hi
this tablet is amazing and its tegra k1 support's OPENGL and CUDA
this would be great if someone can port ubuntu touch for it
imankhamse said:
hi
this tablet is amazing and its tegra k1 support's OPENGL and CUDA
this would be great if someone can port ubuntu touch for it
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I synced ubuntu touch the other day thinking about it but then I seen how complicated ubuntu touch has gotten you have to do a lot of modding and since no other developers have the tablet are interested I fear I don't have time to send out tons of test builds and reading logs. I won't get my device until December so by then development should pick up
Any development in porting Ubuntu to the Shield Tablet?
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Now that we have kernel source... anyone see Ubuntu in our future?
I have unbuntu on my pc and in process of partitioning he for mac os x install 3 OS why not
Well, ubuntu netbook edition 10-10 would be the perfect candidate, but it seems someone already beat us to the punch:
http://techietonic.com/an-ubuntu-netbook-os-tablet-pc-edition-2011-the-tenq-p07-specs-features/#respond
If we could find a somewhere to download that version of ubuntu netbook, all the basic tablet specific work has already been done, might just need a couple tweeks. I have personally had no luck to even find the company's website though.
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Well, ubuntu netbook edition 10-10 would be the perfect candidate, but it seems someone already beat us to the punch:
http://techietonic.com/an-ubuntu-netbook-os-tablet-pc-edition-2011-the-tenq-p07-specs-features/#respond
If we could find a somewhere to download that version of ubuntu netbook, all the basic tablet specific work has already been done, might just need a couple tweeks. I have personally had no luck to even find the company's website though.
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That does not apply, there are no hardware similarities between an android tablet and that one other than form factor.
That machine uses an Intel Atom processor, ubuntu install image on a usb drive and you're pretty much done on that one. Not so much for us.
I see now why the lack of Linux support for Tegra tablets...
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/linux-support-becoming-unsupported
(follow the link in his post for some udated info)
Its sad, but between the Honeycomb delays, and Linux being put on the back burner, we have very limited choices at the moment. Ultimately I would like to have Linux on my A7 too, as long as its not uncomfortably slow with only 512MB DDR2 RAM. It looks like Meego might be the distribution to watch for any kind of prebuilt distributable images, at least they have some big players still on board for backing, and they support a variety of platforms.
If you have access to the Nvidia Tegra 250 Developer kit, you could try building a custom Gentoo distro. I really like Gentoo for its configurability options, but honestly, I'm afraid of bricking my A7 with one little mistake.
Android still uses a Linux kernel though, so with kernel source and ability to compile for the tegra chip progress will not grind to a halt. Things just unfortunately won't move along as quickly as most of us would like.
I think a modified version of Ubuntu NBR would run fairly quick on an a7 though.
After some more digging around on the Nvidia Developers forum, I tracked down a few "work-arounds" to install linux...however, please note that most of these posts are very dated.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/workaround-run-ubuntu-now
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/fedora-12gnome-running-tegra
http://www.elinux.org/Installation_Detail
I would dare to call this post, "Instructions for the Brave".
After reading those it does sound like we could have a unbuntu os
Hey guys,
as some of you may know, it shall be possible to run Ubuntu on the EeePad Transformer (for those who don't know, look here for instruction). Even though, it doesn't boot natively (yet), it should be a full Ubuntu.
Does anyone of you made some (performance)tests with that? Here are some things, I would really like to know:
- How is performance/ usability in general?
- How "usable" are programs like OpenOffice, internet browsing or maybe IDEs like Eclipse?
- Is the keyboard dock fully supported?
- Is it possible to use an USB-Mouse in Ubuntu?
- Is it possible to "switch" between Android / Ubuntu?
- Is it possible to use Ubuntu 11.04 - with all of the touchscreen features?
If some of you would make some tests (maybe with a video), it would be realy awesome!
I think I'm not the only one who is really interested in these things.
Since I'm going "back" to college, I need a device (cause I can't afford 2 ), that can handle all of those basic things you need in college.
Thanks a lot guys!
Apparently I was wrong before. It should be possible to boot in ubuntu. See here and here for instruction. In genereal it deals with ubuntu on tegra 2 platform.
But before dual-boot is possible, I'd rather choose the VM.
Doesn't anyone tried ubuntu on the Transformer?
Are you sure you linked the right article?
You're right, I forgot to post the second article. I edited my post, those instructions are more general for tegra 2 devices. Don't know why I mixed these things up.
Well, I couldn't resist Just ordered one. I'll keep you guys updated on the ubuntu thing, gonna make some tests when I got mine.
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Well, I couldn't resist Just ordered one. I'll keep you guys updated on the ubuntu thing, gonna make some tests when I got mine.
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Thanks...anyone know if running Ubuntu will mean we can play mkv's??
adam18488 said:
Thanks...anyone know if running Ubuntu will mean we can play mkv's??
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It could be done but Tegra2 is not in to movies
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Well, I couldn't resist Just ordered one. I'll keep you guys updated on the ubuntu thing, gonna make some tests when I got mine.
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Well? How is it going with ubuntu? I'm searching some benchmarks or at least users feelings about ubuntu performance on transformer.
BTW which one do you have? Tf201 maybe? I'm going to buy one. I would wait for tf700t but do not know if I can wait that long...
Why do you do chroot when here is native Ubuntu > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191141 ?
Everyone knows Ubuntu Phone OS will make debut soon! SO far I've been highly amazed by Ubuntu Phone OS. It's the ideal phone OS. Heart of a desktop PC & look of a phone OS My question is are our developers interested enough to work on this OS to port? If not, then I've the following idea. Ubuntu OS will work by default with a wide range of devices. (Just like every PCs can run Ubuntu..Their target is to give the option for every Android users to install Ubuntu on their device). But Atrix has some disadvantages for nvidia tegra 2 ap20h chipset.
I've made a request to Mark Shuttleworth to not to overlook our Atrix 4G here.As we are now stuck & little hope of ICS/JB, option of Ubuntu OS will be great for us. But as Atrix 4G uses an unique Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H chipset, Ubuntu Phone OS may not work by default. The Ubuntu Phone OS developers may need to write additional codes to support our Atrix.
If you want Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix 4G please head over to this page & vote up my comment. (Saif Hassan). It will make him notice & hopefully we'll be able to say Hello to Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix.
NB: It's not Moto. So you can do it without hesitation
saiftheboss7 said:
Everyone knows Ubuntu Phone OS will make debut soon! SO far I've been highly amazed by Ubuntu Phone OS. It's the ideal phone OS. Heart of a desktop PC & look of a phone OS My question is are our developers interested enough to work on this OS to port? If not, then I've the following idea. Ubuntu OS will work by default with a wide range of devices. (Just like every PCs can run Ubuntu..Their target is to give the option for every Android users to install Ubuntu on their device). But Atrix has some disadvantages for nvidia tegra 2 ap20h chipset.
I've made a request to Mark Shuttleworth to not to overlook our Atrix 4G here.As we are now stuck & little hope of ICS/JB, option of Ubuntu OS will be great for us. But as Atrix 4G uses an unique Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H chipset, Ubuntu Phone OS may not work by default. The Ubuntu Phone OS developers may need to write additional codes to support our Atrix.
If you want Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix 4G please head over to this page & vote up my comment. (Saif Hassan). It will make him notice & hopefully we'll be able to say Hello to Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix.
NB: It's not Moto. So you can do it without hesitation
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In terms of hardware, we're just above what they consider "entry level" (see http://9to5google.com/2013/01/02/ub...cted-to-ship-in-early-2014-based-off-android/)
So far we know that the OS is based in Android but without Dalvik and that it will use Android kernels. While that's great in terms of porting to existing devices, that may be an issue in terms of updates, as the Achilles heal of updates for Android is the kernel more than anything else.
Edit: Somewhat more detailed specs here
The Tegra 2 is classified as the 1Ghz Cortex A9, but our device does have more memory. The part that may be cause for concern is that the minimum requirements for Ubuntu Phone OS suspiciously fall in line with ICS minimum requirements.
I was thinking the same thing, we don't have fully stable ics-jb but maybe we can get fully stable ubuntu.
Update: just +1, hope he see it
Desde mi MB860
Lexord said:
I was thinking the same thing, we don't have fully stable ics-jb but maybe we can get fully stable ubuntu.
Update: just +1, hope he see it
Desde mi MB860
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We need more +1s to make him notice!
Lexord said:
I was thinking the same thing, we don't have fully stable ics-jb but maybe we can get fully stable ubuntu.
Update: just +1, hope he see it
Desde mi MB860
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Depends on what the kernel requirements are. The thing is, the display server can have a minimum kernel requirement, yet there is no information regarding what display server is going to be used. This makes it impossible to know if any applications written will be compatible, and without applications, your smartphone is just a dumbphone with an expensive data plan.
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We need more +1s to make him notice!
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You may have better luck in the Ubuntu Phone OS section of the forums. What you need is a thriving hub of activity, but what we have here is more like a retirement community.
However, I think that you'll find that if we want the OS on our phones, it's going to be a community effort that gets it there. If they'll be releasing readily install-able images, it's more likely that they'll target devices still in production rather than devices that have been out of production as long as ours has, especially considering the increasing number of hardware failures. To put it in perspective, Ubuntu's Unity DE currently relies on Compiz, which in turn is maintained by 1 guy, Sam Spilsbury, who left to pursue his education.
saiftheboss7 said:
Everyone knows Ubuntu Phone OS will make debut soon! SO far I've been highly amazed by Ubuntu Phone OS. It's the ideal phone OS. Heart of a desktop PC & look of a phone OS My question is are our developers interested enough to work on this OS to port? If not, then I've the following idea. Ubuntu OS will work by default with a wide range of devices. (Just like every PCs can run Ubuntu..Their target is to give the option for every Android users to install Ubuntu on their device). But Atrix has some disadvantages for nvidia tegra 2 ap20h chipset.
I've made a request to Mark Shuttleworth to not to overlook our Atrix 4G here.As we are now stuck & little hope of ICS/JB, option of Ubuntu OS will be great for us. But as Atrix 4G uses an unique Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H chipset, Ubuntu Phone OS may not work by default. The Ubuntu Phone OS developers may need to write additional codes to support our Atrix.
If you want Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix 4G please head over to this page & vote up my comment. (Saif Hassan). It will make him notice & hopefully we'll be able to say Hello to Ubuntu Phone OS on our Atrix.
NB: It's not Moto. So you can do it without hesitation
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Just Upvote you! I hope they can make it for us Atrix users too. Not that I'm not glad with my Paranoid Rom, but it not a 100% top Rom, thx to Motorola
Will see in the future what the guys from Ubuntu have to offer. :victory:
As its taking our community a lot of time to build 4.4 if it ever becomes possible i thought it would be a good idea to start a thread of ideas and any new information for other developments on the xoom.
The idea of this thread is to look to alternative sources of development for the Xoom!
This is what I have seen so far in terms of Ideas from sources other than Android:
IDEAS:
Chromium OS for Tegra (port using tegra 2 drivers)
Kernel based on tegra 2 Open Source Driver Project
Ubuntu Touch (half working port somewhere)
I have a feeling the open source driver could help with the Kernel for KitKat. ive been doing a lot of reading on kernels so i hope to do lots of experimenting =]
CONTRIBUTE HERE ANY IDEAS OR KNOWLEDGE I WILL ADD IT TO THE POST!
Files found for people to mess around with
FOUND NVIDIA TEGRA 2 AND 3 DRIVERS... i dont know if this is the source havnt had the chance to look but heres a zip (SOURCE: Linux for Tegra r16.3)
cousins
Devices that belong to our Xoom Family
Maybe some of the Xooms cousins which share the Nvidia Tegra 2 Gene can help us out !
(image wont upload so heres a link to Tegra Wiki)
XOOM TEGRA SPECS:
Tegra 250 AP20H (Ventana)... 300Mhz GPU.. the Tegra T20 (Harmony) has 333Mhz and appears to be the only difference... theres also the Tegra 3D Ap25 and T25 which have 1.2Ghz CPU's and 400Mhz GPU's
INCLUDES:
Motorola Atrix 4G
Moto Droid X2 (4.4 dev - i dont think its been successful yet)
Moto Photon (? never heard of this!)
and other brands
WIll be watching the Moto sources carefully then have a look at other manufacturers! (a good 15.. another 25 on the othe version of Tegra 2)
It would be awesome to have a Ubuntu touch port that could be used as a daily driver
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It would be awesome to have a Ubuntu touch port that could be used as a daily driver
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Yeah it would be nice, im looking at chromeOs for arm though if i could get a build working apparently Hexxeh got it ported to the nexus 7 which i believe uses tegra 4?
the main thing im looking at is porting things over from other Nvidia Tegra 2 based projects so anyone with any information on other devices with Tegra 2 give me a shout... any open source work may spark some ideas! =]
Trimslice
Well, this is a Fedora proyect, the CompuLab's Trimslice is a Tegra 2 device. I hope it helps you out in some way.
http://goo.gl/4ksYR2
http://goo.gl/jRHRk0
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Well, this is a Fedora proyect, the CompuLab's Trimslice is a Tegra 2 device. I hope it helps you out in some way.
http://goo.gl/4ksYR2
http://goo.gl/jRHRk0
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Thanks, I'll check out the links at lunch at work and add them to the main post I'm in the midst of buying a new machine for dev. Think its time to retire my pentium dual core! Outperforms laptop i3 and its over 8 years old and was cheap!!
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Thanks, I'll check out the links at lunch at work and add them to the main post I'm in the midst of buying a new machine for dev. Think its time to retire my pentium dual core! Outperforms laptop i3 and its over 8 years old and was cheap!!
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You're very welcome. Good luck.
Regards.
dasselflech posted this possible kernel source as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571074
The phone appears to have the same SoC.
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I'm willing to help test with my Xoom. Just picked up a Samsung Note 10.1 specifically so that I would be able to start tinkering with my Xoom. I may not be able to help develop, but I am somewhat comfortable with Linux and with flashing ROMs, etc.
I was just wondering if it was possible to port Ubuntu for this device.
It's almost as if the software is dead for mobile devices.
Can someone more knowledgeable in the field please enlighten me?
Merci
I would love to have full Linux as well...
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I was just wondering if it was possible to port Ubuntu for this device.
It's almost as if the software is dead for mobile devices.
Can someone more knowledgeable in the field please enlighten me?
Merci
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I was actually trying to build Ubuntu touch for my previous phone which was a motorola moto e2. Had to stop because I had my exams and then it's been half way ever since... And as per your question, Ubuntu is still based on a bit primitive kernel when I had last seen it. It's development has been turtle speed and nobody saw much of it. One major problem is that many apps are not yet developed for Ubuntu touch and canonical denied the support for Android apps as native apps run better and faster. So all in all, I will be good to have a Ubuntu touch but will be devoid of many useful apps available for Android. Would be nice to have it but after some time, I will get too bland as it will be basically a smartphone...with reduced smart features. That's why the community has seen less than 10 devices actually supporting the OS.
Thanks bro. Very clear and insightful.