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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 V Tegra 3 Device

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.

This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait

If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!

lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.

Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.

OmniNut said:
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.

i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead

perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.

dan0814 said:
If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.

I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.

I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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mramirezusa said:
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol

50-3 said:
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector

I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.

galtom said:
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.

poisike said:
As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(

galtom said:
Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.

Is the TF already close to being obsolete?

With the introduction of Windows 8 yesterday and announcement of a Tegra 3 device by the end of the year, are the TF's days numbered?
I had to return my TF thanks to a touch screen failure, still want to get another one but now am having doubts.
Technology is constantly upgrading and if I keep looking over the horizon, I'll never get anything, but it seriously sounds like Tegra 3 is close to coming out. Tegra 2 is actually two year old architecture afterall. I've done this before though, waiting a year for the Adam (which ended up not being too great) then another five months for the Transformer...which is actually pretty awesome.
The biggest issue I have with the TF is its weak video capabilities.
I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.

The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.

eallan said:
The end of the year is still six months away. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your TF. It's not like it's $1000 bucks either.
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$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.

newtybar said:
I think the Tegra 3 will solve this (this thing looks beastly, Lost Planet 2?!) with it's quad core muscle.
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See the thing is, when tegra 3 comes along, there will be another processor that obliterates it. so you just gotta take the plunge and enjoy what u have for now. or wait forever, lol

Windows 8 won't be released until next year, at the earliest.
Tegra 3 is sampling this month, meaning production runs and first consumer units probably wont hit the market until december, if that.
Obselete is a very strong word that's being bastardized.
My dual Pentium 2 setup is obsolete. My Core 2 Duo chip is not.

its hard to keep up with the newest and baddest, but i say as long you pick something that will fill YOUR needs, and gives you a good usage, then your fine.
Then , when your ready to upgrade, you look into what fits your needs at that time.
so yes, the tegra can easily be obselete soon, but is honeycomb? ASus? what about XDA development? 3.1 may not be the end for the TF..

You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it

newtybar said:
$700 for a 32gb, keyboard dock combo isn't cheap either.
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You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.

Ravynmagi said:
You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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That's not how we do things, have get the biggest and the baddest!
JK...that is definitely an option.

Ravynmagi said:
You could just spend $400 on a 16GB version and $20 for a 16GB SD card and even skip the keyboard dock if you like.
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This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
plus for me:
When the next tablet comes out, you can sell your TF (which is why you want to skin it, cover it, etc) and put that money towards the newest tab out there.
recycling!

echomatics said:
You will never win this war...
If you wait and get a Tegra 3 device, 4-5 months later you will be reading about the Tegra 4 devices coming Fall of 2012. If you like the TF and it meets your current needs then stay with it
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true tht
buyin electronics is a war you can't win...maybe if u have tons of cash to throw then knock urself out lol
dont worry be happy...with ur transformer

turbulent28 said:
This.
Personally i bought the TF for the tablet form.
I have a laptop, a netbook, and desktop at home.
for 700 you could easily find a netbook with more power ..
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You guys are all right, I'm taking the plunge again.
FYI - I do have a netbook/ultraportable with a lot more power. HP Dv2z that had a dual core AMD Neo X2 and Radeon with 512mb (NOT integrated). Bought it two years ago, one of the best hardware purchases I've made. The thing runs CODMW2 and SC2 no sweat. Pretty beastly for something so small.

Sorry I posted this....I was wrong.
Group hug everyone.
Now off for the hunt to find a TF.

It doesn't really matter. Right now there are only a handful of apps that make use of Tegra 2. By the time Tegra 4 comes out, there will probably be a healthy amount of Tegra 2 apps and 4 or 5 Tegra 4 apps. You are pretty much paying a big premium to play a couple of crappy games.

ASUS promised the dock would be compatible with future tablets and that alone is a smart move. I love the TF and it does what I need it to do, hardware-wise. The software is still suffering from a lot of issues but they will disappear soon. If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.

Welcome to the world of Technology....where things are obsolete before you even take it out of the box pretty much.
Newer are not always better. Just get what you need to meet your needs and go from there. If it fulfills them keep it.
Simple as that really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o

I got mine just to play with Android programming (I am a .Net guy). For 400 bucks is worth it.
Everything is always obsolete when it gets released. Otherwise, everybody would have the same stuff fro 30 years and no company would stay in business.

weak video capabilities? I was worried about the limitations of the tegra 2 processor, however got used to transcoding my videos and it makes no sense to put a 6 or 7 gb video on a portable device. After transcoding my films they are a Max of 2 gb and normally closer to 1 gb and the quality is excellent.
Would I wait for a tegra 3 device? Nope firstly because they will probably end up being delayed so you will end up waiting months longer than you like. Plus the core capabilities will always work on the transformer - web browsing, playing music, video playback (I would always transcode my videos now to save on space), gaming, reading books and now mags with zinio. Plus you can always pop it on ebay.

funnycreature said:
If you buy a tech device you have to be aware that the moment you turn it on it's not the newest on the market anymore.
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4D TV ??
You bought the Wrong TV sillyhead

Returning Xoom

I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.

Are you planning on getting a different tablet now?
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Definitely, but not now. I'm probably getting something Tegra 3, which is coming out probably in a few months. Also, I'm sorta mad at Google for not releasing Honeycomb Source, which severely hinders what we can do with development. I know that it isn't the fault of the devs; hell, we still got BRD's rom, but we didn't get as much development as I thought.

Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
See here

daveba said:
Well asus seem to have released 3.1 code so im not sure it's Google's fault ?
See here
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That's the kernel source, which Asus have to supply as it is GPL code.
It isn't the Honeycomb source.
Regards,
Dave

pianoplayer said:
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.
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Same here. I hated to return my Xoom but now I am trying out the Samsung Tab 10.1.

pianoplayer said:
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.
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I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.

Im also be selling mine. Its not about motorola that im dissapointed. its honeycomb. It just seems like no dev cares about it, not even google update theyre own apps to honeycomb. The market place for honeycomb is broken since day 1. Apps that i was interested in are region locked...(books,earth,maps navigation,video).
I was happy with my android phone even with 2.1 because apps that i like worked fine.Thats why i thought buying an android tablet with the latest firmware will be my next step but i was wrong.
At first i didnt like the ipad (it just looks like a big ipod) but they have apps that works, no region lock on books, music, videos , the game library is interesting... all those things that i forgot why did i choose android.

pianoplayer said:
I'm returning my Xoom, and I'd just like to thank all the devs for their hard work. I'm returning it since I'm not very happy with what Motorola's doing, with (still) no working SDCard. I know Tiamat does that, but my Xoom just ate up an SDCard Also, I'm not as impressed with Tegra 2 as I thought I would be, so that's basically why.
Thanks.
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Thanks for voiding the warranty, shortening the life span and then when custom software didnt work for you, returning the product. Those of us in the retail industry really appreciate it

I have both the XOOM and the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
After using the Galaxy Tab 10.1 my appreciation for the XOOM has increased tremendously. For whatever reason, the XOOM is smoother and more responsive - significantly so. Everything about the XOOM from build quality, to SD slot (at least it has one that can be made to work) seems better to me on the XOOM. And charging times on my GTAB 10.1 are horrific. I spend more time charging it than using it.
Oh, and something a lot of people seem not to have considered: for movie playback you are locked into the 4GB limit again with the GTAB 10.1 which means you are forced to limit the bit rate of your movies to make them fit. You can use as high a bit rate as you want on the XOOM as long as you store your movie on internal storage which has no 4GB limit. This means that many of the movies that you converted for your XOOM may not be usable on the GTAB 10.1 if they exceeded 4GB and you may be forced to re-encode them.
Only major advantage with the GTAB 10.1 is the screen, and to lesser degree the weight - and honeslty, unless you're an absolute movie buff, the XOOM screen is pretty good despite all the criticism.
I think a lot of the complaining is an excuse to aquire a new toy.

No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.

pianoplayer said:
No, I won't be getting the Asus or the Samsung, mostly for the same reasons as why I'm returning my Xoom. It's mainly because I'm not happy with Tegra 2 (that Samsung Exynos is pretty awesome IIRC) and that it's worth the wait of maybe 3 months.
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No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.

Digital Man said:
No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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Well there isn't many other choices atm for those who want a tablet NOW. I'm thinking about selling mine for $400 around Christmas for a newer tablet. My next tablet will atleast have the ability to play any video file I throw at it without conversion.

ElCamino said:
I also really loved the Motorola Xoom, but with it not officially supporting the microSD card I exchanged it and got the SGT 10. So far I really liking the SGT 10 feel and though it doesn't have some of the features I had on the Xoom or a MicroSD card slot. I will be keeping the SGT 10 as my 10" tablet.
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I hope you like your new tablet, but this makes no sense. How does returning a device because it doesn't have support for thesd card help if you replace it with a device that doesn't have an sd card slot?
That's kinda like cutting off your feet because your shoes don't fit.

Digital Man said:
No argument here. Tegra 2 is so bad it has made me re-think my choice of graphics processor in my PC - makes me start to doubt NVIDIA's quality in other devices. Just hope Kal El isn't another disaster. Really wish there were more choices. I think if Samsung had gone with Exynos and an SD slot, it would have swept the market. Ironically, they may have stuck with Tegra so they could support Tegra games and Netflix DRM. And we still haven't gotten Netflix anyway.
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What's so bad about tegra 2?
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msavic6 said:
What's so bad about tegra 2?
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Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.

I love my xoom, and it does what I expected it to do when I bought it. Does Motorola suck at software updates, yes. We all knew this from any other moto phone. That's why Google is good. Also, I have never noticed a shortage of devs on xoom. On games, well I have patience, there are more and more cool games released every day. The screen, well it is not perfect, but capable, same as the tegra chip.
So in short, I see how some may be disappointed, but in all reality, they shouldn't be. (unless they were not very smart and bought a 4g tablet, then you have every right to be disappointed about the lack of an upgrade)
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gotta return mines by July 11th, really gonna miss it and the developers have been the only reason i kept it this long. I'm sure their strong work is the reason many have held on to the Xoom.

Kippui said:
Lack of games
Try throwing 720p anime/movies on any t2 tablet..
I have a xoom and love it but I can't turn a blind eye to the issues that it has.
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Honeycomb is a new os and needs time to gain alot of apps aand games.
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The only valid argument in this thread about returning a xoom is the lack of support for other country with many google service, and this is not google fault it's company who are enforcing drm to the limit.
As for the sd issue, it will get fixed soon, I can understand an early adopter to be pissed off but if he managed to wait until now it's a matter of week now.
out of topic but I have a panasonic blue ray that have netflix installed, but it doesn't work in my country, can you believe this...
The screen on my unit is quite nice, not sure why some people complain.. so far I am happy with the xoom so I keep it, I have a 3 month return windows with costco, I will evaluate my option by then but so far it's a keeper!

should i buy a nexus 10? and when?

i was wondering if the nexus 10 really does have better hardware than my asus infinity tf700?... is the processor really better? graphics?, customer support is a huge issue too as asus is making me VERY angry.... also, about how long should i wait to let them iron out the issues with a new device before i buy one?

jason41987 said:
i was wondering if the nexus 10 really does have better hardware than my asus infinity tf700?... is the processor really better? graphics?, customer support is a huge issue too as asus is making me VERY angry.... also, about how long should i wait to let them iron out the issues with a new device before i buy one?
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Yes, it has better hardware. The Nexus 10 has the best hardware to date relative to other Android tablets. It falls short graphically compared to the iPad 4 but is more powerful in terms of the CPU.
As for the apparent performance of the Nexus 10, we won't know until people actually start to post their own reviews.
What issues do you speak of? Software-wise, it's an issue if you make it an issue. There will inevitably be hiccups here and there (as all Android devices do). If you don't mind that, then that's not quite an issue. If it is, you can simply just root it and iron our those issues yourself. Hardware-wise, there shouldn't be much of a difference whether you buy it now or later.
Buy it now or buy it later, the only thing that will be different will most likely be the price.

better hardware? not really sure about that but better software for sure. I buy this mainly because of the pure Android OS and the screen.
better buy it as soon as you can. the more you wait, the sooner the device gets outdated.

Not worth it at all - your TF700 is powerful enough, has just the right amt of pixels @ 1920x1080. It offers MicroSD support, fully functional dock with extra batter in it etc etc.
The only problem with all of ASUS Transformers is the dismal internal flash performance. Some are going so far as to reinstall the OS itself on microSD, via custom ROM, effectively forgoing built-in flash.

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better hardware? not really sure about that
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I'd say we can leave the difference in resolution aside, I personally would have been just as happy with "plain old full HD". That leaves us with:
a much faster CPU
a much faster GPU
much faster RAM with dual channel
much much faster internal storage
Better WiFi with MIMO
Bluetooth 4.0
The Infinity has its advantages in the docking station, SD support and battery life. Still I think it safe to say the N10 has better hardware.

jason41987 said:
i was wondering if the nexus 10 really does have better hardware than my asus infinity tf700?... is the processor really better? graphics?, customer support is a huge issue too as asus is making me VERY angry.... also, about how long should i wait to let them iron out the issues with a new device before i buy one?
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Since summer I was in a long waiting mode for a TF700 purchase by the end of this year, after many hours research I convinced myself that it will be the best buy, solid build, nice keyboard docking, fast enough, good look and feel.
But Nexus 10 comes out so I compared. Eventually I decided to go for the so-called ugly N10. Basically I trade off the beauty of typing for a slightly faster tablet which has the best and fastest software support (from xda).

problem with the infinity, is i cant stand asus, and with the current bootloader they make it unmodifyable without great risk, cant even use nvflash on it... so i think thats garbage... also, i dont care about keyboard support, the only time i would ever need a keyboard is when im at home where i can just have a bluetooth keyboard sync up... so id rather have something that didnt pander so much towards being used with a docking station
so.. with my asus if i sell it im probably going to take a $100-$150 loss when i pay to have it reflashed, and then sell it, i should just go ahead and purchase the nexus 10 before then

when theyre back in stock, of course... 16gb is in stock but im waiting for the 32

this threads killing me "should i buy this should i buy that!" !
How about do some readings. and do your home work. Readm is tons of info out there!

Forums like this can be a great source of answers when fellow posters are friendly. Nothing wrong with helping each other out? Sometimes discussion is more insightful than a flat review.
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I had the TF700 running Clean ROM with Data2SD. With a fast SD card, it worked well. As I have no real world use for the Keyboard Dock I returned the Asus for a few reasons, mainly being inside of my return window with Best Buy. If you don't have that option, i'm sure your Infinity will do just fine. That said, as soon as I can actually get the Nexus 10 in hand, i'll have a better idea of if I personally feel it was "worth it".
Some things to think about,
- ASUS bootloader unlocking tool apparently voids your warranty
- While Data2SD is great, the UH-1 cards aren't all that cheap
- From what i've read, FHD on the Tegra 3 is "pushing it"
- I officially purchased 5 (but actually opened 9, 4 while standing in Best Buy), for a variety of reasons. I'm not all that picky to begin with, so I had concerns of the screen lifting/moving after I had passed my return policy window.
As a previous owner of the Infinity, I intend provide an update on my view of the TF700 vs N10.

well ill be interested to hear how you compare the two... i dont have any use for a keyboard dock either, their usb adapter doesnt work well at all, and the power cord on the bottom makes it akward at times... but mostly, im just tired of the asus company, ive had a run of 3-4 of their products fail on me with questionable customer service experience... compare that to my acer hardware which seems to last forever... im just looking for a new direction after i give up on asus products... i think the nexus 10 will be a great place to start

well i had a tf300t that i sold to get a nexus 10 ,what is annoying is that asus is giving bootloader unlock and in some cases later on on hardware defect they blame the user (you need to give your serial etc in order to unlock bootloader and even if you relock they have your infos).
well in my point of view a google device is more flashable and not so strict on those terms.
also what i think is that soon devs will release apps on this resolution as in android dev kit there will be an emulator for it .
win win situation is to wait a little more to see what is on the horizon.
myself i bought nexus 10 upon release and i am waiting for it

dragonmasterx said:
well i had a tf300t that i sold to get a nexus 10 ,what is annoying is that asus is giving bootloader unlock and in some cases later on on hardware defect they blame the user (you need to give your serial etc in order to unlock bootloader and even if you relock they have your infos).
well in my point of view a google device is more flashable and not so strict on those terms.
also what i think is that soon devs will release apps on this resolution as in android dev kit there will be an emulator for it .
win win situation is to wait a little more to see what is on the horizon.
myself i bought nexus 10 upon release and i am waiting for it
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same thing happened between me and asus with the TF700T... anyone who has any plans to get full functionality from their tablet should just avoid asus entirely, theyre not worth the headache anymore... ill get a nexus 10 once theyre in stock again

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same thing happened between me and asus with the TF700T... anyone who has any plans to get full functionality from their tablet should just avoid asus entirely, theyre not worth the headache anymore... ill get a nexus 10 once theyre in stock again
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does anyone know if unlocking the bootloader on the nexus will void the warranty as well?

i assume its not possible to get a 16gb model and upgrade the storage later?. im guessing thats internal?

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does anyone know if unlocking the bootloader on the nexus will void the warranty as well?
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Google allows unlocking/relocking of the bootloader, and being a Nexus device I highly doubt Google will give you any grief about it.

[Q] Wait for next gen or buy Nexus 10?

Hey guys, just wondering if i should wait for the next generation of the Nexus 10 tablet or just buy this one. And any estimate on when the next one will be out? Because i can wait if necessary

There were rumors of the next gen, but then those rumors died down. I personally think the next gen wont be out till end of 2013

We know that the Nexus 7 is getting a new model this summer, no info yet as to the Nexus 10 but I doubt it will get an upgrade this quickly, the tablet only came out 5 months ago. I think the rumors were it would get an upgrade to the Exynos Octo processor, but those rumors were months ago and I doubt they had much truth to begin with. Either way it seems like if that ever was the plan, it isnt going to happen anymore
We may find out more info on the new N7 model, a possible N10 model, and probably the next Android version next month at Google IO

Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)

talha746 said:
Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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There are a lot of synthetic benchmarks around showing performance. The general consensus is that the processor is pretty darn good for the current gen. I'm sure there will be lots of releases in 2013 that will blow it out of the water. So future proof is a very hard thing to gauge. You might say that with the meteoric rise of ARM chips that you simply can't get a future proof mobile device at all.
In the real world I have found the power under the hood in the nexus to be great. I have no trouble watching full HD video and gaming is good too. Probably the final word on future proof from a mobile device is going Nexus. You wont spend ages sitting around waiting for OS updates and carrier updates and manufacturer updates.

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There are a lot of synthetic benchmarks around showing performance. The general consensus is that the processor is pretty darn good for the current gen. I'm sure there will be lots of releases in 2013 that will blow it out of the water. So future proof is a very hard thing to gauge. You might say that with the meteoric rise of ARM chips that you simply can't get a future proof mobile device at all.
In the real world I have found the power under the hood in the nexus to be great. I have no trouble watching full HD video and gaming is good too. Probably the final word on future proof from a mobile device is going Nexus. You wont spend ages sitting around waiting for OS updates and carrier updates and manufacturer updates.
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Alright and do you think its a good deal for $390? And hows battery life? Any roms to make the batter life better? Also if anyone knows, how much does it effect the electricity bill, probably less than a couple dollars a month right?

talha746 said:
Alright thanks for the replies, so i have an oppertunity to buy a nexus 10 for $400 from a local guy, should i take it? How is the dual core processor compared to a quad? Thats one of the things i was concerned about, and how long do you think this nexus 10 will be good for? (Futureproof)
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The amount of cores don't matter as much as the actual speed of those cores. When comparing the Exynos 5 Dual chip in the N10 against the Tegra 3 Quad-core chip in the N7, the Exynos 5 destroys it. The Exynos 5 is also a newer CPU architecture (A15) as well, and currently, there's either very few other devices, or none at all publicly available that have such a chip.
The N10 should go a good while (longer than the current N7 and N4) with how well it can run later Android versions, just due to the specs alone. Also this tablet was (may still be) the best device supported on AOSP (I think all hardware is open-source aside from 1 thing), which is nice for custom ROM's and Kernels.
Battery life is decent. It mainly depends on how you plan on using it though, but I didn't really have any complaints about mine.

So should i buy it for $390? And how can i get free books on it? Thanks a lot guys

talha746 said:
So should i buy it for $390? And how can i get free books on it? Thanks a lot guys
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If its in new condition I would buy it. I'm guessing its the 16gb version? Just make sure everything is working properly. It would also help if it came with a purchase receipt.
For books just download them in PDFs and transfer to your tab.
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