in 2006 with the Nokia N93 (at the time an advance over the 1/4 sensors). So this is eight year old tehnology. And yet it is the status quo in today's phones.
The only notable exception, I know of, is the Galaxy S5 that has a 1/2.5 sensor (and also the Xperia Z3 I think). The S5 takes pretty good photos. Nothing else is going to be as good as the S5. I promise the Nexus 6 will not hold a candle to the S5. The Z3 is not so good as the S5 for somewhat inexplicable reasons; I don't know why Sony can't get their act together, despite being the supplier of sensors to so many other companies, but the cameras in their recent phones have consistently underperformed.
And of course there is the Nokia 1020 with a huge 1/1.5 sensor and the Nokia 808 with and even huger 1/1.2 sensor, that's phsically five times larger than a 1/3 sensor. Those are great camera phones. But you have to sacrifice thinness to have sensors like that. Then there's the four year old Nokia N8 with a 1/1.8 sensor that still eclipses todays best of the best. And even the five year old Nokia N86 has a 1/2.5 sensor that takes as good photos as any phone today, including the S5.
Physical sensor size (not megapixels) matters because it allows the camera to take in more light, render colors better, have less noise, and perform better in low light. Everything else is pretty much gimmicks and fiddling around the edges (except OIS is a nice feature, I think--and resolution and frame rates for video has gotten better--though 4K seems like a stupid exercise when no one has a computer screen or television that can render that level of resolution).
Anyway, so the Nexus 6 has just another medicore 1/3 sensor that will take fine snapshots. Mainly it is an advance over previous Nexus phones that had subpar cameras, but other than that it is just catching up to the mediocre pack of today's flagship pones. If you want the best camera in a normal phone, get an S5. If you want a truly great camera and can stand Windows Phone or the defunct Symbian OS, get a Nokia 1020 or Nokia 808. Everything else is just whatever.
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This was very informative. This really relieves me of not being so down about not having the imx214 in the Moto X 2014
Also, hello again. I've seen you before in the Moto X 2014 forums lol
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Isn't the Note 4 better than the S5 in terms of camera performance?
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It should be, if it is using the same sensor as s5. On top of that, it is using OIS. The Note 4 should be the new benchmark in terms of camera quality for Android
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What about this camera compared to the LG G3? My G3 takes the best photos I've ever had from a phone. The megapixel count is the same between the two, but it has a Sony IMX135.. and it has that laser autofocus which is pretty nice for fast shots.
Also, what about the N6 being f2.0 aperture over the typical 2.2 or 2.4?
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I'm not into phablets, so I don't know much about the Note 4. It looks like it has a Sony IMX240 sesnor, with a 1/2.6 sensor, so slightly smaller than the 1/2.5 sensor in the S5. It does have OIS though, which should help with longer exposures in low light. The S5 has an "Isocell" sensor, which is supposed to have barriers between pixels that helps improve color accuracy and sharpness (see: http://connect.dpreview.com/post/0315472077/samsung-explains-the-galaxy-s5-isocell-sensor). I know the S5 has atypically good color accuracy for a phone, though part of that is a choice on Samsungs part not to favor in the post-processing the oversaturated colors that many people like (i.e. that many people mistake for better photos--people often find more accurate colors to look washed out). Anyway, since Samsung usually does a good job in their flagships, I would not be surprised if the Note 4 is comparable or slightly better than the S5. But it's going to be minor differences, I think.
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This was very informative. This really relieves me of not being so down about not having the imx214 in the Moto X 2014
Also, hello again. I've seen you before in the Moto X 2014 forums lol
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Yes, the new Nexus phone and the 2nd Gen. Moto X are the two phones I'm looking at to replace my Nexus 4, so I've been hanging around both forums. For the moment I'm just trying to get over my raging disappointment that the Nexus 6 really is a huge 6" phablet. Sigh. It does have some nice upgrades over the 2nd Gen. Moto X, I think. (Though if it lacks the four microphone noise cancellation in the Moto X, that's a deal killer for me--I haven't been able to confirm anything about this yet.)
I wouldn't worry about the different sensors in the phones much. They're both fine and more or less in the same ballpark of quality, as 1/3 sensors. OIS on the Nexus 6 is nice and should help with low light photography (and video), that's the biggest difference, depending how important that is to you. In good light, I doubt you'd see much difference between the cameras. For just general snapshots of friends and things like that, I think all these phones are fine.
As I said above, I think people make way too big a deal of the differences between cameras in current flagships. Handset makers try to make a big deal out of small differences, for the sake of competition, because they can't acknowledge the truth that they've all just decided the eight year old technology of 1/3 sensors is good enough and they'd rather make super thin phones. If you're the sort of person who's really going to get into the small differences between one flagship with a 1/3 sensor and another, then you're probably the sort of person that would appreciate an S5 more, because of it's 1/2.5 sensor, and you're probably the sort of person will to take the Windows Phone plunge so you can get the truly amazing Nokia 1020 with it's 1/1.5 sensor and many other advantages (mechanical shutter, OIS, Xenon flash, pixel binning for over sampling, lossless digital zooming).
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What about this camera compared to the LG G3? My G3 takes the best photos I've ever had from a phone. The megapixel count is the same between the two, but it has a Sony IMX135.. and it has that laser autofocus which is pretty nice for fast shots.
Also, what about the N6 being f2.0 aperture over the typical 2.2 or 2.4?
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The LG G3 has the same IMX135 sensor as the 2nd Gen Moto X, but also has OIS. It's prefectly good, but still yet another 1/3 sensor. It's the same sensor in the LG G2, the Note 3, the Galaxy S4, and a bazillion other phones, so it shouldn't be meaningfully different from any of them, except for the potential low light advantage of OIS. (Check this out to see just how many phones have Sony sensors in them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor).
That being said OIS is not a miracle cure for smaller sensors. Neither is the f2.0 aperature on the Nexus 6. They're nice features, but you can only do so much with a smaller 1/3 sensor. Again, these are all ways manufacturers are trying to fiddle around to make the best out of mediocre sensors. The S5 and even the five year old Nokia N86 with 1/2.5 sensors will do almost as well in low light as a phone with OIS (I think the f2.0 will make less of a difference than OIS). And, again, the huge 1/1.8, 1/1.5, 1/1.2 sensors in the Nokia N8, 1020, and 808 (respectively) are going to way out perform a 1/3 sensor with OIS in low light (as well as in every other situation)--and of course the 1020 also has OIS, on top of a huge sensor.
At this point, I don't really know why all flaghips don't have OIS. It has some benefits. And it's stupid to have to choose between a mediocre 1/3 sensor with OIS and a larger 1/2.5 sensor without OIS. It's like two different choices of how to shoot yourself in the foot.
All that to say, I still think these are all pretty minor differences between phones with more or less similar image making capabilities. I wouldn't choose between the LG G3, Moto X, or Nexus 6 for the camera. I might (might) choose the S5 for the camera, but I hate Samsung phones, so I really wouldn't ever get an S5. If the camera really was the main issue to me, I'd get a Nokia 1020 and enter the wonderful world of Windows Phone (which I think is under rated as an interface anyway). But that's really for the serious photographers.
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A final word to the wise. Take the reviews of phone cameras you see online with a huge grain of salt. There are very few sites that do a good job and know what they are talking about. Most site reviewers are essentially amature photographers, making incredibly subjective judgments about images, with no real knowledge of how to take photos in a way that allow for good comparisons, and overplay the differences between today's phones (since they get the phones for free to review, they also have huge conflicts of interest and will mostly avoid saying anything too negative--like acknowledging that the differences between these phones a relatively minor). Dpreview.com is probably the best site I know of.
Great read dude. I've owned several Samsung's and nexus phones. None could take the quality pics my HTC DNA could. Would that be software related? I loved that damn phone.
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Great read dude. I've owned several Samsung's and nexus phones. None could take the quality pics my HTC DNA could. Would that be software related? I loved that damn phone.
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I'm not especially familiar with the DNA and can't find any information about its sensor, although it appears to have a decent f2.0 aperature. Seems like it had the same sensor as the HTC One X, which was a 1/3.2 backside illuminated CMOS sensor. Reviews seem to find that the HTC One, with it's ultrapixels, took better (more color accurate) photos.
Perhaps there was just something about how the DNA did post-processing on the images that you subjectively liked better.
This is a good example of how sensors have stayed in the 1/3 ballpark for a long time and an older phone can be just as good as today's "flagships," which is basically the point I've been making.
I think the Nexus 5 that your signature says you have (like the Nexus 4 before it) has as somewhat subpar camera by the current standards. So it's understandable that coming from the DNA you could be having a worse experience--though the Nexus 5 has a similar 1/3.2 sensor and OIS. The Nexus 6, if you're' in the market for one, ought to be a decent improvement over the Nexus 5 and better than the DNA. Especially since the Nexus 6 has OIS, on top of a newer and slightly larger 1/3.06 sensor. But, still, I think they are all in the same general range as cameras.
What's with the 30 fps stat listed on the google and moto specific pages... Up to 4k recording but no slow motion capture. I thought the OPO does slo mo.
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So if both the one + and the nexus 6 have the same camera, would the difference be night shots with flash?
I don't really know how software will play in, but I hope that the nexus 6 is more crisp than moto x. Hard to decide between this or an One+.
I also wonder why the people that are disappointed with the nexus 6's price and/or screen size don't get a one + instead.
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So if both the one + and the nexus 6 have the same camera, would the difference be night shots with flash?
I don't really know how software will play in, but I hope that the nexus 6 is more crisp than moto x. Hard to decide between this or an One+.
I also wonder why the people that are disappointed with the nexus 6's price and/or screen size don't get a one + instead.
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Because the stupid invite system ...you still can't get the freaking phone ....
One + is not available for Verizon as far as I know, or I would consider it.
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So if both the one + and the nexus 6 have the same camera, would the difference be night shots with flash?
I don't really know how software will play in, but I hope that the nexus 6 is more crisp than moto x. Hard to decide between this or an One+.
I also wonder why the people that are disappointed with the nexus 6's price and/or screen size don't get a one + instead.
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From a hardware point of view, the main difference will be that the Nexus 6 has OIS (optical image stabilization) and the OnePlus One does not. This should improve photography in low light, allowing for longer exposures. And it will allow for more fluid and stable video, when moving the camera and shooting at the same time. The OnePlus One does have digital image stablization, which OnePlus made a big deal about, but digital image stablization sucks and reviews of the OnePlus One demonstrated this, as if it really needed to be demonstrated yet again on another device.
There could be software differences, in terms of how the phones post-process the images. The OnePlus One, like many phones, produces over-saturated colors, because people tend to like that better (they see the bright colors and think it is a better photo, even though it is an inaccurate representation of the colors in the actual scene). I wouldn't hold my breath for Google choosing to do something different, however. Over-saturated colors are pretty much the norm, not many phones go for more realistic colors. Also, phones sometimes vary on how much sharpening they apply in post processing. Again, sharpening creates the superficial appearance of a sharper image, but actually eliminates detail in the photo, if you zoom way in. Of course, these are things that can be corrected later with image editing software, if you care.
We'll really have to wait for reviews on high quality sites, like Dpreview, before we know if the Nexus 6 and OnePlus One vary at all in how they do post-processing.
Look just like a bigger Moto X made by the same company that makes Moto x. Boring. Waiting for Note 5.
Because the Galaxy Note Phablets do not look like their Galaxy S Phone counterparts, right?
Did you really need to make a thread to state your opinion, rather than simply state it in the "What do you think" thread?
Enjoy waiting an entire year.
OP probably mad cause can't afford it pz.
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Because the Galaxy Note Phablets do not look like their Galaxy S Phone counterparts, right?
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Hello?
Stylus? Wacom? S Note, S Pen?
Note series has a purpose.
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Hello?
Stylus? Wacom? S Note, S Pen?
Note series has a purpose.
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Goodbye
Bloated, Touchwiz, Sluggish, Lag
You should track down Richard Yarrell.
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Goodbye
Bloated, Touchwiz, Sluggish, Lag
You should track down Richard Yarrell.
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OP has a good point, you can't just dismiss his arguments just because Samsung sucks.
The point OP is trying to make is that at least the Note series offers more diversity than the Galaxy S counterparts, whereas the Nexus 6 is just a bigger version of the Moto X (with almost identical specs) and almost no phablet benefits.
Op is mad but who cares
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Different guts!
HTC One M8
Jimlarck said:
OP has a good point, you can't just dismiss his arguments just because Samsung sucks.
The point OP is trying to make is that at least the Note series offers more diversity than the Galaxy S counterparts, whereas the Nexus 6 is just a bigger version of the Moto X (with almost identical specs) and almost no phablet benefits.
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Sure, it looks like a bigger Moto X. Specs wise though it isn't. Higher res screen, bigger battery, better camera with OIS, stereo speakers (only 1on the X), and that's what I can remember from the top of my head. If someone is trying to justify not purchasing it for some reason, fine. However, don't just call it a bigger X
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Sure, it looks like a bigger Moto X. Specs wise though it isn't. Higher res screen, bigger battery, better camera with OIS, stereo speakers (only 1on the X), and that's what I can remember from the top of my head. If someone is trying to justify not purchasing it for some reason, fine. However, don't just call it a bigger X
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Higher resolution and bigger battery is expected with a bigger phone. Nothing special. Nothing to differentiate it from moto X apart from the size.
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Sure, it looks like a bigger Moto X. Specs wise though it isn't. Higher res screen, bigger battery, better camera with OIS, stereo speakers (only 1on the X), and that's what I can remember from the top of my head. If someone is trying to justify not purchasing it for some reason, fine. However, don't just call it a bigger X
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Alright, you got me there.
Nexus 6 vs Moto X
2K display vs 1080p
3GB RAM vs 2GB
S805 vs S801
3220mAh vs 2300mAh
Adreno 420 vs Adreno 330
13MP (OIS) vs 13MP
$649 vs $549
A hundred dollars extra for an upscaled Moto X (both size and spec-wise).
Now I guess the only other argument someone can make is the lack of phablet-unique tools/features. But at this point it depends on how Android Lollipop will handle phablets.
Sorry OP, your claim has been disproven. The Nexus 6 is not just a bigger Moto X.
is screen amoled?
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is screen amoled?
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Apparently so. Guessing it's for better battery consumption on darker colors.
Also has qi charging. And a lack of tacky back covers
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Apparently so. Guessing it's for better battery consumption on darker colors.
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I guess might be a good media consumption device.
If only it had stylus, removable battery and sd card, then I might buy it.
the n6 looks better as well
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Sure, it looks like a bigger Moto X. Specs wise though it isn't. Higher res screen, bigger battery, better camera with OIS, stereo speakers (only 1on the X), and that's what I can remember from the top of my head. If someone is trying to justify not purchasing it for some reason, fine. However, don't just call it a bigger X
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Right.
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Higher resolution and bigger battery is expected with a bigger phone. Nothing special. Nothing to differentiate it from moto X apart from the size.
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Completely wrong.
It's not just bigger. Unlike the 2nd Gen Moto X, the Nexus 6 has:
OIS
3 GB ram (vs. 2 GB on Moto X)
64 GB storage option (32 GB max on Moto X)
Bigger battery (that will do much more than just compensate for the larger screen)
It covers more LTE bands (such as band 12 for T-Mobile, which the 2nd Gen Moto X is missing) and is more of a true global phone.
stereo speakers
USB-On-the-go
Wifi Direct
Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Moto X)
Krait 450 CPU (vs 400 on Moto X)
Adrena 420 GPU (vs 330 on Moto X)
The Nexus 6 is a much better device in many ways than the 2nd Gen Moto X. It also has a much more subdued version of the Motorola Logo on the back (which is really ugly, I think, on the 2nd Gen Moto X, marring an otherwise nice design).
(But too bad it's so huge, sigh. I don't really want a phablet.)
Jimlarck said:
OP has a good point, you can't just dismiss his arguments just because Samsung sucks.
The point OP is trying to make is that at least the Note series offers more diversity than the Galaxy S counterparts, whereas the Nexus 6 is just a bigger version of the Moto X (with almost identical specs) and almost no phablet benefits.
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Op is a troll who starts **** in the moto threads. Nothing to see here
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Sure, it looks like a bigger Moto X. Specs wise though it isn't. Higher res screen, bigger battery, better camera with OIS, stereo speakers (only 1on the X), and that's what I can remember from the top of my head. If someone is trying to justify not purchasing it for some reason, fine. However, don't just call it a bigger X
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Thank u
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I have to add that I just came from motorolas version of a nexus being the Moto x pure and I immediately had way more interest when i got my hands on the N5x.
Regardless of the Moto x specs 21mp cam and ram .... I get better pic quality by far even with only a 12.2 mp camera better keyboard response better feel with screen size more unique development and mods available and easier root etc...
Anyone agree coming from a Moto x ?
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I fully agree!
I was switching the devices too and I'm far more "impressed" by the N5x, than I was when I unboxed my Moto X Style/Pure. Impressive Cam, very light, perfect size (at least for me), the battery stats (getting up to 6 SoT with Custom Kernel and deactivated encryption). I'm pretty happy with the switch and I'm not regretting it one bit.
androidddaaron said:
I have to add that I just came from motorolas version of a nexus being the Moto x pure and I immediately had way more interest when i got my hands on the N5x.
Regardless of the Moto x specs 21mp cam and ram .... I get better pic quality by far even with only a 12.2 mp camera better keyboard response better feel with screen size more unique development and mods available and easier root etc...
Anyone agree coming from a Moto x ?
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Moto Display is much better than ambient display. It's one killer feature for Moto.
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Moto Display is much better than ambient display. It's one killer feature for Moto.
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True.
Switched from moto x pure to N5X 3 week's ago. Was a bit hesitant because of the smaller battery and the 2gb ram on it. Somehow everything on the N5X feels right... The camera, the fingerprint sensor, the size and weight. I bought the moto x thinking I was done with rooting and modding my phone's but I was wrong. I enjoy playing with it too much and the dev support on the moto was just not strong enough for me. Indeed moto display does work better but then again...the N5X does have a LED on it. Getting 4 to 5hrs SOT on both phones and no lag so far....I'm really happy I made the switch!
Nexus 5X V Moto X Pure
I was considering between the two and decided to go with the 5X mainly because of the screen size and Nexus branding. Although, I was really on the fence about it because of the Moto X's superior memory (3GB vs 2GB) and video stabilization. In the end I am glad to hear the opinion of someone who has had experience with both #TeamNexus
I also sold my 2015 Moto X Pure Edition for the Nexus 5X. I would have probably kept it if it weren't for the size. Moto Display is better than Ambient Display, but they both suck on LCD screens. All of the Moto features were quite nice and added more value to the phone than most ROM features (IMO). It was near prefect but was too big and heavy for me. I probably wont ever own another "Moto" phone now that Motorola is now dead.
FWIW, before I got my smart watch I enjoyed a feature on Light Manager that would wake the screen up whenever I got a notification.
I've gone back an forth between both devices a few times and here are my thoughts. Battery life on the moto X is better. The Moto does not have input lag, where it can make the 5x at times very frustrating to use. You can certainly feel the difference that extra gig of ram makes. The nexus has the far superior camera and usability from a size stand point. I love the size and weight of the 5x. For me, in the end it was the moto x. I like the expandable memory and smooth operation of the device. The moto features are also a huge plus for me as I drive a lot in my job. Hope this helps.
So with the new google and Samsung phone out. What do I really gain to switch. I unlocked my boot loader, I can load just anything right? So what do I really gain to upgrade? I just don't see that much difference. Am I missing something? This phone has really been great. I bought the 64 gig one. Never had any problem with it. I have never had a phone this long, almost 2 years now. I bought this phone the day it came out. I have read all the spec and just don't see much difference right now. Updates? Am I going to be paying 850 for updates? A little better camera?
What do you see?
Nothing. In the end its just a phone. I love my droid turbo 64 gig with a almost 2 day battery. Camera needs some work but takes decent pictures. Unlocked bootloader and running RR ROM so I'm set with this phone until development ends on XDA.
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I'd probably buy the droid g4 plus 64gig sd 4gig ram
Octocore 3000mah battery 1080 screen.
$300 on Amazon and a good start on dev work
I know the battery and screen is a downgrade but who honestly needs a 2k screen? That's just wasted gpu power on a screen this small.
mrkhigh said:
I'd probably buy the droid g4 plus 64gig sd 4gig ram
Octocore 3000mah battery 1080 screen.
$300 on Amazon and a good start on dev work
I know the battery and screen is a downgrade but who honestly needs a 2k screen? That's just wasted gpu power on a screen this small.
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Once I went 1440p I can't go back, especially 1440p AMOLED. And I don't like very large screens like the Moto Nexus 6. This was "my" Nexus 6.
The ZTE Axon 7 right now for $400 slaps the new Pixel XL silly. It matches or beats almost every spec, except for possibly the camera. (And the camera isn't' worth an extra $400!) Google should be ashamed of themselves.
I'm keeping this phone at least another year.
See I've always been annoyed by the thought of the battery power wasted by this screen.... No idea how hard the gpu hits it. But it's definitely finer than I'm worried about
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ZTE is a brand that scares me. They released some trash early on.
Given the dev work and octocore processor I'd still go moto g4
All you can gain is a bigger screen and in some scenario's (not all!) a better camera. Furtheron you are more likely to downgrade rather than upgrade.
You have your bootloader unlocked so you are able to flash MM as stock (brazillian by iWoody) or Cyanogenmod or any other custom kernel and ROM. You can do all the modifications possible on a MM device, your Droid has all the sensors (are there even sensors added on newer devices besides OIS?)
You can increase batterylife with greenify and dark themes (which I prefer in general), and keep the phone up a solid two and a half days regular use
In case the camera is an issue I suggest you to go for CameraFX zoom, since this has a function to measure stability before taking the shot. To me, this comes most close to reach ois possible for the Droid and have some better quality on my photos. Also, you have the option to store RAW photos, which also increases the quality. I have a preview attached to this post
I bought myself a VR gear and along with the 2k screen it is performing very well as virtual reality. I would not quickly settle for 1080p again in VR world.
Fingerprint sensor. External SD card. Other than that, nothing.
bought a zuk z2, used for 3 days, sold it
i miss so much my droid turbo
come back again to turbo
i will only change speakers in phone, better lcd with sun, and remove those capacitive buttons
rest is just perfect
eheheh said:
bought a zuk z2, used for 3 days, sold it
i miss so much my droid turbo
come back again to turbo
i will only change speakers in phone, better lcd with sun, and remove those capacitive buttons
rest is just perfect
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Stereo speakers + rear camera OIS added to this phone would make it prefect. Basically all the specs the Moto Nexus 6 had, just in a more reasonable size. Motorola almost made it perfect -- releasing the "Nexus 6" Google should have... Motorola just left off stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, for unknown reasons.
ChazzMatt said:
Stereo speakers + rear camera OIS added to this phone would make it prefect. Basically all the specs the Moto Nexus 6 had, just in a more reasonable size. Motorola almost made it perfect -- releasing the "Nexus 6" Google should have... Motorola just left off stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, for unknown reasons.
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To bad phones can't be PC. Having the ability to swap out certain components to make it better.
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ChazzMatt said:
Stereo speakers + rear camera OIS added to this phone would make it prefect. Basically all the specs the Moto Nexus 6 had, just in a more reasonable size. Motorola almost made it perfect -- releasing the "Nexus 6" Google should have... Motorola just left off stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, for unknown reasons.
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btw for you opinion what is the best custom rom for droid turbo? i´m thinking of unlocking bootloader and install one of them, not that i´m unhappy with the 5.1.1. stock, but it hasn´t my language, Portuguese PT not br
and btw custom rom will gain more battery?
thanks