Selfie quality - Moto X4 Real Life Review

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Moto X4 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Best selfie camera I've ever had. 16mp plus a flash. Also has the selfie enhancement built into the app to use if desired.

Excellent quality. Portrait mode picture taken by Arnova's Gcam.

The front camera is outstanding.. I really love the quality of the pictures taken from the front cam.

Just a side note about the selfie camera:
It is advertised as a 16MP, but the Moto camera defaults to a 4MP (Adaptive Low Light) setting. You can manually choose the 16MP setting, but it's not selected by default. Also, I have yet to see any 3rd party camera use anything higher than 4MP on the selfie camera. I've tried multiple GCam mods, as well as several camera apps from the Gplay store, and they can only see 4MP as the highest resolution.
I'm not sure if it's a 16MP sensor that down-samples to 4MP for better low-light performance, or if it's a 4MP sensor that up-samples to 16MP. Either way, I'm not complaining about the quality of the images. They're quite nice, and take fantastic photos!

tavcsor said:
Excellent quality. Portrait mode picture taken by Arnova's Gcam.
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can you share settings you are using ? and which apk ?

kraatus90 said:
can you share settings you are using ? and which apk ?
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GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.3-Front-HDR+
Settings: Nexus 6p, nexus 6p, hdd+ on, face_brackets on

I'm from Brazil and here was noticed that the front camera can't focus objects that are close.
For an example, if you take a selfie, your face won't be focused but only what is behind you.
It is strange that I only see these complains about that here in Brazil.
Does anyone here having the same issue?

jonathangrag said:
I'm from Brazil and here was noticed that the front camera can't focus objects that are close.
For an example, if you take a selfie, your face won't be focused but only what is behind you.
It is strange that I only see these complains about that here in Brazil.
Does anyone here having the same issue?
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Im from india. My issue is everything looks good just before clicking pic. But after taking selfie it looks blurred

helo123 said:
Im from india. My issue is everything looks good just before clicking pic. But after taking selfie it looks blurred
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People here are commenting that the front camera has a fixed focus, so if you are not in the right distance, the picture will be a little blurry.

jonathangrag said:
People here are commenting that the front camera has a fixed focus, so if you are not in the right distance, the picture will be a little blurry.
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Almost every phone has a fixed focus front facing camera. The problem is that, in the X4, the focus distance is way higher than the usual. Half of the Galaxy S7 Flat units has this "problem" aswell, although way worse.
In photos where the subject is a big group of people, this is nice, as most people will be in focus. However, in a closeup selfie you will be very unfocused.
In my experience, the selfie has to be taken with at least 70% of an arm length from you to the phone, so you will be in focus.

tavcsor said:
GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.3-Front-HDR+
Settings: Nexus 6p, nexus 6p, hdd+ on, face_brackets on
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I couldn't find the "face_brackets on" in the debugging and tools so I ignored it.
It still works though.

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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy A8 (2018) come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Rear Camera
Well for a upper middrange phone not so good. I mean yes you can caught some good images but without OIS you can notice some blur sometimes. Also before using it for first time I recommend to turn off hdr auto and full screen camera because it can effect the image quality.
Front Camera
I must admit that front one is much much better than rear. For group photos or alone you can really capture a great photo. Also selfies sometimes can be too detailed, and that only thing that i don't like. 16 mp plus 8 mp dual one makes a great combination.
Rear camera is bad, nailing focus even in a decently lighted environment is a hit and miss. Don't even dare to expect an S7 quality.
Front camera is one of the best I've seen, specially in video calls.
Rear camera doesn't have portrait mode and pics are not of good quality , Daylight photos are good but not the best ones and low light camera isn't that good as it was shown on the teaser.
front cam is much better than rear cam.
i have been satisfied with the results of the front and rear cam. the front is from another world, but the rear is not the best but of course it is very good as well!!! i have enjoyed it in all conditions.
Please do you have a solution to open the bot for a role in Samsung Galaxy A8 + 2018 sm-a730f.... I don't find the option to open the bot for a role in developer option
By installing the google camera mod the rear camera is just freakin awesome (including portrait mode). The stock camera is awesome only with the front camera.
Rear camera set 10 megapixel 18.5:9 . Very good photos!
atrufinibr said:
By installing the google camera mod the rear camera is just freakin awesome (including portrait mode). The stock camera is awesome only with the front camera.
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Which gcam?
dvx91 said:
Which gcam?
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https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
I'm using:
Mod8.3b_IDan_v3.2.9_Exy.apk
atrufinibr said:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
I'm using:
Mod8.3b_IDan_v3.2.9_Exy.apk
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Thanks
dvx91 said:
Thanks
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Hi! i just installed this version but it crashed and reboot by itself .What happens with G-cam? (That happens on all version i install)
dvx91 said:
Thanks
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taskor74 said:
Hi! i just installed this version but it crashed and reboot by itself .What happens with G-cam? (That happens on all version i install)
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For me it crashes also on taking a picture.
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Disable hdr+ on front camera
Pro mode is very limited compared to the Galaxy S7/S8 stock camera app, we can't control exposure time. Is there a way to enable that feature? I think this phone has all what it takes to do the same.
What about picture resolution? I have a 3456x2592 vs 4608x3456 on stock camera. How can I fix it?
the first one is the A8
the next one is the s7 active... I may have fuged the lighting settings on that shot.
my s7active camera is starting to crap out... I think some moisture got in the camera cause I have to wipe it a lot...
honestly.. I've noticed great improvements on the a8... still alittle jumpy taking photos
Thank your review Đánh giá Samsung Galaxy A8 2018: Đến gần phân khúc cao cấp

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Not so bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk7vd_yv17A
More videos in process coming soon
I'm finding that most of the pictures I'm taking of people seem to be softened by the software. The softening of the pictures actually make them look pretty bad. Anyone else having this issue? Just using default settings when taking the pictures
skw5115 said:
I'm finding that most of the pictures I'm taking of people seem to be softened by the software. The softening of the pictures actually make them look pretty bad. Anyone else having this issue? Just using default settings when taking the pictures
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I don't have that problem but I deactivated the AI feature because it's not very usefull
Flatric said:
I don't have that problem but I deactivated the AI feature because it's not very usefull
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Deactivating the AI feature seems to have made it better
Pretty happy with color range and image sharpness
Low-light obviously lacking a bit, but over all I think the camera is fine.
https://imgur.com/a/m8Kukwm
No raw support?
I like the camera especially bokeh effect is very good.
Totally happy with the camera...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vRwj5MiUMSMf9NM49
Here's some photos taken on a Mi MIx 2s
noahthedominator said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vRwj5MiUMSMf9NM49
Here's some photos taken on a Mi MIx 2s
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Wow nice shots, im really glad that i bought this phone
my photos...
https://1drv.ms/f/s!ApGcvIa3rva_pNR64hm7SVp1sZoJOQ
jirka607 said:
Wow nice shots, im really glad that i bought this phone
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Thanks! I have a lot more photos to shoot. I will be adding to that album with many more pictures this weekend.
Has miui10 added any camera changes for the Mi Mix 2s?
Hi guys, curious, has anyone experienced choppiness when viewing through the camera? and the potrait mode is terrible contrary to much of the rave reviews.. the background blur is not uniform most of the time.. any advice or tips?
androFRUST said:
Hi guys, curious, has anyone experienced choppiness when viewing through the camera? and the potrait mode is terrible contrary to much of the rave reviews.. the background blur is not uniform most of the time.. any advice or tips?
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Agree, portrait mode is terrible, also all the photos add some kind of softening filter. Only good thing is that you can edit the center of the photo so you can move the bokeh effect.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qGOjwqFHujdcRiJDo75J7cy5Ezaw9GYF/view?usp=drivesdk[/url] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pYueJj1z2iiQMgxW3_rTbwoGNj5oUWmk/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z0HN1UU8pDx1zcS9uAy4Rtq75-nRMnOn/view?usp=drivesdk The camera is very good,not the best but quite close. For the price(460€) is just excellent
Well I use open camera mostly due to options. At low light I've found that the image quality is GREAT if you use 4MP(16:9) checked with 9MP and 12MP(always at 16:9 ratio).
In 4MP at very low light I was super impressed(always 100% jpeg quality in the open camera app). Test it yourself, it worth your time. Just make sure you have a steady surface
EDIT: uploading pictures 12MP, 9MP, 4MP
Image difference 2-3 seconds apart - 9:00pm (4MP>12MP>9MP). Don't know why 4MP is so much better(less MP is worse than 12MP)
evronetwork said:
Well I use open camera mostly due to options. At low light I've found that the image quality is GREAT if you use 4MP(16:9) checked with 9MP and 12MP(always at 16:9 ratio).
In 4MP at very low light I was super impressed(always 100% jpeg quality in the open camera app). Test it yourself, it worth your time. Just make sure you have a steady surface
EDIT: uploading pictures 12MP, 9MP, 4MP
Image difference 2-3 seconds apart - 9:00pm (4MP>12MP>9MP). Don't know why 4MP is so much better(less MP is worse than 12MP)
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What do you give up by using open camera (does tele and wide angle switch work and how is 4K video etc) so far I like the manual mode of the stock miui camera app but also like the idea of using a standard app off the play store
attackthedefault said:
What do you give up by using open camera (does tele and wide angle switch work and how is 4K video etc) so far I like the manual mode of the stock miui camera app but also like the idea of using a standard app off the play store
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Well if you want optical zoom you still need to use the stock camera, 4K rec? you can but I pref 1080p also I do like to adjust the bitrate of the video and audio and open camera does have that. I use to use this app to my 1+1 too
I like to customize everything and miui camera well ..2-3 settings at best
P.S. Open camera also doesn't have panorama but talking to the dev and said he's planning to include a panorama soon - Did you check the low light quality in 4MP? impressive(compered to higher res)
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Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Xiaomi Poco F1 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've rated selfie cam average coz it's a mixed bag
In artificial lighting conditions it produces somewhat blurry images. In fact selfies in complete darkness with the screen flash look better than selfies in artificial lights such as tubelights, bulbs etc. Bokeh selfies are better with more details as compared to normal selfies.
I'm talking about selfies with 0 beautification.
I must admit that I'm coming from nexus 5 which has 1.2 mp front camera so maybe I was expecting a bit too much from the 20 mp cam of Poco f1!
Come to think of it, various hardware checking apps show front camera as 5 mp!
May be they are detecting secondary camera at the back as front camera...anyone knows any app that detects all 3 cameras (megapixel and sensor used) correctly??!
It is correct with 5mp. The Cam combines four Pixels top one Superpixel.
I thought it's detecting 5 mp is secondary back camera and mistaking it for front cam
ConradB said:
It is correct with 5mp. The Cam combines four Pixels top one Superpixel.
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So you mean the front camera is actually a 5 mp cam and it should be denoted as such in hardware info apps such as CPU X? This explains why the selfie quality wasn't much much better as I had expected. I'm not that impressed with this 4 pixel combining to form a Superpixel technology....at least in poor lighting conditions.
It would also mean that the secondary 5 mp camera at the back isn't mentioned in the information generated by such apps!
Shouldn't it be mentioned?
I hope I'm clear on this point.
Noticed nowadays new camera unable to capture sharp pic for grp selfie
Grp selfie is where u at front n few members at the back to ensure everyone fit it in the picture
But what happen is only ur pic is sharp while the rest quite blur
This not happened during single lens with fix focus like s7 or 2016 model
How to fix this ?
I must admit that the selfies come out blurry when taken indoors especially when taken with volume rocker. It shakes up due to the press of the button. Do you guys face that?
senthilrameshjv said:
I must admit that the selfies come out blurry when taken indoors especially when taken with volume rocker. It shakes up due to the press of the button. Do you guys face that?
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I assume you might already be aware, they do have the option to use the fingerprint scanner as shutter.
Camera - Settings , scroll down and find it under Additional settings
watsinaname said:
I assume you might already be aware, they do have the option to use the fingerprint scanner as shutter.
Camera - Settings , scroll down and find it under Additional settings
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Yes indeed. But just verifying if it's only my phone gets blurry due to such small shakes.
senthilrameshjv said:
Yes indeed. But just verifying if it's only my phone gets blurry due to such small shakes.
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It's the same with me also, even on the rear camera most of the pictures taken on artificial lighting conditions are blurry because of that shaking.
The correct name for this thread is "Blurry camera" Quality
Even with the tripod its taking blurry shot - Cool is it ?
Need a Fix for this soon
The youtube reviews were good regarding the front camera & even the photos were good. Were the review units different or the camera hardware in the 8gb+256gb?
am i just speculating? :crying:
nC3rtaintiy said:
The youtube reviews were good regarding the front camera & even the photos were good. Were the review units different or the camera hardware in the 8gb+256gb?
am i just speculating? :crying:
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Mine is 128gb 6Gb variant bought during 1st flash sale
Same camera blurry image issue
zaro143 said:
Mine is 128gb 6Gb variant bought during 1st flash sale
Same camera blurry image issue
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its all units
all get blurry with even the slightest nudge
I see the phone uses a 20MP sensor from Samsung.
This not a real 20MP camera...I mean, it can't be! Or it's very, VERY bad, even in natural light conditions.
The quality of selfies is way inferior to the 12MP sensor of the back camera.
The amount of details captured by it makes it look more like a 5-8MP sensor...
CygnusBlack said:
I see the phone uses a 20MP sensor from Samsung.
This not a real 20MP camera...I mean, it can't be! Or it's very, VERY bad, even in natural light conditions.
The quality of selfies is way inferior to the 12MP sensor of the back camera.
The amount of details captured by it makes it look more like a 5-8MP sensor...
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Cause that Samsung lens contain 4 5mp lens
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Cause that Samsung lens contain 4 5mp lens
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Nice travesty
It's pretty good considering Huawei and Samsung selfie are overfiltered and poor quality.
This one can see your pores and pixel bins to prevent noise.
Hi look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssw9H08ddlw
You guys are completely crazy or have fault devices. The frontal camera is absolutely amazing. My girlfriend have a XS and its there's no comparison, F1 is much better in every way. You just need to turn off Beautiful Mode and increase sharpness on Options to make things more clear. It's one of the best selfie cameras that I ever see in my life. Get out of here you guys.
But there's a issue that Xiaomi need to fix. The camera dont focus acurately subjects at 1 meter from device. If you use Selfie Group Mode, the problem is gone.
The issue is with focus which is fixed at a distance of around 50cm. Beyond that, objects get blurred.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Apparently there will be an update to camera, both in terms of performance and functionality, it should be available to download at 28th May, which should be just before it gets released in most places.
https://swedroid.se/forum/threads/snabba-fragor-snabba-svar-zenfone-6.165775/page-15#post-2430313
At least according to Asus Sweden
According to pocket-link, this phone can shoot multiple frame resulting in 109 megapixel photos. I haven't read from other sites before.
https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/reviews/asus/147785-asus-zenfone-6-review-flip-camera
Does the Phone support raw shooting? If so from the 48MP camera and/or the 13PM wide?
All of this but no mention of the zoom capabilities.
Obviously optical zoom would have been mentioned, but I'm wondering how the digital zoom is before the image starts breaking up.
EVOLVIST said:
All of this but no mention of the zoom capabilities.
Obviously optical zoom would have been mentioned, but I'm wondering how the digital zoom is before the image starts breaking up.
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There is a good comparison here including zoom
Really holds up well
Im holding off at present, some of the pics look way to soft, and way to much colour saturation.
Don't expect huge improvements from what they've delivered in the past. They do have some new tech to play with to improve night shots thanks to the 48MP sensor (although missing OIS). And some will prefer the superior front cam capabilities for sure.
New update, also enables EIS on 4k 60 fps filming, from this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wvt_XhRbrU
colours are still way off :/
DxOMark Asus ZenFone 6 front camera review:
https://www.dxomark.com/asus-zenfone-6-front-camera-review/
pato said:
DxOMark Asus ZenFone 6 front camera review:
https://www.dxomark.com/asus-zenfone-6-front-camera-review/
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The best front cam that they've tested, not surprisingly. Not an astounding result considering it's using its rear camera. Hopefully software changes and/or Gcam can help improve it further.
Curious to see how it scores in the Rear cam test.
TheCookieButter said:
The best front cam that they've tested, not surprisingly. Not an astounding result considering it's using its rear camera. Hopefully software changes and/or Gcam can help improve it further.
Curious to see how it scores in the Rear cam test.
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Right. Like, why test it as just a selfie camera?
subhani said:
Right. Like, why test it as just a selfie camera?
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DXoMark does smartphones as 'selfie' (front) and 'mobile' (rear) with separate reviews. I imagine the criteria is different so they can't use one score for both still. If you look at any rear cam review the photos are a mix of people and objects, while the front cam reviews are practically entirely people based (hence 'selfie' score). It won't necessarily get the same score as a rear cam as it does a selfie cam since there is different criteria to keep even testing.
subhani said:
Right. Like, why test it as just a selfie camera?
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Dxomark only produces selfie score just because Asus want to show off their top score on-stage at Computex 2019
My guess is the rear camera software is still got lots more room for improvements, XDA posted today that there are major firmware upgrades for camera quality improvements
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-update-super-night-mode-hdr/
Image quality, colors and skintone looks good to my eyes in this sample https://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4543/5333582/1/rv/asus-zenfone-6-zs630kl-6gb_128gb-review/ and even in DXOmark selfie review, the skin tone and colors are very similar to Pixel 3 which is very good for Asus smartphone
I can't wait for this phone to launch in my country
How about super night shot option. Does it work well compare to Huawei P30. Thanks.
smohanv said:
How about super night shot option. Does it work well compare to Huawei P30. Thanks.
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Day light photo quality is comparable to Pixel 3, S10+, iPhone XS, P30 Pro
but the night mode on P30 Pro beats anything in the market coz physics...not even samsung google apple can compete with the better and larger main sensor in P30 Pro...u may want to install gcam for night sight to get better night photo on zenfone 6
Onepunchbro said:
Day light photo quality is comparable to Pixel 3, S10+, iPhone XS, P30 Pro
but the night mode on P30 Pro beats anything in the market coz physics...not even samsung google apple can compete with the better and larger main sensor in P30 Pro...u may want to install gcam for night sight to get better night photo on zenfone 6
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Thanks. I heard that ASUS has released a firmware update which addresses super night mode issue.
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-update-super-night-mode-hdr/
Curious on seeing a comparison regarding camera quality (day/night) between the P30 non-Pro and the ZenFone 6 (with the new firmware) and see which one comes first.
dxomark . com / asus-zenfone-6-front-camera-review

Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the OPPO Find X2 Pro performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Same selfie cam as OP8pro, nonetheless the selfies on the oneplus are superior in exposure, detail, focusing
Sirflosse said:
Same selfie cam as OP8pro, nonetheless the selfies on the oneplus are superior in exposure, detail, focusing
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Oneplus 8 Pro has a different selfie camera sensor.
The selfie on Find X2 Pro lacks any kind of stabilization, OP has it stabilized (and well).
Killer007TV said:
Oneplus 8 Pro has a different selfie camera sensor.
The selfie on Find X2 Pro lacks any kind of stabilization, OP has it stabilized (and well).
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Oh, thank you for clarifying this, it definitely explains the big difference.
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Oh, thank you for clarifying this, it definitely explains the big difference.
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No problem Sir.
Find X2 Pro's selfie photos are decent, I'd say average. HDR is present and works well, although in front portrait mode it might overbrighten the image.
Oneplus 8 Pro has it stabilized which makes for much better vlogging experience. On the other hand, Oppo has a night mode for the front camera which drastically improves low light performance.
Personally I'm glad Oppo scrimped on the front camera quality as I almost never use it and a better camera would only increase the price.
It gets a pass. Certainly not as good as the pixel or iPhone. Seems to beautify too much.
I'd agree, the weakest part of the phone - HDR not that good, photos come out soft and stabilization isn't great. Not as good as the OnePlus 8 pro although that's not perfect either, very sharp but makes everyone look red and too warm.
Selfie camera is very poor comparing to other mobiles in the same price range .
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Selfie camera is very poor comparing to other mobiles in the same price range .
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Coming from iPhone 11 Pro, i totally agree with you. The selfie mode is way over exposed most of the time and in case you have light coming right in the camera the picture is very bad. The iPhone does it way better.
In definition, when conditions are good (no direct light source in the lens) this sensor is way better than the iPhone's one.
Is selfie camera there better that in the latest iPhone?
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Is selfie camera there better that in the latest iPhone?
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Yes, the iPhone 12 selfie camera is definitely better than the Find X2 Pro.

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