[Q] Porting Android Wear to old phone - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it possible to port Android wear to an old phone (sgs 1) to use as a smart watch and get updates over the bt connection?
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c-pimp said:
Is it possible to port Android wear to an old phone (sgs 1) to use as a smart watch and get updates over the bt connection?
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If the device has Bluetooth LE and the right specs it's quite possible. The wear devices run a form of android on the same type of hardware as cell phones and tablets (the LG G Watch, for example, has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 and 512MB of RAM inside).
However, it really depends on when the full Android Wear source is released and whether someone is interested enough to try porting it over. With the always-on display mode the battery life will probably be very, very poor.

c-pimp said:
Is it possible to port Android wear to an old phone (sgs 1) to use as a smart watch and get updates over the bt connection?
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Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww

Misho.20123 said:
Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Don't judge, (s)he may have a very good reason for wanting to do this, i.e. to learn more about how the Wear os runs on different shaped screens or to build one device into a dashboard for the car.
This is actually starting to sound fun now that I start to think about it.

I will try to port it!
jefftheworld said:
If the device has Bluetooth LE and the right specs it's quite possible. The wear devices run a form of android on the same type of hardware as cell phones and tablets (the LG G Watch, for example, has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 and 512MB of RAM inside).
However, it really depends on when the full Android Wear source is released and whether someone is interested enough to try porting it over. With the always-on display mode the battery life will probably be very, very poor.
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I will try to port it to htc chacha as long as the sources comes out..

tsukisan said:
Don't judge, (s)he may have a very good reason for wanting to do this, i.e. to learn more about how the Wear os runs on different shaped screens or to build one device into a dashboard for the car.
This is actually starting to sound fun now that I start to think about it.
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I've got two Sprint Samsung Galaxy Nexus phones (I'm a tech for Sprint, they don't fetch much money on buyback, and all my co-workers know I love the Nexus phones).
With AMOLED screens, those could be put to some great use with a Wear like system.

great idea
its a very great idea because i got x10 mini and i just want to install Android wear into it.
small phone + Wear interface = nice combo
Sincerely
8-Incher

So does anyone have a solution? I have an ALPS K8 Android Phone Watch (not a smartwatch, a phone on my wrist, not really that good), but if I can get it to run Android Wear, then it would be very useful.
I read somewhere that its possible to flash a custom ROM, to get Wear to run over the existing Android distribution, but I can't find a suitable ROM to flash it into.
Please help.

I was never able to find any solution, sorry.
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i´m sorry for my ignorance, but
what happens if i flash android wear stock system on an old phone ?

dj_PA101 said:
I will try to port it to htc chacha as long as the sources comes out..
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Has your port been working successful? Then i have a Domino DM368 Android 5.1 smartwatch... I want to install Android wear, Because stock standalone android system sucks at all on these watches

gioele 1334 said:
Has your port been working successful? Then i have a Domino DM368 Android 5.1 smartwatch... I want to install Android wear, Because stock standalone android system sucks at all on these watches
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I also bought the same watch, DM368, please also let me know about rooting the watch and making it compatable to android wear...

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[Q] MotoACTV and Android Wear?

So, as I have eluded to in the tittle, could Android Wear run on a MotoACTV, theoretically?
For those who don't know, the background of the MotoACTV is that it runs GingerBread 2.3.4, has Bluetooth LE, WiFi, 256MB RAM, etc... (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoactv for more info).
From my admittedly superficial look into Android Wear, I am assuming that the only hurdle here would be getting 4.4.2 or above running on the hardware?
im really excited about it hope motoactv receive a port of this os, altough i think it will not happen,
it will run on a 3.4 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51260100&postcount=1
no chances for our small beast
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on the other hand in the post i mencioned it says "<d:gl-version>2.0</d:gl-version>" if it is what i this it is (http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/opengl.html) maybe android 2.2 is the minimum version API level 8.
fingers crossed
mrmabs said:
So, as I have eluded to in the tittle, could Android Wear run on a MotoACTV, theoretically?
For those who don't know, the background of the MotoACTV is that it runs GingerBread 2.3.4, has Bluetooth LE, WiFi, 256MB RAM, etc... (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoactv for more info).
From my admittedly superficial look into Android Wear, I am assuming that the only hurdle here would be getting 4.4.2 or above running on the hardware?
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there s nothing yet about minimum requirement of AndroidWear it s on KK 4.4.2 and min API is 18 (JB 4.3)
there should be hack method for motoACTV to install custom rom on it
then need compatible ported AndroidWear
and ...
i think it s possible
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Motoactv development
Is there any motoactv development currently? or a forum for the device?
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Is there any motoactv development currently? or a forum for the device?
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if anyone needs a guinea pig here i am
Keeping my fingers crossed... would love to see some more options for this watch.
This would definitely be possible but whether anyone will invest the required time to do it or not is another question. The hardware in the MotoActv will be powerful enough to run Android Wear but without quite extensive work a lot of it wouldn't be compatible. I am aiming to bridge the gap in the meantime as I plan to work on a project to build a ROM with an Android Wear style experience (hopefully with ports of some of the actual Android Wear applications) on top the already functional Android Gingerbread base that we have.
I won't be able to start this properly for at least a month but I have ported the bootanimation from the LG G Watch system dump that was just leaked to help bring a very small part of the look and feel to the MotoACTV. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53150797
I have a motoactv as well and am taking great interest in seeing android wear brought to it, even if its just for me till all options are out (moto360, asus, etc) if no one wants to try to make it I guess I can try but I have no previous rom making skills, if anyone is interested in helping me figure this out please do so we can get this going!
i too will participate in testing - this would be awesome! the motoactv should have been what all these smart watches build off of. i wish the new smartwatches had standalone GPS.
I have a motoactv, count me in too for testing!
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I have a motoactv, count me in too for testing!
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i'm next!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
P.S. Any suggestions to solve the Motoactv.com sudden death? Where to save our workouts?
I have a Motoactv and would be willing to participate also, but why would you really want to use it with the Motoactv?
I was pretty sure Wear was pretty highly dependent on the microphone for Google now. In theory you could use a Bluetooth headset, but Google now was meant to use your phone with Bluetooth, and obviously you can only have one device connected at a time.
On a philosophical level, what I like about my Motoactv compared to modern smartwatches with Wear is that I'm free to use whatever app on the Play Store I feel like using no matter how sadistic, for better or for worse
Not completely tangential, but has anyone read Ron Amadeo's review of the Moto360 on Ars?
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/moto-360-review-beautiful-outside-ugly-inside/
TL;DR - It's got an old processor that drags it down. (1GHz TI OMAP 3) and drains the battery quickly.
Doesn't the MotoActv have the same class of chip? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2170917
Could it be the same one, just overclocked? Would this help in getting Wear onto the Actv?
mjdyson said:
Not completely tangential, but has anyone read Ron Amadeo's review of the Moto360 on Ars?
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/moto-360-review-beautiful-outside-ugly-inside/
TL;DR - It's got an old processor that drags it down. (1GHz TI OMAP 3) and drains the battery quickly.
Doesn't the MotoActv have the same class of chip? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2170917
Could it be the same one, just overclocked? Would this help in getting Wear onto the Actv?
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Yes it does seem that the internals are based on the MotoACTV (likely to bring the cost down) which sort of makes sense because they did say at one point that it was their reference platform for the 360 during development. They both use OMAP 3 chips, clocked at 600MHz in the MotoACTV and 1GHz in the Moto 360. This would indeed potentially make it easier to port Android Wear to the MotoACTV.
The thing is though, as @m33rkat pointed out above, the MotoACV lacks a microphone and so it would not actually necessarily be all that great with Android Wear as it is quite largely driven by voice commands. It would also mean loosing access to many of the sports features we have now such as the Motoactv.com sync, activity profiles and use of ANT+ sensors.
I think the MotoACTV might be better used as it is with Motorola's fitness software. I also wish Moto had used a newer chip in the 360 such as the Snapdragon 400 because the OMAP 3 is pretty damn old!
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Yes it does seem that the internals are based on the MotoACTV (likely to bring the cost down) which sort of makes sense because they did say at one point that it was their reference platform for the 360 during development. They both use OMAP 3 chips, clocked at 600MHz in the MotoACTV and 1GHz in the Moto 360. This would indeed potentially make it easier to port Android Wear to the MotoACTV.
The thing is though, as @m33rkat pointed out above, the MotoACV lacks a microphone and so it would not actually necessarily be all that great with Android Wear as it is quite largely driven by voice commands. It would also mean loosing access to many of the sports features we have now such as the Motoactv.com sync, activity profiles and use of ANT+ sensors.
I think the MotoACTV might be better used as it is with Motorola's fitness software. I also wish Moto had used a newer chip in the 360 such as the Snapdragon 400 because the OMAP 3 is pretty damn old!
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I think this may be more interesting once the next version of android wear is released. The GPS and offline music playback support would be better suited for the MOTOACTV since it contains GPS and the storage capacity to allow offline music. Can you overclock the processor in the motoactv? I wouldn't be surprised if android wear can run at a slower clock speed. I could imagine using the headphones (wired/bluetooth) to control the OS while running. Sucks there'd be no vibrations.
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I think this may be more interesting once the next version of android wear is released. The GPS and offline music playback support would be better suited for the MOTOACTV since it contains GPS and the storage capacity to allow offline music. Can you overclock the processor in the motoactv? I wouldn't be surprised if android wear can run at a slower clock speed. I could imagine using the headphones (wired/bluetooth) to control the OS while running. Sucks there'd be no vibrations.
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Yeah maybe. I guess it will depend on your individual use case for the device. As for overclocking the MotoACTV, yes that is possible.
Just wanted to throw my hat into the ring--I have a Motoactv and would also be up for testing. :good:
I'm trying to port it. I hope to have some thing running in a few days.
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dproldan said:
I'm trying to port it. I hope to have some thing running in a few days.
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This would be great... count me in for testing.
Yes, count us in !
dproldan said:
I'm trying to port it. I hope to have some thing running in a few days.
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[Q] Looking for a smartwatch.

Hello,
I'd like to ask you people for help regarding my choice of smartwatch that I'd love to buy very soon.
There are criteria that I'd like the watch to fulfill.
1.) Make/answer calls with the watch
- speak to the watch through a built-in microphone and get answer from a built-in speaker
- possibility of getting answer to headphones, when connected to a phone, while being able to normally talk to the watch while making a phone call
2.) other stuff like controlling the music player, send messages (can be templates) etc., I don't really care for anything else, oh and yea, It should also look nice, the display I mean, I don't want any casual looking digital-like watch.
I've been searching through the internet for days or even weeks without any satisfying results.
My phone is SGS2 running on CM11 4.4.4 and I know it is possible to even connect it to Gear 2 and other Android Wear watches, which need 4.3+ Android , but I'm also not sure wheter to go for Tizen or Android Wear, I really like the Moto 360 but if it can't make calls, then it's a no go. Gear 2 can make phones on the other hand as well as Sony Smartwatch 2, but it's Tizen in the first case and I'm not sure how it would work with i9100, because it's running on custom firmware after all and in the second case I don't want to buy the old model with so many cool watches comming out.
Has anyone possibly tried this with S2, or does anyone have experience with it? Is it possible for Android Wear to support fully functional phone calls later in time?
I'm desperate please help.
Unfortunately, without having Samsung's factory OS with all of the touchwiz junk... You may run into many incompatibilities with the Gear line of products.
The SW2 lacks speaker and mic functions.
I would keep an eye on the Asus zen and LG's R that are about to hit the market. One of these might suit your needs.
Otherwise, keep an eye on SmartQ's upcoming releases... They may have something for you at a reduced price.
Good luck.
mghtymse007 said:
I would keep an eye on the Asus zen and LG's R that are about to hit the market. One of these might suit your needs.
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Neither of those watches has a speaker. Overall, Android Wear doesn't support making/receiving calls on the watch. Heck, it doesn't even have speaker support built in yet. It has bluetooth support, but, not a speaker. That's one of the things preventing me from pulling the trigger on one of the Wear devices.
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Neither of those watches has a speaker. Overall, Android Wear doesn't support making/receiving calls on the watch. Heck, it doesn't even have speaker support built in yet. It has bluetooth support, but, not a speaker. That's one of the things preventing me from pulling the trigger on one of the Wear devices.
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What about Smartwatch 3?
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Nvm, just found out it doesn't support it.
Somehow Sony thought it would be a great idea to include phone call possibility in the new Sony SmartBand but not in the Smartwatch 3
I was looking about a smartphone with the same capabilities and I found RWATCH M26 on Gearbest .
Using the coupon TSRWHF, the price will be $28.99. Not bad at all .
I've also read the comments on the seller page and I didn't found any big problem. I'm looking forward to buy it.
You can also watch some youtube videos of it.

searching for standalone smartwatch with android and always on screen?

I am searching for standalone a smartwatch with android and always on screen?
yeahman45 said:
I am searching for standalone a smartwatch with android and always on screen?
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Sony smartwatch 3
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...artwatch-3-review-screen-battery-android-wear
slogger001 said:
Sony smartwatch 3
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...artwatch-3-review-screen-battery-android-wear
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thx but i don't think you can use android wear standalone
InWatch Z (the new one)
yeahman45 said:
I am searching for standalone a smartwatch with android and always on screen?
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Although it's not released yet, the New InWatch Z (the old/current one is 2G) is a 3G standalone, Android & always on. Check out the thread it should be released in a few months. But! ... its one of the most expensive one.
User S7yler reviewed a cheaper always-on watch on his Utube channel, but i can't recall if it was a stand-alone.
If you do find one please share it with the XDA smartwatch community
EDIT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcKetu-JIws - its not a standalone
I am still searching seems that such smartwatch does not exist
yeahman45 said:
I am still searching seems that such smartwatch does not exist
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There will always be a balance between battery life and utility. Android (Kitkat and greater especially) offers a lot of use natively, and as far as I know, there isn't a single phone with the system that suggests keeping the screen on all the time. The battery cost would be too great.
That being said, simple1i's suggestion is the watch I ended up purchasing as well - for different reasons. Using any full android phone (Not Android wear, or diluted companion only or minimal call & companion devices) with the screen on all the time will drain the battery fast.
So, you want Full Android utility, so lets talk battery life:
I believe with minimal use (BT pair perhaps) the Inwatch Z (580 mAh) with always on mode active may be able to get a full day (8-12 hours I bet). To compare that, I get around 10 days with BT paired SWApp and the watch screen off (no other modifications, thanks to KK optimizations). 30'ish hours with shake to wake enabled and downclocked to min and 1 core disabled.
yup but the inwatch Z is crazy expensive/overpriced like hell

X2 Smartwatch from IQI

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vanionbb said:
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Your efforts to prevent spam are causing me to spam.... I have information but it wont let me post links it so here comes the unintentional spam.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Every four minutes really...
I am an electrical engineer, with 9 years experience in the field of PCB layout, design, and programming.
I have information to share which is valuable to this community. I guess I will share it in a few days when its relevance has diminished.
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Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
vanionbb said:
Here is my third post, yay, 7 to go before I can get to my point!
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You can guess my point though if you search the title of this thread. There is a youtube video which I will link in 6 posts which I find fascinating.
This smart watch has android, is inexpensive, has a pulse monitor, and "e-ink" screen. I wanted to know if it is any good. It has the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 but is much thinner 9.5 mm.
Thoughts?
No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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No SIM or WiFi, 320mAh battery. Android 4.2.
I'm sure it's a good piece for those that prefer notifies. I guess someone will have to buy it and test it.
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Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
vanionbb said:
Yeah no SIM sucks, or WiFi, no Compass, no GPS. But it does have Bluetooth 4.0/2.0 whatever that is... anyone know if that is a mistranslated 4.2?
That is a small battery true 320mAh but that possibly leads to the lighter weight, lower height of the watch which is 9.5mm thick.
It does have Android 4.3 actually, and it uses the same cpu as the SmartQ Z1 which is already ported. It only has 512 megs rom and 512 megs ram, which will be a problem for adding apps, that right there is almost enough to kill it.
The big thing it does have is.
Pulse Monitor
E-Ink Background, it switches between e-ink and TFT seamlessly, there is a youtube video that makes me want to buy this watch.
Run time is 7 days on paper, while displaying time 100% of the time using e-ink (very cool)
It has android so it can be upgraded at some point by the ppl in this forum!!!
If there is something similar / better out there for the same money let me know before I buy this one! I am leaning toward this one mainly because it is so thin, its actually thinner than the apple watch (10.5mm)
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So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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Still 5 posts to go
So, there is the Reedone X1 which is interesting but does not have the low power e-ink TFT thing going for it. I like the specs but dont like the 11mm thickness and lack of e-ink TFT.
Reedone website shows the Reedone X2 (there would be a link here, but you have to find it yourself because reasons!) The Reedone X2 is the same watch as the X2 Smartwatch from IQI, with same pictures and stats.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a smart watch then?
This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
Pseud O'Nym said:
This looks the same as GearBest are selling as Atongm WO13 http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_166847.html and has the same display as he MiMi Mi-W3/Podoor PW305II http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_139964.html
I looked at this a few weeks ago but could see no advantages over the Mi-W3 I already own plus the following disadvantages:
Not waterproof - the MiMi is IP67 rated.
Much larger in height.
Proprietary charging cradle - what is the point when it isn't waterproof and uses exposed electrodes? Just something else to lose or break.
Edited to add: The BT 4.0/2.0 is because it uses a dual module that connects with either 2.0 or 4.0 protocols dependent on the device it is connecting to.
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I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
sambutler86 said:
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I don't believe it is Android based, apart from the splash screen there is nothing in the videos or adverts to suggest that it is. As it uses an Ingenics XBurst CPU I would guess it uses a version of their MIPS compiled Linux.
Although on Pandawill and Geekbuying, it clearly states Android 4.3 as the OS. Also, didn't the smart Q run on the same JZ4775 chip and run Android? i'll check with all the china shops tommorow and see what they say about the OS.
LightInTheBox says Android too, I was just going on the videos and screenshots, neither of which look like any Android I've seen, but of course it could be heavily customised.
Read the reviews of the NO.1 G2. Doesn't sound like a good buy. I'd definitely wait to see what the S7ler or others reviews have to say about the Sun.
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
JarlSX said:
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Thats what I'm thinking. I'll check with them both later today and see.
sambutler86 said:
I have been researching this over the past day.
It appears to be sold under 3 different brands
As Antogm W013 through gearbest,, geekbuying, lightinthebox, everbuying/dealsmachine, coolicool/efoxshop, Ebay and Aliexpress - but no stainless version
As IQI X2 on Aliexpress
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newe...32324780280.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.tnhc0X
As Simptech X2 on Lightinthebox and Aliexpress -
http://www.lightinthebox.com/simpte...kers-waterproof-for-andriod-ios_p2863209.html
Cheapest I found was mobile version of aliexpress for $72 (simptech version)
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32334308627.html?spm=2114.32010308.0.47.u2PDkj
There are two videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2-_uypACBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJO-_JkKDGc
Wish someone had this, close to pulling the trigger, but I don't know whether just to not get an android based watch and get the new No 1 S2 (Sun).
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I saw a video of the No. 1 S2 and the screen goes to the edges and beyond. I saw lettering go past the screen, which looks glitchy. I was tempted because of how slick it looks but they didn't do any work on switching the square scene to a round screen.
JarlSX said:
maybe they mean it's compatible with android, not running it as an os?
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Geekbuying claims it has Android 4.3 on it....but still not 100% convinced.
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parrotgeek1 said:
Yes, It does. that video shows the Android boot animation, plus Android is the only OS JZ4775 supports.
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I am torn between this one and the Reedone HG-X1.
ISI X2 :
72.08 - Lowest Price
TFT Screen, Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, etc...
Reedone HG-X1:
80.99 - Lowest Price (black plastic?) at
Same as ISI X2
+GPS
+Waterproof
+Built in USB Connector
- 1mm thicker at dial
They are very similar. I have not seen a video on the Reedone yet though.
Any thoughts on these? Do they actually run Android? Would android gear be portable to these?

Android Auto or Android Head Unit?

I just discovered Android head units are even a thing. Are there any high quality ones that wont require constant tinkering to keep working? I would like to be able to use a backup camera, and a microphone for voicecalls and commands., and google maps nav of course.
There's no need for CONSTANT tinkering actually. You will most likely want to set up a few things the way you like them at first but after that you don't need to mess with your setup once you have it to your liking. I prefer an Android HU instead of Android Auto because it's a standalone device (Android Auto requires you to be connected to your phone in order to work). If you have a pwerfull phone it might work better than a HU though so that's something to consider, but for the kind of things people would usually use a HU, the specs on these stereos are good enough.
I haven't tried Android Auto though so you might want to do some more research and not take me for a guru or anything, but that's my opinion.
Do you have a recommendation on a good HU? Is 1024x768 about the highest res you can get? I have been looking at the NU3001, but it's about a year old, is there anything better out?
I haven't seen any unit with a resolution higher than 1024x768. There's basically 2 types of CPU on these things, the better one being RK3188 so look for that. here's a link to the one I got FYI
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XCBAXWY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00
Grims said:
Do you have a recommendation on a good HU? Is 1024x768 about the highest res you can get? I have been looking at the NU3001, but it's about a year old, is there anything better out?
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Newsmy and HuiFei are the most popular here on XDA, and Newsmy types (including NU3001) are newer.
They may not require "constant tinkering to keep working", but they seem to be full of little "gotchas" that result in some people constantly trying to work around.
The best of these Chinese HUs are running Kitkat 4.4, with no Lollipop in sight (as Marshmallow is about to come out, groan...)
I think the quality of these HUs are such that they may fail within a year or two, and even if they don't it will be annoying to be stuck on 4.4 when 7 or 8 are out.
Don't expect software fixes, unless done by someone here on XDA.
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Android Auto requires you to be connected to your phone in order to work
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My Headunit app for Android Auto can run in a single device mode just fine, on a tablet or a phone.
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My Headunit app for Android Auto can run in a single device mode just fine, on a tablet or a phone.
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Can your headunit app run on one of these headunits?
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Can your headunit app run on one of these headunits?
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If any of them were on Lollipop there might be a chance...
DeafZebra said:
If any of them were on Lollipop there might be a chance...
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Lollipop is only needed on the phone/Android Auto app side.
So yes, Lollipop is needed to use my app in single device mode. But not when the tablet or headunit is connected to a phone running Lollipop and AA.
My Headunit works on Android 4.1+, in theory. In practice the H.264 decoder and USB Host mode needed was optional on earlier Android releases, so it still won't work well on many pre-Lollipop devices.
Due to this, I am likely to only officially support Lollipop+ and may make it mandatory. Even the 3 year old Nexus 7 2012 has Android 5.1, albeit slower than 4.4.
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Can your headunit app run on one of these headunits?
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So far, no. One device was reported to work but the video decoding was crazy slow. It appears that Chinese chipset devices are using software decoding of H.264 video which doesn't seem to work reliably.
So I'm focusing on Nexus tablets and may support a DIY type HU running a "96boards" or similar.
I was considering buying one of these units to support it, but lack of Lollipop when Marshmallow is imminent, and no promising reports of success from testers has killed that idea for now. It's a shame because tablets are not the best solution either.

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