Trying to find an answer before I buy this phone. Is there a non-rooting option that will let me download music/save photos/store movies straight to a microsd card? If not, which rom do you recommend?
I have never rooted before btw.
ajumbaje said:
Trying to find an answer before I buy this phone. Is there a non-rooting option that will let me download music/save photos/store movies straight to a microsd card? If not, which rom do you recommend?
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Everything works better with root. Root just means that you have permission to modify system settings and files.
Kitkat, the latest version of the OS tightened security and no longer allows third party apps to freely write files anywhere on your SD card. Now they have to stick to their own directory on the card. This breaks or at least restricts what older apps can do.
But you should be able to find a newer app that does the things you asked about.. as long as the app has been updated to the new method of keeping all of it's files in one directory tree.
If you have root, you could change or remove those SD card restrictions.
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Im not rooted but i was wondering if applications i downloaded from the android market and music i downloaded save on the phone or on the sd card and if they save on the phone is there anyway to move them to the sd card? Thanks
theyre saved on the phone, and cannot be moved to the sd card unless you are rooted and have an apps2sd partition on you sdcard. You dont need to move anything because there is 190MB of space reserved for apps, and most apps take up less than a MB.
Google will make a feature to move apps to your sd card once security issues are addressed.
melterx12 said:
theyre saved on the phone, and cannot be moved to the sd card unless you are rooted and have an apps2sd partition on you sdcard. You dont need to move anything because there is 190MB of space reserved for apps, and most apps take up less than a MB.
Google will make a feature to move apps to your sd card once security issues are addressed.
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Unless you install appmanager.
You can then BACKUP the non-protected apps to your sdcard for keeping.
if you have root explorer and root you can do more.....
Music will save to your SD card, though, unless it is a protected download from T-Mobile.
Amdathlonuk said:
Unless you install appmanager.
You can then BACKUP the non-protected apps to your sdcard for keeping.
if you have root explorer and root you can do more.....
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What all can you do if you root the phone
austin8868 said:
What all can you do if you root the phone
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anything the phone is capable of doing.
Amdathlonuk said:
Unless you install appmanager.
You can then BACKUP the non-protected apps to your sdcard for keeping.
if you have root explorer and root you can do more.....
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do you have app manager working? mine always force closes...i wish the dev would update for nexus
austin8868 said:
What all can you do if you root the phone
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Lots of stuff.
Installing apps to the SD card
Turn your phone into a wireless access point for tethering to a laptop
Modify the Hosts file so ad supported apps no longer display ads
Install modified OS builds
There are others but those are the reasons I have a rooted G1 and I will root my Nexus when I get it.
EDIT. The wireless tethering is the big one. I use that the most. Apps to SD isn't as much of an issue because of the additional storage on the Nexus compared to the G1.
austin8868 said:
What all can you do if you root the phone
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Here's an idea... how about reading a couple of stickies in the Development subforum, as well as the numerous threads in the HTC Dream and Magic forums regarding the benefits of rooting. The information is all there.
So from what I understand, apps cannot be installed to the storage card on the S4, correct? Is this fixable with root or maybe a custom ROM? Also, when recording video, will the S4 at least be able to write to the storage card when doing that? And for something like Orange Backup that can create nandroids while in Android, does anyone know if it will be able to write to the storage card? I assume that recoveries like TWRP and CW will have no issue recognizing the card and installing zips from them?
Yes, you can tell the camera to use the SD card. Not sure about Orange Backup, but I've got TWRP on my S4 and it gave me the option of using the SD card, which I took advantage of.
Can't answer your question about custom ROM's being able to give us the app storage transfer to SD option. That would be nice, though.
jejb said:
Yes, you can tell the camera to use the SD card. Not sure about Orange Backup, but I've got TWRP on my S4 and it gave me the option of using the SD card, which I took advantage of.
Can't answer your question about custom ROM's being able to give us the app storage transfer to SD option. That would be nice, though.
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Hey jejb does that make the apps install on the SD card?
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kyhassen said:
Hey jejb does that make the apps install on the SD card?
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Not every app. Some give you the choice to use the SD card, some don't. And if the app does not give you the choice, it's hard to move the app/data to the SD card for most programs on this release of Android OS.
There are some threads on possible work arounds, but I've read mixed results on them so far.
Hi all:
this time I see Google insist that any new smartphone should be ships with the latest Android version.
What Google is looking for in KitKat ?
For me I will not update to KitKat !
Because of the following:
"The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions."
That means your microSD card is secondary storage and apps will not be allowed to use it, Google has screwed up the KitKat API as they think there is a big security problem with external SD cards !!!!!
Oh... your SD Card is completely useless, applications will no longer be able to create, modify or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network.
in short Google want you to use their cloud services instead of your SD card, I feel like we are going back in time, and Samsung is involved in this game.
one-option said:
Hi all:
this time I see Google insist that any new smartphone should be ships with the latest Android version.
What Google is looking for in KitKat ?
For me I will not update to KitKat !
Because of the following:
"The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions."
That means your microSD card is secondary storage and apps will not be allowed to use it, Google has screwed up the KitKat API as they think there is a big security problem with external SD cards !!!!!
Oh... your SD Card is completely useless, applications will no longer be able to create, modify or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network.
in short Google want you to use their cloud services instead of your SD card, I feel like we are going back in time, and Samsung is involved in this game.
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There is already a fix for that
I'm using KitKat and have no problem with ext.sd. everything is working good.
KK goes without saying!!!
KitKat!
Better kitkat :good:
KitKat. period. I flashed the stock firmware first before flashing custom formware. No issues.
yep, kit kat.
definitely kitkat.
Have a break (with jellybean). Have a KitKat.
cheers ~
Zoddex said:
There is already a fix for that
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Well, my S4 is not rooted , that fix also could miss your phone, I don't know what is the point in having a MicroSD slot, then Kitkat will make it useless !!!
as it is not enough that Touchwize rom taking much of the phone storage, but Kitkat will make things even more hard !!!!
Guys just be aware of what you are going to do with your S4
Zoddex said:
There is already a fix for that
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Link PLS ...
Mittaa said:
Link PLS ...
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Here you have it (from Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
kponto said:
Here you have it (from Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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Better late than never, but thanks anyway LOL
Found the same solution weeks ago :good:
I would suggest go for KitKat as it's awesome for performance and battery is beastly
Sent From S4 I9500 Crash Rom Final 4.4.2
I'm having an issue where I can't cut/copy/paste, create files(.nomedia), and delete files/folders on my external sd card using ES File Explorer. I can create folders though. Everything works on my internal storage. I tried using another app and still having problems. The preinstalled My Files app works on the external sd card.
Any one else having these issues? Any suggestions?
I had that issue with two new cards I put them in my phone and had to format them with the phone under settings for it to work
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syu78 said:
I'm having an issue where I can't cut/copy/paste, create files(.nomedia), and delete files/folders on my external sd card using ES File Explorer. I can create folders though. Everything works on my internal storage. I tried using another app and still having problems. The preinstalled My Files app works on the external sd card.
Any one else having these issues? Any suggestions?
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KitKat changed the way Android deals with SD cards, particularly in regard to what applications can and can't do. Formatting the card in the phone might help for some things, but it won't solve everything since some changes are at the system level. Here are a couple of articles that explain the changes:
KitKat and SD cards — what's fixed, what's broken and what's misunderstood
External Blues: Google Has Brought Big Changes To SD Cards In KitKat, And Even Samsung Is Implementing Them
If you're going to root your phone, some progress has been made in being able to change the permissions needed to allow apps to access the SD card in the same way as has been the case on previous versions of Android. It's something to keep an eye on in regards to how it might or might now work with the S5: [APP][4.4][ROOT] SDFix: Modify device permissions to allow apps to write to MicroSD
Thanks for the info
bsweetness said:
KitKat changed the way Android deals with SD cards, particularly in regard to what applications can and can't do. Formatting the card in the phone might help for some things, but it won't solve everything since some changes are at the system level. Here are a couple of articles that explain the changes:
KitKat and SD cards — what's fixed, what's broken and what's misunderstood
External Blues: Google Has Brought Big Changes To SD Cards In KitKat, And Even Samsung Is Implementing Them
If you're going to root your phone, some progress has been made in being able to change the permissions needed to allow apps to access the SD card in the same way as has been the case on previous versions of Android. It's something to keep an eye on in regards to how it might or might now work with the S5: [APP][4.4][ROOT] SDFix: Modify device permissions to allow apps to write to MicroSD
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Done reading and it helped.Thanks men
Yes. Might be it's working.. thanks @bsweetness
Hi guys. I was wondering if there's a way to install apps on SDCARD without root? I've already changed the default storage in settings but it doesn't seem to work.
mine it's working.
I think normal apps aren't normally allowed to use sdcard in Lollipop(or maybe from Kit Kat onward). They don't even have permission to see the sdcard...But why would you want that? Do you have that many apps installed that internal is full?
@andrei80 yup. Some of my games are 1gb above. @ItalianWolf when you install an app, does it directly go to the SDCARD? I wonder why that's not my case.
@rHycH
yes (memory usage tells )
Maybe sd card isn't fast enought? It's, at least, a class 10 card?
Some apps can't be installed on sd card and can't be moved to sd card from app manager.
@ItalianWolf Yes, I believe this is a class 10 card. If you don't mind can you give me an example of an app that you were able to install successfully on your SDCARD? Thanks!
Also, Link2SD/Mounts2SD/Apps2SD doesn't work for me. Anybody else got a different experience? Games are taking a lot of space on my internal SD. Specifically talking about linking/binding obb files.
@Rookert I believe link2sd requires root to work.
Yup, all I have read indicate that root is needed for achieving what you want