Lollipop Update Discussion - X 2014 General

So i see google is updating the 5.0 images this friday, whats the ballpark guess as to when our Moto's see the OTA update? Im on Verizon and I know Verizon takes their sweet time with getting updates out to their phones but this should be a pretty quick update seeing we are pretty much stock...no?

sthpaw01 said:
So i see google is updating the 5.0 images this friday, whats the ballpark guess as to when our Moto's see the OTA update? Im on Verizon and I know Verizon takes their sweet time with getting updates out to their phones but this should be a pretty quick update seeing we are pretty much stock...no?
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They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus devices, so it's likely to be 2-4 weeks before the Pure Edition alone see's an update. Those updates then have to make it through your carrier (and you have the worst) before it makes it to your phone. 1 to 2 months is probably optimistic.

sthpaw01 said:
So i see google is updating the 5.0 images this friday, whats the ballpark guess as to when our Moto's see the OTA update? Im on Verizon and I know Verizon takes their sweet time with getting updates out to their phones but this should be a pretty quick update seeing we are pretty much stock...no?
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Verizon... I'm guessing February. Timeline for Motorola on Verizon should be about the same as for Samsung on any other carrier.

crawlgsx said:
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus devices, so it's likely to be 2-4 weeks before the Pure Edition alone see's an update. Those updates then have to make it through your carrier (and you have the worst) before it makes it to your phone. 1 to 2 months is probably optimistic.
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.....Verizon. Hopefully we will get unlocked bootloader before February. Knowing Lollipop is out there I the fact that Verizon has the power to give it to me is going to drive me crazy. I lived with an unlocked, rooted, custom ROM phone for way too long.

I wouldn't count on an unlocked bootloader from Verizon ever. I switched to AT&T and a Pure Edition because of Verizon's iron fist policies.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-wont-be-getting-developer-edition-moto-x-2014

Verizon 2013 Moto X release schedule
I dont have time to find the exact dates for the nexus 5, but these are either the dates the release was announced or started OTA for the nexus 5 vs when verizon updated for the 2013 moto x
version | nexus 5 | vzw moto x | days
4.4 | Oct 31 | Nov 19 | 19 days
4.4.2 | Dec 10 | Feb 21 | 73 days
4.4.4 | Jun 19 | Jul 31 | 42 days

Restola said:
Verizon 2013 Moto X release schedule
I dont have time to find the exact dates for the nexus 5, but these are either the dates the release was announced or started OTA for the nexus 5 vs when verizon updated for the 2013 moto x
version | nexus 5 | vzw moto x | days
4.4 | Oct 31 | Nov 19 | 19 days
4.4.2 | Dec 10 | Feb 21 | 73 days
4.4.4 | Jun 19 | Jul 31 | 42 days
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So the first update was a timely update. Maybe we can expect the update to 5.0 to be quick and then subsequent updates take a bit longer.

Id be shocked if the pure edition got it in less than a month. Much longer for verizon as always.

darkrom said:
Id be shocked if the pure edition got it in less than a month. Much longer for verizon as always.
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The developer edition moto x received android 4.4 before it even reached some nexus devices last year. Motorola doesn't have to do much to tweak around the software, it is just the carriers that take forever to approve of the update. I assume Motorola pretty much has a final build of 5.0 ready to go already, they are just waiting on the green light from google. Samsung has already leaked their 5.0 test build online showing off the "new" features it has to offer. Samsung's build looks absolutely horrible, still bogged down by the useless bloat.

If I remember correctly, wasn't the Verizon Moto X 203 the first to get KK other than the Nexus line?

darkrom said:
Id be shocked if the pure edition got it in less than a month. Much longer for verizon as always.
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So you will be!!!
I don't remember where so unfortunately I'm unable to provide you a source link but they have already provided an update last year to moto x first gen after the nexus 5 receive it, but before nexus 4.
They told us they want to do the same this year, which means after nexus 6, but before nexus 5.

destes37 said:
If I remember correctly, wasn't the Verizon Moto X 203 the first to get KK other than the Nexus line?
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It was but that is a rare instance due to the fact that the Nexus had some encryption issue that they had to fix. It was really down to Motorola to make that happen, not Verizon. In general, Nexus get it first.
For a more correct overview of Verizon. Android 4.2 was released for the GSM Galaxy Nexus on Nov 13th 2012, the Verizon Galaxy Nexus got it 5 months later in March 19th, 2013.

The Verizon 2013 moto x was the first non nexus device to receive kit kat. You guys are being a little harsh on Verizon here. I know their track record is rather poor when it comes to getting updates to phones, but the 2013 moto x was by far the fastest updated phone on Verizon, even faster than the galaxy nexus.
Personally I have high hopes that we will see lollipop in the third or fourth week of November.
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sthpaw01 said:
So i see google is updating the 5.0 images this friday, whats the ballpark guess as to when our Moto's see the OTA update? Im on Verizon and I know Verizon takes their sweet time with getting updates out to their phones but this should be a pretty quick update seeing we are pretty much stock...no?
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Wait, what's coming on Friday? You mean the latest dev edition, or the real deal IMGs?

Google has said they were updating the images for 5.0 on Friday.

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Google has said they were updating the images for 5.0 on Friday.
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No they stated there would be new preview images and SDK for the Nexus devices. Not the official OTA.

my only concern is vzw losing interest on the X in favor of the turbo. they barely had anything for the X before and even on release day, they have an entire webpage countdown for the turbo.

akellar said:
No they stated there would be new preview images and SDK for the Nexus devices. Not the official OTA.
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OK thanks, I wasn't exactly sure how to take the message.

svtfmook said:
my only concern is vzw losing interest on the X in favor of the turbo. they barely had anything for the X before and even on release day, they have an entire webpage countdown for the turbo.
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Not a surprise. Turbo is theirs - they own the brand and control the device much more closely than the X. That, and the fact that the Turbo hardware is what the X should have had.

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XT925 re Kit kat

Have any XT925 owners received ota update to kitkat.
If not any rumours as to when to expect
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no ETA...
I've been looking at Punit Soni's Google + account, there is no ETA.
He told me that we have to wait for qualcomm to update the binaries and drivers for the Soc/radios, and then they will update, first unlocked/dev editions, then branded ones.
there is no timeframe, but samsung will update the sgs3 (the US version has the same chipset) in late Q1
http://www.android.gs/samsung-galax...e-to-arrive-by-the-end-of-march-says-insider/
as far as ive seen, they will bring kitkat to last years phones, then 2012 phones.
so IMO, i think it will be april/may if you have a phone on contract...
alas, i think its the last update it will receive.
i asked him if they would dump the kernel like they did on the moto x and moto g and they will do so for the xt926 developer edition.
so once KK rolls out, expect better custom ROMs...
Read a nasty rumor that the '13 models (Ultra, Maxx, Mini) were receiving the OTA and many phones were bricking. Moto stopped the OTAs on those phones to figure out what was wrong, so we might have slightly longer to wait then originally planned...

Where in the world is the Verizon 5.1.1 update?

Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
rushless said:
Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
droidguy22 said:
Any other carrier Note 4 or international model got 5.1.1?
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Yes. Sprint got it a month ago.
I was thinking that it was taking abnormally long too, but since AT&T and T-Mo haven't gotten it yet, it makes me wonder. Especially since part of T Mobile's Note 4s have it and the others don't. (The ones with a different model number have them, but the original model numbers don't.)
Perhaps they are fine tuning stuff for the Qualcomm models and used Sprint as a guinea pig since Sprint barely has any subscribers anymore, it probably makes a great lab rat!
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Seriously, why so long? This seems absurd even for Verizon.
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
KennyG123 said:
It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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I don't think so! I believe that we won't get 6.0 update in 2015. It's most likely that US carriers (VZW, ATT, TMB, and USC) will follow the international variants and push 5.1.1 update in 2015 (probably, it's due in October) and wait too long for the next big thing (M) sometime in 2016, after releasing it for the 2015 flagships (S6 and its family) in the next few months. However, I hope you're right.
Verizon always seems to be last and not fair to the older phones in the cue. To me we paid out our cash way before the S6 owners , no offense. I think the S4 will be the cut off so, why not be fair and start from that. Verizon, at least on the phone and in the stores, always bring up loyalty, show it!
But I wonder if it has anything to do that Verizon is a CDMA system
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It is quite possible they are just going straight to Marshmellow. T-Mobile announced 6.0 update soon, perhaps AT&T and Verizon are doing the same.
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interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
oneandroidnut said:
interesting. surprised we havent seen any leaks of a note 5 or s6 on 6.0
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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Leaks seem to be a thing of the past...rarely see them anymore. The 2 new nexus devices won't ship for another 3-4 weeks and that is more or less the official unveiling of 6.0, even though other Nexus devices are getting updates starting now. Then about a month after that you will see other devices getting updated. Samsung has to incorporate TW, HTC has to incorporate Sense 7, LG - LG Home, so those will take a little longer.
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True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
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True. It will be interesting to see how they integrate tw to 6.0
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This is Verizon. We'll get 6.0 next year if we're lucky.
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I read some carriers in Canada are receiving 5.1.1 on Note 4 via OTA.
AT&T got it today. I'm guessing T-Mobile will be next and We'll get it in January.

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back

Looks like Motorola DID write the updates, but it's AT&T and VZW holding them back
http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder...sort_order=desc&keywords=XT1096,XT1097,XT1095
The updates went to the WiFi Alliance for certification. Maybe AT&T and VZW will stop dragging their feet and let us have it.
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
hassanabid94 said:
Why would they do that ughh makes me so angry
Just bought the phone a month ago purely because i was hoping it would get marshmallow
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So they can sell you a new phone of course same reason batteries are no longer user replaceable. Carrier greed.
I'm guessing this is still part of the story. Pure speculation, but perhaps Moto offered the stock updates, the carriers said OK, now go add all this bloat and test that everything still works, and Moto said we don't have the resources to test your bloat... I have no idea, but I'm guessing there is more to it that just what we know.
I think Motorola hands the software over to the carriers and they add and test it. I'm thinking that there is something to an agreement to sell a particular phone that guarantees a certain number of updates or something like that and that agreement is up for the 2014 Moto X with the carriers.
So in that case Motorola can make the update but the carriers aren't obligated to release it.
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If this is the case, why hasn't the Pure Edition/XT1095 gotten the update? It seems odd to me that they would willingly hold up an update for the XT1095 so that they could release it at the same time as the carrier versions of the phone... My guess (just a guess) is that they might still be working on stability with some of the Moto features when run on Marshmallow.
What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
Note10.1Dude said:
What we don't know is if Motorola is testing an update now. The testing for 5.1 took months, with multiple builds pushed out the test group from what I understand.
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Maybe it's just me (I very well could be hallucinating) but I've always noticed that before I get an update my battery life gets a tad wonky. It's gotten to the point where if I go a few days where my battery dies more quickly than usual I'm like "Wait, are they going to push an update, soon?"
Again, I could be hallucinating. :silly:
This changes everything and makes it a totally avoidable PR disaster. Everyone was ready to lynch Motorola for not updating the carrier versions. The fact that Moto didn't speak out about the carriers blocking it is fascinating and I can't figure out why they'd do it., since they don't really need carriers anymore as they sell everything unlocked, unless maybe they still put them in retail locations or if they have enterprise deals for backend systems. Either way if this is true, Motorola is jumping on a grenade to save someone else.
We'll see how the rest of the life cycle of these phones goes, but maybe I can buy another Moto after all. If they keep punctual updates coming, maybe a black friday 2016 X is in my future.
People should stop bashing phone manufactures when it's usually the carriers fault for the lack of updates. This is very typical in the US where AT&T and VZW are the biggest blame since they control the major herds.
Phone manufactures provide the updates, but it's up to carriers (and their carrier branded phones) to decide if they want an older phone to receive an update or just fool mindless sheep and let them them buy a new phone if they want the latest and greatest. Simple as that.
Also.... Welcome to the consumer era! Where anything is old the next day! Why spend precious time on old hardware when they can sell you a new fancy phone for the same price or twice as much?! You know you can't say no to that if you're technologically impaired!
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
JulesJam said:
So for sure the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096 will not get an update to allow for simultaneous voice and data? I really only care about VoLTE. Is that never coming to the Verizon Moto X 2014?
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No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
AGISCI said:
No, it's never coming. The verizon model will not receive anymore updates.
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Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
JulesJam said:
The phone has such a nice form factor, nicer than the Moto X PE. It's a shame it has been EOL'ed w/o VoLTE. Sigh. I wonder if it was Verizon or Lenovo who cut off the Moto X 14 from VoLTE update?
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It was verizon. All the Moto X 2014 models will get one last update to 6.0, except for the verizon and at&t models which will stay on 5.1 which it has now.
Slipfish said:
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source on this I can direct my anger towards?
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http://motorola-blog.blogspot.cl/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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I have a MM ROM on my tablet and I really don't see what the fuss is about. The Moto X 2014 is still a great phone. MM doesn't bring anything really new to the table. I'd much rather have root than an OTA.
For me I was hoping that the MM update would finally fix the bluetooth/wifi issues that have plagued this phone since I got it.
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
OrenGazala said:
Well, now I'm sure that we won't get the 6.0 update.
Motorola has updated the list of devices to receive Marshmallow on its site and we are not there, again.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/12/09/motorola-says-the-moto-e-2015-is-getting-marshmallow-after-all-just-not-in-the-usa/
In the link you can see more details.
We really need root method...
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The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
titotito1983 said:
The article says that 4 new models are "ADDED". The Moto x 2014 Pure (aka XT1095) was in the original list given by them.
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I already know that...
This thread is about xt1096 verizon and xt1097 at&t models and they are not in the list.

Moto X Pure Edition (XT1575) and Android 6.0.1.......

Does anyone have any idea as to when the XT1575 version of the Moto X Pure Edition will receive Android 6.0.1? I know the XT1572 version has received it, how much of a difference can there really be between those to.
Not much as many of us are running it now. You know as much as anyone here when it will be released.
I agree that it is irritating as it is almost exactly identical. Especially considering that there is no carrier control involved... Not directly that we can see anyway. With so many US phones being carrier controlled though, I imagine the focus is put into international models first. Hoping that North American carriers will start losing their grip on locked out devices.
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Not all 1572s have had the update. I'm in the UK with a ret (retail - no carrier) model and still no update :crying: Feeling quite let down.
My crystal ball is telling me that we're getting 6.0.1 next week.
gamer765 said:
My crystal ball is telling me that we're getting 6.0.1 next week.
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Hey that's great. I have several other question for you while you have the crystal ball out.
Seriously though, pretty frustrating that Motorola/Lenovo is taking so long to update their last "flagship" device. I realize they are working on their new 2016 models, but come on, if Samsung is beating them at updates, that is pretty sad.
The price has dropped to $349 on the Motorola website for the 32GB model..
Just thought I would leave this here, as one of the selling "features" of the Moto X Pure Edition direct from the website:
Pure Androidâ„¢ experience and helpful Moto Enhancements
Boost performance, receive upgrades faster, and teach your phone how to work best for you.
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upgrade (N?) for Moto 4G Plus

Call me itchy (?) But Just got my G4Plus, with android 6.0.1
I am going to need to root (ugh), because of the grandfathered (AT&T) tethering provision.
SO: does anyone have any ideas when the new 7.0/(formerly called N) will be out (and available on the our motoG4 Plus?)
thanks in advance.
When they decide to release maybe December january
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When they decide to release maybe December january
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Gee, and I thought that Google was announcing n/7.0 sometime this month. I guess november-January would be a more reasonable timeframe.
guess I gotta go root this 6.01 now...
Thanks
N will release by months end "rumor" or sept-oct as usual. I know the lg v20 will be the first device with N at launch in sept. Id say we will get it by xmas.
Yeah it will be at least December if history is any sign
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