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While still waiting for my note to arrive i would love to hear from anyone who has recieved theres what they think so far and what featured aere the best if not all....i hate waiting but reading peoples veiws will do for now thx

I take it not alot of people got there phone then

Just Got mine yesterday. Uograded from note 1 gtn7000.. one word. Gnote 2 is awesome. So butery smooth! Better display also colors are much deeper. Battery life the best. All I can say is it is a very good choice. Benchmark awesome also. Killed iphone 5 on geekbench
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Does it have the multi-window feature seen on the Korean version?

Love all this fore play reviews hope mine turns up monday thx

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Does it have the multi-window feature seen on the Korean version?
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Good question, id like to know that too...
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Is there a piece of paper with official specifications? Can someone take a picture of it and post so we can finally see what cell bands it has?
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PierreTech said:
Just Got mine yesterday. Uograded from note 1 gtn7000.. one word. Gnote 2 is awesome. So butery smooth! Better display also colors are much deeper. Battery life the best. All I can say is it is a very good choice. Benchmark awesome also. Killed iphone 5 on geekbench
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Do you notice any black crush on dark scenes when you play videos on your note? how about screen tint on low and high brightness. does the note suffer from tint issues like the s3

Black clipping you mean?
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Black clipping you mean?
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Not sure what the difference is between black clipping and black crush, all i knw is that on my s3 when i view most videos with the exception of extremely high quality blu-ray rips, dark scenes appear to loose detail, as if the black become blocky almost like they are not rendering correctly. however bright scenes in daylight or well lit rooms tend to display fine. i was just wondering if the note 2 has solved these problems.
its a very common issues on super amoled hd

I couldn't find it on mine (GT-N7100, ordered from Expansys Austria, shipped from Marseille). I could'nt also find any hint in the englisch manual I downloaded from the Samsung Hongkong Site. I read in a short review that a long press on the back key should bring up the multiview side tab. It definitely doesn't on mine.
Beside the little less text on webpages (which doesn't disturb my surfing experience) I couldn't find a thing that is not better than on the N1.
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The plus points for me:
- The screen - brighter, crisper, by far better test result with the black clipping image presented on XDA, good outside visibility. Better automatic brightness handling as far as I'm concerned.
- The pen - oval, so that you can't miss the button side, thicker, longer, riffled button, smooth on the screen
- The battery - I used mine a lot during the day (as it is when you test a new gadget ) and I'm on 28% battery. Very impressed.
- The notification led in different colors.
- The speaker (clearer, more bass)
- Air View works much better than on the promo videos. Practicable and fun.
- Camera with a faster shutter and a lot of bells and whistles.
- Speed of the device - it's just fun to use it.
- Slightly better positioning of volume keys and power key - didn't press the power key by accident so far.
- of course a lot of software improvements but that may come to the N1 too.

Hmm pity about the missing multi-window feature. It looks really cool in that Korean promo video. I would guess it will come in a future update though. There is no reason to make it a Korean exclusive.
Otherwise great to see that you are enjoying the phone. Personally I was impressed with it right from the start but I remember there was a feeling of disappointment among some posters at the announcement. I think a lot of it was because of the slightly lower resolution on the screen. Also it wasn't quite clear at the time that the Note 2 uses RGB instead of Pentile. Anyway clearly the Note 2's screen is great which, combined with all the other upgrades, makes it a worthy successor to a great phone.

Someone needs to get a dump of the korean ROM and make if flashable on the N7000 Note ASAP!!!!!
That is such a killer feature to not have!
- Frank

Whats the multi window feature? I must had missed it

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Whats the multi window feature? I must had missed it
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908092

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Hmm pity about the missing multi-window feature. It looks really cool in that Korean promo video. I would guess it will come in a future update though. There is no reason to make it a Korean exclusive.
Otherwise great to see that you are enjoying the phone. Personally I was impressed with it right from the start but I remember there was a feeling of disappointment among some posters at the announcement. I think a lot of it was because of the slightly lower resolution on the screen. Also it wasn't quite clear at the time that the Note 2 uses RGB instead of Pentile. Anyway clearly the Note 2's screen is great which, combined with all the other upgrades, makes it a worthy successor to a great phone.
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Believe me, the Note 2 has so much AI built-in (smart stay, smart rotate, mouse hover, multi windows....i can go on all day) that it makes me realize the name "smartphone" is suddenly an apt one for the device. The quad core + 2GB RAM + full rgb amoled screen yield an experience much like using a laptop so please dont listen to the ones who do not have the device yet and start comparing it to iphone5 out of boredom...doing that is like comparing the note 2 to a 1985 Motorola first generation phone.
Also for the first time I have absolutely no desire to put any custom roms on the phone....the firmware on the note 2 as it is now is an absolute triumph....I cant imagine why anyone would load crap made from the bedroom of some hairless nerd when you have a platform produced by hundreds of professional engineers that went through proper QA

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Also for the first time I have absolutely no desire to put any custom roms on the phone....the firmware on the note 2 as it is now is an absolute triumph....I cant imagine why anyone would load crap made from the bedroom of some hairless nerd when you have a platform produced by hundreds of professional engineers that went through proper QA
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You may change your mind about that when you find out your current rom doesn't support multi-windows.
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eRode said:
I cant imagine why anyone would load crap made from the bedroom of some hairless nerd when you have a platform produced by hundreds of professional engineers that went through proper QA
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Because historically, that 'crap' has been better than what the engineers put out?
If custom roms weren't better, each in their own ways, then nobody would use them.
- Frank

I find this multiview issue to be weird. Cuz on the Swedish Note 2 manual that is the same as any N7100 it clearly states that multiview is available and how to activate it.
I saw a Swedish video of it with 4G obviously N7105 and sue enough. Multiview was shown.

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Yup. It clearly states that "this function might not be available for your region or depending on carrier brand"

What's up with the speed test app on N4?

As many people have used the ookla speed test to see their network speed on their nexus 4s, I've seen a lot of screenshots (and my own phone) that shows the speed test app resized to a little box, like so
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I initially thought it was because of the high resolution screen, but when I saw some speed tests on the galaxy nexus (which has the same resolution apart from the pixel width, both still 720p), it left me confused.
As you can see both Galaxy Nexii have the ookla speed test app taking up the entire screen aside from the software buttons.
Any explanation?
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the app needs to be updated for dpi purposes.

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the app needs to be updated for dpi purposes.
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Well like I said that's what I thought but look at the galaxy nexus
Gnex: 315 PPI
N4: 319 PPI
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Well like I said that's what I thought but look at the galaxy nexus
Gnex: 315 PPI
N4: 319 PPI
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either way. the app needs to be updated, cosmetic problem.

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either way. the app needs to be updated, cosmetic problem.
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Any deeper explanation? The fact that Android apps resize according to device (given that there are a multitude of them with different resolutions) means that the SpeedTest app on the N4 and GNex should resize nearly identically.
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Any deeper explanation? The fact that Android apps resize according to device (given that there are a multitude of them with different resolutions) means that the SpeedTest app on the N4 and GNex should resize nearly identically.
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Just contact the devs at SpeedTest on the email on their app and tell them its not maximizing the full screen estate for the Nexus 4.
It has no impact on the app itself, it's just cosmetics. The app itself functions 100% fine. Honestly, you're making it more complicated than it really is.

The app still works right? And I wouldn't call that a small box.
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The app still works right? And I wouldn't call that a small box.
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Yeah the app works as intended, it just doesn't maximize itself to 100%. My tablet did this as well but it was eventually updated and used full screen.
It's something to do with the DPI and Resolution of the screen, I can't explain it in detail but it goes somewhere between those lines.
Edit: In fact my tablet does it still.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p163/gbd270/Screenshot_2012-12-27-18-20-43.png
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ASUS Transformer TF101,
LED-backlit IPS LCD, capacitive touchscreen
Size 1280 x 800 pixels, 10.1 inches (~149 ppi pixel density)
NOTE: Both, my tablet and phone are on Android 4.2.1, so im not sure if its a 4.2.X issue or not, probably not as ive seen it in the past on my tablet.

zephiK said:
Just contact the devs at SpeedTest on the email on their app and tell them its not maximizing the full screen estate for the Nexus 4.
It has no impact on the app itself, it's just cosmetics. The app itself functions 100% fine. Honestly, you're making it more complicated than it really is.
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I never said it didn't function, my OP clearly states for an explanation. Unless you have something against curiosity, I'm not making anything more complicated. I never said I wanted a solution either, so contacting the devs doesn't help
And there's still no explanation as to why it is full on the Gnex but not on the N4
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Endoran said:
The app still works right? And I wouldn't call that a small box.
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I know, that was just in reference to the fact that it is smaller
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gagdude said:
I never said it didn't function, my OP clearly states for an explanation. Unless you have something against curiosity, I'm not making anything more complicated. I never said I wanted a solution either, so contacting the devs doesn't help
And there's still no explanation as to why it is full on the Gnex but not on the N4
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It's obviously something that bothers you, so yes contacting the devs would fix your problem and it would go back to full resolution similar to the GN. Like I said, it's DPI & Resolution, it's unsupported and the app doesn't know what to do. So it just leaves it in that format, it is downsized to a size that the app is familiar with. Hence why my tablet has almost the same size as the phone.
I shouldn't have to write a lecture on why it's like that. It's not a updated app, the app itself functions properly, just displays not fully on the screen.
App was last updated on June 5, 2012. So.............

zephiK said:
It's obviously something that bothers you, so yes contacting the devs would fix your problem and it would go back to full resolution similar to the GN. Like I said, it's DPI & Resolution, it's unsupported and the app doesn't know what to do. So it just leaves it in that format, it is downsized to a size that the app is familiar with. Hence why my tablet has almost the same size as the phone.
I shouldn't have to write a lecture on why it's like that. It's not a updated app, the app itself functions properly, just displays not fully on the screen.
App was last updated on June 5, 2012. So.............
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Please don't assume things. It doesn't bother me at all. I wouldn't give two ****s if it were stuck like this forever.
I just want to know WHY it is like this. Just saying "oh yeah DPI and resolution" doesn't help because in my OP that was my original assumption, but the GN does. The Galaxy Nexus has the same resolution as the N4 so the app is not "going back a resolution"
So why does the galaxy nexus display full size but the N4 does not? If you cannot answer this question then don't act like you can.
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The 320 PPI of the N4 screen pushes it into the 'extra high' screen density category, whereas the GNex will sit in the 'high' category.
It could be that the Speed Test app hasn't been optimised for the 'extra high' category yet. Given the design of the app it would likely require a new set of graphics.
Are there any devices with screens at 320+ PPI that Speed Test does scale correctly with?

Rusty2k said:
The 320 PPI of the N4 screen pushes it into the 'extra high' screen density category, whereas the GNex will sit in the 'high' category.
It could be that the Speed Test app hasn't been optimised for the 'extra high' category yet. Given the design of the app it would likely require a new set of graphics.
Are there any devices with screens at 320+ PPI that Speed Test does scale correctly with?
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Yup. The HTC Rezound, 341 ppi and 720p like the N4
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gagdude said:
Yup. The HTC Rezound, 341 ppi and 720p like the N4
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Just had a look at the build.prop from a Rezound, and interestingly it reports its LCD density is set to 320.
The N4 isn't 720p though, it's 768. I think this is most likely to be the problem and Speed Test hasn't been configured to scale to that aspect ratio, and is falling back to the next largest size down that it's been configured to scale to.

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Just had a look at the build.prop from a Rezound, and interestingly it reports its LCD density is set to 320.
The N4 isn't 720p though, it's 768. I think this is most likely to be the problem and Speed Test hasn't been configured to scale to that aspect ratio, and is falling back to the next largest size down that it's been configured to scale to.
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I read somewhere that was the problem. The app doesn't support 16:10 aspect ratio. Needs to be updated for that.
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Rusty2k said:
Just had a look at the build.prop from a Rezound, and interestingly it reports its LCD density is set to 320.
The N4 isn't 720p though, it's 768. I think this is most likely to be the problem and Speed Test hasn't been configured to scale to that aspect ratio, and is falling back to the next largest size down that it's been configured to scale to.
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I had a feeling the extra width pixels changed it somehow and I see the reasoning. Speed Test can scale to 720p but the extra 48 pixels horizontally confuses it.
Makes sense, but then wouldn't it fill in completely and leave 24 pixels to each side of it?
Took a look at the N4 build.prop, it's also 320. Does this make a difference?
Just thought of this but I think the Galaxy Nexus has more vertical pixels because of its aspect ratio. The N4 is 1184 vertical. So the Speed Test app saw the resolution as 1184x768 thus causing it to think it is below 720p and scaling to a lower resolution.
(I just answered the question myself there didn't I lol). Anyways your post helped me realize. Ty
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gagdude said:
I had a feeling the extra width pixels changed it somehow and I see the reasoning. Speed Test can scale to 720p but the extra 48 pixels horizontally confuses it.
Makes sense, but then wouldn't it fill in completely and leave 24 pixels to each side of it?
Took a look at the N4 build.prop, it's also 320. Does this make a difference?
Just thought of this but I think the Galaxy Nexus has more vertical pixels because of its aspect ratio. The N4 is 1184 vertical. So the Speed Test app saw the resolution as 1184x768 thus causing it to think it is below 720p and scaling to a lower resolution.
(I just answered the question myself there didn't I lol). Anyways your post helped me realize. Ty
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Single page wallpaper size for the Galaxy Nexus is 1184x720. N4 is 1184x768. Both are below 1280 due to the navbar. Its the 768 part of the N4 that causes this. I contacted the maker of the speed test app when I first got my N4 but never received a response and the app hasn't been updated in months. One of the few apps that doesn't automatically scale correctly.

Monk4Life said:
Single page wallpaper size for the Galaxy Nexus is 1184x720. N4 is 1184x768. Both are below 1280 due to the navbar. Its the 768 part of the N4 that causes this. I contacted the maker of the speed test app when I first got my N4 but never received a response and the app hasn't been updated in months. One of the few apps that doesn't automatically scale correctly.
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Strange. I thought the Galaxy Nexus had more vertical pixels because of this:
That's the gnex
Now here is N4 screenshot of same menu in same launcher
As you can see the Galaxy Nexus shows more menu items at once, which is what I believed to be because it has a higher vertical pixel count... But its not so?
EDIT: nvm N4 has books app
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Guess the 768 horizontal resolution just confused the app. Still wondering why the app wouldn't just center itself and leave 24 blank pixels to either side of it while going completely from top to bottom though...?
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This shouldn't be acceptable on a $550+ tablet!....Right?

We've all paid a premium pricing for a premium quality tablet experience and so far with the updates, its been getting better and better. However, I downloaded the racing game Asphalt 8 because I noticed a lot of review sites using this as an example in the over the graphics tablet comparasions (mainly the iPad Air and Mini). And I was taken aback when I went into setting, thinking that I would be able to max this puppy out graphically. However, the highest graphics quality I was able to select was "Low"!
Really,...."low" on a $550+ top of the line device is truly unacceptable.
I'm not sure if I should be upset with Samsung because of its in house Exynos variant as compared to the Snapdragon, or with Gamelofts graphics engine. All I know is that I'm kinda upset with both companies right now, because at the end of the day, you and I as the consumer are the ones that paid the premium price tag and ultimately suffer.
What's weird is that my buddy installed the same game on his T-Mobile GALAXY Note 2 ( which has an older Exynos processor) and got to choose the highest graphics options.
Is it just my tablet, and if not, who should I be talking to, to get this issue resolved. I love this tablet and I use it mostly for work and productivity, but when I want to relax and game, I want a gaming experience device that reflects the pricing.
Thanks for letting me blow off a little steam, but this is absolutely ridiculous!
Please share your thoughts below.
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Try the developers
Email the developers about the problem. I'm sure they can fix it to enable max graphics for the tablet.

Be upset with gameloft, not samsung...
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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?

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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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Punkmilitia, I just forwarded this post to gameloft, so I will update soon with their response. Hopefully it'll be good news, we'll see.
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What's weird is that my buddy installed the same game on his T-Mobile GALAXY Note 2 ( which has an older Exynos processor) and got to choose the highest graphics options.
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It's not weird at all. The N10.1-14 has an image area of 45 square inches while the N2's image area is 13.5 square inches. So the N10.1-14 is pushing 13,455 pixels (45 square inches x 299 PPI) while the N2's pushing 2,255 (13.5 square inches x 167 PPI). The Note 3 is 14.8 square inches so it's pushing 5,742 pixels (14.8 square inches x 388 PPI). That means the N10.1-14 is pushing 83% more pixels than the N2 and 57% more than the N3.
Mali-T628 in the Exynos N10.1-14 and Adreno 330 in the S-800 version are both excellent; but they have their work cut out for them based on the size and pixel density of the N10.1-14's display. So comparing high PPI tablets to their phone counterparts isn't really apples-to-apples when discussing performance.

There are exactly two tablets with 2560 x 1600 resolution out right now, so it's not surprising that the app doesn't recognize the Note's native resolution. It's not that the tablet can't run max settings, it's that the app doesn't know what the max settings are because it doesn't understand what resolution it's looking at.

You also have to remember that when developing an app for Android, think about all of the various Android devices of differemt screen sizes, hardware, versions of Android, etc., that the developer has to contend with.
When someone is developing an app for an iOS device, those numbers are significantly lower since Apple controls hardware/software to a much more in-depth degree. If a developer is making an app for current gen devices that means they likely only have to support iOS 7, and 3-4 devices vs hundreds.

Wow. Um. Okay.
I'm not sure if I should be upset with Samsung because of its in house Exynos variant as compared to the Snapdragon
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First off, the Exynos has tested faster than the Snapdragon. It's a faster processor.
Two, that's not the GPU. The GPU is the Mali-T628.
Third, the GPU benchmarks REALLY well.
Fourth, why would you assume that because an app doesn't LET you choose higher quality settings that it's the TABLET'S problem?
Jeeeeeeez, some people...

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Punkmilitia, I just forwarded this post to gameloft, so I will update soon with their response. Hopefully it'll be good news, we'll see.
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Good. Hopefully they see it and add the 10.1 to the list if devices capable of doing higher than low settings.

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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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Just emailed them as well. Hopefully this isn't an issue with our tablets, although I'm beginning to think that it is since I can't even stream HD content from Google Play Movies or even YouTube..:banghead:
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I suggest downloading Dead Trigger 2. It's free and really shows off the capabilities of the hardware

neevz said:
Just emailed them as well. Hopefully this isn't an issue with our tablets, although I'm beginning to think that it is since I can't even stream HD content from Google Play Movies or even YouTube..:banghead:
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You sure that's not just an internet problem? Anyone else want to check if they can on theirs? This is starting to look worrying. I hope I don't have all these problems when mine comes otherwise I will just stick with my iPad..

Gameloft has a few games that don't even run on the galaxy 10.1 2014. N.O.V.A 3 craps out after the splash screen and its been that way for weeks. I contacted game loft and no answer on it whatsoever. So, who knows, maybe they don't care.

Hanson68 said:
There are exactly two tablets with 2560 x 1600 resolution out right now, so it's not surprising that the app doesn't recognize the Note's native resolution. It's not that the tablet can't run max settings, it's that the app doesn't know what the max settings are because it doesn't understand what resolution it's looking at.
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There are at least 4 if you exclude variants:
Nexus 10
Asus TF701T
Toshiba Excite Pro
Note 10.1 2014
With the N10 being out over a year and the Toshiba launched this past summer, surely SOMEONE has used this game on this res.

Good news
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Good news
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We some job dude! My body is ready for the update.

not limitation on my device
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Can anyone else check if they are limited to low setting only as well please? Have you emailed Gameloft yet, OP?
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I am using Samsung galaxy note10.1 2014 edition as well and no limitation on the Graphics settings

No prob with my galaxy note p605.

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Gameloft has a few games that ... maybe they don't care.
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That is Gameloft. They make (maybe) great games but they didn't know how to write apps for Android since years. Every new device with different specs have this problem with their games. And yes, their customer support is always bad...
Normally they have to be informed and after some updates, they can handel the new specs.

Tom'sGuide review: Droid Turbo w/ 3900mAh = 9.5 hrs, HTC M8 w/ 2600mAh = 10 hrs. WTH?

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The HTC One M8 with it's 2600mAh battery is kicking the Droid Turbos 3,900mAh battery's ass?
Jesus Motorola, no one gives a damn about 565 vs 400 pixels per inch on a mere 5.2 inch screen... simply put a 1080p screen in there and give us MOAR battery life!

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I saw this too. Makes no sense to me. I mean, I get that the D.T. has more pixels to light up but the battery is 50% larger and comes with a near stock version of Android. How does HTC do it? Is there a trade off I'm not hearing about?

Just said this in another thread lol:Tom's Hardware is a great site, but I've never held a lot of stock in their battery test. 50 random "popular" websites browsed on a data network, screen on the whole time. This allows for variables in the graphics of the websites over time, what websites were used, the network's traffic and the device's proximity to a tower. It only tests the phone's screen on battery performance, nothing to do with standby. You might say that doesn't matter, but then you've never owned a Touchwiz device.
That being said, there's no way it will as good on battery as the Maxx. The 805 is an efficiency improvement in design, but this is a 2.7ghz quad-core processor with biggest GPU Qualcomm's ever released, compared to the dual-core modified S4 Pro in the Maxx. Oh and 4 times as many pixels but only another 400mah added? No way it's holding up. Still, if the Turbo charger is as fast as it's supposed to be, I'm not really worried.

Are all these phones running the EXACT same apps at the EXACT same time for the EXACT same length of time (not just "we surfed the web the exact same way - what was running in the background)? Was the strength of signal IDENTICAL for each phone's test (post claims iphone6 was on AT&T, not VZW)? Too many variables left out in a simple graph.

El Perfecto said:
I saw this too. Makes no sense to me. I mean, I get that the D.T. has more pixels to light up but the battery is 50% larger and comes with a near stock version of Android. How does HTC do it? Is there a trade off I'm not hearing about?
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No clue really Will need to see what more good review websites have to say.
Here's Gizmodo's claim on the battery life: http://gizmodo.com/droid-turbo-is-here-but-about-that-battery-1652801400
Yes, the new Droid Turbo has curb appeal. It has a massive battery, a 2K display and a blazing fast mobile processor, but it's also basically just a beefier Moto X that's locked to Verizon's network. The battery is the biggest difference. And in early tests, it looks like that battery may not deliver.
After setting up my 64GB ballistic nylon reviewer's unit, downloading my usual apps and logging into way too many accounts, I slipped the Turbo on its charger and filled up to 100 percent overnight. In the morning, off the cord at 8 AM, I've used the smartphone quite a bit, but still well within the realm of normal use. I listened to Spotify on my commute, used Google Maps to find my way to a meeting, snapped some photos at said meeting, recorded about an hour of audio, and Google Maps'ed my way back to the office. Now all of that may seem like a lot, but I didn't stream any video or play any games. For the rest of the day, I checked a few messages, took a few more pictures, and pretty much just let Moto Display blink on and off in standby mode. By the time I left work, I was at 35 percent.
After that, I listened to some more music, did some light web browsing, and traversed through a few Vines. My phone was dead by 11am the next day.
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if all this is true what going to be the battery life on Nexus 6 with larger display and smallest battery, can MOTOROLA faild with this issues

I can't put much stock in a test this fast unless they had it a week already. Needs time to settle in. Google now alone is a battery killer until it learns your habbits.

joshm.1219 said:
Just said this in another thread lol:Tom's Hardware is a great site, but I've never held a lot of stock in their battery test. 50 random "popular" websites browsed on a data network, screen on the whole time. This allows for variables in the graphics of the websites over time, what websites were used, the network's traffic and the device's proximity to a tower. It only tests the phone's screen on battery performance, nothing to do with standby. You might say that doesn't matter, but then you've never owned a Touchwiz device.
That being said, there's no way it will as good on battery as the Maxx. The 805 is an efficiency improvement in design, but this is a 2.7ghz quad-core processor with biggest GPU Qualcomm's ever released, compared to the dual-core modified S4 Pro in the Maxx. Oh and 4 times as many pixels but only another 400mah added? No way it's holding up. Still, if the Turbo charger is as fast as it's supposed to be, I'm not really worried.
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Wow 4x the pixels. I didn't do the math but .2" larger screen and stepping up from 720 to quad hd, I believe you. I can understand the advantage in having the most ppi as a selling point, personal taste and all I would rather have had better battery life and a 1080 screen. We'll see though. Everyone here is saying be patient, wait a couple weeks and check reviews on how the battery is holding up. I can do that.

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Wow 4x the pixels. I didn't do the math but .2" larger screen and stepping up from 720 to quad hd, I believe you. I can understand the advantage in having the most ppi as a selling point, personal taste and all I would rather have had better battery life and a 1080 screen. We'll see though. Everyone here is saying be patient, wait a couple weeks and check reviews on how the battery is holding up. I can do that.
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Yeah well at least a week. I'll be posting my charging and battery findings in a few days, you do need to give new lithium-ion cells some time to settle in. I would definitely rather have 1080p, QHD is the dumbest spec grab that the industry has had in awhile. Why these companies are spending so much more money on the display panel, which is already the most expensive part of the device, just to up its resolution is beyond me. A resolution that almost no apps support, almost no content supports, and isn't even technically discernible to the human eye. But whatever, still a lovely screen.

Startes at 81% 8 hrs ago...instakled all apps and 2 hrs screen time and i am at 50%...just overall it seems the turb is sipping battery. Early but much better than note 4 so far

Battery Life Extension

Hi Everyone, I dont have a Nexus 6 yet...waiting on Verizon to do its thing but I cant really stop thinking about the potential battery savings that this thing can do. I'm seeing a couple battery threads where people have posted the screens of ok battery life. 6 to 7 hours is the general feeling I get. Since I don't have one yet I would love if a couple of you could appease me in trying this and test.
Anyhow what I'm thinking is two fold, one that huge resolution, and two that insane clock speed.
While both of those are bad ass stats, I think for an everyday carry phone most of the time you wont need them that high.
As many of you know but Ill write it down anyway the resolution of this thing is a massive 1440 x 2560. That is 3,686,400 pixels!
In my humble opinion, when your doing stuff all day and just want battery instead of crystal clearness then I think it might be a worth while trade off to bump it down.
If some of you could try this and post back to this thread it would be awesome. Maybe this will help some of you heavy users out their! Watch it be worthless. :silly:
NEED ROOT FOR BOTH THINGS.
Install a resolution changing app like THIS one (i havent really investigated which one is the best) (Also if you want to do it the legit way then I think you can do it through build.prop editor... id imagine that ends up with better results however the app seems simpler)
The device is 16:9.
Try these resolutions and go low as you think looks usable. At least try the top 2. The other ones I'm just playing with the math because they aren't so standard as the first two.
1080×1920 HD (2,073,600 pixels) 370 DPI
720x1280 720p (921,600 pixels) 246 DPI
900x1600 (1440000 pixels) 308 DPI
765x1360 (1040400 pixels) 262 DPI
Also For DPI Bigger number means bigger image, you might want to play with it for comfort. Please tell your dpi. If your playing a little with it then HERE is a dpi counter (Know that the diagonal measurement of the Nexus 6 is 5.96 inches)
If 720x1280 looks decent then id be happy. While I do not know how much this will help battery as I cant test it myself (I currently have a gnex which is 720 so I can only go down to something thats near sd which sd to 720 is not exactly a huge jump) in my mind something small like a phone or even a phablet will at least look decent at 720p...its only 5.96inches. Although i guess you are getting away from the screens native res which can make images look blurrier.
Why do I think this will help? Because that gpu is pushing 3,686,400 pixels... imagine it only pushing the 921,600 pixels. 1/4th of the UHD. Certainly a boost in gpu performance. Not that games need such a boost because android games aren't exactly pushing the limits...however battery has to improve a little. Thats such a huge drop. If Some of you could please experiment with this for battery improvements it would be awesome.
By the way that app I linked for some reason it wants you to put in stuff backwards. So dont check that mark until you input the values or it will apply as your trying to input the numbers. Also the nav bars might not align so use the fix nav bar option in the menu on the top right if need be. Also make sure you hit that stupid popup that shows up on the top right. the app will start and youll have to wait for that darn overlay to show so you can hit the button. I must warn you guys to not try this unless you know how to restore a nandroid... i played with it on my gnex and put the res of the original moto droid. I had to laugh at the sight but while playing I also messed up aspect ratio so then had to restore from nandroid. Just know that you can mess up stuff if you play :good:
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Ok next is that beefy CPU.
While this is an obvious battery saver that all phones can do the high clock has me wanting to see this now instead of waiting til I get one. Maybe it under clocks well! This is a Quad core cpu that's clocked at 2.7 GHz. Most apps don't need anything near this... And with that quad core you'll already be able to multitask pretty well.
I think this is going to go really good or really bad, as not all cpus really under clock or overclock the same. I have no clue how well the 805 under clocks. I'm sure some are going to look at this and give a rant about that so I'm just going to say that. The above is basically preaching to choir I guess. What i think is desired from this however is to get the most energy efficient clock out of the cpu as you can while still being as stable as you can. Not much more to say other then could some of you please post your stable under clocks. Hopefully with a good kernel we can get that to a better battery state. Personally I think 1000mhz is plenty enough on my dual core Gnex for everyday stuff such as email and browser. I wonder how stable that is on a quad core that's designed to run at 2.7. (I guess when I write it like that its bound to do bad)
Im curious what the under clock and the resolution change will do to the battery. Maybe we can get an extra hour or two. That would be amazing right? If the resolution thing doesn't work out ill be disappointed. :crying:
Post up results please or just speculate wildly or even come in here like a boss and tell me how it is which I suspect a dev might do.

You cannot change the hardware screen resolution.
I doubt what you did above have much impact on battery life.
You see, you need to come with evidence, like test result to compare. Test both configurations, measure the battery life in the same way. Then we can see.

gogol said:
You cannot change the hardware screen resolution.
I doubt what you did above have much impact on battery life.
You see, you need to come with evidence, like test result to compare. Test both configurations, measure the battery life in the same way. Then we can see.
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I believe he was hoping people would test it and report back as he has not received his yet. That being said, it seems to me if you were to do all those things to it you are pretty much just turning it into a big gnexus. Kind of a waste of all the high end hardware IMO.

Xileforce said:
I believe he was hoping people would test it and report back as he has not received his yet. That being said, it seems to me if you were to do all those things to it you are pretty much just turning it into a big gnexus. Kind of a waste of all the high end hardware IMO.
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well, he's correct in saying you can't change the hardware resolution i.e. you can't force the screen to be 1080p/720p. however, there's a way to save battery via pixel manipulation using the AMOLED screen. if you were to populate every other pixel on the screen with a black pixel, you'd be saving battery since on our screens, black pixel = screen off. tested this using Pixel Battery Saver and i got an extra hour of life from my N6. basically what the app does is provide a mesh overlay on your screen, blacking out pixels in a grid. obviously, if you were to put it in "high" setting, the screen quality would degrade but it's a handy tool to have when you need to extend your battery for a longer daytrip or if you're making an impromptu stay at a hotel
as for kernel controls go, yes underclocking and undervolting will squeeze out more life out of your battery for sure. however, with uv/ov and uc/oc there's also the added possibility of instability issues so it's more of a phone-to-phone basis since not all are built the same and have different pvs values.
and just so OP gets a ballpark feel, right now i'm running Minimus ROM and the latest beta of Imoseyon's leanKernel w/ stock clock and voltage. hit 6 hours 30 mins at 10% earlier today doing usual tasks (reddit, Chrome, Youtube, Kingdom Rush, etc).

Not sure I'm so desperate to bother with screen density changes. But I currently underclock my Oneplus to 1.297Ghz and undervolt -100mv. I don't play games or use processor intensive apps so underclocking works for me. While I'm not expecting to get 13 hours of screen time like I've gotten on my Oneplus, I'll be perfectly content with 6+.
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Im curious why you guys say this. You just say you cant without elaborating. You also specify hardware resolution. I dont really get what you guys are saying. In my mind it cant be to different then say, a pc. In a pc you can downgrade graphics to a lower resolution. While i cant say i know the going in and outs of this im pretty sure it heavily affects performance. I can run my game at a lower res to get higher fps for example. the gpu isnt working as hard to output it in the higher res.
Now im not stating that lowering the resolution will make the screen on the phone a 720p screen. Clearly it still is going to be displaying 4k. Like it is build to do, however i think the gpu isnt going to be working to bring that to the screen ...just like on pc. So if i have 720p content, the screen will make that image fill the screen. The gpu isnt giving that screen 4k content so it will stretch that lower quality content. Unless i am misunderstanding you, your saying that you can possibly lower that resolution. I have explained how in first post, and you read it so maybe you see a flaw in this program. however you didn't exactly say why. Im willing to admit that it wont work without anyone trying it if someone had an explanation...

Why not flash a kernel and under clock the CPU. I run mine at 1.3GHz max and my battery life is ~6-7 hours of SOT. If I run it at 2.9GHz OC then I still get 4-5 hours of SOT. What's wrong with a 2k display? My phone has zero stutters when I under clock it (233MHz-1.3GHz).

Pilz said:
Why not flash a kernel and under clock the CPU. I run mine at 1.3GHz max and my battery life is ~6-7 hours of SOT. If I run it at 2.9GHz OC then I still get 4-5 hours of SOT. What's wrong with a 2k display? My phone has zero stutters when I under clock it (233MHz-1.3GHz).
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what? i get 6.5-8 hours sot at 2880/300. heres my battery stats from last night at 50%..
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what? i get 6.5-8 hours sot at 2880/300. heres my battery stats from last night at 50%..
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That's really good, what ROM are you running? Mine has been really weird lately probably because I keep changing ROMs to see what I like.

Pilz said:
That's really good, what ROM are you running? Mine has been really weird lately probably because I keep changing ROMs to see what I like.
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rastapop with lean kernel. and i made a mistake, my low cpu speed is 223mhz, not 300. and im not doing anything special to save battery, its just my normal setup, using ondemand/deadline.

simms22 said:
rastapop with lean kernel. and i made a mistake, my low cpu speed is 223mhz, not 300. and im not doing anything special to save battery, its just my normal setup, using ondemand/deadline.
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I'll give it a try tonight once I'm done with my homework and classes.