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Hello friends. As everyone aware, Motorola cameras are usually infamous for delivering poor pictures whereas I have been using Motorola phones since long time and somehow found them better than the competitors in terms of delivering details in the pictures. Motorola usually applies very minor software filtering into the images which results into grainy pictures but at the same time, those pictures retain as much as possible details. Reason behind grain/noise is the tinny sensor.
Have been experimenting a lot on my Moto X camera since I bought it. Today I tested something different and that was lowering the resolution at the time of shooting. And the results were surprisingly positive.
The magic is, just download any other camera app which allows shooting in lower resolution like 8MP or 5MP. The software filtering algorithm applied by the camera software is not suitable for the 13MP pictures. Whereas it does magic on the 8MP or 5MP pictures. The pictures captured at 13MP come up with lot of artifacts and noise around edges of the objects. But if pictures are taken in lower resolution then they come out very nicely, the ugly artifacts are just gone and noise is also reduced.
Now those who are thinking that we will be loosing out data or details if we shoot in lower resolution then let me assure that it won't matter, atleast not in 99.99% cases. You won't be loosing any significant detail from the picture, rather the lower resolution will make pictures more desirable to store or print, they will be more cleaner and smaller in size to store.
If pictures would have been taken in some DSLR or any other camera having decent size sensor then capturing lower resolution images would have definitely caused in loss of details but it won't matter in the mobile camera, atleast not in the current generation mobile cameras.
I found 5MP more cleaner but 8MP is best compromise if anyone is doubtful about loosing out details over 13MP.
13MP = 3120 X 4160 pixles = 15.6 X 20.8 inches @ 200dpi print size
8MP = 2448 X 3264 pixels = 12.24 X 16.32 inches @ 200dpi print size
5 MP = 1944 X 2592 pixels = 9.72 X 12.96 inches @ 200dpi print size
So even if you capture 5MP picture, there is still more than enough data for a print around A4 paper size.
Now important notes:
1. Capturing images at 13MP and downsizing them into 8MP or 5MP in the image editor will not fix the issue because the internal software algorithm is applied at the time shooting and that is not suitable for the 13MP resolution, even if we use any 3rd party app. So capturing images in 13MP mode and downsizing them into 8MP/5Mp is not same as shooting in 8MP/5MP modes in case of Moto X. Results are different.
2. Stock camera app doesn't support low resolution captures. No, that 9.7 widescreen mode is not low resolution, that just crops the edges. You will have to download any other app for low resolution captures. Just set the 8MP or 5MP resolution in the camera app and shoot pictures, but it should 4:3 format, if you are interested in 16:9 ratio format then you will have to set the resolution accordingly which will be more lower.
To name a few good apps : Best is : Modified Motorola stock camera app which is usually named as Camera+, can be found on XDA. You can also control the noise filtering in the app if want more details at the cost of additional colorful grain. Others are - Google Camera, Open camera, A Better Camera (Night mode of this app is really wonderful, use it for low light shooting) etc.
These are 100% crops from a daylight capture. EXIF : 1/40Sec, ISO-50
Download them and zoom out and try to notice details and the ugly artifacts:
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These are crops from the same shot but upsized to 400% to magnify the pixel level details. Ugly artifacts ruining the image details can be noticed in the 13MP captures:
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These are crops form the same image but upsized to +400% to magnify the pixel level details:
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These are low light shots of an advertisement in a magazine. Source of light was one CFL and window covered with blinds. Exif details : 1/33 sec, ISO-320.
100% crops:
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These are crops form the same image but upsized to +400% to magnify the pixel level details:
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Here is another shot. EXIF : 1/33 sec, ISO-500
100% crop.
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Now you must understand why Apple is still giving only 8MP camera? Because anything over that is just plain marketing gimmick, nothing more than that and needlessly occupies extra space in the storage. Mobile phone camera sensors are very tinny in size thus they are not worth to push to capture anything over 5-8MP yet. I have seen pictures taken from the likes of Galaxy S5, S6 and Sony flagships and they were nowhere near to any true high resolution image. Their software are much more aggressive which clean up the noise and bump up the sharpness at edges more aggressively but at the same they end up eating lot of details and leave the water-painting kind of ugly effects all over the images. Thankfully such aggressive filtering is not applied by Motorola, atleast not in the daylight shots.
Would have loved if Motorola had provided Camera 2 API support, that would have given more RAW data. If no than atleast different resolution modes should have been supported in the stock camera app. Let's ask Motorola to do that, let's shoot emails to them
Request to moderators - please don't merge this thread with other existing camera threads.
If anyone else have more tips to improve picture quality then please share here.
Hope this thread helps :good:
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UPDATE
Adding more samples:
Blind test:
100% crop
400% magnified of the crop
More details about the above crops:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61549911&postcount=42
More posts with better samples and tests:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61552083&postcount=43
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61553750&postcount=44
Answers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61566883&postcount=52
Will try to implement these great tips. Have you tried to use Camera 360 Paid version too? I was actually able to tweak some shutter speed in it. Had i understood more about it, it would have really helped a lot. Its only problem is that the app keeps running in the background causing huge useless battery drain.
I love Stock Android on the Moto X 2014 ?
grubber24 said:
Will try to implement these great tips. Have you tried to use Camera 360 Paid version too? I was actually able to tweak some shutter speed in it. Had i understood more about it, it would have really helped a lot. Its only problem is that the app keeps running in the background causing huge useless battery drain.
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Actually there is some sort of internal software filtering which is applied at the time of shot capturing which you cant bypass unless the phone has got unlocked RAW shooting capabilities which Moto X hasn't got yet. So the damage is already done at the time of capturing itself which can't be reversed. The effective solution is to shoot in 8MP/5MP mode. If you have better camera app then it will be able to do more betterment since we are minimizing the internal damages caused by the flawed internal filtering in the firmware.
Please see the samples attached by me at 100%, you will get what I mean.
Ehhh the samples don't look very good. Best advice is to take pics at highest resolution and use imagenomic noiseware.
seabass950 said:
Ehhh the samples don't look very good.
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Obviously, I did not capture the shots to submit into some photo contest, I was emphasizing on something different which I have explained in detail in the opening post. Whatever I have posted are cropped portions of the full resolution images
Best advice is to take pics at highest resolution and use imagenomic noiseware.
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Noise removal tools will do magics if you apply them on 8MP/5MP shots instead of the 13MP. The max possible resolution is actually spoiling the pictures in the case of MotoX. It adds hell lot of artifacts in the 13MP pictures, thats what I meant by this post. To make things more clear, its not like typical downsizing to reduce the noise. Infact downsizing the 13MP shots into 8MP or 5MP won't reduce the artifacts, those will remain there but capturing the images directly into the 8MP/5MP modes yielding much different and better results.
Please test yourself if you don't believe me.
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All of the images I posted were unedited except resizing and cropping.
Here is one comparo which shows the terrible artifacts ruining the pictures and they exist only in the 13MP shots:
400% upsized version:
See this image shot from the stock moto camera at 13mp with manual focus and manual exposure. Just added my signature in it! I think the camera app did pretty awesome in just a flash and macro mode even in low light! Surprisingly!
Here are crops from the few test shots I captured in 8MP mode today, no other editing except cropping.
Pictures are coming out much more clearer, no ugly artifacts, no need for any post processing to clean out the noise now.
Post processing has become a breeze now, earlier artifact were coming in the way of post processing if I wanted to add some effects or wanted to add more sharpness in the pictures.
Tl/Dr: use Google Camera at 5 or 8 mp, pictures automatically become better?
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Tl/Dr: use Google Camera at 5 or 8 mp, pictures automatically become better?
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Yes. Try yourself to belive it.
Shoot few different light condition shots at 13MP, 8MP and 5MP then see yourself the difference by zooming into the pictures, probably on computer monitor. You will find ugly artifacts only in the 13MP mode which won't be in the other two modes.
So true about megapixels not mattering much.
Here is a "famous" article from 2008 when the megapixel wars started in earnest. It was wriiten about DSLR's but applies here as well.
Interesting read if you like this kind of stuff:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
I'm using HTC Camera for a while now and after this thread I realize that the highest resolution from the app is 9.7MP.
With the best autofocus I've ever seen, this camera is the best.
I just did some limited testing of 13mp vs 5mp. Low light shooting a group of objects, some with text on them. 5mp definitely better. Object borders less blurred. Text easier to read in 5mp. I used the debug settings in the stock camera. Made accessible w/ the xposed module known as "moto checkbox"
Julianocas said:
I'm using HTC Camera for a while now and after this thread I realize that the highest resolution from the app is 9.7MP.
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That is widescreen mode which is there in the stock camera app as well. Read the point number "2" in my opening post for detailed explanation. You will have to shoot in median (3840X2160 mode to get 8MP equivalent quality.
CUBENSIS said:
I just did some limited testing of 13mp vs 5mp. Low light shooting a group of objects, some with text on them. 5mp definitely better. Object borders less blurred. Text easier to read in 5mp. I used the debug settings in the stock camera. Made accessible w/ the xposed module known as "moto checkbox"
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If using xposed then you must also see few options for noise filtering? If so then see if there is chcekbox for QC denoise or similar, if it is then turn it off. Now you can get more details in the 13MP but pictures will be grainy/noisy, especially in lowlight situations.
So if one wants decent quality pictures straight out of the camera then better to shoot in 5MP or 8MP resolutions.
Great work indeed jacky !!! You seem tonknow your images well and how to capture em .. way to go mate .
All the best
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any way to fix the focus issue of the camera? i believe i'm not the only one facing issues while attempting to take macro shots not that it really matters much to me.. hardly use the camera but yeah. this phone would've been a lot more popular if the camera was on par with the rest!
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any way to fix the focus issue of the camera? i believe i'm not the only one facing issues while attempting to take macro shots not that it really matters much to me.. hardly use the camera but yeah. this phone would've been a lot more popular if the camera was on par with the rest!
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Believe me, this is one of the best cellphone camera I've come across. so far.
Have a look at these macro shots I posted earlier after following the majors I posted in the opening post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61501824&postcount=7
About the focusing issue, have you tried enabling manual focus and turning off Auto HDR off? Also try out some other apps, please go thorough my opening post for hints on apps and other tips.
Only hardware problem this phone has got is that the lens is little bit misaligned at one corner so around 15-20% portion in that area always comes out blurred. Though most of other cellphone cameras also don't have perfect lenses all around the corners.
Thanks a lot for all the great analysis done! The study done by you should be forwarded to motorola for analysis and improvement! Now i am really getting great macro shots from the camera which i can boast about. Just one question, have u tried to revert back to earlier camera versions and done this analysis?
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Thanks a lot for all the great analysis done! The study done by you should be forwarded to motorola for analysis and improvement!
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Yeah, I had spent whole day yesterday on the analysis and thread post, rather have been experimenting a lot since I bought the phone and almost tried all the good camera apps available in the market. Reason was it was getting hard to digest for me that my previous 8MP Motorola phone was delivering better results than the 13MP of MotoX which is from the 3 years old generation compared to the MotoX which has got one of the best sensor.
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have u tried to revert back to earlier camera versions and done this analysis?
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I have lot of pictures captured from different stock camera app versions in different Android firmwares since Kitkat to 5.1 and all of those were captured in 13MP mode and all of them have ugly artifacts. I always thought to resize all of my MotoX captures into half but that downsizing also didn't help.
Only wish that the idea of capturing the photos in the low resolution would have come earlier in my mind, I would have had all of my previous captures in this new found better quality.
Now I am not using the stock app since it doesn't allow changing the resolution. Only wish we could set other app of our liking as default which can be launched using voice command and twist wrist gesture.
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Yeah, I had spent whole day yesterday on the analysis and thread post, rather have been experimenting a lot since I bought the phone and almost tried all the good camera apps available in the market. Reason was it was getting hard to digest for me that my previous 8MP Motorola phone was delivering better results than the 13MP of MotoX which is from the 3 years old generation compared to the MotoX which has got one of the best sensor.
I have lot of pictures captured from different stock camera app versions in different Android firmwares since Kitkat to 5.1 and all of those pictures have ugly artifacts. I always thought to resize all of my MotoX captures into half but that downsizing also didn't help. Only wish that the idea of capturing the photos in the low resolution would have come earlier in my mind, I would have had all of my previous captures in this new found better quality.
Now I am not using the stock app since it doesn't allow changing in resolution. Only wish we could set other app of our liking as default which can be launched using voice command and twist wrist gesture.
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I loaded the xposed moto checkbox module and with the dev options for camera turned on you can change picture size to:
4160x2340
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3264x1836
2592x1458
1920x1080
1280x720
Would this not work for the methods your recommending? Or am I missing something?
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I loaded the xposed moto checkbox module and with the dev options for camera turned on you can change picture size to:
4160x2340
3840x2160
3264x1836
2592x1458
1920x1080
1280x720
Would this not work for the methods your recommending? Or am I missing something?
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That will definitely work, just make sure that you are capturing in 5MP/4:3 ratio or 8MP/4:3 ratio, not the 9.7MP/16:9 ratio mode. Please see my post number 13.
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Thanks a lot for all the great analysis done! The study done by you should be forwarded to motorola for analysis and improvement!
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If we can reach to Motorola then I have more ideas to share with them, but that looks highly unlikely. They look least interested in the camera, look at the terrible picture quality 20MP camera of Moto Droid Turbo produces. And hopes are more down after knowing that the company is now owned by new Chinese parent Lenovo.
Here are some one plus x camera samples, I hope this thread helps others to get an idea about one plus x camera.
Video Samples of One Plus X Camera by some youtuber.
Front Camera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMyjawiSG4s
Rear Camera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAvlGPNpxvw
TL;DR, it looks like the X will probably have a decent daylight camera that produces somewhat soft & noisy images in low light, with quick focus & decent colors but a so-so AOSP-ish camera app.
GSM Arena's hands-on review is one of the few with any camera samples or evaluation.
HDR Off
HDR On
The image quality can vaguely be described as good. We could only test it indoors in poor lighting conditions. Considering the odds were stacked against it, we'd say the camera fared well and despite the lighting, the images are usable with good amount of detail and acceptable amount of noise. We'd like to test it more thoroughly in different lighting conditions but from our brief experience with it we are willing to bet the overall image quality is going to be pretty good.
The camera speed is also impressive. The camera launches and shoots quickly. The phase detection autofocus occasionally falters but is still quick even in low light.
The camera software is similar to the one on the OnePlus 2, which means it's really not very good. It follows the Google Camera app too closely, which honestly is far from user-friendly. There aren't many shooting options available and the app makes you feel like a novice who has just figured out how to take a picture. Those who want more control are bound to be left frustrated.
The camera app doesn't have any quick launch gesture by default but you can assign any of the capacitive buttons below the display to launch the camera by double tapping, but this only works if the phone is unlocked.
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Add this to the evaluation:
engadget.com said:
An immediate worry is the OnePlus X's camera -- the 13-megapixel sensor is supposed to be a highlight of the device, but I wasn't all that impressed. On the 28th floor of a tower in central London, the photos it spat out looked a little soft and noisy. With large windows on either side, the room wasn't exactly dark or dingy, so low-light performance could be an issue.
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I snapped a few photos and images looked sharp with accurate colors. The camera also operated quickly, with touch focus that adjusted smoothly. Its interface is kept to a minimum with few on-screen editing options.
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One Plus X Quick Camera Overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87CxoFJBq2o
Looks good to me but then im not a photografer
I have a z3 compact and I consider the X. Even though the z3c is, by many, appreciated for it's camera, for me, it's terrible. Mainly because of the freaking long time it takes to snap a photo (impossible to get a good photo of my kid). So I'd take a downgrade in "perfect conditions" for a faster camera that's reliable of snapping usable pics.
What do you reckon?
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I have a z3 compact and I consider the X. Even though the z3c is, by many, appreciated for it's camera, for me, it's terrible. Mainly because of the freaking long time it takes to snap a photo (impossible to get a good photo of my kid). So I'd take a downgrade in "perfect conditions" for a faster camera that's reliable of snapping usable pics.
What do you reckon?
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Hard to say. At this point we have very little information on the camera since no full reviews have been published.
Adebisi666 said:
I have a z3 compact and I consider the X. Even though the z3c is, by many, appreciated for it's camera, for me, it's terrible. Mainly because of the freaking long time it takes to snap a photo (impossible to get a good photo of my kid). So I'd take a downgrade in "perfect conditions" for a faster camera that's reliable of snapping usable pics.
What do you reckon?
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Agreed. Who knows, with a bit of editing, the photos might turn out to be pretty good. My old HTC One V had only a 5mp camera, but it was really fast. In good lighting and with a little tweaking, it managed to take some surprisingly good photos. I think the OnePlus X camera will do just fine, especially for the price.
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Here are mine ! I'm not a photographer at all. I'm an amateur, i even was a little bit shaky on the flower picture
Front camera
PoloB49 said:
Here are mine ! I'm not a photographer at all. I'm an amateur, i even was a little bit shaky on the flower picture
Front camera
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Can you post some low light / night photos?
Thank you so much
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Can you post some low light / night photos?
Thank you so much
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It would be great if you wouldn't quote his entire post including the pictures.
Here's a look at the OnePlus X's camera:
OnePlus X camera samples: What does $250 get you? | technobuffalo.com
qwerty123321 said:
Can you post some low light / night photos?
Thank you so much
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It's night outside, i used night mode with the app ProShot.
In normal mode :
The images look quite good. I wasn't expecting them to be that good.
How is the camera performing in taking quick snapshots? That will be my primary use for the camera.
Thanks mate
I found this interesting comparison with the camera on the Galaxy S6 Edge+.
ubergizmo.com said:
While the S6-series win if images are viewed in detail on a computer (no contest), they look quite similar on a phone screen or on Social Media. This means that for most usages (FB, Instagram, email, text…) the OnePlus X photo quality is quite comparable to the best out there. It is only when you inspect the photos from up close, that the higher resolution of high-end phones truly shows the difference:
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I can't find the Option in the camera APP to change the storage mode from pictures to SD card. Anybody know that?
criz.89 said:
I can't find the Option in the camera APP to change the storage mode from pictures to SD card. Anybody know that?
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Exactly my question.
Why do low light shots have so much noise in them? My Nexus 5 has that too, I'm sure there is a technical term for it; what does one look out for when buying a camera to avoid that? Is there a way to clean it up with software?
Naatan said:
Why do low light shots have so much noise in them? My Nexus 5 has that too, I'm sure there is a technical term for it; what does one look out for when buying a camera to avoid that? Is there a way to clean it up with software?
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The main problems are a small sensor (collects less light) and sub-par lensing giving a high f-stop (lets in less light). The software has to compensate by increasing ISO (sensitivity of the image sensor), and that's what causes the noise. It can't be photoshopped out completely, and trying will always cause a loss of image detail.
What to look for: A camera with a large sensor, large pixels, low f-stop and image stabilization.
I just noticed the selfie Camera is always out of focus or not as sharp as the mega pickles it says. I turned off the beautification mode and still same results. I compared it to my S8+ and even though it has 8mp; it captures sharp focused selfies. Tsk tsk tsk!
sharpness has nothing to do with mega pixels..
maybe you can take some sample photos with the front cameras of both devices and show here to illustrate..
hatyrei said:
I just noticed the selfie Camera is always out of focus or not as sharp as the mega pickles it says. I turned off the beautification mode and still same results. I compared it to my S8+ and even though it has 8mp; it captures sharp focused selfies. Tsk tsk tsk!
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The OP5 selfie cam has a fixed focus.
This means that there is an optimal distance which has to be kept to the camera for the pictures to be in focus.
If you are too close or too far away from the sensor you won't be sharp and there is nothing you can do about this.
Your S8+ selfie camera has autofocus, so the distance to the camera doesn't matter.
Wrong! Lol. Megapixels plays a part in photo sharpness and quality. I'm just baffled the sheer amount of marketing they have for better pics. It's a huge b.s. Ifou have the 1+5 you can try it out! And compare it to your other phones!
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The OP5 selfie cam has a fixed focus.
This means that there is an optimal distance which has to be kept to the camera for the pictures to be in focus.
If you are too close or too far away from the sensor you won't be sharp and there is nothing you can do about this.
Your S8+ selfie camera has autofocus, so the distance to the camera doesn't matter.
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So you're saying I need to hold the phone in a certain distance for the selfie shooter? I tested it in arms length but the results are still awful.
hatyrei said:
So you're saying I need to hold the phone in a certain distance for the selfie shooter? I tested it in arms length but the results are still awful.
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Exactly.
But if you still are unhappy you might try Google Camera for selfies.
I use it on my OP3 and it uses less postprocessing so depending on the lighting,
selfies come out better in my opinion. In lowlight you will see more noise though.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...amera-4-4-012-156195200-android-apk-download/
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So you're saying I need to hold the phone in a certain distance for the selfie shooter? I tested it in arms length but the results are still awful.
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Are you sure it's a focus problem? :angel:
hatyrei said:
Wrong! Lol. Megapixels plays a part in photo sharpness and quality. I'm just baffled the sheer amount of marketing they have for better pics. It's a huge b.s. Ifou have the 1+5 you can try it out! And compare it to your other phones!
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it does take part in quality but not sharpness. Sharpness has to do with optical lens and sensor size. I am in the process of returning OP5 because my 6P camera is sharper and crispier. 1.55 µm on 6P vs 1.12 µm and 1.0 µm on OP5.
Full frame DSLR like Canon 5D has 6.5+ µm.
OP5 just used legacy marketing tactic using mpx size instead of actuality of the quality.
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it does take part in quality but not sharpness. Sharpness has to do with optical lens and sensor size. I am in the process of returning OP5 because my 6P camera is sharper and crispier. 1.55 µm on 6P vs 1.12 µm and 1.0 µm on OP5.
Full frame DSLR like Canon 5D has 6.5+ µm.
OP5 just used legacy marketing tactic using mpx size instead of actuality of the quality.
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i think you are baby-sitting the wrong target.. selfie-shooters tend to know little or nothing about photography..
i ceased to provide any help here after that initial "Wrong" response.. typical response not surprisingly..
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Moto X4 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Best selfie camera I've ever had. 16mp plus a flash. Also has the selfie enhancement built into the app to use if desired.
Excellent quality. Portrait mode picture taken by Arnova's Gcam.
The front camera is outstanding.. I really love the quality of the pictures taken from the front cam.
Just a side note about the selfie camera:
It is advertised as a 16MP, but the Moto camera defaults to a 4MP (Adaptive Low Light) setting. You can manually choose the 16MP setting, but it's not selected by default. Also, I have yet to see any 3rd party camera use anything higher than 4MP on the selfie camera. I've tried multiple GCam mods, as well as several camera apps from the Gplay store, and they can only see 4MP as the highest resolution.
I'm not sure if it's a 16MP sensor that down-samples to 4MP for better low-light performance, or if it's a 4MP sensor that up-samples to 16MP. Either way, I'm not complaining about the quality of the images. They're quite nice, and take fantastic photos!
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Excellent quality. Portrait mode picture taken by Arnova's Gcam.
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can you share settings you are using ? and which apk ?
kraatus90 said:
can you share settings you are using ? and which apk ?
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GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.3-Front-HDR+
Settings: Nexus 6p, nexus 6p, hdd+ on, face_brackets on
I'm from Brazil and here was noticed that the front camera can't focus objects that are close.
For an example, if you take a selfie, your face won't be focused but only what is behind you.
It is strange that I only see these complains about that here in Brazil.
Does anyone here having the same issue?
jonathangrag said:
I'm from Brazil and here was noticed that the front camera can't focus objects that are close.
For an example, if you take a selfie, your face won't be focused but only what is behind you.
It is strange that I only see these complains about that here in Brazil.
Does anyone here having the same issue?
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Im from india. My issue is everything looks good just before clicking pic. But after taking selfie it looks blurred
helo123 said:
Im from india. My issue is everything looks good just before clicking pic. But after taking selfie it looks blurred
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People here are commenting that the front camera has a fixed focus, so if you are not in the right distance, the picture will be a little blurry.
jonathangrag said:
People here are commenting that the front camera has a fixed focus, so if you are not in the right distance, the picture will be a little blurry.
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Almost every phone has a fixed focus front facing camera. The problem is that, in the X4, the focus distance is way higher than the usual. Half of the Galaxy S7 Flat units has this "problem" aswell, although way worse.
In photos where the subject is a big group of people, this is nice, as most people will be in focus. However, in a closeup selfie you will be very unfocused.
In my experience, the selfie has to be taken with at least 70% of an arm length from you to the phone, so you will be in focus.
tavcsor said:
GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.3-Front-HDR+
Settings: Nexus 6p, nexus 6p, hdd+ on, face_brackets on
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I couldn't find the "face_brackets on" in the debugging and tools so I ignored it.
It still works though.
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Xiaomi Poco F1 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've rated selfie cam average coz it's a mixed bag
In artificial lighting conditions it produces somewhat blurry images. In fact selfies in complete darkness with the screen flash look better than selfies in artificial lights such as tubelights, bulbs etc. Bokeh selfies are better with more details as compared to normal selfies.
I'm talking about selfies with 0 beautification.
I must admit that I'm coming from nexus 5 which has 1.2 mp front camera so maybe I was expecting a bit too much from the 20 mp cam of Poco f1!
Come to think of it, various hardware checking apps show front camera as 5 mp!
May be they are detecting secondary camera at the back as front camera...anyone knows any app that detects all 3 cameras (megapixel and sensor used) correctly??!
It is correct with 5mp. The Cam combines four Pixels top one Superpixel.
I thought it's detecting 5 mp is secondary back camera and mistaking it for front cam
ConradB said:
It is correct with 5mp. The Cam combines four Pixels top one Superpixel.
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So you mean the front camera is actually a 5 mp cam and it should be denoted as such in hardware info apps such as CPU X? This explains why the selfie quality wasn't much much better as I had expected. I'm not that impressed with this 4 pixel combining to form a Superpixel technology....at least in poor lighting conditions.
It would also mean that the secondary 5 mp camera at the back isn't mentioned in the information generated by such apps!
Shouldn't it be mentioned?
I hope I'm clear on this point.
Noticed nowadays new camera unable to capture sharp pic for grp selfie
Grp selfie is where u at front n few members at the back to ensure everyone fit it in the picture
But what happen is only ur pic is sharp while the rest quite blur
This not happened during single lens with fix focus like s7 or 2016 model
How to fix this ?
I must admit that the selfies come out blurry when taken indoors especially when taken with volume rocker. It shakes up due to the press of the button. Do you guys face that?
senthilrameshjv said:
I must admit that the selfies come out blurry when taken indoors especially when taken with volume rocker. It shakes up due to the press of the button. Do you guys face that?
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I assume you might already be aware, they do have the option to use the fingerprint scanner as shutter.
Camera - Settings , scroll down and find it under Additional settings
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I assume you might already be aware, they do have the option to use the fingerprint scanner as shutter.
Camera - Settings , scroll down and find it under Additional settings
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Yes indeed. But just verifying if it's only my phone gets blurry due to such small shakes.
senthilrameshjv said:
Yes indeed. But just verifying if it's only my phone gets blurry due to such small shakes.
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It's the same with me also, even on the rear camera most of the pictures taken on artificial lighting conditions are blurry because of that shaking.
The correct name for this thread is "Blurry camera" Quality
Even with the tripod its taking blurry shot - Cool is it ?
Need a Fix for this soon
The youtube reviews were good regarding the front camera & even the photos were good. Were the review units different or the camera hardware in the 8gb+256gb?
am i just speculating? :crying:
nC3rtaintiy said:
The youtube reviews were good regarding the front camera & even the photos were good. Were the review units different or the camera hardware in the 8gb+256gb?
am i just speculating? :crying:
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Mine is 128gb 6Gb variant bought during 1st flash sale
Same camera blurry image issue
zaro143 said:
Mine is 128gb 6Gb variant bought during 1st flash sale
Same camera blurry image issue
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its all units
all get blurry with even the slightest nudge
I see the phone uses a 20MP sensor from Samsung.
This not a real 20MP camera...I mean, it can't be! Or it's very, VERY bad, even in natural light conditions.
The quality of selfies is way inferior to the 12MP sensor of the back camera.
The amount of details captured by it makes it look more like a 5-8MP sensor...
CygnusBlack said:
I see the phone uses a 20MP sensor from Samsung.
This not a real 20MP camera...I mean, it can't be! Or it's very, VERY bad, even in natural light conditions.
The quality of selfies is way inferior to the 12MP sensor of the back camera.
The amount of details captured by it makes it look more like a 5-8MP sensor...
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Cause that Samsung lens contain 4 5mp lens
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Cause that Samsung lens contain 4 5mp lens
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Nice travesty
It's pretty good considering Huawei and Samsung selfie are overfiltered and poor quality.
This one can see your pores and pixel bins to prevent noise.
Hi look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssw9H08ddlw
You guys are completely crazy or have fault devices. The frontal camera is absolutely amazing. My girlfriend have a XS and its there's no comparison, F1 is much better in every way. You just need to turn off Beautiful Mode and increase sharpness on Options to make things more clear. It's one of the best selfie cameras that I ever see in my life. Get out of here you guys.
But there's a issue that Xiaomi need to fix. The camera dont focus acurately subjects at 1 meter from device. If you use Selfie Group Mode, the problem is gone.
The issue is with focus which is fixed at a distance of around 50cm. Beyond that, objects get blurred.