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is there news about the bootloader lock?

Does anyone can verify if there is bootloader lock on USA/CAN version of Galaxy Note 3?
We all know that the ATT&VZW version of the galaxy S4 has bootloader lock and look like there is no perfect unlock solution yet...
so how about the Note3? Will it come with LOCKED BOOTLOADER on ATT & VZW again?
or its just UNLOCKED?
hope if someone could verify this

I'm quite sure it's locked because of the knox security, newer fw on the s4 got there bootloader locked up
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The latest update on the canadian s4 didnt lock the bootloader so im really hoping the can cersion of the N3 is also unlocked. This could be a good option for at&t users as long as we can get the device sim unlocked sooner rather than later
Time will tell.
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T then a locked bootloader is GUARANTEED. They both have stated as much on all phones and they are not changing their position on it. All we can hope for is a method that allows us to unlock it and not have to use SS to get around it.

sewe said:
I'm quite sure it's locked because of the knox security, newer fw on the s4 got there bootloader locked up
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Knox security has NOTHING to do with the bootloader. The bootloader is lower level than Knox. The bootloader on the S4 remains publicly locked after the OTAs, but that doesn't mean it isn't privately unlocked or that it's not able to be cracked. It's just the the public bounty of $5000 is a fraction of what the exploit is worth on the black market.
"What black market?" you ask. It's not a big secret if it's in Forbes magazine.
So the next time your device's bootloader or root state is not where you'd like it to be, don't assume that the device's manufacturer or the carrier made things too difficult, throw your hands up, and curse the xda developers for not having a solution. Instead, go to the bounty thread and pledge something worth their while. Can you really blame them for not caring about a $10 pledge when it takes them many hours over several days to get the exploit? Meanwhile, the $10 donation would give the person two years+ worth of benefit. What would you do if you were them?

I work at a phone repair shop and bootloader of the S4 is not a problem. I flashed many S4's. Customers are scared to update their devices so we offer that as a service since were an official service point of samsung.
The new multi tool gives problems but good old odin 1.85 never fails.
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SquirtingCherry said:
I work at a phone repair shop and bootloader of the S4 is not a problem. I flashed many S4's. Customers are scared to update their devices so we offer that as a service since were an official service point of samsung.
The new multi tool gives problems but good old odin 1.85 never fails.
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I was told that write protection enabled is shown in download mode. I wasn't exactly sure if that is for the NAND or the bootloader however.
I haven't seen Samsung lock their nand down like HTC does however.

SquirtingCherry said:
I work at a phone repair shop and bootloader of the S4 is not a problem. I flashed many S4's. Customers are scared to update their devices so we offer that as a service since were an official service point of samsung.
The new multi tool gives problems but good old odin 1.85 never fails.
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Wait, are you saying that you are able to downgrade from latest FW?? For example from XXUDMH8 down to XXUBMEA??
I've tried and it's simply impossible due to irreversible bootloader.. Odin will FAIL on aboot.mbn and if you exclud it, you won't have Sound nor WiFi nor Calls ...
sewe said:
I'm quite sure it's locked because of the knox security, newer fw on the s4 got there bootloader locked up
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Mate, new bootloader for GT-I9505 (S4 int) is NOT locked, it's irreversible and SECURED.. You CAN root your phone or flash Custom Recovery/ROM/Kernel etc but it will trigger KNOX WARRANTY VOID flag and set it to 0x1... What that mean?? No one knows (yet) ... Some says that your WARRANTY is VOID but I don't think so... It should be KNOX Software related ONLY but it's still unknown...
Note 3 will have the same type of Bootloader and KNOX SOFTWARE on-board.... It won't stop you from flashing Custom ROM's but we need to find out if our WARRANTY RIGHTS will be intact or void?? That's my question for now...
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DjeMBeY said:
Wait, are you saying that you are able to downgrade from latest FW?? For example from XXUDMH8 down to XXUBMEA??
I've tried and it's simply impossible due to irreversible bootloader.. Odin will FAIL on aboot.mbn and if you exclud it, you won't have Sound nor WiFi nor Calls ...
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Don't know about downgrading, but my co worker here has an S4 too that i flashed to MIUI v5 (CM base) and no problems whatsoever, i don't think it will give problems if i just flash the newest stock availible if he wants back to official. and warranty void is not really an issue.

SquirtingCherry said:
Don't know about downgrading, but my co worker here has an S4 too that i flashed to MIUI v5 (CM base) and no problems whatsoever, i don't think it will give problems if i just flash the newest stock availible if he wants back to official. and warranty void is not really an issue.
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Flashing ROM's through Custom Recovery is a different story and Bootloader is NOT flashed.. You CAN'T downgrade it at all... (so far) Tested

Tomorrow at work i'm gonna check out our special samsung pc, its got special software on it linked directly to the samsung database. I's not working through odin but a different kind of program that also lets you flash multiple phones at once even if they differ. I'm gonna check out if its possible to flash an older bootloader with that and report back.

docnok63 said:
Knox security has NOTHING to do with the bootloader. The bootloader is lower level than Knox. The bootloader on the S4 remains publicly locked after the OTAs, but that doesn't mean it isn't privately unlocked or that it's not able to be cracked. It's just the the public bounty of $5000 is a fraction of what the exploit is worth on the black market.
"What black market?" you ask. It's not a big secret if it's in Forbes magazine.
So the next time your device's bootloader or root state is not where you'd like it to be, don't assume that the device's manufacturer or the carrier made things too difficult, throw your hands up, and curse the xda developers for not having a solution. Instead, go to the bounty thread and pledge something worth their while. Can you really blame them for not caring about a $10 pledge when it takes them many hours over several days to get the exploit? Meanwhile, the $10 donation would give the person two years+ worth of benefit. What would you do if you were them?
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Well for starters it used to be by the community for the community, and I do understand the money factor behind it. But if that is what its about today we might as well close up the site and call it a day. But it isn't and if I could do it I would gladly do it just for the BRAGGING RIGHTS!
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SquirtingCherry said:
Don't know about downgrading, but my co worker here has an S4 too that i flashed to MIUI v5 (CM base) and no problems whatsoever, i don't think it will give problems if i just flash the newest stock availible if he wants back to official. and warranty void is not really an issue.
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Which carrier and which country. If you have an AT&T or Verizon phone then you are in for some gold and riches. Otherwise you likely have one that is not locked by carrier request.

RaptorMD said:
Well for starters it used to be by the community for the community, and I do understand the money factor behind it. But if that is what its about today we might as well close up the site and call it a day. But it isn't and if I could do it I would gladly do it just for the BRAGGING RIGHTS!
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For a person that has an owl as their avatar, you're not really making a wise decision. Let's weigh this one out:
Stay at home, make my own hours doing something I really love as a livelihood, be able to afford sending my kids to college :good: :highfive:
--OR--
Fight traffic going into work every day, work on their schedule and sometimes holidays, and pray I don't lose my job while my kid takes out tons of student loans. As an added bonus, I get to brag to people I don't know, who I will never meet, about hours of work I did for absolutely free. :crying:

docnok63 said:
For a person that has an owl as their avatar, you're not really making a wise decision. Let's weigh this one out:
Stay at home, make my own hours doing something I really love as a livelihood, be able to afford sending my kids to college :good: :highfive:
--OR--
Fight traffic going into work every day, work on their schedule and sometimes holidays, and pray I don't lose my job while my kid takes out tons of student loans. As an added bonus, I get to brag to people I don't know, who I will never meet, about hours of work I did for absolutely free. :crying:
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I'm sure many very smart people will own a Note 3 and exploit it anyway so they can root their own device for their own benefit. It takes virtually no effort to reveal said exploit so hardly much work for strangers (since the root they did for themselves). Keep in mind that the folks who have been finding exploits for iOS for years have never asked for money (google Dev-Team blog).

weirdingway said:
Keep in mind that the folks who have been finding exploits for iOS for years have never asked for money (google Dev-Team blog).
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Have you ever thought that they might have sold it before they went public so there was no reason to ask?

As far as US models, there is already a Clockwork mod recovery for the 900T (Tmobile) version. This still doesn't mean we can flash custom kernels but it does mean we can flash custom roms with stock kernels hopefully. It does trip the Knox counter which is fine by me. I don't want to use it anyway.

mircury said:
As far as US models, there is already a Clockwork mod recovery for the 900T (Tmobile) version. This still doesn't mean we can flash custom kernels but it does mean we can flash custom roms with stock kernels hopefully. It does trip the Knox counter which is fine by me. I don't want to use it anyway.
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That's not the real issue though, the issue is, once triggered will Samsung refuse to do a warranty repair on your device, if you have to send it back for any reason?
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SquirtingCherry said:
Tomorrow at work i'm gonna check out our special samsung pc, its got special software on it linked directly to the samsung database. I's not working through odin but a different kind of program that also lets you flash multiple phones at once even if they differ. I'm gonna check out if its possible to flash an older bootloader with that and report back.
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So like i promised, i have checked out the special computer with the samsung smartflash tool, the + on this is that you can download the stock roms in multiple files (PDA/MODEM/CSC etc.) but flashing seperate files must be done by odin, the smart tool installs all of em at once. so were till no further on the bootloader backward flashing. I can check if i can put all bootloaders online for development useage.

RavenY2K3 said:
That's not the real issue though, the issue is, once triggered will Samsung refuse to do a warranty repair on your device, if you have to send it back for any reason?
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That doesn't matter to me that much since my Tmobile device is coming unlocked. The warranty is questionable anyway. I'm planning on getting a squaretrade warranty.

mircury said:
That doesn't matter to me that much since my Tmobile device is coming unlocked. The warranty is questionable anyway. I'm planning on getting a squaretrade warranty.
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Well if it's insured and the worse comes to worst. You could always, drop it... accidentally on purpose.... Haha
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[Q] Unable to use Knox Apps after root.

Hello everyone, newbie here.
I rooted my Note 3 a while back and tripped my Knox counter to 0x1. I have a lot of files I had stored in Knox and currently unable to access the Knox app at all.
Is there anyway I could recover or backup these files in a way?
I previously emailed samsung and they responded with a definitive NO.
Please help!

knaider said:
Hello everyone, newbie here.
I rooted my Note 3 a while back and tripped my Knox counter to 0x1. I have a lot of files I had stored in Knox and currently unable to access the Knox app at all.
Is there anyway I could recover or backup these files in a way?
I previously emailed samsung and they responded with a definitive NO.
Please help!
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Knox is disabled when you modify or root your device!
Titanium backup your knox, reset or flash new firmware then root again and restore knox.
Or... Google it for millions of solutions....

knaider said:
Hello everyone, newbie here.
I rooted my Note 3 a while back and tripped my Knox counter to 0x1. I have a lot of files I had stored in Knox and currently unable to access the Knox app at all.
Is there anyway I could recover or backup these files in a way?
I previously emailed samsung and they responded with a definitive NO.
Please help!
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Crap, seriously that is a disaster.
Knox is an encrypted container, everything inside it is encrypted with special private key set up first time you use Knox. The security warranty of Knox is that every attempt to modify/tamper the phone even if they are successful SHOULD NOT be able to read what inside Knox, thus those attempts will result in deletion of such private key and also mark it Knox 0x1.
Private key will be generated new if Knox can be re-establish, for that u need to contact Samsung Center, even with new private key NO ONE will ever be able to recover the old data (thus new key for new data).
The premise is that no one on earth should be able to do recover corrupted Knox otherwise Knox will never get that certificate to be used on Enterprise business in US.
Losing that private key is the same as complete wipe out of your data, in other words it is there in encrypted bits but it is no longer readable by anyone on earth.

f_u_006 said:
Knox is disabled when you modify or root your device!
Titanium backup your knox, reset or flash new firmware then root again and restore knox.
Or... Google it for millions of solutions....
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Are you positive this would work? I have tried to google but haven't found ONE single article about this.

Knox security container is disabled FOREVER once you root your device...
As you can gain root access then you can also, theoretically, gain access to the knox container. You still have Knox floating around like a bad smell telling you that apps are trying to access root directory and stopping this from happening but it is now a useless app...

ultramag69 said:
Knox security container is disabled FOREVER once you root your device...
As you can gain root access then you can also, theoretically, gain access to the knox container. You still have Knox floating around like a bad smell telling you that apps are trying to access root directory and stopping this from happening but it is now a useless app...
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So there's absolutely nothing i can do?

Yep. In other words. Sorry to hear ur experience.
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I'm fairly sure there was a warning about this in the Root threads...
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knaider said:
Hello everyone, newbie here.
I rooted my Note 3 a while back and tripped my Knox counter to 0x1. I have a lot of files I had stored in Knox and currently unable to access the Knox app at all.
Is there anyway I could recover or backup these files in a way?
I previously emailed samsung and they responded with a definitive NO.
Please help!
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ShadowLea said:
I'm fairly sure there was a warning about this in the Root threads...
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Yes. it is stated (assuming OP using CF-autoroot, because he never wrote which method he used to root his device).
From CF-Autoroot OP :
"The KNOX warranty status change is permanent, and a service center may deny warranty based on this flag - even if the other flags are reset correctly. The KNOX flag being tripped may also prevent certain Samsung KNOX features from working (enterprise security features). If this is something you care about, use a root method not based on custom kernels or recoveries, like a modified system partition. These are possible, but I don't personally make them, so look around!"

I have same problem too after root. So if i unroot, can i make Knox working again? I have ~10GB personal data in it. I have to recover them.
There should be a way...
P.S : Knox app still installed. Still has a shortcut on notification bar. When i access it flashes up and returning back. I upgraded from Knox v1 to v2, one or two week ago. Old knox app still exits in app manager and appdrawer. But cant access old one alrady. AppMonster backed up install files. Tried to install again. It was succesful. But still same...
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And containers still in appmanager...

It's about flash counter i guess...
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
There are two possible scenarios:
A new KNOX container can no longer be created on such a device
The data encrypted and stored in an existing KNOX container can no longer be retrieved
Everything else outside the container should work just as before.
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Can i reset that counter? On download mode knox warranty count is 1. If i do that maybe it'll wotk again. I never loose my hope ^_^

mehmetalidemir said:
It's about flash counter i guess...
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
Can i reset that counter? On download mode knox warranty count is 1. If i do that maybe it'll wotk again. I never loose my hope ^_^
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On Snapdragon devices there is no way to reset knox counter, at least yet, but propably will never be. About Exynos I can't say since I don't own any.
When Knox Warranty Void is 0x1, you can't use Knox or recover data thats been there EVER.
Knox works just like it should in this case. You people should read, read, and read much more before you do anything with your devices, at least if you really don't know what you are doing.

First thing I did when I purchased my phone was root and uninstall bloatware, that included Knox.
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maxilick said:
First thing I did when I purchased my phone was root and uninstall bloatware, that included Knox. I'll never have the same problem as the op.
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Spere said:
On Snapdragon devices there is no way to reset knox counter, at least yet, but propably will never be. About Exynos I can't say since I don't own any.
When Knox Warranty Void is 0x1, you can't use Knox or recover data thats been there EVER.
Knox works just like it should in this case. You people should read, read, and read much more before you do anything with your devices, at least if you really don't know what you are doing.
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Thanks... I have Note 3 with Exynos. I should search more than...

maxilick said:
First thing I did when I purchased my phone was root and uninstall bloatware, that included Knox. Proactive approach I say.
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mehmetalidemir said:
Thanks... I have Note 3 with Exynos. I should search more than...
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Since you are running on Exynos, read these two posts if they can help you:
Post 1 | Post 2
I still think that no matter what you do, you can't restore content from "locked" KNOX container.

Spere said:
Since you are running on Exynos, read these two posts if they can help you:
Post 1 | Post 2
I still think that no matter what you do, you can't restore content from "locked" KNOX container.
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It's all about modified system. I thought if i reset that counter without wipe, i can use it again... I did. Resetted counter. But still same. Followed that guide. System now untouched. All Knox data has gone... Nothing to do. I won't use it anymore... Thanks guys.

If you performed a KNOX backup from WITHIN the KNOX container, then you can restore that to another KNOX-compatible phone that DOES NOT have the KNOX counter at 0x1. This is the ONLY way to get KNOX data back.
The filename for a KNOX backup will be called KnoxBackup_KNOX.zip and will be stored on the phone or external storage - do a search for the filename.
That is it...end of story.

Towelroot doesn't work

Just in case anyone was wondering, towelroot v3 doesn't work. Not sure if earlier builds do as I don't have a copy of the older ones.
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aznmode said:
Just in case anyone was wondering, towelroot v3 doesn't work. Not sure if earlier builds do as I don't have a copy of the older ones.
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Thanks aznmode

That's not a big surprise, since firmware was patched back in June or something and even Note 3 with latest firmware can't be rooted with towelroot, unless you downgrade kernel to older version first. Developer supposed to work for Google now, so don't expect updates either.

Why even bother with something that doesn't work? We all know chainfire has a working root

twe90kid said:
Why even bother with something that doesn't work? We all know chainfire has a working root
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Chainfire trips knox and some people may want to keep knox cool for various reasons (like they may need knox for work for example), so it was worth a try, but a very long shot.
Also, did anybody actually tried chainfire method with T-mo ?
Chainfire may have exynos version? I'm not sure and also would that work on locked bootloader, like ATT version is probably getting? I mean we all expect T-mo version to be unlocked, but did anybody actually verified it is, since only insiders may have access to the phone ATM.

pete4k said:
Chainfire trips knox and some people may want to keep knox cool for various reasons (like they may need knox for work for example), so it was worth a try, but a very long shot.
Also, did anybody actually tried chainfire method with T-mo ?
Chainfire may have exynos version? I'm not sure and also would that work on locked bootloader, like ATT version is probably getting? I mean we all expect T-mo version to be unlocked, but did anybody actually verified it is, since only insiders may have access to the phone ATM.
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This!
Also I just read in the root thread that chainfire works on Tmobile now. But as usual will trip Knox. To some it may not be a big deal but I like to resell my phone and not having Knox tripped will give it a better resell value.
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aznmode said:
This!
Also I just read in the root thread that chainfire works on Tmobile now. But as usual will trip Knox. To some it may not be a big deal but I like to resell my phone and not having Knox tripped will give it a better resell value.
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In what way does it give it a better resell value? just curious not trying to be a d*ck. most people root their device anyways and the ones who dont probably wont notice it.
so what are other disadvantages of tripping knox?

Towel Root won't work on any firmware released since June 3, if I remember correctly. Google hired the guy to find and patch the types of exploits he discovered and used in Towel Root.

fcortes626 said:
In what way does it give it a better resell value? just curious not trying to be a d*ck. most people root their device anyways and the ones who dont probably wont notice it.
so what are other disadvantages of tripping knox?
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Just based off selling price and how long it takes to sell on swappa, Craigslist, or eBay. And some will ask if it's rooted.
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All my phones sold on eBay with root sold for higher than those without root. So I don't know what your referring to.

twe90kid said:
All my phones sold on eBay with root sold for higher than those without root. So I don't know what your referring to.
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That's great. Mines rooted. What about resale value if Knox has been tripped?
I would sell on eBay but I hate the 10% they take from you. So I've never sold my phones there. I like selling on swappa or Craigslist.
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aznmode said:
Just based off selling price and how long it takes to sell on swappa, Craigslist, or eBay. And some will ask if it's rooted.
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oh the phones i have i bought new and i have never sold on any of those sites so i wouldnt know.

I think most ppl who aren't that familiar with root but have heard of it somewhat gets scared of units that are rooted. So they tend to stay away from buying them. And some care to have Knox for work. So your buyer base are much slimmer IMO than with an unrooted and Knox untripped devices.
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twe90kid said:
All my phones sold on eBay with root sold for higher than those without root. So I don't know what your referring to.
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mine too..

Rooted my t-mobile note 4 with chainfire.

It's not that the phone is rooted, but you lose Knox functionality. For those that want it or need it, your phone loses value. Look up Knox 2.0 if you're unfamiliar with what it is.

pete4k said:
That's not a big surprise, since firmware was patched back in June or something and even Note 3 with latest firmware can't be rooted with towelroot, unless you downgrade kernel to older version first. Developer supposed to work for Google now, so don't expect updates either.
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Actually it does work.. I rooted my note 3 about 2 months ago and it did just fine..

I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and i use towelroot to root my phone and it says this phone currently not supported

I towelrooted my S5 (though I had to 'jump through hoops' to do it)
My wife is getting the Note 4 tomorrow which I want to root and debloat for her.
I'm kinda keen not to blow the warranty on the day of purchase......
Is there a way of rooting without tripping knox? I've had a quick look at the sticky's and not seen anything......
Edit......With my S5, which was running a KK firmware (later than June 2014) I had to install towelroot, odin flash a pre June kernel, run towelroot, odin flash the original (post June) Kernel. .....will this method work on the Note 4? (Assuming the device still has out of the box KK)
Edit 2....nvm....just figured it out for myself.....looking at the device specs.....It comes with 4.4.4 which I guess means that 4.4.2 is not available for it. Which in turn means pre June firmware kernels don't exist, so there's nothing available that towelroot will work with.......
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keithross39 said:
I towelrooted my S5 (though I had to 'jump through hoops' to do it)
My wife is getting the Note 4 tomorrow which I want to root and debloat for her.
I'm kinda keen not to blow the warranty on the day of purchase......
Is there a way of rooting without tripping knox? I've had a quick look at the sticky's and not seen anything......
Edit......With my S5, which was running a KK firmware (later than June 2014) I had to install towelroot, odin flash a pre June kernel, run towelroot, odin flash the original (post June) Kernel. .....will this method work on the Note 4? (Assuming the device still has out of the box KK)
Edit 2....nvm....just figured it out for myself.....looking at the device specs.....It comes with 4.4.4 which I guess means that 4.4.2 is not available for it. Which in turn means pre June firmware kernels don't exist, so there's nothing available that towelroot will work with.......
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Just use CF AUTO ROOT on your PC. TMOBILE does not care from my experience.
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SM-N915S/K Root

Root confirmed working for Samsung Galaxy Note Edge Exynos Korea SM-N915 "S" via the legend Chainfire CF-Auto-Root
FOR THE MOST CURRENT ROOT METHOD, PLEASE REFER TO THIS THREAD >> [INFO] [CF-Auto-Root] Galaxy Note Edge SM-N915
WARNING : KNOX COUNTER WILL BE TRIPPED AND WARRANTY VOID - THERE IS NO CURRENTLY KNOWN METHOD TO RESET THE COUNTER OR ROOT WITHOUT TRIPPING KNOX !!
I used : SM-N910"K" (Korea, Exynos): CF-Auto-Root-treltektt-treltektt-smn910k.zip . Another user in this thread had reported that using the SM-N910 "S" Cf-Autoroot failed to boot, so I instead tried the "K" and success. All THANKS & credit to @Chainfire, if you require the stock recovery for SM-N915S, I'd gladly send it to you if you require it to make a formal Cf-Autoroot for our device.
Root has also been confirmed using the same method and file for SM-N915"K" here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56761632&postcount=34
Method:
1. Advised: Have a full stock firmware package available (just in case) [sammobile.com or samsung-updates.com]
2. Have Samsung USB drivers installed on Windows PC (Easiest way is DL KIES from Samsung)
3. Flash via Odin [I used Odin3 v3.07 - attachment] as per Chainfire's instructions !
** If unsure how to use Odin, there are many guides found by searching !
4. Wait around 30 secs after flash (stuck on boot screen), and hopefully device will boot.
5. Open SuperSU app and update SU if prompted
Note: You will have installed stock Android system recovery for SM-N910K. This should not affect the operation of the ROM.
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Root by using the note 4 method. This has been confirmed.

xile6 said:
Root by using the note 4 method. This has been confirmed.
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So Cf-Autoroot from Note 4 works for SM-N915 "S". If so which exact one ?
If confirmed for "S" model, would be one less thing for me to look at. ..... I can proceed with a kernel

UpInTheAir said:
So Cf-Autoroot from Note 4 works for SM-N915 "S". If so which exact one ?
If confirmed for "S" model, would be one less thing for me to look at. ..... I can proceed with a kernel
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I am not sure if it was for the S model.
I remember the Japan model was first to be rooted and there is a youtube video on it.
But unsure about the "S" model.
Didnt see the S in the frost post.

xile6 said:
I am not sure if it was for the S model.
I remember the Japan model was first to be rooted and there is a youtube video on it.
But unsure about the "S" model.
Didnt see the S in the frost post.
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If someone doesn't confirm for "S" model, I'll just have to create a root method myself

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If someone doesn't confirm for "S" model, I'll just have to create a root method myself
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So glad to hear that there will be someone else on here with SM-N915S model.
Silly question, but what would be the benefit of rooting this model of Edge right now? I ask coz there's no custom rom available atm.

invisiblesense said:
So glad to hear that there will be someone else on here with SM-N915S model.
Silly question, but what would be the benefit of rooting this model of Edge right now? I ask coz there's no custom rom available atm.
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Main use is for root apps and deleting system apps.
You can then manual theme things.
After my samsung s2 i just stuck with stock rooted roms. Removed things i didnt want.

xile6 said:
Main use is for root apps and deleting system apps.
You can then manual theme things.
After my samsung s2 i just stuck with stock rooted roms. Removed things i didnt want.
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That's what I need, there's a lot of Korean apps on my phone. I have disabled some but they still show up here an there. Another very annoying thing is the dailer, it has Korean text on it which I want to remove as I only want English.
I'd be happy if I could remove some of those apps, and add the yahoo and twitter panels.
Do you think I'd able to flash an international version rom my Edge at some point?
Thanks.

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That's what I need, there's a lot of Korean apps on my phone. I have disabled some but they still show up here an there. Another very annoying thing is the dailer, it has Korean text on it which I want to remove as I only want English.
I'd be happy if I could remove some of those apps, and add the yahoo and twitter panels.
Do you think I'd able to flash an international version rom my Edge at some point?
Thanks.
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I am unsure on that. The processor is different I believe and that would be a main thing.
But with root you would be able to change most of the apps and you might be able to set up the build.prop to a USA one that should let you add yahoo and get to the USA panel store.

invisiblesense said:
So glad to hear that there will be someone else on here with SM-N915S model.
Silly question, but what would be the benefit of rooting this model of Edge right now? I ask coz there's no custom rom available atm.
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Apart from removing a few "useless" apps, able to use various root type apps (properly) such as Greenify, Titanium, Synapse etc.
But the main reason is to control a custom kernel I intend to build (time permitting). Also remove knox features and set SELinux permissive for Titanium Backup app to work correctly.
In future, I might look at a very basic ROM, but NOT on my to-do list

xile6 said:
I am unsure on that. The processor is different I believe and that would be a main thing.
But with root you would be able to change most of the apps and you might be able to set up the build.prop to a USA one that should let you add yahoo and get to the USA panel store.
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The processor being different is my main concern, let's hope some people will address this.
The edge is the best piece gadget I have ever owned. I'd be sorted if these issues were sorted.
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Apart from removing a few "useless" apps, able to use various root type apps (properly) such as Greenify, Titanium, Synapse etc.
But the main reason is to control a custom kernel I intend to build (time permitting). Also remove knox features and set SELinux permissive for Titanium Backup app to work correctly.
In future, I might look at a very basic ROM, but NOT on my to-do list
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A basic rom that includes all essential Note functions would be awesome on the edge.

Does the root method for the Note 4 also apply to the Japanese version of the Note Edge? I'm looking to pick up a Docomo Note Edge....

tsaojam said:
Does the root method for the Note 4 also apply to the Japanese version of the Note Edge? I'm looking to pick up a Docomo Note Edge....
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Who knows, this thread is reference to the Korean "S" model that I intend to support.
Wait for confirmation or risk a brick yourself.

Can someone confirm the root for sm-n915s?

copysat said:
Can someone confirm the root for sm-n915s?
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I m waiting for answer. Anybody knows can i change n915s rom with other? I could not use SK Telekom Rom

dtosun said:
I m waiting for answer. Anybody knows can i change n915s rom with other? I could not use SK Telekom Rom
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Post in Q&A where your "question" belongs.
It's OT and nothing to do with my general statement of intention to develop this beast (when I get my hands on it).
I'm going to start taking a look at kernel sources sometime today/tomorrow, so I get a head start before the device arrives (Friday? )

Can someone please explain if this website is showing how to root Note Edge SM-N915S?
http://www.shuaji.net/samsung/EDGE/N915S/2014103020939.html
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http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...aji.net/samsung/EDGE/N915S/2014103020939.html

invisiblesense said:
Can someone please explain if this website is showing how to root Note Edge SM-N915S?
http://www.shuaji.net/samsung/EDGE/N915S/2014103020939.html
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http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...aji.net/samsung/EDGE/N915S/2014103020939.html
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Root or no root, I can tell you one thing for sure, that I won't be downloading and running any .exe file from there......

UpInTheAir said:
Root or no root, I can tell you one thing for sure, that I won't be downloading and running any .exe file from there......
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Is it SK Telekom rom or Samsung Official rom?

UpInTheAir said:
Root or no root, I can tell you one thing for sure, that I won't be downloading and running any .exe file from there......
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That doesn't sound too good - is that site doggy?

Health,Knox says im Rooted after flashing Stock frimware?

Hello, i was rooted for the past month and decided to go back to stock,
after flashing stock that i downloaded from SamFrim to my Region(Israel) i can't use the Samsung apps, they say im rooted.
i did restore my apps and settings from my samsung cloud, could this be the issue?
Thanks

may be because it tripped the knox counter. But i believe that only stop you from using samsung pay. Maybe try re-flash the stock. or use different source? samsung-update?

baophucdinh31 said:
may be because it tripped the knox counter. But i believe that only stop you from using samsung pay. Maybe try re-flash the stock. or use different source? samsung-update?
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do i need to wipe the internal storage? i didn't do that before.
also i flashed the updated stock firmware, not the one that came with the phone.
could this picture help to identify the real stock frimware?
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If you performed a factory reset, and flashed stock firmware from SamFirm, you will no longer be rooted.
However, your Knox status is tripped to 0x1 (instead of 0x0) permanently. This cannot be changed, you will no longer be able to use Knox, or any application protected by Knox such as Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, Secure Folder.. etc.
Your warranty is also void, since a Knox status of 0x1 voids the warranty and is checked at every repair center.
You are not able to reset the knox status, ever. But, some methods exist to fool apps to think that it wasn't tripped to use Samsung Health etc using custom roms / Magisk etc.

Skander1998 said:
If you performed a factory reset, and flashed stock firmware from SamFirm, you will no longer be rooted.
However, your Knox status is tripped to 0x1 (instead of 0x0) permanently. This cannot be changed, you will no longer be able to use Knox, or any application protected by Knox such as Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, Secure Folder.. etc.
Your warranty is also void, since a Knox status of 0x1 voids the warranty and is checked at every repair center.
You are not able to reset the knox status, ever. But, some methods exist to fool apps to think that it wasn't tripped to use Samsung Health etc using custom roms / Magisk etc.
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Can anyone confirm this? i saw some threads on reddit on people who flashed stock again and managed to use Knox applications again.
man i wish i knew this before..

gilad215 said:
Can anyone confirm this? i saw some threads on reddit on people who flashed stock again and managed to use Knox applications again.
man i wish i knew this before..
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As I said, you can use Magisk Hide to trick some apps, but the Knox status will always remain tripped.
Aka if you unroot and remove magisk, you will (again) not be able to use those apps.
And there is no guarantee that Samsung won't patch the apps to break Magisk Hide.
Knox status is a hardware fuse that gets permanently tripped.

gilad215 said:
Can anyone confirm this? i saw some threads on reddit on people who flashed stock again and managed to use Knox applications again.
man i wish i knew this before..
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It's true. And it is also heavily frowned upon by the community as it serves no purpose. Most apps can be replaced by other 3rd party apps, but specificaly samsung pay is ofcourse made by samsung and can not be replaced. Best thing you can do is keep using a non-stock rom that hides your knox (most do) so you can continue to use your apps that check for the knox-status.
Don't stare yourself blind on the loss of warranty. Samsung does not make consumer laws and they have to follow your local laws in this, no matter what your knox status is and what they want you to believe.
In general, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just remember for your next phone that Samsung is not the first choice for power users who like to root and take full ownership of their devices.

TheFrozen4 said:
It's true. And it is also heavily frowned upon by the community as it serves no purpose. Most apps can be replaced by other 3rd party apps, but specificaly samsung pay is ofcourse made by samsung and can not be replaced. Best thing you can do is keep using a non-stock rom that hides your knox (most do) so you can continue to use your apps that check for the knox-status.
Don't stare yourself blind on the loss of warranty. Samsung does not make consumer laws and they have to follow your local laws in this, no matter what your knox status is and what they want you to believe.
In general, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just remember for your next phone that Samsung is not the first choice for power users who like to root and take full ownership of their devices.
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Thank you for your words stranger, i will not apologize for wanting control

In the US software modifications will not cause denial of warranties UNLESS the software modifications can be proven in court to have caused the hardware failure.
Knox is the dumbest move Samsung has done in recent memory. It was originally designed for integrity for businesses who wanted to use an Android phone with extra security. I really wonder how successful this was vs the headache it's caused for other users.
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I have an S7 Edge and never did root in it, but when installing the Nougat ZTO rom of Brazil it triggered the Knox Ox1, I took my device in the technical assistance and they refused by the hands in him, never I did root, I still have 2 months of guarantee So I made a complaint on a site here in Brazil and Samsung will exchange my cell phone card courtesy.
Your cell phone happened the same thing that happened to mine, look for a consumer protection organization and use your rights to have the repair.

evo4g63t said:
In the US software modifications will not cause denial of warranties UNLESS the software modifications can be proven in court to have caused the hardware failure.
Knox is the dumbest move Samsung has done in recent memory. It was originally designed for integrity for businesses who wanted to use an Android phone with extra security. I really wonder how successful this was vs the headache it's caused for other users.
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Knox is the greatest thing Samsung made.
Businesses need solutions like Knox to maintain integrity and manage employee phones.
In addition, for the consumers, it enables advanced access to the firewall and such without root, for apps like AdHell and DisconnectPro to exist and block ads without root.
Like it or not, a rooted device is a compromised device. There is no telling if a device that was ever rooted and tampered with is safe anymore, for businesses this is not a joke.
You have to remember that people who root their smartphones are an incredibly small minority.

Hi, I bought an s8 with stock firmware flashed onto it and the knox is tripped. Little bit sickened because I didn't know this at the time of buying it and of course have only recently discovered the importance of Knox in relation to certain apps and services that Samsung provides. My question is, is it possible to update the firmware to the lastest version OTA or will it just keep saying I have the latest version installed? lastly is my phone technically rooted even though it has stock firmware? Now that knox is tripped anyway,should I just go ahead and use a custom rom?
Thanks in advance.

Dark Elderyn said:
I have an S7 Edge and never did root in it, but when installing the Nougat ZTO rom of Brazil it triggered the Knox Ox1, I took my device in the technical assistance and they refused by the hands in him, never I did root, I still have 2 months of guarantee So I made a complaint on a site here in Brazil and Samsung will exchange my cell phone card courtesy.
Your cell phone happened the same thing that happened to mine, look for a consumer protection organization and use your rights to have the repair.
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But to flash a custom rom you have to have root privileges.
[EDIT] JUST noticed ZTO is the stock rom. Nevermind my post

I've reflashed older Galaxy S models and it reset the Knox counter.

So my warranty is void after going root on stock?
Is there any way to recover that?

silverkin said:
So my warranty is void after going root on stock?
Is there any way to recover that?
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The only way would be getting lucky, I guess.
You would have to flash the oldest available firmware via Odin and hope that works. I had success doing this with Galaxy S4 Minis but Knox was merely at the bootloader level back then, and was not fully developed as a security suite.
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Knox is the greatest thing Samsung made.
Businesses need solutions like Knox to maintain integrity and manage employee phones.
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No Fortune 500 company would be caught dead using an Android phone. Knox isn't nearly enough to wipe away Android's bad reputation as being hackable, and this forum's existence is proof enough of that.

Teracotta said:
The only way would be getting lucky, I guess.
You would have to flash the oldest available firmware via Odin and hope that works. I had success doing this with Galaxy S4 Minis but Knox was merely at the bootloader level back then, and was not fully developed as a security suite.
No Fortune 500 company would be caught dead using an Android phone. Knox isn't nearly enough to wipe away Android's bad reputation as being hackable, and this forum's existence is proof enough of that.
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There is no way (or getting lucky) to bypass Knox when rooting since the S7.
Knox is hardware fuse, good luck 'resetting it'.
Except you're incorrect. Knox enabled phones are used in companies all over the world including the united states government. That's the point of certifying it by the NSA in the first place.
All data in knox secured partitions (containers) like Secure Folder (and all of enterprise knox enabled devices) is wiped if the device is rooted. There is absolutely ZERO way to bypass Knox tripping when rooting and tampering with the device.
If anything, this forum is proof that no one has been able to bypass Knox's detection in any meaningful way.