[Q] Can someone explain the terms kernel and ROM and so on? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I'm pretty new to this. I just rooted my phone, but don't know much on about it.
I hear people talk about downloading kernels and ROM, but in clear words, what are that?
I tried Google it, but not quite sure. Kernels is overclocking or underclocking your phone or something like that?
But what is ROMs then? A new "system" on the phone or something like that?
Thanks in advance.

Faspaiso said:
Hi
I'm pretty new to this. I just rooted my phone, but don't know much on about it.
I hear people talk about downloading kernels and ROM, but in clear words, what are that?
I tried Google it, but not quite sure. Kernels is overclocking or underclocking your phone or something like that?
But what is ROMs then? A new "system" on the phone or something like that?
Thanks in advance.
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You`re playing with fire here mate, guys like you are likely to end up with an expensive paperweight. Pitty

gee2012 said:
You`re playing with fire here mate, guys like you are likely to end up with an expensive paperweight. Pitty
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How wrong can i go?
Not doing anything I have no idea about tho. I just rooted with CF-Autoroot, which shouldn't cause problems and now I just want to search more info.

Faspaiso said:
Hi
I'm pretty new to this. I just rooted my phone, but don't know much on about it.
I hear people talk about downloading kernels and ROM, but in clear words, what are that?
I tried Google it, but not quite sure. Kernels is overclocking or underclocking your phone or something like that?
But what is ROMs then? A new "system" on the phone or something like that?
Thanks in advance.
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Are you familiar with the Windows PC terms? If so, I will show you a quick comparison for easy understand
- ROM (or firmware): contains the OS (Operating System), i.e Android.
- Kernels: a driver. A software (OS) talks to the hardware via the kernel.
And also some more terms:
- Bootloader: same as BIOS (CMOS) in the Windows PC.
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vndnguyen said:
Are you familiar with the Windows PC terms? If so, I will show you a quick comparison for easy understand
- ROM (or firmware): contains the OS (Operating System), i.e Android.
- Kernels: a driver. A software (OS) talks to the hardware via the kernel.
And also some more terms:
- Bootloader: same as BIOS (CMOS) in the Windows PC.
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Yes, I'm familiar with those and I understand, thanks.
Clicked thanks button.

Faspaiso said:
Yes, I'm familiar with those and I understand, thanks.
Clicked thanks button.
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Just FYI, you can obtain the detailed version information about Bootloader, Baseband, PDA, CSC... by using Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app.
(in the FIRMWARE INFO section).

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Engineering hboot, radios... Please help me understand

ok so I have been reading and what not... I have searched far and wide but still don't quite understand. But anyways here's my question.
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
To overclock:
1. Flash overclock kernal.
2. Install setcpu from market.
3. Go crazy.
4. You didn't search far and wide enough.
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Gopher love said:
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
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the .85 hboot will allow you to flash any part of a ROM, wipe any partition on the phone, and install recovery images from the Engineering scree. It helps you to not brick your phone. There have been a couple of people on this forum that would of bricked their device if they didn't have it.
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
Gopher love said:
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
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IIRC the HBoot would be similar to a BIOS. It physically loads the OS. However i've never changed a BIOS on a Windows Computer so i cannot tell you.
Gopher love said:
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
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It's all soldered into the main board and cannot be tampered with unless you feel like soldering, writing a kernel and a new OS.
Gopher love said:
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
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The best way to over clock a ROM is to download and install a kernel. You will need a program similar to SetCPU to manage the speed. If you should download Cyanogen(mod)'s CM7.x it will have a overclocking kernel natively.
Gopher love said:
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
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No problem, feel free to ask question and use the search alot of stuff as already been hit on.
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
smatthew45 said:
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
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With the caveat that, not always but often, better a radio with better signal will come at the expense of battery life.
screw up your bios and you pull the cmos battery, unplug the power supply and you're fine. screw up the radio or hboot and you have nothing to fall back on. A phone is a lot like a pc, without all of the fallback and replaceable parts.
I've been using the engineering radio for a few weeks now, no complaints, was worth the simple flash.
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
Gopher love said:
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
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YES. You need to make sure that you use a AOSP ROM kernel or a Sense Kernel. I'm not 100% sure about Royal Ginger. I believe it's AOSP but you'll want to double check
Gopher love said:
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
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Yes. But you can flash kernels w/o needing the E-hBoot. You can flash them from the recovery. and not they will not mess with anything.
Gopher love said:
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
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Yes some people are reporting that.
Gopher love said:
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project. Look at the G2 for an idea. Cyanogen has AOSP style UI, but they throw some extra options in.
Sense = HTC Skin. It's what the Droid Inc, Desire, come with
MotoBlur = Motorola's Skin all of the Moto Droid line & the Cliq come with
Espresso / MySense = T-Mobile's custom Skin for the MyTouch 4G
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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Kernels are based on the style of skin that you are using. We uses either Sense or AOSP. You need to know what type of ROM you are using, and flash the correct kernel. Meaning you cannot use a AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM. So make sure you know what RoyalGinger is prior to digging though Kernels.
Is there a way to confirm or verify if I have engineering boot installed?
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power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
darinmc said:
power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
kimbernator said:
Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
neidlinger said:
Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
kimbernator said:
So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
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i assume it would depend on the exact reason why it stop reading the cache partition. I do know i've see a few threads where people flashed a different recovery image and was able to re flash a ROM and getting it work. But then again it'd all depend on why it failed.
smatthew45 said:
faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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Yea.. The phone is plenty fast.. But that's just me.. i like to see how much father I can push it.
Is there a newer version of eng hboot above 0.85
EDIT:
While we're on the subject of radios, where can I download the latest version for mt4g
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List of things to do after buying a new Android Tablet

Hi all!
I would be very happy if you all could share your ideas and knowledge with me regarding
List of things to do after buying a new Android Tablet
I am expecting my GT-N8000 next week and I want to start on the right footing with my new device.
It could be a list of do this and do that....step by step in order of precedence.
ex:
1. Disable UAC on Windows
2. Install Samsung Kies software on PC
3. Backup current/original Bootloader and save it on your PC for fallback purposes
4. Backup current/original ROM and save it on your PC for fallback purposes
5. Copy CWM or whatever...on your SD Card.
6. Boot up by pressing this and that button....
7. and the list goes on and on....(with all of your help!)
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I've gone through the forum but I am so confused (being new to anything android )
I hope this will be a starting point for all newbies who are buying their android phone/tablet for the first time.
freelancer81 said:
Hi all!
I would be very happy if you all could share your ideas and knowledge with me regarding
List of things to do after buying a new Android Tablet
I am expecting my GT-N8000 next week and I want to start on the right footing with my new device.
It could be a list of do this and do that....step by step in order of precedence.
ex:
I've gone through the forum but I am so confused (being new to anything android )
I hope this will be a starting point for all newbies who are buying their android phone/tablet for the first time.
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ROOT, Then ROOT, THEN ROOT, and lastly ROOT...
copc said:
ROOT, Then ROOT, THEN ROOT, and lastly ROOT...
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Root - THEN EFS BACKUP
EFS Backup to Tar.gz and also to IMG - you really don't want to lose your IMEI
Only after that - do anything else
Bulbous said:
Root - THEN EFS BACKUP
EFS Backup to Tar.gz and also to IMG - you really don't want to lose your IMEI
Only after that - do anything else
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thank you for the heads up
so, can you specify which tool i should use for backing up the EFS?
freelancer81 said:
thank you for the heads up
so, can you specify which tool i should use for backing up the EFS?
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I just use a terminal emulator to get a command line interface (CLI) then do it manually
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859914
Root, install/setup firewall and adaway to block ads, setup tasker for automated things, install drawing apps, flash mod to get chrome into desktop mode only, and then i install all my other needed apps.
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my list of things to do after going through a galaxy tab 10.1 tab and a galaxy note tab 10.1 searching for a productivity tablet...give both to the kids and buy a Microsoft Surface Pro 128 GB....as an admin for a large company, I can do everything off it without having to make other less useful tools work well enough...
Get a case. A black one to be specific haha I got a white one to go with my white note, not the best idea... Got dirty fast. Also, if you are going to flash a rom, make it a stock based rom at first. Same UI and experience, but much faster.
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inferno 414 said:
Get a case. A black one to be specific haha I got a white one to go with my white note, not the best idea... Got dirty fast. Also, if you are going to flash a rom, make it a stock based rom at first. Same UI and experience, but much faster.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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Hi, thanks for the suggestion.
yeah...I've already ordered a black rotating leather case, a scratch guard and a handsfree set.
I plan to flash the amazing Revolution HD 9.0!
I've never done anything like this and am hesitant a bit though.
thanks again!!
freelancer81 said:
Hi, thanks for the suggestion.
yeah...I've already ordered a black rotating leather case, a scratch guard and a handsfree set.
I plan to flash the amazing Revolution HD 9.0!
I've never done anything like this and am hesitant a bit though.
thanks again!!
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I'm actually running Revolution! Fantastic rom. I didn't have any trouble flashing it, but I'm sure some people have. Just make sure to do a backup before flashing
inferno 414 said:
I'm actually running Revolution! Fantastic rom. I didn't have any trouble flashing it, but I'm sure some people have. Just make sure to do a backup before flashing
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i plan to do a nandroid backup + efs backup.
i've downloaded the stock rom too.
i want to know whether 3G cellular will function or not coz some members are posting problem with not being able to use cellular anymore.
what about you...any problem?
freelancer81 said:
i plan to do a nandroid backup + efs backup.
i've downloaded the stock rom too.
i want to know whether 3G cellular will function or not coz some members are posting problem with not being able to use cellular anymore.
what about you...any problem?
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Sorry, couldn't help you there I'm running the WiFi version, so naturally, it doesn't work for me haha Sorry again
inferno 414 said:
Sorry, couldn't help you there I'm running the WiFi version, so naturally, it doesn't work for me haha Sorry again
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Thanks anyway.
I need to really confirm this before I flash it.
Oh...I am such a big noob.
Can you pls look around the Revolution HD 9.0 thread and and confirm if you got time? My net is so slow and I am on a win mobile phone...hard to go through 200 pages!
Greatly appreciate you for your concern.
freelancer81 said:
Thanks anyway.
I need to really confirm this before I flash it.
Oh...I am such a big noob.
Can you pls look around the Revolution HD 9.0 thread and and confirm if you got time? My net is so slow and I am on a win mobile phone...hard to go through 200 pages!
Greatly appreciate you for your concern.
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Yeah, Just a sec
EDIT: I think it's working. I didn't find anyone that was having a problem anymore. The rom is based on the 3G version firmware, so I doubt you would have trouble.
inferno 414 said:
Yeah, Just a sec
EDIT: I think it's working. I didn't find anyone that was having a problem anymore. The rom is based on the 3G version firmware, so I doubt you would have trouble.
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thanks again!!!
now there's no stopping me in flashing the note to awesomeness!!!
freelancer81 said:
thanks again!!!
now there's no stopping me in flashing the note to awesomeness!!!
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Good luck!
inferno 414 said:
Good luck!
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I have rooted it finally using the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 ToolKit (I chose TWRP custom recovery as it is touch/button based)
Then I did a full backup of the device using Nandroid TWRP
Then, just to be safe, I also did an EFS backup using EFS Professional.
I am just playing around and installing apps and games before I flash the Revolution HD 9.0 rom.
Thanks for the help!

[RK3188/3066/2918] Custom Firmware Tool for Windows

Longtime lurker. But its time to contribute! I recently bought a TimingPower RK3188 and searched high and low for these tools. After endless hours of searching and translating Chinese and Japanese I brought this little package together to build your own CFW. This probably isn't for complete newbies but I made it as simple as possible. I can confirm it works on my TimingPower RK3188 using Rockchip Batch Tool as well as copying update.img to SD. Anyway, enjoy!
This is what it does:
Extract update.img as well as system.img
Pre-root your firmware
Open system folder to edit your rom
Repack update.img
I cant post links so previews are a no no I guess. Let me know how it works. If this is the wrong section I apologize.
Thanks !!
Would like to bring to your attention (as you seem the only Chef so far) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437990
Hope you can help contribute to the thread, and possibly have the first full solution, root, CWM, CFW, custom ROM
Thanks! I was looking for a material Quick installation!
Hi, it doesn't work on win 8.1 pro...
paul-ac said:
Hi, it doesn't work on win 8.1 pro...
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thats weird it should work with any version of windows really... are you running as administrator?
misk8er said:
thats weird it should work with any version of windows really... are you running as administrator?
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Doesn't work on Windows 8 either. Compatibility setting was set to Windows XP SP3 to Windows 7, nothing worked.
Okay Windows 8 users should try this. RAR attached
Hi, I also bought a TimingPower RK3188 and was wondering where can I find Roms for it? Like a Finless Rom that might work for it? Anyone? Thanks!
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Hi, I also bought a TimingPower RK3188 and was wondering where can I find Roms for it? Like a Finless Rom that might work for it? Anyone? Thanks!
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Dear misk8er,
thanks so much for this!
I just used your tool to pre-root my RK3066 stock rom of my TX12D tablet.
Works perfect
Regards, Neptune
Hi.
When I run cfwtool.bat.
Update.img (RK3188).
Appears 3 options.
Please, what steps (steps to steps) for make pre-root in an image?
Tks...
:good:
I am looking to buy one of these. How well do you like it?
THANKS!!!
Works perfect!!
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pm'ed
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the timing power one is what im looking into as well. whats the story with roms and development?
Trancebear said:
I am looking to buy one of these. How well do you like it?
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I like it just fine, replaced my windows computer. only thing i have a hard time with is accepting the game quality lol. i miss windows games
TheWhiteChallenger said:
the timing power one is what im looking into as well. whats the story with roms and development?
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uhhh not sure what to say. i do it in my very rare spare time. i can take requests. i made my personal rom as small as possible. basically all i kept was a browser, google play and a media player. oh and flash player. everything else i just installed from google play
I bought 2 of these
TheWhiteChallenger said:
the timing power one is what im looking into as well. whats the story with roms and development?
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I am quite happy with them. However, some notes are in order. I received them with firmware 20130715 installed, and that does not support 1080p. The timingpower.com website offers 2 updated images for it, one 20131101, the other 20131104. The 20131101 image has some improvements over the 20130715 version, but still offers only 720p, but the 20131104 version does offer 1080p. I updated both units to the 1104 version, and it went smoothly, but it can be a bit unstable at times. The screen and sound cut out at random intervals, but I got used to that, even thought it is quite annoying. Overall the picture is amazing (i use it on a 65" flat screen). Speed is acceptable, not a gaming computer, but fast enough. Takes a bit to get used to using it, keep wanting to right-click stuff for options, and get dumped back a screen.
Suggest that you get a USB 2 hub (more ports are better). I connected a USB keyboard, USB mouse and USB camera (all cheap, nothing fancy), and they all worked fine. However, the tiny Bluetooth keyboard (IS11-BT05) that I got, doesn't seem to work. It pairs up just fine, and shows as recognized, but after that, nothing.
One caution note: if you do flash your device, make sure that you use a newer computer, with USB 2.0 , really old PC's with USB 1.1 will not work.
Making your own version of the ROM shouldn't be too difficult. Plenty of advise here, and there are even some tools available on the TimingPower site. I'm in the middle of customizing mine, and I have not found it particularly difficult. I mainly want to scrap some of the basic stuff, and make it more sleek (to my tastes). I am also considering incorporating a dual-boot option, for Android <-> Linus (not sure of what flavor yet).
BTW, I have an English translated version of the Chinese RKBatchTool Manual, should anyone need it.
thanks!
KitKat for CS968
I have been using your program to root my CS968 and other rockchip tv boxes running 4.2. I have now installed 4.4 rom, but you program does not work on KitKat. Does anyone know how to root a kitkat rom for my RK3188 CS968? I would be most greatfull.
thanks
how can flash ???or software rapair
rk3xxx-firmware-tools-by-sergiopoverony
I make more time ago Tools - you can find on Google - tag rk3xxx-firmware-tools-by-sergiopoverony

Improve the 2015 LG Spirit 4G LTE h440n

Hi guys,
So .. I hate lag, that's why I wanna do something about my LG Spirit, cos it lags annoyingly much. Here's what I got - Lollipop 5.0.1, software version V10h-EUR-XX, Build LRX21Y, Kernel 3.10.49
So I heard of this SetCPU app and wanna give it a try. But to give it a try I need the phone to be rooted. Tried many ways to root it but couldn't. So far so BAD! Then heard something about flashing a custom ROM to the phone. Do I have to have the phone rooted in order to flash a custom ROM to it? Or the other way around? Do I have to have a custom ROM in order to be able to root the device? And which custom ROM to go for for my Spirit?
Ultimately, I wanna get rid of this lag and to do that I'm giving these 2 things a try - (1) root the phone somehow and install SetCPU to overclock the CPU to make the darn thing run faster and (2) flash a custom ROM cos I heard custom ROM can run much faster and lighter than the stock OOTB OS.
One thing I already did was to install the latest Nova Launcher Prime. That alone has made the phone more responsive. With the stock HOME it seemed to work slower. Or is it just me?
Anyway, help me out by answering some of my uncertainties and pls do give me a tip on how to proceed.
Cheers!
Currently there are no custom roms for lg spirit on xda. You cant overclock the kernel, because you would need an OC kernel for that. My suggestion is to follow the guidelines in Tomo123's performance and battery enhancing thread. You can root the device via Kingroot, search for it on xda.
Thank you very much for the input! Muchly appreciated!
I don't wanna use this Chinese mysterious stuff ... kingroot. I'd rather root with something else.
Could I tell me if I need to be rooted in order to flash a custom ROM to my phone or is it the other way - having to have a custom ROM in order to be able to root it? Which way around is it?
I'm not sure what you mean by 'You cant overclock the kernel, because you would need an OC kernel for that.' What is an OC kernel? Are you saying that I cannot overclock my CPU because I need a custom ROM???
Any links to Tomo123's performance and battery enhancing thread?
You cannot root with anything else. There's no problem with it by the way so feel free to use it.
You have to root your phone first in order to install custom roms, but currently there are no custom roms for this device, nor unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (which is needed to install a custom rom).
An oc kernel is an OverClocked kernel which again we don't have yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...pu-tweaks-performance-battery-saving-t3217133
Here's the link ( you need root for this)
Thank you again. I just re-read your prev post and it now makes more sense to me. So apparently there's nothing in it for me to root, since we dont yet have and OverClocked kernel and any custom ROMs, meaning I can't squeeze out any benefit. Even if I managed to root the phone and installed SetCPU it won't help anything cos it won't let me overclock the CPU, due to the lack of an OC kernel as you said yourself.
So yeah ,.. thanks! Will give that link a look! Any idea when/how we'll ever get any custom ROMs and kernels for the LG spirit 2015? After all it's a cheap spin-off of the LG G4.
Is it just me or the Home Launcher also makes a difference? With the stock one things were kinda slow. With Nova Prime they seem kinda faster? Could it be or is it just me?
PS
I only wanted to root my phone so as to be able to overclock the CPU and make it run faster. I've read many reviews saying reasons why it is great to root your phone. However, since I can't overclock the CPU is there any other reason (in terms of making the phone faster and less laggy) why I would want to root it?
The home launcher does make a difference. The thread I shared with you contains a set of kernel settings which make the phone more responsive, have better multitasking, and conserve more battery. The developers at LG made weird settings to the kernel that's why we need to change them. But in order to do so, you need to root.
Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you. Now I get the picture. I may have misunderstood you earlier, cos i though u said in order to overclock i need and overclock-able kernel, which does not exist. And it seems that at the thread you linked to the guys are doing exactly that - overclocking and tweaking settings to the cpu and kernel. I guess they're doing all that on the stock kernel and ROM. So the bottom line. is you don't necessarily need a custom ROM and kernel in order to tweak stuff in the SetCPU app such as the clockspeed of the CPU and other kernel settings.
I guess this is the KingRoot thread I should use to root my Spirit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Well, in any event .. I gotta say a big thank you for even pointing me to that thread cos that was exactly what I was looking for. But pls shed some more light on my last post.
jonathansmith said:
Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you. Now I get the picture. I may have misunderstood you earlier, cos i though u said in order to overclock i need and overclock-able kernel, which does not exist. And it seems that at the thread you linked to the guys are doing exactly that - overclocking and tweaking settings to the cpu and kernel. I guess they're doing all that on the stock kernel and ROM. So the bottom line. is you don't necessarily need a custom ROM and kernel in order to tweak stuff in the SetCPU app such as the clockspeed of the CPU and other kernel settings.
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Correct
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jonathansmith said:
I guess this is the KingRoot thread I should use to root my Spirit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
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Yeah that's it
well, thank you so much for the input then !!!
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Hi guys,
So .. I hate lag, that's why I wanna do something about my LG Spirit, cos it lags annoyingly much. Here's what I got - Lollipop 5.0.1, software version V10h-EUR-XX, Build LRX21Y, Kernel 3.10.49
So I heard of this SetCPU app and wanna give it a try. But to give it a try I need the phone to be rooted. Tried many ways to root it but couldn't. So far so BAD! Then heard something about flashing a custom ROM to the phone. Do I have to have the phone rooted in order to flash a custom ROM to it? Or the other way around? Do I have to have a custom ROM in order to be able to root the device? And which custom ROM to go for for my Spirit?
Ultimately, I wanna get rid of this lag and to do that I'm giving these 2 things a try - (1) root the phone somehow and install SetCPU to overclock the CPU to make the darn thing run faster and (2) flash a custom ROM cos I heard custom ROM can run much faster and lighter than the stock OOTB OS.
One thing I already did was to install the latest Nova Launcher Prime. That alone has made the phone more responsive. With the stock HOME it seemed to work slower. Or is it just me?
Anyway, help me out by answering some of my uncertainties and pls do give me a tip on how to proceed.
Cheers!
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Hi and thank you for using XDA Assist
Try looking here
There are various threads and i'm sure there is something to take in consideration.
Good luck!
Thank you for the input! I appreciate it!
Ammm ... wait, what happened to the comments the other user made? They just got deleted or what? I cannot see them any more and I am logged in ... and I can see nilac's comments... so what gives?
I guess it would be nice, if possible, to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit ... that's where I wanted to post the thread anyway, but just couldn't find it. But still, if anyone can tell me what on earth happened with the comments the other user made to my posts ... it would be nice. His username is thomekk91 and I pdf'ed the thread luckily so I still have his comments, but I see no reasons why they got removed? Anyone?
jonathansmith said:
I guess it would be nice, if possible, to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit ... that's where I wanted to post the thread anyway, but just couldn't find it. But still, if anyone can tell me what on earth happened with the comments the other user made to my posts ... it would be nice. His username is thomekk91 and I pdf'ed the thread luckily so I still have his comments, but I see no reasons why they got removed? Anyone?
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Maybe you should read this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783031
You will find your answer there.
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OK, thank you for the info! May I ask you to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit where it actually belongs? And if you do so, could you restore the comments from that user, because they were helpful and might be helpful for others like me. Thank you in advance!
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OK, thank you for the info! May I ask you to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit where it actually belongs? And if you do so, could you restore the comments from that user, because they were helpful and might be helpful for others like me. Thank you in advance!
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Done. The thread will be moved soon.
Regards
trying to root now and so they have kingroot 4.6 now and it says here http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...x-5-0-t3107461 that:
We have two versions, one is mobile version( app) for one-click root, another is desktop version for root some special device which can not be rooted by mobile one. Attention please that the desktop version may be flash third party Recovery into your device.
and then
KingRoot is an amazing tool for "lazy people" who just want to get root access but don't want to flash any third party Recovery into their lovely device.
So first they say one thing and then kinda something else. What is the risk/problem with flashing 3rd party Recovery into my phone? Why would I want/not want that? and lastly ... which method to use - mobile or desktop?
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Done. The thread will be moved soon.
Regards
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Can i Update software when i have root?

Rom + Kernel

Hello, I'm a new user this device, my previous smartphone was S8 (Exynos) but i swapped on OP5 8/128 gb
Now i have a question, which rom + kernel make better performance combo ?
I am running PureFusion with Lightning Kernel V15 and my phone performs like a beast
dzesiu2002 said:
Hello, I'm a new user this device, my previous smartphone was S8 (Exynos) but i swapped on OP5 8/128 gb
Now i have a question, which rom + kernel make better performance combo ?
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+1 for Pure Fusion, I get up to 10 and a half hours screen on time with better performance than I get on OOS, noticeable by eye.
Ultimately, you may find a better combination out there, but the baseline for me is Fusion, it just works as it should, stamina and power.
rickysidhu_ said:
I am running PureFusion with Lightning Kernel V15 and my phone performs like a beast
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Thanks for answer, i will try your combo for sure
dladz said:
+1 for Pure Fusion, I get up to 10 and a half hours screen on time with better performance than I get on OOS, noticeable by eye.
Ultimately, you may find a better combination out there, but the baseline for me is Fusion, it just works as it should, stamina and power.
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Thanks for answer, which kernel do you use with Pure Fusion ?
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Thanks for answer, i will try your combo for sure
Thanks for answer, which kernel do you use with Pure Fusion ?
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the one that comes with it mate, lightening, I tried blue spark which some people swear by but I didn't like it compared to lightening.
dladz said:
the one that comes with it mate, lightening, I tried blue spark which some people swear by but I didn't like it compared to lightening.
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what governer and governer settings do you use with it?
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what governer and governer settings do you use with it?
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I haven't changed anything. So as it comes.
dladz said:
the one that comes with it mate, lightening, I tried blue spark which some people swear by but I didn't like it compared to lightening.
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Thanks again, do you use latest version of rom ? Kernel include in rom is latest too ?
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Thanks again, do you use latest version of rom ? Kernel include in rom is latest too ?
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Go for the beta-build. Really stable and awesome battery-life. That doesn´t include the latest version of Lightning kernel but you can flash that easy in your recovery.
ROM: https://download.purefusionos.com/r...n_cheeseburger-7.1.2-20171001_140503-BETA.zip
Latest Lightning Kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=27265
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Go for the beta-build. Really stable and awesome battery-life. That doesn´t include the latest version of Lightning kernel but you can flash that easy in your recovery.
ROM: https://download.purefusionos.com/r...n_cheeseburger-7.1.2-20171001_140503-BETA.zip
Latest Lightning Kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=27265
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Ok, what about performance ? Please tell me which gapps version to use and how perform installation.
dzesiu2002 said:
Ok, what about performance ? Please tell me which gapps version to use and how perform installation.
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Super smooth, absolutely as fast as Oxygen OS. I always use "GApps" and here U should choose "ARM64" and "7.1". I recommend you to use either "Nano" or "Pico", but you could choose whatever you want!
1. Flash the ROM in TWRP
2. Flash GApps
3. Flash Magisk/Super SU (If U want to be rooted)
4. Flash "no_verity_op5.zip" (If your phone are dectrypted, otherwise skip this one)
GApps: http://opengapps.org/
Magisk (Will not break SafetyNet): https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4302781&d=1508010356
Super SU (Will break SafetyNet): https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/supersu/download/zip/SuperSU-v2.82-201705271822.zip
No_verity = https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfpoa2x8g1x98k3/no_verity_op5.zip?dl=0
Gustav Karlsson said:
Super smooth, absolutely as fast as Oxygen OS. I always use "GApps" and here U should choose "ARM64" and "7.1". I recommend you to use either "Nano" or "Pico", but you could choose whatever you want!
1. Flash the ROM in TWRP
2. Flash GApps
3. Flash Magisk/Super SU (If U want to be rooted)
4. Flash "no_verity_op5.zip" (If your phone are dectrypted, otherwise skip this one)
GApps: http://opengapps.org/
Magisk (Will not break SafetyNet): https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4302781&d=1508010356
Super SU (Will break SafetyNet): https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/supersu/download/zip/SuperSU-v2.82-201705271822.zip
No_verity = https://www.dropbox.com/s/vfpoa2x8g1x98k3/no_verity_op5.zip?dl=0
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Thanks a lot mate Can u tell me more about what decrypted and uncrypted is ? and how check which status my device have ?
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Thanks again, do you use latest version of Rom ? Kernel include in rom is latest too ?
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Yea mate it's always the latest version of the Rom, I always clean flash too.
I've tried all the Rom's on XDA for the Oneplus, No limits for me is the best OOS Rom (personal choice) but overall and for the things I need from it, plus Displaylink technology works indefinitely on it, on OOS Rom's it cuts out after around 9 minutes which is a deal breaker for me.
10 hours SOT is superb.
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Yea mate it's always the latest version of the Rom, I always clean flash too.
I've tried all the Rom's on XDA for the Oneplus, No limits for me is the best OOS Rom (personal choice) but overall and for the things I need from it, plus Displaylink technology works indefinitely on it, on OOS Rom's it cuts out after around 9 minutes which is a deal breaker for me.
10 hours SOT is superb.
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Thanks, well if i flash latest version of rom then i dont need download manually latest kernel because last version of rom have in latest version kernel ? Can i please link to version which you use ? I need install gapps, if yes which one ? And magisk is for root ? Big please for flash instruction step by step.
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Thanks a lot mate Can u tell me more about what decrypted and uncrypted is ? and how check which status my device have ?
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Basicly:
Encrypted = Makes it more difficult for people who are not authorized to access information stored on the phone. You are thus safer when the phone are encrypted.
Decrypted = Opposite to Encrypted. The benefit with this one compared to Encrypted is a better performance.
You can check what U use by going to the settings menu, then head over to "Security & fingerprint", scroll down to the bottom and done.
PS: I am Decrypted!
Gustav Karlsson said:
Basicly:
Encrypted = Makes it more difficult for people who are not authorized to access information stored on the phone. You are thus safer when the phone are encrypted.
Decrypted = Opposite to Encrypted. The benefit with this one compared to Encrypted is a better performance.
You can check what U use by going to the settings menu, then head over to "Security & fingerprint", scroll down to the bottom and done.
PS: I am Decrypted!
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Thanks, a lot Well decrypted mean better performance ? My device is encrypted how to decrypt ?
before anyone drops any more advice here to this user, please be aware that narrating the entire learning process for flashing makes you partially responsible for what happens to this users phone.
@dzesiu2002 i strongly advise you to do research on all of these topics before going any further. you could end up wasting a lot of your time or worse: breaking your phone.
research research research. for everyone's sake. i'm not trying to be mean. this is the best advice anyone can give you.
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before anyone drops any more advice here to this user, please be aware that narrating the entire learning process for flashing makes you partially responsible for what happens to this users phone.
@dzesiu2002 i strongly advise you to do research on all of these topics before going any further. you could end up wasting a lot of your time or worse: breaking your phone.
research research research. for everyone's sake. i'm not trying to be mean. this is the best advice anyone can give you.
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This. Also, not trying to be rude and it's awesome that everyone is so willing to help, but I don't think spoonfeeding is the best option. OP has tons of questions (many that are simple and can easily be answered with self-research).
As the user I quoted mentioned, you should visit other threads that have instructions and information on flashing, encrypt vs. decrypt and so on!
WaxysDargle said:
before anyone drops any more advice here to this user, please be aware that narrating the entire learning process for flashing makes you partially responsible for what happens to this users phone.
@dzesiu2002 i strongly advise you to do research on all of these topics before going any further. you could end up wasting a lot of your time or worse: breaking your phone.
research research research. for everyone's sake. i'm not trying to be mean. this is the best advice anyone can give you.
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Man, i have much phones all of them always have custom rom and kernel, so i never brick the device... All rom, kernel have in own thread installation process and i going with it, newbie for sure will brick the device, if i flashed much devices without a break them, then really you still think im newbie ? Cmon in my thread in #1 post, i dont write " its my first time with flashing the device, am noob or something like that " Newbies having 100% understandable tutorial about unlocking BL, install TWRP or Root the device, but they still ask for help, did you see anywhere in OP5 section about i needed help with that ? First of all, im not stupid and know any flash is risk, but if device bricked then this is not the fault of the author of the topic, only it is the fault of the user who carried out the installation wrongly. This post is for you and means you have to post something like this in threads people who really are green and dont know anything about flashing.
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Man, i have much phones all of them always have custom rom and kernel, so i never brick the device... All rom, kernel have in own thread installation process and i going with it, newbie for sure will brick the device, if i flashed much devices without a break them, then really you still think im newbie ? Cmon in my thread in #1 post, i dont write " its my first time with flashing the device, am noob or something like that " Newbies having 100% understandable tutorial about unlocking BL, install TWRP or Root the device, but they still ask for help, did you see anywhere in OP5 section about i needed help with that ? First of all, im not stupid and know any flash is risk, but if device bricked then this is not the fault of the author of the topic, only it is the fault of the user who carried out the installation wrongly. This post is for you and means you have to post something like this in threads people who really are green and dont know anything about flashing.
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i am NOT calling you stupid. i AM definitely calling you a newbie.
the questions you have been asking are very rudimentary when it comes to flashing ROMs. regardless of your previous experience, it is still best that you do a lot more reading. this obviously isn't what you want to hear, but it is as true as truth can be. if you don't know what encryption is, then you shouldn't be trying to work around it. you should be figuring out what encryption is in the first place.

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