Use of storage card by the S4 - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

So from what I understand, apps cannot be installed to the storage card on the S4, correct? Is this fixable with root or maybe a custom ROM? Also, when recording video, will the S4 at least be able to write to the storage card when doing that? And for something like Orange Backup that can create nandroids while in Android, does anyone know if it will be able to write to the storage card? I assume that recoveries like TWRP and CW will have no issue recognizing the card and installing zips from them?

Yes, you can tell the camera to use the SD card. Not sure about Orange Backup, but I've got TWRP on my S4 and it gave me the option of using the SD card, which I took advantage of.
Can't answer your question about custom ROM's being able to give us the app storage transfer to SD option. That would be nice, though.

jejb said:
Yes, you can tell the camera to use the SD card. Not sure about Orange Backup, but I've got TWRP on my S4 and it gave me the option of using the SD card, which I took advantage of.
Can't answer your question about custom ROM's being able to give us the app storage transfer to SD option. That would be nice, though.
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Hey jejb does that make the apps install on the SD card?
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kyhassen said:
Hey jejb does that make the apps install on the SD card?
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Not every app. Some give you the choice to use the SD card, some don't. And if the app does not give you the choice, it's hard to move the app/data to the SD card for most programs on this release of Android OS.
There are some threads on possible work arounds, but I've read mixed results on them so far.

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Using Apps on SD with 2 different ROMS

Been searching for a while but am confused. Never needed to use my external SD on vibrant until recently. Now I have a question. I have two different ROM versions on my phone and I use ROM manager to keep them backed up and I use restore to go from one to the other.
The question is, now that I had to move some apps to my sd card (using Apps2SD), what happens when I switch ROMS by using restore?
Do I need two different partitions on the SD card, one for each ROM? If so how do I do this, and how do I know which partition each ROM will use?
I have read many warnings about partitioning using ROM Manager so I am kind of leary of using it.
Can anyone explain this to me? Never thought about it before because the Vibrant has so much memory available.
Thanks.
Any ideas?
I'm sure lots of people have done this before, just not me.
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Thanks in advance.
rblancrt said:
The question is, now that I had to move some apps to my sd card (using Apps2SD), what happens when I switch ROMS by using restore?
Do I need two different partitions on the SD card, one for each ROM? If so how do I do this, and how do I know which partition each ROM will use?
I have read many warnings about partitioning using ROM Manager so I am kind of leary of using it
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I have NEVER heard good things about partitioning your SD card with ROM mgr. NOt sure why you would anyways. The internal is already partitioned anyway. That is why we have a phone marketed with 16gb internal but when you pull settings>sdcard it shows only 14gb. Where are the other 2gb at? There are already partitioned to put your apps there. Use Root Explored and go to /Data, /datadata/, /dalvik-cache and you'll notice that they are all the same size-nearly 2 gb. Viola!!!
As far as restoring. I don't use native App2sd but I know how it works. W/o getting too technical, it puts part of the app's apk (executable functions and data) in a folder called .androidsecure on your sdcard (if you want to view this folder, you have to plug into PC and make sure Hidden Files are viewable). Now to your question. Whenever I have backed up, I always see at the end when it is cycling through your partitons (/system, /data,...) it says something like "backing up .androidsecure"-file not found*b/c I don't use it is why it isn't found. So you can back that up if there is something in it, flash new ROM redownload your apps and move to App2sd, back up and when you restore it should restore the .androidsecure partition.
Sorry for the long response but you asked two questions there. Now for my question. How many friggin apps do you have to fill up everything and bleed over into the app2sd part too? Does your phone lag? How is battery life?
Using App 2 SD Pro
Perhaps I didn't give enough info, but I am using an app, called App 2 SD Pro, to move apps back and forth to and from SD card.
It shows Moveable = 98, on SD card = 17, and phone only = 98, so I suppose it have 213 if it is correct.
Thanks for the info about restoring. I will have to study your answer in more detail before I can give any more answers, or ask any further questions.
re download my apps
Part of your answer above was redownload my apps.
Don't want to do that. If I move some of my apps to the sd card using the app "App 2 SD Pro" and then do a backup using ROM manager, then restore another ROM using ROM Manager, which also has apps on the sd card, what happens to them?
I have done this and it seemed to me that some of the apps which had been moved to the sd card did not show up on the restored ROM.
This is why I asked about partitioning, maybe using one section of the external sd card for one ROM and one section for the other.

[Q] Always running out of internal space.

I wonder why my phone runs out of internal space so quickly. Even with apps all installed in the SD card, as soon as it's time to update, the phone runs out of storage. I'm using a rooted stock rom with the latest update from Samsung and with a 2GiB microsd that came with the phone.
Is there a way to solve this without using a custom rom?
You need to get a minimum 8GB SD card & install Link2SD & link all the apps to the sd card,see the link2SD tutorial here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614700
Your ROM should also have init.d support & stock ROM doesn't have that
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You need to get a minimum 8GB SD card & install Link2SD & link all the apps to the sd card,see the link2SD tutorial here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614700
Your ROM should also have init.d support & stock ROM doesn't have that
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Yes, but what part of "without using a custom ROM." I said differently? Also, changing to a bigger SD card is not an option either. Link2SD also can't move system apps, unless I make them "installed" apps using Titanium Backup.
MR4Y said:
Yes, but what part of "without using a custom ROM." I said differently? Also, changing to a bigger SD card is not an option either. Link2SD also can't move system apps, unless I make them "installed" apps using Titanium Backup.
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I just gave the fact dude,no need to be rude but,you can get init.d support using this app & never ever try moving system apps to sd card
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androguide.universal.init.d&hl=en
JellyBeanAndroid said:
I just gave the fact dude,no need to be rude but,you can get init.d support using this app & never ever try moving system apps to sd card
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androguide.universal.init.d&hl=en
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This seems to be a problem with the stock rom. I've used an assortment of custom roms and never ran out of internal space.
Try amarullz script
MR4Y said:
I wonder why my phone runs out of internal space so quickly. Even with apps all installed in the SD card, as soon as it's time to update, the phone runs out of storage. I'm using a rooted stock rom with the latest update from Samsung and with a 2GiB microsd that came with the phone.
Is there a way to solve this without using a custom rom?
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Try amarullz script its very awesome iam using it now also just partition ur sd card and ur ready:good:

sd card issue

I have galaxy note 3,updated to android kitkat everythink gone well,, but after update finished try to backup my apps to 16 GB external sd card but,,not working
I try 10 different backup app none of them working.. is this problem cause by me or kitkat
There are quite a few posts regarding this issue. Installing the SanDisk app the playstore can fix the issue.
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Ryya said:
There are quite a few posts regarding this issue. Installing the SanDisk app the playstore can fix the issue.
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Which SanDisk app are you referring to?
SD card issue
I have the same problem (N9005, 32GB Samsung SD card) - after the update:
- Mybackup Pro is not able to backup on SD card (before it worked well)
- File mamager X-Plore can not create new folders on the external SD card
- similar with the Astro file manager
Only the system-own file manager can create folders. Reading from the card is possible.
After formatting the card: still the same problem.
has anyone additional information?
It's because of the security features of KK... These older apps aren't yet "approved" by Samsung. It has something to do with a simple permission to write to the sd card.
As was stated "Only the system-own file manager can create folders" as this is Samsung approned. Until the Apps are updated and the Samsung seal of approval given these may have trouble...
There is no problem if rooted...
I am truly enjoying KitKat but I wish I could get Titanium to back up to the external sd card.
I guess I will wait like everyone else for the app to get approval from Samsung. Perhaps that will come with the "official' release of KitKat.
Yes, I am rooted and it still cannot back up to the external sd.
Spazmogen said:
I am truly enjoying KitKat but I wish I could get Titanium to back up to the external sd card.
I guess I will wait like everyone else for the app to get approval from Samsung. Perhaps that will come with the "official' release of KitKat.
Yes, I am rooted and it still cannot back up to the external sd.
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Use External SD fix for KitKat - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215

How to save/move Apps to SD card?

Hi could anyone tell me how to save Apps to an SD card in my Z2?
You cant... its because Google decided to restrict it in 4.4
Cobman said:
Hi could anyone tell me how to save Apps to an SD card in my Z2?
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You can't, read about the restrictions of KitKat. and if you have root you can use an app to do that.
Seriously? Can't believe I just found out... what is the point of this restriction? is andriod trying to copy Apple with their restricted iphone storage?
Fadeless said:
Seriously? Can't believe I just found out... what is the point of this restriction? is andriod trying to copy Apple with their restricted iphone storage?
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I don't think Google likes SD cards, and they try to promote their Google Drive. None of the Nexuses have SD card slots.
"Cloud is the future".
Xernoxis said:
I don't think Google likes SD cards, and they try to promote their Google Drive. None of the Nexuses have SD card slots.
"Cloud is the future".
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What about applications though, you can exactly move them to cloud to free up space. The Z2 only has 16gb and with apps getting bigger and bigger that's really going to be a big limitation.
Fadeless said:
What about applications though, you can exactly move them to cloud to free up space. The Z2 only has 16gb and with apps getting bigger and bigger that's really going to be a big limitation.
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So your apps use 12GB storage? That is how much free space you have. For backup apps you can just move the backup folder to SD card. You can have Nandroid backup on SD card aswell.
Also music and films go to SD card. There are exploits for Spotify to move the folder to the SD card.
Xernoxis said:
So your apps use 12GB storage? That is how much free space you have. For backup apps you can just move the backup folder to SD card. You can have Nandroid backup on SD card aswell.
Also music and films go to SD card. There are exploits for Spotify to move the folder to the SD card.
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What about photos? But true, unless I am going to get massive games like GTA I should be fine I guess.
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What about photos? But true, unless I am going to get massive games like GTA I should be fine I guess.
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You should be able to save photos/videos to SD card still (there's an option in the camera app).
There is an option to transfer data like videos, photo's & music in "storage" , which I know does not solve the problem but is good news for Z2 developers because this shows that it's possble to do it & create roms with that purpose in mind...
There's no problem on galaxy devices coz their native folder manager "My files" bypasses this restriction.
I hope Sony creates their own native manager to fix that!
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Hi guys! Do have any roms in mind that can transfer apps to sd card? I just bought my Z2 and i also have a 128gb sd card. Im having 2nd thoughts installing custom rom but if the stock rom cant allow me to install apps to sd, i will have no choice but to install that rom. Thank you!
argelb said:
Hi guys! Do have any roms in mind that can transfer apps to sd card? I just bought my Z2 and i also have a 128gb sd card. Im having 2nd thoughts installing custom rom but if the stock rom cant allow me to install apps to sd, i will have no choice but to install that rom. Thank you!
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Try a Xposed module named XInternalSD
Try foldermount. On my Z2 it works but I have the premium version. I am not sure if it also works with the free version.
mariusfl0rian said:
Try foldermount. On my Z2 it works but I have the premium version. I am not sure if it also works with the free version.
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Free version should work also, I believe difference is in number of pairs allowed.
Thanks for the reply guys! I tried folder mount and it indeed worked for me. But i have another concern, i dont know if its just my phone or others are also having this issue. Do you have problem installing some apps? It says No space available but i still have 9gb available in my internal card. Hope u can suggest what i can do to install any app i want. Thank you!
So how can I save downloaded songs from spotify to my sdcard?
Link: http://amzn.com/B00IVPU894
Kinda useless purchase.
higgs_ said:
So how can I save downloaded songs from spotify to my sdcard?
Link: http://amzn.com/B00IVPU894
Kinda useless purchase.
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Let's go out on a limb here but have you tried folder mount?
Still can't do it with new update?
So let me get this straight, even with the new update(4.4.4), you still can't move apps to sdcard on the Z2???
I'm unrooted/stock, just got the device, but I'm shocked to know this, I should've looked more into it before making the purchase. I have link2sd, and I noticed it just takes me to the app in app info(which I could do by myself through settings), and I still don't have an option to move apps to sd card.
Am I missing something? I have to root to move apps to sdcard with the z2 on the latest stock rom and firmware??
I didn't want to start a new thread and saw this one, among others.

Do i use the MM feature and use my SD card as internal memory?

Hi All
I have a Samsung i9505 and just moved to Resurrection Remix 5.6.2 ROM using marshmallow and am having issues with writing to the SD card with 3rd party apps.
I have used the ES Explorer fix and mount R/W and enabled root explorer however my 3rd party app still shows as read only. The app is doggcatcher. Whats odd I found an article to sort this problem out for Titanium backup and that worked fine. Also my camera picture and whatsapp all get saved to the SD card without issue.
In the end I have told doggcatcher to use my internal memory but that is quickly filling up.
I am tempted as the phone as 16GB internal memory, whether I should backup my files and choose the options where I can turn my 64gb external SD card as part of my internal memory as I never take out my SD card so that option might work for me but the reviews I am hearing are more negative than positive. I did try it out and went back to the traditional approach but thinking that maybe I didnt give it enough time.
I used FolderMount which was great on LL and recently purchase Link2SD to move files to the SD card but my internal memory still fills up. Currently foldermount isnt compatible with MM, link2SD is but I am having a few issues with it crashing and dont find it as easily to use as foldermount.
Any advice would be appreciated on what others have done.
Thanks
I don't know about anything else, but from what I heard is:
If you format as internal, you will have to do the whole "setup your sd card" step every time you flash a rom. Which is garbage, unless you stay on the same rom for like ever.
Dirty flashing a rom might skip that setup, as you don't lose the data/settingd etc. Problem is, you can't always dirty flash. Especially when changing roms altogether. PC's might not be able to read it either even if it is in your phone.
This is just what I gathered over the time, nothing from personal experience.
Umm interesting well I normally backup my phone nightly using both TB and nandroid backup so restoring to a new ROM as long as it doesn't format the whole CSR I should be OK or does it when you install the new ROM in which case my backups are no good unless I save them to the cloud like Dropbox or google drive?
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ranjb said:
Hi All
I have a Samsung i9505 and just moved to Resurrection Remix 5.6.2 ROM using marshmallow and am having issues with writing to the SD card with 3rd party apps.
I have used the ES Explorer fix and mount R/W and enabled root explorer however my 3rd party app still shows as read only. The app is doggcatcher. Whats odd I found an article to sort this problem out for Titanium backup and that worked fine. Also my camera picture and whatsapp all get saved to the SD card without issue.
In the end I have told doggcatcher to use my internal memory but that is quickly filling up.
I am tempted as the phone as 16GB internal memory, whether I should backup my files and choose the options where I can turn my 64gb external SD card as part of my internal memory as I never take out my SD card so that option might work for me but the reviews I am hearing are more negative than positive. I did try it out and went back to the traditional approach but thinking that maybe I didnt give it enough time.
I used FolderMount which was great on LL and recently purchase Link2SD to move files to the SD card but my internal memory still fills up. Currently foldermount isnt compatible with MM, link2SD is but I am having a few issues with it crashing and dont find it as easily to use as foldermount.
Any advice would be appreciated on what others have done.
Thanks
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