Will Samsung allow customers to uninstall bloatware? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Will Samsung allow customers to uninstall bloatware?
To me, that would be a killer feature!

No. You need to be rooted.
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Did you get a chance to play with one of these @ BB? I didn't see a lot of bloat or really any honestly. Samsung Retail mode though, no idea what carriers will force.

mchief298 said:
No. You need to be rooted.
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How easy is it to root on AT&T?

Stigga said:
How easy is it to root on AT&T?
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We will find out as it comes.
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mchief298 said:
No. You need to be rooted.
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Correct if you want to uninstall them, but you can "disable" bloat from the applications section in the settings to free up memory and to cut down on unnecessary processes without needing root.

I'm not sure how the US carriers will handle this issue, but all of my carrier-specific apps were uninstallable on my Korean Note 4. Samsung and Google services have been hit-or-miss. But then again, there was specific legislation passed here on this very subject last year.

Neo3D said:
Will Samsung allow customers to uninstall bloatware?
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What do you mean by "bloatware"? Like health app?

Is there a way to delete the AT&T apps without rooting ?

bat0nas said:
What do you mean by "bloatware"? Like health app?
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Like that stupid flip board app.

Sprint has been pretty good about being able to straight uninstall all those useless programs they load once you activate. The rest has to be root uninstalled to remove. I've been using Samsung devices for awhile and most have to be rooted to remove their extra features.
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Can't you just disable them? They'll still take up space but they won't run.

uninstalling some of the applications, especially from google or samsung could break other things seemingly unrelated, so much better way is to freeze them, but you need root. greenify has some option to stop apps from starting on boot up, not 100% sure, but I think it works even without root.

greenify is limited without root, but it is a start.

Does anyone know when the ATT note 3 was able to root?

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Rooted ROMs and banking

I would like to root my nexus 4 but the problem is I use mobile banking and banking apps don't work well with rooted phones. Is there a way out of this?
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Mubz_C said:
I would like to root my nexus 4 but the problem is I use mobile banking and banking apps don't work well with rooted phones. Is there a way out of this?
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There are some things that will allow you to temp unroot while you use apps like that but for a complete work around there is no option. Rooting is seen as a security flaw and that is why banking apps have made it so they dont work if root is detected.
zelendel said:
There are some things that will allow you to temp unroot while you use apps like that but for a complete work around there is no option. Rooting is seen as a security flaw and that is why banking apps have made it so they dont work if root is detected.
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Do you know what I can use to temp unroot my phone?
Have you actually checked whether or not your bank app checks for root?
I use my banking app all the time without any problems on a rooted phone.
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bluzguy said:
I use my banking app all the time without any problems on a rooted phone.
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Not all apps allow it. My banking app for the federal credit union doesn't allow rooted devices.
As for wanting the app. Check the market for temp unroot
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bluzguy said:
I use my banking app all the time without any problems on a rooted phone.
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Like others said it depends on the bank.
Since the op is in the UK, im guessing it's barclays i'm pretty sure they are the only uk bank who blocks root users. @Mubz_C you should go to Halifax, it's better
22sl22 said:
Like others said it depends on the bank.
Since the op is in the UK, im guessing it's barclays i'm pretty sure they are the only uk bank who blocks root users. @Mubz_C you should go to Halifax, it's better
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I'm with Lloyd's I don't know about their banking apps.
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22sl22 said:
Like others said it depends on the bank.
Since the op is in the UK, im guessing it's barclays i'm pretty sure they are the only uk bank who blocks root users. @Mubz_C you should go to Halifax, it's better
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Ha... Even Halifax have said their next update will be an app that won't work on rooted devices, hopefully one of these root cloak apps will suffice as a workaround.
live_0978 said:
Ha... Even Halifax have said their next update will be an app that won't work on rooted devices, hopefully one of these root cloak apps will suffice as a workaround.
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Lol talk about a delayed response, from 2013
But seriously, I am a Halifax customer and I am pissed at the new update, they have already implemented it so now I can only use there sh*tty mobile ui.
Already tried using a root cloak but it doesn't work
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22sl22 said:
Lol talk about a delayed response, from 2013
But seriously, I am a Halifax customer and I am pissed at the new update, they have already implemented it so now I can only use there sh*tty mobile ui.
Already tried using a root cloak but it doesn't work
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You had to expect it. I mean root is a security issue on devices. Last thing you need is a root app that has a built in Key logger.
Need help.. root cloack+xposed, magisk (hide root) can not help?
Please mandiri bank app still detect super su, busy box, xposed
hakimarx said:
Need help.. root cloack+xposed, magisk (hide root) can not help?
Please mandiri bank app still detect super su, busy box, xposed
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There is no way to hide Xposed, u'll have yo disable it. Magisk works well if u don't have Xposed.
Ps: don't know what detection method the bank app u reference uses.

Free alternative to TiBu for freezing apps

Found it here on XDA the other day! I didn't really want to pay $7 just for one function. Give it a try, seems to work well for me so far!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.SystemCleanup.Inteks.org
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xDroid4Lifex said:
Found it here on XDA the other day! I didn't really want to pay $7 just for one function. Give it a try, seems to work well for me so far!
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Does disabling an app have the same effect as freezing?
basestamp said:
Does disabling an app have the same effect as freezing?
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Yes
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Caseyk621 said:
Yes
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Not entirely, some apps can't be disabled. A lot of system apps don't allow disabling and you need need a separate app with root access to freeze them.
Just wanted to share this with others who might have the same opinion about paying for TiBu pro just to get the "Freeze/Defrost apps" option.
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xDroid4Lifex said:
Not entirely, some apps can't be disabled. A lot of system apps don't allow disabling and you need need a separate app with root access to freeze them.
Just wanted to share this with others who might have the same opinion about paying for TiBu pro just to get the "Freeze/Defrost apps" option.
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So when you freeze said apps w said app it's different than disabling them?
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Caseyk621 said:
So when you freeze said apps w said app it's different than disabling them?
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If said app has option to disable in settings menu its basically the same. If said app does not allow disable through settings(most system apps do not allow this) then you must use TiBu pro or some other form of that to completely disable or "freeze" it.
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xDroid4Lifex said:
If said app has option to disable in settings menu its basically the same. If said app does not allow disable through settings(most system apps do not allow this) then you must use TiBu pro or some other form of that to completely disable or "freeze" it.
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Agreed... So what's the difference between freezing and disabling?
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Caseyk621 said:
Agreed... So what's the difference between freezing and disabling?
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Nothing really, carriers just don't want you disabling bloat apps that generate revenue so that option isn't given in the settings menu for most of them. A lot can be disabled through the settings menu but for those that can't be you need an app that can do that same function the OEM doesn't allow by default.
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xDroid4Lifex said:
Nothing really, carriers just don't want you disabling bloat apps that generate revenue so that option isn't given in the settings menu for most of them. A lot can be disabled through the settings menu but for those that can't be you need an app that can do that same function the OEM doesn't allow by default.
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Therefore you're in agreement to my answer to the question "Does freezing have the same effect as disabling...?"
Answer: Yes
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Caseyk621 said:
Therefore you're in agreement to my answer to the question "Does freezing have the same effect as disabling...?"
Answer: Yes
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To the extent the app allows disabling through settings, yes, because if the app does not allow disabling by default technically its not the same effect. You need to either rename that app in /system with a .bak extension(as far as I remember that's how its done) or use a separate app to freeze(disable) it.
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xDroid4Lifex said:
To the extent the app allows disabling through settings, yes, because if the app does not allow disabling by default technically its not the same effect. You need to either rename that app in /system with a .bak extension(as far as I remember that's how its done) or use a separate app to freeze(disable) it.
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Also agree. So what is the difference in the end effect? I understand fully the processes you describe..... What are the different effects?
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Caseyk621 said:
Also agree. So what is the difference in the end effect? I understand fully the processes you describe..... What are the different effects?
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From what I can see the only difference is a disabled app is shown in Settings-Apps-Disabled, whereas when you "freeze" it, its as if you uninstalled it from the system.
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xDroid4Lifex said:
From what I can see the only difference is a disabled app is shown in Settings-Apps-Disabled, whereas when you "freeze" it, its as if you uninstalled it from the system.
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Well if you take OTA while app is either frozen or disabled it works no problem. If you uninstall it it will fail.
Also uninstalling a system app will free up space in ram. Suggesting that is gone. Freezing/disabling will not.
Explain how these are the same.
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Caseyk621 said:
Well if you take OTA while app is either frozen or disabled it works no problem. If you uninstall it it will fail.
Also uninstalling a system app will free up space in ram. Suggesting that is gone. Freezing/disabling will not.
Explain how these are the same.
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I think you misunderstood what I meant. When I said "as if it was uninstalled from the system" I only meant that if you browsed the apps in the settings menu said app would not exist anywhere in that menu, but the actual file would still be in /system/app or /system/priv-app, that is why OTAs are not an issue as the system verification sees the files are still there.
"Freezing" will not free up any user storage space since most apps you freeze reside in /system which doesn't count as user space. but it will certainly free up RAM as the frozen application is not allowed to run.
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xDroid4Lifex said:
I think you misunderstood what I meant. When I said "as if it was uninstalled from the system" I only meant that if you browsed the apps in the settings menu said app would not exist anywhere in that menu, but the actual file would still be in /system/app or /system/priv-app, that is why OTAs are not an issue as the system verification sees the files are still there.
"Freezing" will not free up any user storage space since most apps you freeze reside in /system which doesn't count as user space. but it will certainly free up RAM as the frozen application is not allowed to run.
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True.
I think we're just arguing different points. I'm saying that freezing and disabling have the same EFFECT. Whereas you're saying they're different in the processes involved. Apples and oranges. We're both right. I answered OPs question simply.....you chose to elaborate.
Therefore I'll discontinue participation in this specific discussion.
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Caseyk621 said:
True.
I think we're just arguing different points. I'm saying that freezing and disabling have the same EFFECT. Whereas you're saying they're different in the processes involved. Apples and oranges. We're both right. I answered OPs question simply.....you chose to elaborate.
Therefore I'll discontinue participation in this specific discussion.
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Exactly haha, but it does need a little bit of elaboration if one doesn't understand the process of freezing. I'm the OP btw someone else asked the question about disable/freezing.
Anyway, for anyone looking for a free solution to TiBu pros "freeze/defrost" option see link in OP.
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xDroid4Lifex;53285770 I'm the OP btw :) someone else asked the question about disable/freezing.
Lol. Touché. Should have said OQ...? Good info nonetheless....
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xDroid4Lifex said:
Nothing really, carriers just don't want you disabling bloat apps that generate revenue so that option isn't given in the settings menu for most of them.
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This I think is wrong. Every third party system app that I know of can be disabled.All of the Amazon apps can be disabled. Ingress can be disabled. IMDB can be disabled. The evil Caller Name ID can be disabled, as can NFL Mobile. VZ Navigator, I think even Gmail and Google calendar - all can be disabled. I am pretty sure that the only system apps that can't be disabled are critical apps that aren't third party bloatware. Maybe there is one or two, but surely most of them can be disabled.
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Debloating VZW (rooted stock)

Now that root is achieved, many will freeze or remove stock VZW apps. Are there any resources on which apps are safe to freeze? This may have been asked elsewhere, but this is likely to be a recurring question and a thread in Q&A could be useful. Any information would be appreciated.
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(Have been removed and functional thus far)
Ant Radio Service
Ant+ Plugins 2.2.0
Badge Provider 1.0
com.android.providers.part
Group Camcorder
Group Play
HealthService (don't use any of the health stuff - things would probably crash if I did)
Knox Notification Manager
Magnifier
Memo
My Files
One Time Init
PageBuddyNotiSvc
Quick connect
Quick Connect Interaction Service
S Health
S Voice
Samsung account
Samsung Billing
Samsung Calendar Sync Adapter
Samsung GALAXY Apps Widget
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Memoy SyncAdapter
Samsung Print Service Plugin
Samsung Push Service
Samsung SNote3 SyncAdapter
Samsung Updates
Security Policy Updates
Setup Wizard 1.0
SilentLogging
Smart Remote
Unified Daemon
Verizon Location Agent
Verizon Login
Verizon Support & Protection
Verizon Tones
Virtual Tour Viewer
Voicemail
VZ Navigator
Weather
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Backwardsblade said:
Now that root is achieved, many will freeze or remove stock VZW apps. Are there any resources on which apps are safe to freeze? This may have been asked elsewhere, but this is likely to be a recurring question and a thread in Q&A could be useful. Any information would be appreciated.
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I found this link:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-bloatware-list
My problem is that I do not seem to have any options to uninstall. With the KK Launcher I did have an uninstall option but it would say uninstall unsuccessful.
sgtcasey said:
I found this link:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-bloatware-list
My problem is that I do not seem to have any options to uninstall. With the KK Launcher I did have an uninstall option but it would say uninstall unsuccessful.
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That is interesting information, but I don't believe that article specifies what is safe to remove (just what the consider removing). Also, the ATT framework may not behave exactly as the VZW might, which is my specific question.
Edit: consider using titanium backup and freeze as an alternative to uninstalling entirely. Should give you the option to restore if needed.
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sgtcasey said:
I found this link:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-bloatware-list
My problem is that I do not seem to have any options to uninstall. With the KK Launcher I did have an uninstall option but it would say uninstall unsuccessful.
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Might need a root Uninstaller app from play store
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theneedhamwrath said:
Might need a root Uninstaller app from play store
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Ah, got it. Downloading/Installing that now. Thank you!
[Edit] Perfect, works great. Thanks again!
Anytime
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theneedhamwrath said:
Anytime
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Now onto game of thrones!
Just use boot browesr or something similar and go to /system/app and rename the bloat. Change myverizon.apk to myverizon.bak for example. That way it it cause issues you can just change it back.
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Backwardsblade said:
Now that root is achieved, many will freeze or remove stock VZW apps. Are there any resources on which apps are safe to freeze? This may have been asked elsewhere, but this is likely to be a recurring question and a thread in Q&A could be useful. Any information would be appreciated.
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- Google +
- Google Books
- Google Play Music
- Audible
- VZW protection
- Messaging +
- Amazon
- Kindle
- Amazon Appstore
- IMDB
- VZW ringtones
- VZW protection and support
- Isis Wallet
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I also removed these in addition to the above
Accessories
amazon app suite
amazon kindle
amazon mp3
ant hal
ant radio
ant plugins
audible
blurb checkout
caller name ID
cloud
google play newsstand
imdb
my infozone
my verizon login
VZ navigator
my magazine
google play games
flipboard
nfl mobile
In addition i also removed
knox
knox notification
klms agent
I recommend using titanium backup pro so you could backup the apps in case you ever need to restore then or run into an issue
Holy canoly I have removed tons more than this with no errors. On my lunch break I'll share my list if interested
jimbohurt said:
Holy canoly I have removed tons more than this with no errors. On my lunch break I'll share my list if interested
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Share it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784891
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Holy canoly I have removed tons more than this with no errors. On my lunch break I'll share my list if interested
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Sure, that would be great. I'll just add it as a running list. Just let me know if any trip your status from Official to Unofficial.
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Backwardsblade said:
Sure, that would be great. I'll just add it as a running list. Just let me know if any trip your status from Official to Unofficial.
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Crap how do I check that?
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Crap how do I check that?
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settings > status > bottom item.
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Backwardsblade said:
settings > status > bottom item.
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Settings > status? Dang bro I don't see that option in settings
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Settings > status? Dang bro I don't see that option in settings
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woops! settings > about > status.
its unclear what effect an unofficial tag might mean, but I'm just keeping my phone as close to stock as I can.
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Backwardsblade said:
woops! settings > about > status.
its unclear what effect an unofficial tag might mean, but I'm just keeping my phone as close to stock as I can.
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lol it changes absolutely nothing.. just undo what was done or flash stock odin tar and youre golden
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thanks
Backwardsblade said:
That is interesting information, but I don't believe that article specifies what is safe to remove (just what the consider removing). Also, the ATT framework may not behave exactly as the VZW might, which is my specific question.
Edit: consider using titanium backup and freeze as an alternative to uninstalling entirely. Should give you the option to restore if needed.
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I am also trying to figure out what is SAFE to remove versus what should be removed. The sticky has a short running list.
Thanks so much! My phone suddenly either had an espresso shot or decided to become a triathlete!

[Q] Bloatware Help

Is there a list of which bloatware I can uninstall by Titanium Backup?
Why don't you try searching. Here's a hint, Google i337 bloatware list xda
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jd1639 said:
Why don't you try searching. Here's a hint, Google i337 bloatware list xda
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I did that but my phone is rooted and some guides are without root, not specifically for this model, or is naturally a short list.
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I did that but my phone is rooted and some guides are without root, not specifically for this model, or is naturally a short list.
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Bloatware is bloatware doesn't matter if you're rooted or not. It just easier if you're rooted. And please, just freeze the bloatware don't delete it, until you're sure it won't affect your phone
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jd1639 said:
Bloatware is bloatware doesn't matter if you're rooted or not. It just easier if you're rooted. And please, just freeze the bloatware don't delete it, until you're sure it won't affect your phone
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I meant to type freeze, but i'm saying is there a list of all system apps that aren't beneficial and that you can freeze (Not a short list, but a moderate list).
I found something like this, but i'm not sure if its AT&T specific:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470862
http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/how-to-weed-out-bloatware-from-your-galaxy-s4-86602.html
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I found something like this, but i'm not sure if its AT&T specific:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470862
http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/how-to-weed-out-bloatware-from-your-galaxy-s4-86602.html
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See the second post of this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40793787
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Thank you so much

Root and know

One more question.
I've rooted and disabled know, but I keep getting this message. What's this about?
Also, I get FCs on a lot of apps either after backing out, or after using them a while. I'm completely stock aside from root and adaway
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Rippley05 said:
One more question.
I've rooted and disabled know, but I keep getting this message. What's this about?
Also, I get FCs on a lot of apps either after backing out, or after using them a while. I'm completely stock aside from root and adaway
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That would be Verizon Protect.. You can disable it, or download Titanium Backup and Remove it from your phone....
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That would be Verizon Protect.. You can disable it, or download Titanium Backup and Remove it from your phone....
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I can not find an app named Verizon Protect. I see Verizon login
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Rippley05 said:
I can not find an app named Verizon Protect. I see Verizon login
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In Titanium Backup look for something that says Verizon and shows that Shield. Select and uninstall. Believe mine was called that, but I don't know why yours wouldn't be the same. You can also in the interim go into your apps on your phone and find that Icon and long hold, App Info, and Turn Off until you find the App to force Uninstall on TiBu

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