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Sorry that this post won't be very thorough, I made a decently structured post but then my browser crashed and I lost it :|
Lol so my main point is that a lot of people have a g1, and I think the best rom/firmware for it was RC.29.
1.5 really slowed the phone down and made the boot time very long.
And 1.6....eh.[developer wise though, YES!]
I would really like to see a developer make a custom rom for the g1 that is very basic I don't need a rotating screen that 1.5 brought, and at most for an on screen keyboard I'd only like to see the t9 keypad and even that I don't care much for, my g1's hardware QWERY is a beautiful thing.
But yea a very basic rom with very minimal options/features so the g1 runs quick, clean, and mean developed by someone who knows how to make the g1 FAST!
I hope you can get the just of this, I understand someone is going to say this unless I announce it, why don't I stay at rc.29 if I like it so much? Because I like my apps working more.
So thank you for reading this, and hopefully this post gains a lot of ground and want so a developer could make this happen
Besides I would think that stripping features from a g1 wouldn't be too hard
[Lastly that was in my other post, why do we still need a video recorder app in the drawer when its so easy to switch to from the camera? ]

No one else is with me on this? Lol sorry I guess if you feel differently.
It's just that I know in an emergency if I needed to copy down a license plate number or make a call I know my g1 would lag so bad and not open up core apps like messaging or the dialer on time.

Icebergxx said:
No one else is with me on this? Lol sorry I guess if you feel differently.
It's just that I know in an emergency if I needed to copy down a license plate number or make a call I know my g1 would lag so bad and not open up core apps like messaging or the dialer on time.
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Eh I did notice that RC29 did run alot smoother because I had to unroot and return my phone. But I think it's a step backwards. Most people probably have forgotten what it was like and have moved on. Sorry bro.
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no offense... but i ran rc29 for about well about week ago it was not any smother infact it was slower and sucked my battery. i dont use screen ration you can disable it in spare parts and always use the hard keyboard and never have any widgets...although im thinking of messing with some (getting bored) but yeah dude run cm stables and over clock and bit ( like 348 to 568) and ur g1 will run smooth as butter. dont mess with swap and ect because i think it more trouble than its worth on cupcake (cough*)

jmon777 said:
no offense... but i ran rc29 for about well about week ago it was not any smother infact it was slower and sucked my battery. i dont use screen ration you can disable it in spare parts and always use the hard keyboard and never have any widgets...although im thinking of messing with some (getting bored) but yeah dude run cm stables and over clock and bit ( like 348 to 568) and ur g1 will run smooth as butter. dont mess with swap and ect because i think it more trouble than its worth on cupcake (cough*)
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Yea I am on the Cyan train, it seems that every other experimental build he puts out messes with my most needed app so I'm flashing all around. And it's ok no offense taken but I genuinely thing a stock phone at rc29 is super fast, I have had this experience and so has some of my other Android buddies on other forums.

Icebergxx said:
Yea I am on the Cyan train, it seems that every other experimental build he puts out messes with my most needed app so I'm flashing all around. And it's ok no offense taken but I genuinely thing a stock phone at rc29 is super fast, I have had this experience and so has some of my other Android buddies on other forums.
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i was thinking about this you would like use a ota rc29 right but have roted goodness right? things like apps to sd and and also having a lot of apps on phone can slow it down. and idk when i was using rc 29 becase i wanted to see if there really was any improvement and i was having to send the phone becase the mic went out. i had alot of forecloses in the stock messaging app i cant think of thing that would be running in the back ground on cup (that you cant disable or not use) that would slow it down. but you are right the original over clocked jf 1.5 was really slow at least when i tested it with neocore got repeatably worse frame rates. but with cm 1.5 builds with over clock to the same speed i got faster up frame rates and ran rc 29 for the heck of it and got the same as did on jf 1.5.

jmon777 said:
i was thinking about this you would like use a ota rc29 right but have roted goodness right? things like apps to sd and and also having a lot of apps on phone can slow it down. and idk when i was using rc 29 becase i wanted to see if there really was any improvement and i was having to send the phone becase the mic went out. i had alot of forecloses in the stock messaging app i cant think of thing that would be running in the back ground on cup (that you cant disable or not use) that would slow it down. but you are right the original over clocked jf 1.5 was really slow at least when i tested it with neocore got repeatably worse frame rates. but with cm 1.5 builds with over clock to the same speed i got faster up frame rates and ran rc 29 for the heck of it and got the same as did on jf 1.5.
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As a friendly gesture, tomorrow or the next I am going to load up the dreaming.nbh file in Bootloader and play around with the stock apps and I will get back to you with friendly results.
And I am going to try out Handcent before 1.5
And Twidroid.
My main frustration is just that if someone rear ends me and try's to run via driving I'd love to be able to snap a photo ASAP or break out the messaging app and write down the plate number, my phone lags so much [in my mind at least] I feel I'd rather have a very dimmed down Rom that can support apps on the 1.5/6 firmware.
Well see though :]
I know a lot of mods can fix my problems and some slow them down, but it leans more so on the class of the sd card really.

Icebergxx said:
As a friendly gesture, tomorrow or the next I am going to load up the dreaming.nbh file in Bootloader and play around with the stock apps and I will get back to you with friendly results.
And I am going to try out Handcent before 1.5
And Twidroid.
My main frustration is just that if someone rear ends me and try's to run via driving I'd love to be able to snap a photo ASAP or break out the messaging app and write down the plate number, my phone lags so much [in my mind at least] I feel I'd rather have a very dimmed down Rom that can support apps on the 1.5/6 firmware.
Well see though :]
I know a lot of mods can fix my problems and some slow them down, but it leans more so on the class of the sd card really.
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i hope to see what your results are. im really going to start looking into raw performance. when ever i can get some free time.

I'm back on rc.29 and I really like it, the only draw back to this is that apps I could pull up on 1.5 won't pull up now.
Like I can't pull up twidorids legacy edition thats >1.5
Or handcent
or chomp.
And it's kind of strange :/
I guess I should of prepared better and downloaded them before hand so they'd be in my history. [and no not even clicking view more apps from twidorid pulls up the legacy]
But the phonebook replacement app is there and it works very well.
Just over all a clean UI I love it.
The notifiation bar is solid, and personally it feels faster than an overclockecd cyan build to me.
Swiping between screens, pulling down notifications, the app drawer, opening and closing the screen.
And overall it's just so benificial.
When I'm in the market and I slide my phone open to type then go ahead and close it and search or search while open then close it it doesn't do that stupid **** that 1.5 does where it sets you back one action.
For example lets say I put in handsent.
That's wrong, nothing should pull up.
So ok go back, open the keyboard type in handcent and handcent pulls up, or cool.
Close the phone and it goes back to my results for handsent.
HOW LAME!
I haven't gotten the browser to auto refresh yet due to the lack of internal memory and cache issues, mind you I only have stock apps, but I've navigated between the market and messaging/texts which is already more then impressive compared to lock 2.0 almost clearing the cache and refreshing anything when used.
I love r.c. 29 and so should you, that's just the most bottom, factual, content buyer/consumer happiness attitude there is about the g1.
It's time a dev makes a rc.29 rom that can run 1.5/1.6 apps without adding fancy animation, onscreen keyboards and all that junk.
I might be interested in updating to rc.33 but I have never had luck finding that .zip file so if anyone wants to help out post it here please.
Going to see how well my battery does, it normally never last me more then 6 hours, usually craps at at 4 hours :/
But we shall see!

I tried to upgrade to stock rc.33 but the .zip was too small and failed to instal properly, so I used another .zip and apparently it was a JF rom for 1.5
It loaded fine, installed the radio, then did a few quirky things.
Kinda disappointing that I couldn't get to rc.33 but that's common for me lol.

Icebergxx said:
I tried to upgrade to stock rc.33 but the .zip was too small and failed to instal properly, so I used another .zip and apparently it was a JF rom for 1.5
It loaded fine, installed the radio, then did a few quirky things.
Kinda disappointing that I couldn't get to rc.33 but that's common for me lol.
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just a grab a modded rc-33 from koush's guide to rooting. its not stock, but eh

What I feel about Arc after 2 weeks use

I am coming from almost 1 year use of X10a and even tried Galaxy SII after a week with Arc and sold SII mainly because I hated AMOLED colors and Samsung design and UI.
When I first got Misty Silver Arc (flashed LT15a) into my hands I was excited as the phone looked simply stunning. Felt great in hand.
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Now, after two weeks of use I have very mixed feeling and I am already trying to look for what is out there that looks good and performs like GSII. Atrix? Not sure!!
Pros:
1. Screen
2. Looks (design) & Feel.
3. Gingerbread
4. SE UI
5. Camera
Cons:
1. Phone starts to lag once you install some widgets, and install basic apps. I am almost seeing very minimal gain from my X10 in performance once I install my standard apps/widgets.
2. Camera button is a joke. It's almost impossible to use without shaking the phone too much.
3. Too long. They could have tried and eliminated all that black area that has Sony Ericsson Logo.
4. The battery cover starts to feel squeaky in the middle area towards the side that has volume rockers. I had to put small tape inside to stop that feeling.
I might have to root and remove some pre-installed crap and see how the phone performs. Else, I am seriously thinking to sell the phone and maybe wait for something or go back to SGII and live with it's ugliness and fake colors on AMOLED. I just will have to wait for a good ROM for it as I couldn't stand the Samsung interface. It makes Android feel like their feature phone. I am also going to try and play with Atrix and compared it to arc. If the performance on Atrix is good, I might just get it as the phone feels solid and it at least looks better than GSII.
It amazes me how SE sc*$#s up with every phone in someway and I still end up owning them. With X10 it's the OS version and with Arc, lousy hardware specs. They should at least have provided more memory. I have a feeling they never tested Arc by installing any apps and widgets.
Apps/widgets I have installed - Go Contacts, Go Contacts Themes, Go SMS Pro, Go SMS Themes, Beautiful Widgets, Beautiful Widgets Animation, beautiful widgets themes, Widgetsoid, life.contacts, Amazon MP3, Amazon Appstore, Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Fruit Ninja, Swype, Astro, ESPNCricInfo, Business Calendar, Just Pictures, Yahoo Mail, Tripit, Opera Mini, Twitter, xda premium, and Yelp.
What I mean by Laggy?
I don't mean it's so slow to get annoying. It only felt laggy compared to what I experienced with GSII. It's not annoying but at times I find it annoying when the dialer takes almost couple of seconds to load or my SMS shows blank blue screen for almost 4-6 seconds. At that time, if I restart my phone it performs better. I stopped using Live wallpapers hoping it will help phone perform better. I remember the performance was not like this when i played with the stock ROM. I am not sure if playing with whatsapp screw'd up something. I will try to reflash and see how it behaves.
Update1: I re-flashed my Arc and it now works blazing fast. In the next few weeks I will try to find if any particular app I used caused the issue or it's just a limitation with Arc if you have several apps/widgets installed with over 300 contacts and lost of them with high quality photo image linked through SE UI instead of picking low quality one from GMail.
Update2: I installed most of my commonly used apps and I see no lag now. I suspect having three weather apps might have some cause for the lag before as they were alway setup to get weather updated. I used Beautiful Weather, Go Weather, and WeatherBug Elite. I had Beautiful weather setup to have animation on unlock too. Or it just could be one of the other apps which I am used to download everyday from amazon appstore.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "laggy"? I've got 8 or 9 widgets on my homescreen, phone still runs like it did out of the box. It's incredibly fast, I've had uptimes longer than you've owned the phone, and most of all, it works very well as a phone. The phone has 512MB of RAM, which means it runs smoothly and there's rarely any lag unless you're doing too many things in the background.
As for the battery door problem, my only comment is "I don't know what you're talking about." Camera button? Works fine for me, and I have a silicone shell over the button. If you're going to complain about a button, I'd recommend the awful power button. It's my biggest complaint about the phone.

Definitely agree on the creaky battery cover. Really detracts from the overall feel of the phone.
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iead1 said:
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "laggy"?
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I updated my initial post to explain what I mean by laggy.
I don't mean it's so slow to get annoying. It only felt laggy compared to what I experienced with GSII. At times, I find it gets annoying when the dialer takes almost couple of seconds to load or SMS shows blank blue screen for almost 4-6 seconds. At that time, if I restart my phone it performs better. I stopped using Live wallpapers hoping it will help phone perform better. I remember the performance was not like this when i played with the stock ROM. I am not sure if playing with whatsapp screw'd up something. I will try to reflash and see how it behaves.

I happen to own a LG Optimus 2x as well, if you want a phone fast like hell, just grab that one. Still I using my arc more as I love the design and colours better than on the LG.
After I deleted all the crap I don't use using titanium backup my Arc doesn't feel that laggy anymore, try that too....but still...the LG is faster...
Further on I do think both are great phones, but I wish there were more devs in the Arc section. At the LG section there are very good roms available. I know I shouldn't complain when I am unable to make something myself, but I just miss some nice roms I can try on my Arc.
Before getting another phone, just search here on the forum for complaints, I think in every section at XDA on every phone you will find some cons. It's just to decide which con is important for you...

iead1 said:
If you're going to complain about a button, I'd recommend the awful power button. It's my biggest complaint about the phone.
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I hate the small power button as well. But since I use Widgetsoid and there is Lock Screen option, I never had to use the button (except to reboot, which I seldom do).

hush66 said:
I hate the small power button as well. But since I use Widgetsoid and there is Lock Screen option, I never had to use the button (except to reboot, which I seldom do).
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Agreed.
Power button and camera button could have been better.
You can use the same widget to reboot as well if you are rooted.
I use the screenoff software which gives you some kind of effects when switching off

prathaban said:
You can use the same widget to reboot as well if you are rooted.
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I am aware of that but I am afraid that I may accidentally hit the option, causing my phone to reboot when I had no intention to do so.

I have 9 screens & 21 widgets & phone is as fast as it was out of box.. Rooted & removed crap apps though I can't compare it with SGS2 as i don't own it, but SGS2 ca be faster (due to memory & dua core) but Arc is not laggy

There is a "what can we remove" thread here. It's a good start but there can also be other reasons for laggyness.
Removing programs you don't use and clear unused programs data and killing non-active tasks can speedup you phone, sometimes

I haven't had such "lag" issues.
Maybe you removed something that affected phone aswell.

I come from an iphone 4 and sometimes i found the phone a bit laggy but overall it's a great phone and i love the screen so much ! And i'm glad to finally haver something that note everybody have.

whocancatchme said:
And i'm glad to finally haver something that note everybody have.
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Yeah, this is something good to brag about! Plus, there isnt any phone that captures better pictures than arc!
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Sorry double post

I just re-flashed the stock ROM and the phone flies. I am going to first root it and remove lot of crap I don't need and then install one app a day to see which one made things 'a little' laggy.
I also suspect if having high quality images for contacts might be the culprit. I remember I had that problem with X10. If SE is scaling down the resolution when it crops, that shouldn't be a problem.

Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.

rumy said:
Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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I am using whatever came with Arc. I didn't check the class but it is 16GB card.

kitsVA said:
I am using whatever came with Arc. I didn't check the class but it is 16GB card.
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Class 2, the lowest

By the way how can we know the class we had of mscard ?
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rumy said:
Could it be possible that you are using a slow SD card? I use a class 6 16GB and dont have too much of a lag.
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Very unlikely to be the cause. Class of an SD card really only affects how fast you can write to it, read speeds are generally extremely fast regardless of class.

Is CM7 too good?

So I just got CM7 beta installed and the communications lady at my place of business comes to my desk and says "Oh, you have the Atrix? Do you want me to order you a lapdock for it?"
Sucks to be me, right?
I had her order the thing because we are doing a lot of cool stuff with citrix receiver and how awesome would it be if I could have an atrix running Windows via citrix reciever
But now -- I cant bring myself to remove CM7. I've thought about it many times.
I've been in recovery with my finger hovering over the button to flash back to stock GB
But I love CM7 too much. I don't want to go back to blur.
It would be like -- having an Atrix and the someone telling you you had to use this HTC Incredible 2 instead.
I think I have the solution. I am going to go back to the communications lady and request a 2nd Atrix -- for testing purposes only of course.

capnsouth said:
So I just got CM7 beta installed and the communications lady at my place of business comes to my desk and says "Oh, you have the Atrix? Do you want me to order you a lapdock for it?"
Sucks to be me, right?
I had her order the thing because we are doing a lot of cool stuff with citrix receiver and how awesome would it be if I could have an atrix running Windows via citrix reciever
But now -- I cant bring myself to remove CM7. I've thought about it many times.
I've been in recovery with my finger hovering over the button to flash back to stock GB
But I love CM7 too much. I don't want to go back to blur.
It's would be like -- having an Atrix and the someone telling you you had to use this HTC Incredible 2 instead.
I think I have the solution. I am going to go back to the communications lady and request a 2nd Atrix -- for testing purposes only of course.
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Yeah, that or sell the laptop dock
Webtop will most likely be working once the dev team release a RC build. But who knows how long that may be.
What company do you work at, where they just hand out laptop docks? that's awsome.
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Swiftks said:
Yeah, that or sell the laptop dock
What company do you work at, where they just hand out laptop docks? that's awsome.
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Can't sell it since it's technically a company asset.
I won't broadcast the exact company for CYA reasons, but I will say that I work in IT at one of the major American Pizza corporations.
Free pizza + Free tech = winning combo

cool story bro

sanriver12 said:
cool story bro
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How long have you been waiting to say that to someone?

Flash Aura!..............Fantastic ROM!

capnsouth said:
How long have you been waiting to say that to someone?
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Since he saw it in another post.
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Seriously, I have the same problem. I keep going back and forth.
I like CM7, but I actually miss some of the crap that Moto put in the Atrix rom. And the webtop. Most of the time it's fairly useless, but when I need it, it's golden. And the Citrix Receiver is awesome, I have fun explaining to everyone that the phone is the laptop (just like those stupid ads).

stewartsoda said:
Citrix Receiver is awesome, I have fun explaining to everyone that the phone is the laptop (just like those stupid ads).
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+1 for citrix receiver being awesome. People are blown away when I launch photoshop in 3 seconds because its being run by a quad core xeon with 16GB Ram

Clienterror said:
Since he saw it in another post.
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capnsouth said:
Free pizza + Free tech = winning combo
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OMFG. Do you have job openings? I can do marketing. Will work for free tech and free pizza.

I don't see what the CM7 rave is all about. I've had too many Android phones to list and I tried CM on all of them. It serves a good purpose for phones which are slow to get updated or don't have any good custom roms, but I don't see the purpose with the Atrix as I felt the same way with the Evo and Evo 3D. The loss of certain functionality isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't have a lapdock, but being able to go somewhere and plug in the HDMI and have an easy no nonsense way of playing music, videos and pictures. Motoblur is not intrusive either like Sense can be at times.
I'm just offering my opinion and not trying to start an arguement, but I truely want to know why so many people "must" use it. Am I missing something? I used it for two days until I went to watch a movie and only had HDMI mirroring with no landscape support. I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.

For informations, I really like that
Searching the web and accompanying the operation with a friend, I see that there are some outstanding issues to resolve, as the case of battery and FM radio. But, in the future, I wish to install on my Xperia X10 Mini Pro.

rquinn19 said:
I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
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CM7 just seems snappier, Im guessing because there are fewer processes running. That being said, I ran Alien prior to CM7 and I have been running Alien ever since I originally posted this (i caved because I really wanted to try out the lapdock) and I agree, That rom is very fast compared to the stock GB, thanks to kennethpen's work.

Keep in mind its still beta
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rquinn19 said:
I don't see what the CM7 rave is all about. I've had too many Android phones to list and I tried CM on all of them. It serves a good purpose for phones which are slow to get updated or don't have any good custom roms, but I don't see the purpose with the Atrix as I felt the same way with the Evo and Evo 3D. The loss of certain functionality isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't have a lapdock, but being able to go somewhere and plug in the HDMI and have an easy no nonsense way of playing music, videos and pictures. Motoblur is not intrusive either like Sense can be at times.
I'm just offering my opinion and not trying to start an arguement, but I truely want to know why so many people "must" use it. Am I missing something? I used it for two days until I went to watch a movie and only had HDMI mirroring with no landscape support. I must say battery life and performance was great, but it's not bad on Alien rom either though.
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Completely agreed. I admit I use it for phones like the BACKFLIP and the CLIQ XT. Phones that are slow and buggy stock and need to be cleaned up or have major driver/coding issues. But the atrix? Stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated is an absolute dream: silky smooth, insanely fast, and 20 hour battery life. And lapdock STILL works.
I think it's kind of like Google Chrome or Firefox. Even though IE9 flies and does everything correctly on win 7 ultimate x64 and a quadcore with a good graphics card...people still use Chrome or Firefox. Just that whole rebellious don't let the man put you down type mentality.

againareku said:
Completely agreed. I admit I use it for phones like the BACKFLIP and the CLIQ XT. Phones that are slow and buggy stock and need to be cleaned up or have major driver/coding issues. But the atrix? Stock 2.3.4 rooted debloated is an absolute dream: silky smooth, insanely fast, and 20 hour battery life. And lapdock STILL works.
I think it's kind of like Google Chrome or Firefox. Even though IE9 flies and does everything correctly on win 7 ultimate x64 and a quadcore with a good graphics card...people still use Chrome or Firefox. Just that whole rebellious don't let the man put you down type mentality.
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That and Chrome is a bizzillion times faster than IE, and a bizzillion times lighter on system resources than IE.... kinda like CM7
A BIZZILLION!!!!
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i like cm7 because chainfire runs perfect,
in all the others gb roms if i install the app every time i revert to portrait from landscape screen becomes crazy full of artifacts...
and of course booting up in less than 40 sec with 120 app installed...incredible!

Swiftks said:
That and Chrome is a bizzillion times faster than IE, and a bizzillion times lighter on system resources than IE.... kinda like CM7
A BIZZILLION!!!!
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except IE9 is so much better when it comes to css3 and gpu aided html5. and other than that, almost the exact same resources footprint. oh, and try twitter on chrome and look at your cpu load, then do it on ie9 and compare..also..ie9 doesn't change my registry, chrome does, in many ways, and they DON'T TELL YOU IT DOES.
if it's really about speed, opera destroys chrome, firefox, and IE.
and if it's about usability, I've never seen a better browser than safari.
can't really say anything about CM7. At this point I simply don't see why I want it on my atrix. the new blur launcher is way lighter than adw.

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except IE9 is so much better when it comes to css3 and gpu aided html5. and other than that, almost the exact same resources footprint. oh, and try twitter on chrome and look at your cpu load, then do it on ie9 and compare..also..ie9 doesn't change my registry, chrome does, in many ways, and they DON'T TELL YOU IT DOES.
if it's really about speed, opera destroys chrome, firefox, and IE.
and if it's about usability, I've never seen a better browser than safari.
can't really say anything about CM7. At this point I simply don't see why I want it on my atrix. the new blur launcher is way lighter than adw.
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The beauty of Android is that you don't have to use the packaged launcher if you don't like it. That goes for any ROM that packages a non stock Android launcher.
The nice thing about CM7, besides being one of the more popular ROMs, is that there are a lot of developers for it and in most cases it runs better than the stock ROM. When the vendor stops supporting the phone, the CM devs keep going.
I've used CM across 3 different phones and in all cases it was superior to stock, even on my Atrix which is still in beta. Now I do miss the fingerprint reader and having audio out work through the car dock but these will eventually get added.

Luv my note BUT things I hate (compared to iphone)

Luv the screen pen etc.
But samsung upgrade policy is archaic to say the least. I'm still waiting nearly a month since the german version has been released. At least give us the dates ...and what excuse could there be mines unlocked.and I dont really want to root it and lose the warranty.how come apple can update millions more in a single day ..come on samsung
Kies software is a joke up to five hours to back up and then it doesn't restore ( on the web thousands of people have the same problem.
Why can't I back up my phole phone inc memry card easily and fast.
Still not found a soft app for a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
Just my thoughts I would luv another brand with the pen etc.
It seems samsung looks after new customers only.
Just my thoughts
I have no loyaty to samsung
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magichoward said:
Luv the screen pen etc.
But samsung upgrade policy is archaic to say the least. I'm still waiting nearly a month since the german version has been released. At least give us the dates ...and what excuse could there be mines unlocked.and I dont really want to root it and lose the warranty.how come apple can update millions more in a single day ..come on samsung
Kies software is a joke up to five hours to back up and then it doesn't restore ( on the web thousands of people have the same problem.
Why can't I back up my phole phone inc memry card easily and fast.
Still not found a soft app for a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
Just my thoughts I would luv another brand with the pen etc.
It seems samsung looks after new customers only.
Just my thoughts
I have no loyaty to samsung
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Sounds like you shoulda stuck with the iphone, I don't see what benefits you would have coming over to android if you're not prepared to root and try ROMs, yes samsung is a joke, but I can honestly say I have never regretted leaving iOS for android once.........except when the phone hangs during A PHONE CALL!!!! you know the thing it was actually made for - making and receiving phone calls, Not a regular occurrence I must admit but quite an ironic defect of many new ROMs I've tried in the past, LOL

magichoward said:
Luv the screen pen etc.
But samsung upgrade policy is archaic to say the least. I'm still waiting nearly a month since the german version has been released. At least give us the dates ...and what excuse could there be mines unlocked.and I dont really want to root it and lose the warranty.how come apple can update millions more in a single day ..come on samsung
Kies software is a joke up to five hours to back up and then it doesn't restore ( on the web thousands of people have the same problem.
Why can't I back up my phole phone inc memry card easily and fast.
Still not found a soft app for a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
Just my thoughts I would luv another brand with the pen etc.
It seems samsung looks after new customers only.
Just my thoughts
I have no loyaty to samsung
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Plug your phone into a computer like you are used to and get your update.
Apple can update in a day because there are very few models.
Boot into recovery to back up to phone.
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You don't need to be rooted to use PC Odin to install the latest official ROM.
There are great keyboards out there...instead of just one on the iPhone. Look at Thumb Keyboard or Swiftkey. There is even an iPhone keyboard...gasp.
And since you don't want to root (you can unroot for warranty purposes and Samsung is none the wiser....) checkout MyBackup Pro in the market.

Samsung - a joke as a company?!?! Do us a favor and never, ever buy a Motorola phone. If you are going ballistic over a Galaxy, you'll kill yourself with a Droid...

you can just copy all the files from your sd to your computer very very very easily using a usb cable, have you never used a computer before? Or alternatively download dropbox and use that to back up your phone. Little bit of research about how android works might actually benefit you. About the updates, if you wanna get all the amazing features of android compared to iphone, you'll have to put up with the update schedules, but updates don't really matter on android you still have more functions that ios.

Wow ... cool it guys. OP is simply used to the apple way of doing things. Give him some time to explore the wonderful world of Android iam sure he'll start to love it.
OP please google a bit or check the play store you will find the solutions for all your complaints.
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I just checked your other posts, almost all of it is about Samsung not updating the note to ics.
Why do you want the stock ics so badly ?
Do you honestly believe that ics will solve all your problems magically?
Believe me stock ics is a can of worms that is better left unopened . (personal opinion pls don't flame me guys )
but If you are so desperate please flash any custom roms which suits your needs, I recommend paranoid

Just to add, since i got my note i have had to firmware updates. One to 2.3.6 and then the 4.0.3 update. This is since April. Now you tell me of any iphone that has had 2 updates in that timeframe. (including major updates like ics )....
And apple can update easier as in total there are only 5 phone's ,of which only a couple of model get the update. Think his many different droids there are!
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a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
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Please tell me you're having a laugh.... Have you never been on http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/ ?

i wanted new set of icons....with flashy colours...i just installed a ROM....and my friend has an iphone and he wanted to change the icons too....o]h wait...you can only change WALLPAPERS in that... thats AWESOME

ACTUALLY I have the Note and I have never rooted. I don't find it necessary. I have an application called Folder Sync, and what it does is it backs up my files every night (especially camera files, but you can set it up to your entire SD card) to Dropbox or SugarSync, it has a lot of options for providers. The benefit is that you don't manually need to connect to a computer or anything. You will always have your files synced up. I even have it so when I delete a file off of the server or my computer, it'll be reflected as well on the phone. I hated having to have to connect my phone to my computer every time I wanted to update a folder, sync something, or download something. Every night my phone waits until 4AM, plugged in and has wifi on to sync my 32 gig SD card with its content.
As for the keyboard, it might take you some time to, you know, actually get used to a normal keyboard. Apple had good autocorrect. But I'd rather take the more accurate typing space on the Note over the iPhone's smart predictive text. Apart from that, I have AutoText Replacements which means I can type ty and thank you will come out. I have "putmail" and my mailing address comes out. This is really helpful, and it can't be done on the iPhone, but yes on Android. Try Ultra Keyboard, that's what I use. Tons of themes, settings and it's fairly intuitive.
There are a lot of benefits to Android. If you're just angry about ICS not out yet in your region, I'm sorry, but many times it doesn't only depend on Samsung. It depends also on the carriers, which most bend over backwards for Apple only because they're what's hot and hip right now.
I'd say that if you're easily frustrated, stick to iOS. If you like to tinker a little, stay with Android. The possibilities are endless with apps and configurations.
Once again, I don't root because I think Android is open enough the way it is. You can download an original rom and install it without voiding your warranty, using PC Odin.
Foldersync link
Ultra Keyboard link

This is as close as Im getting to a rotten Apple
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Every night my phone waits until 4AM, plugged in and has wifi on to sync my 32 gig SD card with its content.
Once again, I don't root because I think Android is open enough the way it is. You can download an original rom and install it without voiding your warranty, using PC Odin.
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This won't give you full peace of mind compare to Rooted.
Agree, If you are noob then should avoid from custom things and playing of different mods.
There is nothing wrong to have rooted Note with rest of completely stock.
Here are some must reason to root (for me)
- Backup you are creating is just additional data, you can get it again once you have application installed on device. And this data is having rare chance to get delete. even you format(hard reset) this data still survives. Only thing which is better to have is backup of Camera (DCMI folder) which you can't get(here folder sync really need). But i do save it on ext memory card, so in case of anything goe wrong still it will escape.
Now if you are rooted, then you can schedule your backup tottaly different way. Like my system stuff backup will start three days of weeks at 4AM, which backup my contacts, SMSs or watever sytem data.
And rest of three days it backup all newer installed application + data (here you will get app + setting, after restoring even you don't need to enter credential, OR won't lose levels you have completed in games)
- What I need is google Maps, In my country still google don't providing me navigation (just direction), but with moded Map I can get it. And yes root is needed for that.
-Remove lots of bloatware from stock system
-Stoping unnecessary auto starting application on boot.
Reagarding warranty, anytime you can just flash stock ROM with PC Odin and your root will erase and you get warranty back

Android 7 V.S Android 6 in Real Life

Hi to every lucky body that get android 7 final.i made this topic to share your results in android 7 and compare with yours in android 6..like camera..battery..speed..tanx and hope to be usefull and active topic??????
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Well, it's a tiny bit snappier, and a tiny bit faster overall.
The battery is better; I get 3:45 to 4 hours SOT in auto brightness, full location services with wireless scanning, google now on, google cards on, hot word on from any screen... the full google experience, for short.
It's better than I had with a variety of mods and ROMs on Marshmallow.
I especially enjoy the new notification center. I can read numerous full messages and emails right from the notification slide. Quite awesome.
And I thank the gods of Google for removing the stupid enlarged tiles for Wireless and Bluetooth, the most annoying feature ever.

Battery is not bad for stock but I get the feeling with all mods and tweaks and kernels and such android M was a bit better...
But it would be unfair to compare those two as M has been worked on for a year now... N is fresh out of the box so let's wait and see how much battery can be improved.
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
Camera... And such... Did not really compare but would expect them to be similar...

Starship706 said:
Other than that N is very fluent and fast. Up to now also very stable and offers some important options that used to be mods some years ago.
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I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.

OhioYJ said:
I haven't tried N yet, but I was reading a comment on Slashdot that led me to believe, that it included something similar to CM13 privacy manager ? Is this true? Do you now get to choose what apps get access to? Can you block them from wireless, cellular data?
^ This feature alone made me upgrade the wife's and kids tablets from Nexus 7s to Nexus 7 (2013)s so I could put them on CM13.
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No, but you can do that from Data Usage in Settings, in M as well.

I've been using it for 2 days now. The doze feature is way better than that of M. I've noticed certain performance boost in games like asphalt 8 as the game used to lag after thermal throttling was active in M.
The usage is very very smooth, feels very light. I mostly love the quick settings panel as because it looks and is well organised than the previous version. It's just an initial build and its quite stable. I would say I am impressed and good to go with 7.0.
Well this was my perspective.

I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?

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I think charging while screen is on is improved. Can someone confirm?
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Not entirely sure... NExus 5x has quite some struggle with charging when screen on.
Under M there was almost no charging when screen was on and you did some browsing...
Might be slightly better under N... though I havent tested it long enough to confirm... Charging basically stopped when you used your phone constantly and not just for writing a text under M...

Nope, seems same like before.
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Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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Nightshadow931 said:
Nope, seems same like before.
Edit: it actually seems better, I'm using my phone on charger for about 10mins, and ampere measures around 1100mAh.
On MM it wouldn't go to more than 300mAh while screen on.
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I tested it while playing a game (8 ball pool, not a resource intensive app) and the percentage went up atleast 2 to 3 % in roughly 5-10 minutes. It seems that it is improved. But we still need someone to look through the kernel's code or run a reliable test!

I have it on my 5x since it dropped was on dp5 before that. Official seems smoother don't really use the 5x since I got the s7.

I'm actually seeing what seems to be worse battery performance. I've eliminated a few apps that were troublesome, but it looks like the battery is draining faster than on "M". I'm hoping that it's simply a problem with the crappy cell signal in my office - my connection bounces between 27 different towers and it's still crappy at best.

Atleast for me, I can confirm that charging while screen on is finally fixed. Hail hydra!

As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.

lightningdude said:
As previously stated, it feels a lot snappier and lighter being on Nougat as opposed to Marshmallow. Quick Settings are better overall, especially when you're able to add custom quick tiles via apps in the Play Store. Only complaint about the Quick Settings is that the Wifi and Bluetooth used to toggle on press, then open mini settings when you clicked the text. Now it just opens mini settings. I can get used to that, though.
Oh, and I still hate the white background in the settings app. Haven't found any Layers themes that work well yet. If anybody else finds one, let me know.
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Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.

new useful features, more usr friendly interface, for me - good change

enzo_cz said:
Just rooted the final N and put Substratum and Mono Theme on. Settings awesomely dark with other theme goodies.
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How did you get Substratum working?

bhs73 said:
How did you get Substratum working?
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Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.

enzo_cz said:
Upon getting my phone rooted I downloaded it from PlayStore, installed, did the permissions, insalled Mono theme and that was it.
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Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.

bhs73 said:
Oh, that easy? Thanks man, I owe you a beer.
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Important, there are sorta probs about Substratum and Android N, such as make sure you wont apply it to Chrome and Documents for example. You'd get instant force close. And if there's any other app like that, you need to make sure it is off the list to get themed.