Ditched Note for Surface Pro 3 - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

I have been a loyal user of Samsung galaxy products for a very long time, owning the s3, note 2, note 8, note 10.1, and note 10.1 2014. in general they have been excellent aside from very poor resale value. my favorite of all these devices used to be the 10.1 2014. it had a sharp screen and excellent battery life. then the kit kat update happened. all of a sudden my battery life went to hell and even after I rooted and such I could still not restore the device to where it had been. when I watch youtube or do anything intense the battery dies unbelievably fast,
I finally gave up and got a surface pro 3. so far I am very impressed. for my use the battery life is better than note. also fairly light and extremely powerful. onenote is far better than snote. microsofts onedrive integration is awesome.
I feel Samsung devices have gone downhill lately. I wanted to get an s4 but found the bloatware intolerable, especially annoying is my magazine. the fingerprint scanner and heart rate functionality also suck. ill also be replacing my note 2 with an lg g3 or iPhone 6.

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ehm good for you, but your point being?
As I see it to each his own, congrats on a new gadget but no need to start a post just on that accord..... Just saying

Kind of apples and oranges, no?

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I tried out the surface pro 3 and went back to note 10.1 2014. I just could not get lots of the apps I got so used to over time. Keyboard and concept was great, OS not as much , as a tablet os , it sucks to use your finger on desktop.
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red321red321 said:
... but found the bloatware intolerable ....
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Too bad that was all in your head. So-called "bloatware" takes up minimal resources in storage, and after a few minutes of having booted is no longer in your RAM nor uses any CPU cycles.

kcrudup said:
Too bad that was all in your head. So-called "bloatware" takes up minimal resources in storage, and after a few minutes of having booted is no longer in your RAM nor uses any CPU cycles.
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Do you have Android OS keeping the device awake? Mine have this over a course of 10 hours since disconnected from power AND only have screen on time of 1.5 hours.
I already turned off bloatware from "Application Manager", no background app like weather or social media. So this bloatware does take CPU resources and keeping the tablet awake.
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You have some app killing your battery, not "bloatware". I don't remove anything and have very little "awake" time that's not "screen on" time. You should get "Bettery Battery Stats" from the Play Store (if you're rooted).

kcrudup said:
You have some app killing your battery, not "bloatware". I don't remove anything and have very little "awake" time that's not "screen on" time. You should get "Bettery Battery Stats" from the Play Store (if you're rooted).
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This is a brand new device, just got it last Sunday. No 3rd party apps installed at all. Only setup Google account so I can update existing app and sync Gmail and calendar. If it is not "bloatware", then it is whatever apps that came with the tablet.
No Google Now crap, but GPS is turned on.
BBS won't show detailed info as I am not rooted.
EDIT: forgot to mention that I hard reset the device already.

Shot in the dark- do you have a D-Link router?

kcrudup said:
Shot in the dark- do you have a D-Link router?
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No, I have an ASUS RT-N66U. I also thought that my router have something to do with the tablet, like it is broadcasting something that made the tablet responded, but the awake situation applies even when I am at the office, which uses other brand of wireless AP.
I am going to turn off GPS and see what will happen. Maybe the location based network is causing it.

lanwarrior said:
No, I have an ASUS RT-N66U.
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Huh. (So do I.) I'd asked 'cause one of the things we'd noticed when I was working for a couple of companies making Android devices is certain D-Link routers management/beacon frames were coming at just the right interval to keep the WiFi chip waking up the kernel.
"Android Services" could be anything, though. You're on a WiFi-only device, right?

kcrudup said:
Huh. (So do I.) I'd asked 'cause one of the things we'd noticed when I was working for a couple of companies making Android devices is certain D-Link routers management/beacon frames were coming at just the right interval to keep the WiFi chip waking up the kernel.
"Android Services" could be anything, though. You're on a WiFi-only device, right?
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Yes, I have the WIFI version.
BTW, its Android OS that is causing the wake locks, not Android System according to App Manager.

I'm thinking the same thing. I'm looking at the Surface Pro to replace my Note 10.1 2014 since nobody knows how to fix it. Not even Samsung.

Antrax said:
I'm thinking the same thing. I'm looking at the Surface Pro to replace my Note 10.1 2014 since nobody knows how to fix it. Not even Samsung.
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Just my 2 cents:
I did look at the Surface Pro 3 before I bought my Note 10.1. It is a great device, but it does not fit my need as follow:
1). It is much heavier than an Android tablet
2). Battery life is not as good
3). Not much apps available, especially those that I need (Google Maps is one).
I already have a MacBook Air with great battery life, so I opted to have 2 devices instead since each served its own purpose. I.e. for media consumption, I use the Note; for real work like Excel, I use the MacBook Air.

I feel your pain on the Note 2. Damn home button lag is ridiculous for me. I'm rooted on 4.4 with Knox killed and S Voice double tap turned off. 4.4 was installed after doing a complete wipe of my phone. The only way I can fix it is by clearing my memory after I have about 6 apps open. That's ridiculous for a phone with 2GB of RAM. My brother's Galaxy S II has a way more responsive home button with half the RAM and half the cores.
I am a lot happier with my Note 10.1 2014 now that I've turned off the physical buttons on the front. Note taking is absolutely perfect now.
Very impressed with what MS has been able to do in just two revisions. Can't wait to see what they do for the 4th gen.
Like you, I am seriously considering the iPhone 6. But only if the large screen 64GB price is reasonable and the camera has OIS. But I also want to see what the McLaren ends up being. A second gen Lumia 1020 sounds very intriguing. Hell, I even want to try out the Passport. The keyboard sounds really interesting.
An incredible Motorola X+1, an impressive Nexus 6 and the Note 4 which will be incredible for sure are the three phones that could make me stay Android.
It's good to be alive. I remember when hitting the 1GHz mark on a single core in 2010 was mind blowing. So many amazing choices now. We are so spoiled. It's unreal.

Stocklone said:
I feel your pain on the Note 2. Damn home button lag is ridiculous for me. I'm rooted on 4.4 with Knox killed and S Voice double tap turned off. 4.4 was installed after doing a complete wipe of my phone. The only way I can fix it is by clearing my memory after I have about 6 apps open. That's ridiculous for a phone with 2GB of RAM. My brother's Galaxy S II has a way more responsive home button with half the RAM and half the cores.
I am a lot happier with my Note 10.1 2014 now that I've turned off the physical buttons on the front. Note taking is absolutely perfect now.
Very impressed with what MS has been able to do in just two revisions. Can't wait to see what they do for the 4th gen.
Like you, I am seriously considering the iPhone 6. But only if the large screen 64GB price is reasonable and the camera has OIS. But I also want to see what the McLaren ends up being. A second gen Lumia 1020 sounds very intriguing. Hell, I even want to try out the Passport. The keyboard sounds really interesting.
An incredible Motorola X+1, an impressive Nexus 6 and the Note 4 which will be incredible for sure are the three phones that could make me stay Android.
It's good to be alive. I remember when hitting the 1GHz mark on a single core in 2010 was mind blowing. So many amazing choices now. We are so spoiled. It's unreal.
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How did you turn off the home button in you Now 10.1?

lanwarrior said:
How did you turn off the home button in you Now 10.1?
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You have to be rooted. But there are two text files you have to modify in system/usr/keylayout. gpio-keys.kl and generic.kl. In generic, key 139 and 158 need to be commented out with a #. In gpio, key 172 needs to be commented out. I used ES File Explorer but that wouldn't let me save to the keylayout folder directly after editing with the ES Note Editor so I copied the files to sdcard, modified them, copied them back then modified the properties so the RWX permissions were the same as the other files in that directory. Now I use Button Savior Pro for my virtual buttons. You can enable virtual buttons by editing another file but they are spaced out weird so I prefer Savior Pro by far. So if you ever decide to root, there you go. Jnn1 on XDA figured this out. I'm just trying to provide more thorough directions.
Also, I'm using the 600 model on a custom ROM that has Gravity Box enabled which has an option that forces the menu options to appear on the action bar. Maybe forcing the virtual buttons would do the same thing. I don't know. I do know not having to press a menu button to see if there are any options is awesome.
If you just want to do home, only the 172 key needs to be commented.

They definitely both have their own place. The surface pro for work on the go and galaxy for web browsing/apps

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Sold my streak :)

Sold my streak
Used my streak for about 6 months before I finally decided to sell it. A big thank you to dj_steve and all the users who wrote guides and helped make streak the amazing device it was. Unfortunately the more I used my streak, the more I realized it just wasn't the ideal device for me. There were just too many small quips that I had with the streak that killed the user experience for me.
Here's a few:
Screen size and weight- The 5" screen was great for gps and web browsing, but I could never get used to texting even with the thumb keyboard app. Due to its weight, I found it difficult to hold the streak in one hand for long periods of time. This usually happend when I used the kindle app so I found myself having to either sit up or lay the streak down to read.
Battery Life - For the life of me, I couldn't get more than 24 hours on a single charge (even with juice defender). I only left wifi and the cellular radio on and would make sure to keep gps and bluetooth off . I'm sure I was doing something wrong since many of you faired much better but could never figure it out (I recently read dj_steve posting that he got 4+ days on his streak).
Market update - A few months ago the update to the android market made it incredibly difficult to find new apps. Before you could use the middle key (menu) and could easily select search but with the update that option went away. Instead you now had to click the small search icon in the upper right corner to find anything (And I hated the new tile layout in the market, the old list version was much better)
Charging - With the otterbox commuter case, I always had problems plugging the dell sync cable into the charging port. The frustration was similar to plugging a flash the drive in the wrong way
Music - I couldn't use the streak as a dedicated mp3 player due to its size and couldn't get a music app that didn't catalog every audio file on the streak. Instead I would always find myself carrying my ipod touch everywhere alongside my streak
SD card - I never liked using the unorganized folder layout whenever I connected my streak. I would always find empty folders in the root directory and was never sure if they were the remnants of a deleted app
Gameplay - When I bought my streak, I knew it wasn't made as a gaming device. But I never could get popular games like planets vs zombies to even run on my streak. Games would always crash even after re-installing and closing all apps that were currently running in the background.
All in all, the streak has been a great gadget to play with but wasn't the device I needed. Again, a big thanks to everyone on this forum who helped make it great
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Sold my streak
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Due to its weight, I found it difficult to hold the streak in one hand for long periods of time. This usually happend when I used the kindle app so I found myself having to either sit up or lay the streak down to read.
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Reading e-books is actually one of the things that I believe the Streak does very well.
ahmadh007 said:
Battery Life - For the life of me, I couldn't get more than 24 hours on a single charge (even with juice defender). I only left wifi and the cellular radio on and would make sure to keep gps and bluetooth off . I'm sure I was doing something wrong since many of you faired much better but could never figure it out (I recently read dj_steve posting that he got 4+ days on his streak).
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24 hours is probably typical. I charge my phone every night.
ahmadh007 said:
Market update - A few months ago the update to the android market made it incredibly difficult to find new apps. Before you could use the middle key (menu) and could easily select search but with the update that option went away. Instead you now had to click the small search icon in the upper right corner to find anything (And I hated the new tile layout in the market, the old list version was much better)
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You can freeze the market updater to prevent the new market from installing. This really isn't a Streak issue - it's a Google issue.
ahmadh007 said:
Charging - With the otterbox commuter case, I always had problems plugging the dell sync cable into the charging port. The frustration was similar to plugging a flash the drive in the wrong way
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I solved my issue with the Commuter case by cutting the port covers off. I felt they were more in the way than useful. Also not a Streak issue, it's a case design issue.
ahmadh007 said:
Music - I couldn't use the streak as a dedicated mp3 player due to its size and couldn't get a music app that didn't catalog every audio file on the streak. Instead I would always find myself carrying my ipod touch everywhere alongside my streak
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I use my Streak for music almost every day. PowerAmp works great and lets you choose which folders to catalog.
ahmadh007 said:
SD card - I never liked using the unorganized folder layout whenever I connected my streak. I would always find empty folders in the root directory and was never sure if they were the remnants of a deleted app
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This is also not a Streak issue - it is an Android issue.
I am also moving from the Streak to a smaller phone. My issue with the Streak is also one of it's best features, it's size. I just want something smaller that is easier to carry every day. Just as I pointed out solutions that work for me to the issues you raised I am sure others will say that they have no problems with carrying the Streak every day.
In the end you have to use a phone that suits your needs.
Agreed, the majority of my problems came from using the android os. As much I wanted to like it, I couldn't make it work. The big selling point behind the steak was it's screen and I didn't use it enough to justify it's size
i bought a cheap 10" tablet 4 months ago so my streak just get used as a phone now
my streak broke a couple a weeks ago (stuck on dell logo & no recovery) so i dug out my o2 xda guide & i really enjoyed using a smaller phone
but now i got my new streak back the other day & i cant wait till march until i get a small phone again i just dont need a 5" phone anymore
Sound like it's not the Streak that's not for you, it's Android that's not for you. Hope you enjoy your Iphone
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Reading e-books is actually one of the things that I believe the Streak does very well.
24 hours is probably typical. I charge my phone every night.
You can freeze the market updater to prevent the new market from installing. This really isn't a Streak issue - it's a Google issue.
I solved my issue with the Commuter case by cutting the port covers off. I felt they were more in the way than useful. Also not a Streak issue, it's a case design issue.
I use my Streak for music almost every day. PowerAmp works great and lets you choose which folders to catalog.
This is also not a Streak issue - it is an Android issue.
I am also moving from the Streak to a smaller phone. My issue with the Streak is also one of it's best features, it's size. I just want something smaller that is easier to carry every day. Just as I pointed out solutions that work for me to the issues you raised I am sure others will say that they have no problems with carrying the Streak every day.
In the end you have to use a phone that suits your needs.
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I agree on each of the highlighted points from Marvin... I wish I could have bought your Streak!
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dell streak at his size and his specs is a great device, i use one more than 6 months and i don't think i will sell it or change it soon because streak have everything i want from a device: big screen for navigation, reading, writing, 2 micro sd slots for memory card (maxim 64gb) (i use now 8gb for system and 16gb for apps, multimedia ...), nice design, speed and many more .
deejayviral said:
dell streak at his size and his specs is a great device, i use one more than 6 months and i don't think i will sell it or change it soon because streak have everything i want from a device: big screen for navigation, reading, writing, 2 micro sd slots for memory card (maxim 64gb) (i use now 8gb for system and 16gb for apps, multimedia ...), nice design, speed and many more .
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These days i reckon you could have a maximum of 128gb using 2 64GB MicroSDXC cards formatted to FAT32, crazy amount of storage.
ok i am a little confused. where is the 2nd sd card slot? is it hidden some where?
I'm a DELL Streak 5 owner as well... for nearly a year.
I love it so much but I really have to say, when I compare it to my friend's Samsung GALAXY Note... the weight of my streak is a big big difference...
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Compare to Galaxy Note, the design in Dell Streak is better. Also Galaxy Note looks like a Chick-phone, which it is because samsung advertise it targetting for secretary/Office Lady who like to take a note alot.
I am still waiting for better phone to replace my Streak, probably the one that comes with Quad Core Tegra 3 processor, and 720p display that is "not an AMOLED", and better design than Galaxy Note.

[Q] Honesty and Owers Only Please...

I'm taking the jump into getting an Android tablet, and with the price difference between the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 not being THAT much, i'm torn between the two.
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and use it to an inch of it's potential so to speak. Mod it, break it, mod it some more, game, wireless controlling, and of course the usual things you do with a phone.
What i am currently researching is the potential to use it as a audio controller to map beats, on-the-fly effects, and recording/sampling/looping with my Guitar and Mic. I understand the iPad's do lead in this technology due to the connector to allow for a multiple of inputs. But, excusing profanity... FnCK Apple.
I need real users to tell me honestly, and truthfully the capabilities they know by first hand experience, and what they have read for me to make a decision on these two devices. I understand this is somewhat opening the can of worms that is Android, so please keep it simple and brief. This is a hard decision!
Thank you for your times guys,
Steve.
this is the nexus 10 subforum.. In here ppl will tell you to buy the nexus 10.. I bet you post in the Nexus 7 subforum as well... lol
easy choice for me. I'd never buy a 7 inch tablet no matter how good it is.
There are other threads like this too...Do what you want. If you are going to use it for web, movies, magazine, I'd say go for the 10...if you want a portable E-reader go for the 7. Go to the store and try the 7 and a different 10 inch tablet to see how they feel for you.
I have a gs3 as well and had a nexus 7. The screen size isn't that much of a difference to justify it in the nexus 7 area. The nexus 10 is rly great and works great. Also 10 in screen is just great when you have a larger phone like you and I.
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You know that's very true. I have a big phone, so to get the most out of either tablet, i guess screen size (Due to the S3 being a big phone) is actually important. I've never actually seen the Nexus 10 tab up close but i'm guessing i'm going to sex wee some what. Does this thing really fly?
I have a N7 and an iPad 1 now and wanted to upgrade the iPad but am moving away from apple.
The two sized devices sort of have separate use-cases. The larger device sits on my coffee table for quick surfing and email checks while the n7 is always in my bag. I travel constantly and there are many times I need to look something up on the web/calendar/email when I have enough time to not have to use my phone but don't want to pull out my laptop....
Think about where/how you are going to use it (does it need to be REALLY portable or not).
My n10 is due to be delivered Monday, but I have been using the n7 since launch and am very happy with it.
I have ZERO musical experience with EITHER device.
However I own them BOTH (the 7 and the 10) and I'm telling you right now that if you're even remotely torn between the two - GET THE 10.
All you need to do is SEE IT to know. Here is my "Nexii" picture:
https://plus.google.com/116992953847984037990/posts/MXDqFkfsHPq
The 7 is on the left - see what I mean?
Yes, i see exactly. I'd be using it to read music off it as well so the size of the N7 does seem just that little bit small. The N10 seems pretty perfect to sit on my book stand as well! Specially with the crazy resolution of the device things will be crystal clear even with the file being fully shown and not zoomed in. Right now - I think the N10 is winning this race!
I'm in a similar dilemma...for your purpose, reading music I think its a no brainer. The picture above says it all, N10 is the clear winner. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping the N10. I'm definitely buying one once its released at Walmart. The N7 is an awesome device and for its size alone is why I think it suits my needs better but until I have the N10 I won't know.
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So i have made the decision to go with the Nexus 10. If the hardware specs were swapped around, i would still go for the Nexus 10. I'm wanting a tablet that was going to last at least it's warranty, wasn't going to go "out dated". I feel the screen specifically will be the benchmark for future tablets. That and i don't think there's any reason to go any higher on the resolution part, and i'm picky!
Thank you for the few on XDA that gave me some truly valid input! But i'm now plagued with "Out of Stock" on google. I will have my Nexten!
Stevan
I have both.
Nexus 10:
PROS:
- You can surf the web like your computer does 100% all the time. (ex: you don't need tapatalk for this forum, I use it in the nexus 7).
- Everysingle Google app it's better IMO. They use the Tablet version, while the Nexus 7 uses modified smartphone versions.
- Screen it's out of this world and has better sensitivity (read below).
- This probably nobody said it before: Nexus 7 lacks good sensitivity in shorter distances. I really like to draw in my tablet, I have a Dagi Stylus and it works like a charm in both tablets. But when I try to draw like 1cm. lines in the nexus 7 (or simply details) it doesn't work, you gotta always zoom in, which some times in unpleasant. If you don't zoom in it draws nothing or like a pixel so it's like there is a longer detection threshold or something (can be the software also, idk). All this in "Sketchbook PRO" app.
- Sketchbook PRO lags a lot in the Nexus 7 and seems not really optimized at least, IDK (it gets worse as you add more layers and more detail to my image). In the other hand it flies in my Nexus 10 even drawing pixels (x2) it seems fluid and the stylus works great. (You can't change the canvas size in sketchbook PRO, it's always 2560x1504 I think). It's way easier to work in tiny distances when I bought my Nexus 10 it was one of the first things I tried since it was so much fail in the Nexus 7. See in the Sketch I did the morning it arrived without too much efford without having to Zoom in and zoom out to draw some random lines of grass to add some noise to the ground.
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- Battery seems similar to me (I usually don't play anything in my tablets).
- Sound it WAY WAY WAY better, you can feel the sounds coming in diferent directions.
- Whatever they said I love all the design all around.
- Reading documents it's 100% reliable in the Nexus 10 and sometimes feels short in the Nexus 7 as not all of your doucments are formatted for the screen, you may not be able to read wide PDF's in the Nexus 7 confortably. Nexus 10 works for everything. Which for me was one the most importan features of the tablet.
- Overall seems faster in the OS than the Nexus 7 and faster in this games also: Final fantasy III, Chaos rings.
- You got a rear camera (which I'll never use).
- You a rear camera LED (which I'll frequently use as a light), with a switch widget.
CONS:
- It's heavier and after one hour of holding it you can feel it. Like your hands feel really tired.
- It's wider so you must use it like a tray (90% of the time you will hold it as a tray). Sucks.
- It's bigger and I feel discouraged to take it with me everywhere. I don't think I would take it to my work.
- Some smartphone optimized apps feels like "decent" in the Nexus 7 in the Nexus 10 they look horrible. And there's several of them.
- Some apps crash the tablet. There's several of them also.
- Charging is slow.
- As you read with the lights off, the Nexus 10 and his Bigger screen throws a sillion more light into your eyes, result: Eyes more tired.
- No Tegra 3 optimized games.
- No $20 bucks for apps.
Nexus 7:
PROS:
- Light as a feather, I never got tired of holding it in my hand. Super confortable.
- Perfect wide. There's so many positions to hold it.
- Size and weight feels perfect for carrying around, sometime in the future I may just get a Nokia 3310 and a Nexus 7 with 3g.
- Smartphone apps don't feel that weird.
- Had just a couple of crashes in 2 months. One being after drwaing like 2 hours in Sketchbook, I was sooo pissed.
- Charging is decent.
- Everygame android game in earth should work on this Tegra 3 baby.
- Cheap as hell. Feels like I'm robbing the store.
- For this price it's more premium than the most premium.
- Screen it's really good, you can barely barely see the pixels here.
- It's stylish and cool.
- Size and price it's the perfect balanced between everything. You sacrifice a little functionality for moviility, etc. 10" tablets can do this as well if you dare.
- When I bought it I got $20 bucks for google play apps (idk if that exist anymore).
CONS:
- Cannot 100% replace your laptop web surfing. Screen falls short sometimes.
- Bad screen sensitivity (or maybe bad optimized app, read above).
- Batterys seems similar to me.
- Average / just decent sound. (maybe bad sometimes)
- Several of them came with screen defects (mine included), it's not really a big problem, but WTF.
- As I said, Google apps use a slighly smartphone modified apps for the nexus 7, in the other hand, for the Nexus 10 they use the tablet app.
- Reading bad optimized documents can be a pain in the a** (usually pdf's with wide white colums at the sides which are really really common), with infinite zooming panning, etcetera. If your document has no ilustrations you can work around it, but with them no.
Overall I use more the Nexus 10. Nexus 7 seems excellent for short travels and stuff like that etcetera. But for me in day to day use at home. No doubt. I preffer the big one.
I am saying that as a HAPPY Nexus 10 owner, if you're using this for music creation/editing purposes, make sure first that they have applications that fit your needs on the google play store. As much as I love android, its gaming selection, the awesome ability to root your device, etc., I do admit Apple does have a good amount of apps we don't yet or ever will get, and I know on the Mac side of things Media creation of ANY type is usually better than PC, and I also say that as a PC user and general Anti-Apple person. So if music creation/editing is your #1 concern, you might just have to bite the bullet. Or the Apple.

[INFO] Motorola MotoACTV Root/Rom/Info Thread

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I figured since there is finally a place to post this, I will do so here. There is currently ongoing development for the Motorola MotoACTV smart watch. It began simply as a fitness watch, but has evolved with root, recovery, and roms into the best android watch available.
AND IT CAME OUT IN NOVEMBER OF 2011.
Interesting, yes? Let me get you some details from our current wiki (http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/home, started from the members right here on xda):
Code:
Hardware Specs:
Processor: 600MHz OMAP3 (3630) ARMv7 CPU supporting ARM architecture:
- thumb, vfp, vfpv3, edsp & neon. (overclockable to 1Ghz currently)
256MB of RAM and 8GB of NAND Flash Memory (Or 16 GB)
Wifi 802.11B/G/N
Bluetooth 4.0 (low-power mode)
ANT+ for connectivity to fitness sensors (heart rate, etc.)
FM Tuner (with Radio Data System for station & song identification)
PowerVR GPU
1.6" 220x176 capacitive multitouch LCD display
5 hardware buttons on the side:
- (Start, Music, Volume +, Volume -, Standby/Power)
1 additional capacitive button on the front for 'back button'.
Ambient light sensor
White charging and notification LEDs
Accelerometer
GPS
So now that you're intrigued, let me give you some resources to get you started!
Main XDA Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399692
Root Tool and Image Flasher:
MAKE SURE YOU CHARGE TO 100% BEFORE DOING ANY OF THIS!!!
http://www.cleardroidroms.com/motoactv.php
I MEAN IT!!! CHARGE TO 100% BEFORE DOING ANY FLASHING!!!
Overclocking:
Dproldan's Overclock - Easy windows installer in this post
Roms:
ClearDroid MotoACTV
DPRom for MotoACTV
ReACTV Rom
RunKeeperACTV for MotoACTV
FreeFly ROM
CEnnis91's stock roms/AnyRoot
Custom Watch Faces:
Custom Watch Faces Thread
Bluetooth PAN Tethering Instructions (Internet via Bluetooth from Phone to Watch)
Saeviomage's Tutorial
MotoACTV TCX Exporter:
SuperDave's MotoACTV TCX data exporter thread
Known working apps
Known working apps thread
IF YOU DIDN'T LISTEN AND ARE NOW "LOW BATTERY" AND CANNOT FLASH:
First thing's first. It will probably still charge on the wall charger or a car charger. Try that first. But, if it won't...
(or if you're just an avid flasher,) I'd also recommend you get one of these to help you out of jams: Motorola Factory Cable. The one at that link from Team Black Hat is typically out of stock, but a search of the words "Motorola Factory Fastboot Cable" on eBay can get you one for between $5-8. This cable does not charge your unit and does not come with the MotoACTV.
Any questions? Please post below. And GET YOUR ACTV ON!
Re: Motorola MotoACTV
What's the cost?
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Re: Motorola MotoACTV
Mine brand new when they first came out was $249 for the 8g, but substantially lower now, I'm sure.
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I just bought one as well but it still cost me $240 on amazon.
Re: Motorola MotoACTV
eBay is always good.
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Update: just checked, they're going for $50-200 on ebay, lots are on there for sale.
Also, I will be updating the first post of this thread with any info/links that you guys need. We would love for more development of this device, since we've been doing it for months/years now.
Wow this seems great! Youtube and a browser. I recently bought myself the Sony Smart Watch, and I was not too impressed with the battery life time, how is this ones?
I also managed to ruin my SmartWatch, but I'm gonna get it refunded from the store I'll probably get this from eBay! Is there any bugs/problems I should know about from the Motorola watch?
I get mine tomorrow, and my only concern/question is how well this handles Bluetooth tethering. I use FoxFi and PDAnet with phone and tablet and i'm hoping I can use the same with the motoactv.
Jakmalmo said:
Wow this seems great! Youtube and a browser. I recently bought myself the Sony Smart Watch, and I was not too impressed with the battery life time, how is this ones?
I also managed to ruin my SmartWatch, but I'm gonna get it refunded from the store I'll probably get this from eBay! Is there any bugs/problems I should know about from the Motorola watch?
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Not really. Battery life for me is around a week, sometimes more if I turn it off at night. I don't leave bluetooth or wifi on unless I need them though, and keep the brightness around half. I also turned off the shake-to-wake feature, as my watch was turning on when I was just walking around and using up battery life with the screen on lol.
But, for such a tiny battery, a week is pretty good in my opinion. Either way, you can just charge it every night if you're a heavy user. Keep in mind, this isn't like those other "smart watches" that only issue notifications, this is a full blown android device.
Joescan said:
I get mine tomorrow, and my only concern/question is how well this handles Bluetooth tethering. I use FoxFi and PDAnet with phone and tablet and i'm hoping I can use the same with the motoactv.
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I know Nook Tether works on it for bluetooth tethering (internet pass through) I believe, but I'm not sure about the others. I've heard of PDAnet also, it might have been another that worked. I don't tether mine though, so I'm not sure.
The only thing I want different is the watch strap, and an XDA user is actually working on a better one right now. I can't wait!
Not really. Battery life for me is around a week, sometimes more if I turn it off at night. I don't leave bluetooth or wifi on unless I need them though, and keep the brightness around half. I also turned off the shake-to-wake feature, as my watch was turning on when I was just walking around and using up battery life with the screen on lol.
But, for such a tiny battery, a week is pretty good in my opinion. Either way, you can just charge it every night if you're a heavy user. Keep in mind, this isn't like those other "smart watches" that only issue notifications, this is a full blown android device.
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I'm leading an auction on eBay at the moment. The "Buy Now" alternatives is too expensive with shipping to Norway :/
A week battery time sounds good to me I had to charge my SmartWatch every day, and that wasn't a problem.
How's the Firefox browser and YouTube app working on the watch?
Jakmalmo said:
I'm leading an auction on eBay at the moment. The "Buy Now" alternatives is too expensive with shipping to Norway :/
A week battery time sounds good to me I had to charge my SmartWatch every day, and that wasn't a problem.
How's the Firefox browser and YouTube app working on the watch?
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Youtube works great, not sure about Firefox though. I think some people used Boat browser or something and had fine results with it.
Is there a way to keep the display on to use as a watch, without pushing a button? How much space does the OS use? Is Ebay prefer over Amazon for purchase?
ronaldheld said:
Is there a way to keep the display on to use as a watch, without pushing a button? How much space does the OS use? Is Ebay prefer over Amazon for purchase?
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It has shake to wake, where you shake your wrist and the display turns on. The os doesn't use much, maybe 200mb or something. I've got the 8 gig version and have plenty of space, even with roms. However, the space for installing apps is limited for the time being. I'm not sure, but there might be a way to partition the space on the device to get more app space.
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I was unaware of the shake to awaken. I will go for the 8 Gb unit when I get the funds. More reading needs to be done to see which ROM may be the best for me. How hard is it for someone to generate a customized ROM without extensive training?
ronaldheld said:
I was unaware of the shake to awaken. I will go for the 8 Gb unit when I get the funds. More reading needs to be done to see which ROM may be the best for me. How hard is it for someone to generate a customized ROM without extensive training?
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The hardest part is the script lol. Making one work is not easy. I've been working on roms for years now and this is the most finicky device I've ever seen.
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I will have to pass on this activity fir now. Does any ROM support an audible alarm and customized time date screen?
It doesn't have a built in speaker. I'm sure you can get the alarm to show on the screen though?
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That could be a problem I was thinking of using the alarm in the morning and when needed. Off to see one at VZW today.
The store did not have any, demo or for sale.
ronaldheld said:
That could be a problem I was thinking of using the alarm in the morning and when needed. Off to see one at VZW today.
The store did not have any, demo or for sale.
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Cool! Let us know what you think! Of course, the one you see won't be rooted or have a regular android launcher on it yet.
I have decided to buy one, preferably at less than ~$250. I would prefer new versus used since they are discontinued and i am uncertain about warrantee. Maybe i can afford to order one next week. No doubt I will have questions, if rooting does not go smoothly.
ronaldheld said:
I have decided to buy one, preferably at less than ~$250. I would prefer new versus used since they are discontinued and i am uncertain about warrantee. Maybe i can afford to order one next week. No doubt I will have questions, if rooting does not go smoothly.
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Just make sure it's charged to 100% before you start, and use the root tool with a windows machine. It should be easy as pie.

Bugs!

Just to put this post in some context. I have been buying mobile phones since around 1988? I have owned most brands types with different OS the lot. I have never had a bug problem with ANY of my past mobiles including those from Samsung like the Nexus S, SGS11, SGS3, SG Note.
This is NOT a bash Samsung nor bash the Note3 post.
I purchased my Note 3 on the day of introduction to the market along with the Gear, 25 09 13. Since that time I have had to factory reset my Note FOUR times through ?Bugs?. First bug was the notification sound kept going off every few moments for 24 hours all night long. It nearly went through the window. Had to turn it off spend hours next day trying to find the cause, couldn't so I factory reinstalled the phone. All good for a week, then S-voice and this is the big bug, it keeps answering me even though its shut off!
All of a sudden it will speak to me and say it cant find what ever the conversation may be I am having at the time? Seems to have a complete mind of its own so much so my family have started to sit around the phone when we chat to allow the Note to partake? Its surreal. Factory reset twice and still the same.
I am also having other programmes open when I am not activating them. Several programmes also seem to have a mind of their own?
This is not me, thank God, I have yet to go completely gaga, my family are actually asking to set the phone down so we can see what its going to do next!
Would there be a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 exorcist available in the membership? Its gone from being annoying to a cause of much amusement for my family but its truly getting on my t1ts
Any suggestions, apart from burning it at the stake, would be welcomed. :cyclops:
Many thanks in advance.:good:
Kind regards
I havent experienced any of those problems. The only problem I have is the my magazine app keeps crashing.
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I think you should return the device to a samsung service centre to swap phones, sound like you really have a bugged one, i bought mine within the same week and so far so good, no problems or hickups whatsoever. For me it's the 1st samsung device i am truly 100% happy with. (had the i9000/i9100/i9300/N7000/N7100 and now the N9005)
All of them had their own bad things, for example S1 had RFS filesystem lagsauce, S2 had EMMC brickbug like the Note1, S3 and note2 had the suddendeath bug and not to forget the AMOLED build quality on all phones.
Hope you get yours fixed/swapped for a good one.
I've had a couple problems with phone freezing, soft buttons not responding but I realized it was the app "Android Tuner" that caused it.
But without Android Tuner the phone works flawlessly like my other Samsung ones.
Sorry to hear about your problems though.
Runs fine here although I did disable some bloat including S Voice since I prefer Google's better.
Ryland Johnson said:
All good for a week, then S-voice and this is the big bug, it keeps answering me even though its shut off!
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It sounds like you have S Voice set to always listen which includes when the device is off. The SGS2 used to have this feature but it chugged battery. I like and use this feature, for example to call someone when my phone's sitting on my desk without having to pick it up until the person I'm calling picks up. If they don't I can leave a message via speakerphone. All without ever having touched the phone. This feature's return is Samsung's answer to LG's Knock On.
I have S-voice deactivated so it cannot function yet it does?
My family find this hilarious. I was in the rest room this evening sitting on the loo, to be blunt I began with wind and the bloody deactivated S-voice asked me to repeat what I had said as she didn't catch that and then asked if I wanted it to look for Pruuup on Google! I swore at the phones (sorry about the lack of self control) and S-voice told me to calm down! THIS IS ridiculous.
My grandson now wants to play with the darn thing and I find him having a conversation with this lady known as S-voice.
I shall well be in the dog house if I do manage to resolve this most annoying and very peculiar problem!:silly:
I repeat the S-voice is not even turned on. I actually found myself looking this evening in the loo for hidden cameras expecting to find myself on some TV, 'You have been had' sort of game. What began as odd turned to rather humorous, now I am talking to some lady on a mobile phone who is telling me to keep calm. Any one know the phone number of the FBI? I think I have been bugged?
Hey I could write a book and it could be made into a film. The phone that came to life and.....Oh dear......I might not like the ending
I have looked in the mirror and psychoanalysed myself and I appear as bonkers as 'normal', nothing new....What on earth can be doing this?
I dare not return it to the store as no one will believe me unless my family are at my side and they like the mobile as it is. The other point that worries me is should I take it back and the phone behaves itself I could find myself being carted away by two men in white coats for a psychiatric evaluation? Knowing my luck S-voice lady, she would keep stum until I was discharged then chuckle at me as I walked away from the fruit and nut ward!:silly:
Ryland Johnson said:
I have S-voice deactivated so it cannot function yet it does?
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You mentioned you have a Gear. It uses the phone's S Voice app to function. When a Gear's connected I don't know if you can fully disable S Voice on the phone. I occasionally get "microphone in use by another application" errors on both the phone and Gear so mic control between the two isn't perfect yet. Maybe that's related to your issue.
BarryH_GEG said:
You mentioned you have a Gear. It uses the phone's S Voice app to function. When a Gear's connected I don't know if you can fully disable S Voice on the phone. I occasionally get "microphone in use by another application" errors on both the phone and Gear so mic control between the two isn't perfect yet. Maybe that's related to your issue.
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Yes I have the Gear. Oddly enough (to date) this S-voice situation only occurs when my Gear is turned OFF? If I use the gear the problem goes?
Thanks for mentioning that even though I still have no idea what to do about it.
I wonder if Stephen King would like to buy a mobile?
Ryland Johnson said:
Yes I have the Gear. Oddly enough (to date) this S-voice situation only occurs when my Gear is turned OFF? If I use the gear the problem goes?
Thanks for mentioning that even though I still have no idea what to do about it.
I wonder if Stephen King would like to buy a mobile?
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There have been two updates to Gear Manager. The last one really improved the connection between the phone and the Gear. Make sure you update to it. Also, hard reset your Gear before connecting it to the updated Gear Manager. All your apps and settings on the Gear will be restored. Hopefully that'll cure your haunted setup.
Telus Note 3 user here
I can tell you that I have tested all apps thoroughly and I have had absolutely No issues from day one fresh out of the box.
Stays cool and battery goes long. I downloaded multiple apps too from the Play Store, No problems at all so far.
I am planning to root after a while.
Ryland Johnson said:
Hey I could write a book and it could be made into a film. The phone that came to life and.....Oh dear......I might not like the ending
I have looked in the mirror and psychoanalysed myself and I appear as bonkers as 'normal', nothing new....What on earth can be doing this?
I dare not return it to the store as no one will believe me unless my family are at my side and they like the mobile as it is. The other point that worries me is should I take it back and the phone behaves itself I could find myself being carted away by two men in white coats for a psychiatric evaluation? Knowing my luck S-voice lady, she would keep stum until I was discharged then chuckle at me as I walked away from the fruit and nut ward!:silly:
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Lol, now before you go writing books on how the Note 3 is a failure, it really does sound like your specific phone is messed up. You can keep trying to fix it but it'll probably still mess up in some way.
And I'm pretty sure they'd believe you if you brought it in and it acted fine. But they'll probably just factory reset it. They think that's the answer to everything. Not sure of your carrier, but with Verizon I just have to call in and they'll troubleshoot it, and if it still doesn't work they send a replacement. And since the phone is still new it should be a new phone and not just a refurb.
Bring to service center. End of story.
Your issues is rare, some spirit inside the phone.
Best Device so Far
Hello all,
Am glad to be part of the Note3 N-9005 crew
coming from my good ol' GT-I9100 S2, which hardly had anything working wrong. I hardly had any trouble with my S2, no brickbug, etc, always kept testing new ROMs.
Now the Note3 seems more like an upgrade, an upgrade in terms of stability, power, RAM, and android power. plus the S Pen of course.
Having used it for like 2 weeks now, I am a hard user - I have seen no issues whatsoever till now. The phone works and flies flawlessly across apps when multitasking, switching to and fro S Pen is seamless. even the fast charge takes least time to charge the device till full.
So all in all, I find this is a very stable, very fast and better than any iOS spawns.
Regards and enjoy this phone
Nitish
Not to offend but wondering what kind of phones did OP use before Note 3.
willstay said:
Not to offend but wondering what kind of phones did OP use before Note 3.
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Non taken. Please read my initial post and you will find the answer:good:
N1T15H said:
Hello all,
Am glad to be part of the Note3 N-9005 crew
coming from my good ol' GT-I9100 S2, which hardly had anything working wrong. I hardly had any trouble with my S2, no brickbug, etc, always kept testing new ROMs.
Now the Note3 seems more like an upgrade, an upgrade in terms of stability, power, RAM, and android power. plus the S Pen of course.
Having used it for like 2 weeks now, I am a hard user - I have seen no issues whatsoever till now. The phone works and flies flawlessly across apps when multitasking, switching to and fro S Pen is seamless. even the fast charge takes least time to charge the device till full.
So all in all, I find this is a very stable, very fast and better than any iOS spawns.
Regards and enjoy this phone
Nitish
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I am as surprised ad baffled as you are. I wrote in my opening remarks that this is THE first phone, form any brand since 1988, I have ever owned that has had a problem including numerous Samsung's in the past three years. Guess its just my turn. EVERY device makes a lemon on times. This is to be expected.
If I keep the gear on the problem goes with regard the S-voice. I have yet again, for the fifth time, reset to factory settings today and lets see what happens. If it plays up again I will take it back and see what can be done. problem is in doing that the store just send all such devices back to Samsung's repair representative and I would be without the phone for maybe a month. After sales in this country is abysmal and getting worse as the financial crisis bites even deeper here.
I shall press on for now and see what happens.:good:
Regards.
Sync issues
Hi all,
I am experiencing this wierd bug on my note 3 with syncing of my google account. Device automatically disables sync for few of my google apps like Drive, Gmail, Calendar. Even if I enable sync, after a few hours the sync itself disables. Please note that this issue is not for all of my google apps, for eg. chrome and other google apps dont have this issue.
Does anyone know if something I should enable or do somewhere to resolve this annoyance?
Thanks

Le Pro 3 (US Version) First Impressions

Pulled the trigger during the flash sale on Tuesday and received it on Friday morning.
The look, touch, and feel of the phone is just awesome - despite being slightly bigger than my previous phone (HTC One M8). I like the polished metal body, getting used to the fingerprint sensor and feel that the camera is adequate for the price point of this phone. Definitely worths $326 (includes tax) for an unlocked Snapdragon 821 phone.
The phone is responsive, quick, and has sharp colors. Software (OS) is not as bad as expected, based on other "professional" reviews. Since I restored my setting from Google during the phone setup, I had Google Now launcher right away. I've uninstalled it temporarily to get the feel of the native OS, but didn't appreciate it much.
So running it with Google Now Launcher is as good as it gets. However, it will take some time getting used to some limitations - lack of quick settings, which have been moved to the recent apps menu; removal of the search functionality in Settings, lackluster notifications- definitely needs some polishing.
Despite earlier negative reports, Android Pay works just fine right out of the box.
So far, I have only three problems. I think they are related to sub par Bluetooth and USB drivers on the phone, and something weird with the IR blaster.
1. Android Auto wouldn't connect/work.
My car (2016 VW Passat) sees the phone when connected, but unable to connect. My other two Android phones have no issues connecting. I've noticed that upon connecting, the phone switches to USB charging only mode and disables other options for me.
I called Le Eco - they've asked me to be patient and wait for an upcoming update; however, they didn't provide any dates.
2. The other problem I've noticed is with Bluetooth streaming to (the same) car. Sometimes, it skips-coughs for a millisecond. It happens constantly on both LTE and WiFi connections.
3. IR blaster does not work. I've installed and tested multiple apps to no avail. My favorite one SURE remote control is listed as incompatible, so I had to install an APK instead; however, as I've stated it didn't work.
Edit: Got it to work with their built-in Remote app. Works for generic devices (TV, Amplifier); however, is missing DirectTV box - again, needs polishing for the US market. I had to manually add commands to it. It is unfortunate that it is proprietary IR blaster.
I'll be patient for a few weeks and if there is no resolution, I'll return the phone to Le Eco.
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Thanks so much. What kind of Screen on time are you getting for battery life? How is the screen itself?
PashaF said:
Pulled the trigger during the flash sale on Tuesday and received it on Friday morning.
The look, touch, and feel of the phone is just awesome - despite being slightly bigger than my previous phone (HTC One M8). I like the polished metal body, getting used to the fingerprint sensor and feel that the camera is adequate for the price point of this phone. Definitely worths $326 (includes tax) for an unlocked Snapdragon 821 phone.
The phone is responsive, quick, and has sharp colors. Software (OS) is not as bad as expected, based on other "professional" reviews. Since I restored my setting from Google during the phone setup, I had Google Now launcher right away. I've uninstalled it temporarily to get the feel of the native OS, but didn't appreciate it much.
So running it with Google Now Launcher is as good as it gets. However, it will take some time getting used to some limitations - lack of quick settings, which have been moved to the recent apps menu; removal of the search functionality in Settings, lackluster notifications- definitely needs some polishing.
Despite earlier negative reports, Android Pay works just fine right out of the box.
So far, I have only three problems. I think they are related to sub par Bluetooth and USB drivers on the phone, and something weird with the IR blaster.
1. Android Auto wouldn't connect/work.
My car (2016 VW Passat) sees the phone when connected, but unable to connect. My other two Android phones have no issues connecting. I've noticed that upon connecting, the phone switches to USB charging only mode and disables other options for me.
I called Le Eco - they've asked me to be patient and wait for an upcoming update; however, they didn't provide any dates.
2. The other problem I've noticed is with Bluetooth streaming to (the same) car. Sometimes, it skips-coughs for a millisecond. It happens constantly on both LTE and WiFi connections.
3. IR blaster does not work. I've installed and tested multiple apps to no avail. My favorite one SURE remote control is listed as incompatible, so I had to install an APK instead; however, as I've stated it didn't work.
I'll be patient for a few weeks and if there is no resolution, I'll return the phone to Le Eco.
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I think the it blaster is proprietary and doesn't use the standard sdk
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Thanks so much. What kind of Screen on time are you getting for battery life? How is the screen itself?
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Hard to say as I've been "abusing" the phone for the last couple of days, i.e. installing, restoring, configuring.
It will easily last for a full day under such "abuse"
I like the screen; however, I can't compare it to OLED, as I don't have an OLED phone.
How is the sound compare to HTC M8/M9 coming out of the bottom 2 speakers?
orangekid1 said:
How is the sound compare to HTC M8/M9 coming out of the bottom 2 speakers?
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To be honest, I never use phone speakers - either Bluetooth or headphones for me.
It sounds OK - can't complain.
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Cpu-Z Stats
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Phone felt too cheap compared to nexua 6p it's plastic coated with brushed metal
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digweed4me said:
Phone felt too cheap compared to nexua 6p it's plastic coated with brushed metal
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The phone does not feel cheap at all...
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The build quality is great. Battery life is around 6 hours plus. The only bad thing is OS. All we really need is CM or AOSP
LeEco Pro3
I've decided I'll probably keep the phone and hope they allow it to be unlocked. Worst case I'll sell it later on. The most important thing to me right now is battery life and if I can email and talk all day without a charge that's worth it to me.
toanau said:
The build quality is great. Battery life is around 6 hours plus. The only bad thing is OS. All we really need is CM or AOSP
LeEco Pro3
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I agree, though we'd lose Android Pay.
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PashaF said:
Pulled the trigger during the flash sale on Tuesday and received it on Friday morning.
The look, touch, and feel of the phone is just awesome - despite being slightly bigger than my previous phone (HTC One M8). I like the polished metal body, getting used to the fingerprint sensor and feel that the camera is adequate for the price point of this phone. Definitely worths $326 (includes tax) for an unlocked Snapdragon 821 phone.
The phone is responsive, quick, and has sharp colors. Software (OS) is not as bad as expected, based on other "professional" reviews. Since I restored my setting from Google during the phone setup, I had Google Now launcher right away. I've uninstalled it temporarily to get the feel of the native OS, but didn't appreciate it much.
So running it with Google Now Launcher is as good as it gets. However, it will take some time getting used to some limitations - lack of quick settings, which have been moved to the recent apps menu; removal of the search functionality in Settings, lackluster notifications- definitely needs some polishing.
Despite earlier negative reports, Android Pay works just fine right out of the box.
So far, I have only three problems. I think they are related to sub par Bluetooth and USB drivers on the phone, and something weird with the IR blaster.
1. Android Auto wouldn't connect/work.
My car (2016 VW Passat) sees the phone when connected, but unable to connect. My other two Android phones have no issues connecting. I've noticed that upon connecting, the phone switches to USB charging only mode and disables other options for me.
I called Le Eco - they've asked me to be patient and wait for an upcoming update; however, they didn't provide any dates.
2. The other problem I've noticed is with Bluetooth streaming to (the same) car. Sometimes, it skips-coughs for a millisecond. It happens constantly on both LTE and WiFi connections.
3. IR blaster does not work. I've installed and tested multiple apps to no avail. My favorite one SURE remote control is listed as incompatible, so I had to install an APK instead; however, as I've stated it didn't work.
Edit: Got it to work with their built-in Remote app. Works for generic devices (TV, Amplifier); however, is missing DirectTV box - again, needs polishing for the US market. I had to manually add commands to it. It is unfortunate that it is proprietary IR blaster.
I'll be patient for a few weeks and if there is no resolution, I'll return the phone to Le Eco.
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My phone is scheduled for delivery tomorrow and I am struggling with the decision to even open the package because the bootloader of the US version cannot be unlocked. Your impressions make that decision a little harder. I have never bought a phone I couldn't root. Thanks for taking the time to post.
I can deal with some minor shortcomings that can be patched. You don't get specs like this for $299 anywhere.
Anyone else have an issue with the recents menu going blank on the far left app?
PashaF said:
Pulled the trigger during the flash sale on Tuesday and received it on Friday morning.
The look, touch, and feel of the phone is just awesome - despite being slightly bigger than my previous phone (HTC One M8). I like the polished metal body, getting used to the fingerprint sensor and feel that the camera is adequate for the price point of this phone. Definitely worths $326 (includes tax) for an unlocked Snapdragon 821 phone.
The phone is responsive, quick, and has sharp colors. Software (OS) is not as bad as expected, based on other "professional" reviews. Since I restored my setting from Google during the phone setup, I had Google Now launcher right away. I've uninstalled it temporarily to get the feel of the native OS, but didn't appreciate it much.
So running it with Google Now Launcher is as good as it gets. However, it will take some time getting used to some limitations - lack of quick settings, which have been moved to the recent apps menu; removal of the search functionality in Settings, lackluster notifications- definitely needs some polishing.
Despite earlier negative reports, Android Pay works just fine right out of the box.
So far, I have only three problems. I think they are related to sub par Bluetooth and USB drivers on the phone, and something weird with the IR blaster.
1. Android Auto wouldn't connect/work.
My car (2016 VW Passat) sees the phone when connected, but unable to connect. My other two Android phones have no issues connecting. I've noticed that upon connecting, the phone switches to USB charging only mode and disables other options for me.
I called Le Eco - they've asked me to be patient and wait for an upcoming update; however, they didn't provide any dates.
2. The other problem I've noticed is with Bluetooth streaming to (the same) car. Sometimes, it skips-coughs for a millisecond. It happens constantly on both LTE and WiFi connections.
3. IR blaster does not work. I've installed and tested multiple apps to no avail. My favorite one SURE remote control is listed as incompatible, so I had to install an APK instead; however, as I've stated it didn't work.
Edit: Got it to work with their built-in Remote app. Works for generic devices (TV, Amplifier); however, is missing DirectTV box - again, needs polishing for the US market. I had to manually add commands to it. It is unfortunate that it is proprietary IR blaster.
I'll be patient for a few weeks and if there is no resolution, I'll return the phone to Le Eco.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...billionaire-confesses-to-cash-crunch-at-leeco Interesting timing for article.
Yeah between the bootloader being locked and the article I'm thinking I am going to refuse the shipment.
skywalkr2 said:
I can deal with some minor shortcomings that can be patched. You don't get specs like this for $299 anywhere.
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This is true.
XGrinder911 said:
Anyone else have an issue with the recents menu going blank on the far left app?
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I ha the dame issue. But with Google launcher no problem.
rivethead23 said:
Yeah between the bootloader being locked and the article I'm thinking I am going to refuse the shipment.
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The Bootloader can be unlocked - please see the below screenshots.
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